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indo-dreaming wrote:Yep thats why her husband is Asian.
This is not the "gotcha" moment that you think it is.
Hey zen, how are you eyes today? Rolling like a poker machine on continual 5 game play I’d wager!
Yep.
Time for another slice of humble pie.
blindboy wrote:"...so called refugees..."
What else would you call people seriously risking their lives in small boats with no certianty about their future? And the people you admire so much for interfering in the rescue process have no right to make the judgement about a person's refugee status. They are simply thugs trying to subvert the existing process for their own reasons.....which are not too hard to imagine.
Remember SIEV X?
Okay you are technically correct they are all refugees some genuine some economic refugees.
More entertainment from trump
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-19/trump-january-6-congress-bannon-c...
Hiccups wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Yep thats why her husband is Asian.
This is not the "gotcha" moment that you think it is.
White supremacist believe they are superior to others, why on earth would she be attracted to someone and love soneone they see as inferior and have children of mixed race when they are supposedly trying to keep the white race pure?
If it was a white guy with a coloured female partner maybe you could jump to some crazy conclusion about some power play, but unfortunetly there sexes are the wrong way around.
Anyway you know nothing about her, just second hand information based on BS, thats the problem with you people, you judge people based on what others have said of them, instead of actually judging them based on what they say themselves and who they really are, which is very different.
zenagain wrote:Yep.
Time for another slice of humble pie.
You know Zen the Christians have this short prayer: lord give me my penance on this earth. Clearly there are some sinners amongst us!
indo-dreaming wrote:Anyway you know nothing about her, just second hand information based on BS, thats the problem with you people, you judge people based on what others have said of them, instead of actually judging them based on what they say themselves and who they really are, which is very different.
I do judge her on what she's said herself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hiccups wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Anyway you know nothing about her, just second hand information based on BS, thats the problem with you people, you judge people based on what others have said of them, instead of actually judging them based on what they say themselves and who they really are, which is very different.
I do judge her on what she's said herself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No you judge her based on what others have said she has said, things that are often not true at all, or taken out of context.
These things are said in an atempt to silence or cancel her from others with opposing views, and it sonetimes works because often the perception of someone or what they have said is seen as more important than what they have really said or who they really are.
Seemed like we might be getting somewhere towards the end of page 99, but sadly no.
garyg1412 wrote:Hey gsco I seem to have this problem at home with regards to renovations and the practicality thereof. After all she is an administrator and I am a builder, but I think she watches The Block way too much for my sanity. Any advice would be handy :) :)
If only I knew the solution to that one…
Economic refugees? Of course, who wouldn't set off on a dangerous voyage, on which thousands of others have died, with nothing.more than the clothes on their back and whatever they can carry for a chance to update the family car more regularly.
indo-dreaming wrote:Hiccups wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Anyway you know nothing about her, just second hand information based on BS, thats the problem with you people, you judge people based on what others have said of them, instead of actually judging them based on what they say themselves and who they really are, which is very different.
I do judge her on what she's said herself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No you judge her based on what others have said she has said, things that are often not true at all, or taken out of context.
These things are said in an atempt to silence or cancel her from others with opposing views, and it sonetimes works because often the perception of someone or what they have said is seen as more important than what they have really said or who they really are.
I do judge her on what she's said herself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"No you judge her based on what others have said she has said, things that are often not true at all, or taken out of context."
Haaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
What an absolute joke you've become ID.
Southern broadcasted her own deeply racist material on YouTube and it was there for everyone to judge. Well it was until on that platform until she started deleting it when applying for Australian citizenship. Even she knew her stuff was so fucking offensive it needed to be removed.
Fuck me, thinking Southern is a moderate is pretty pathetic Indo Dreaming.
blindboy wrote:Economic refugees? Of course, who wouldn't set off on a dangerous voyage, on which thousands of others have died, with nothing.more than the clothes on their back and whatever they can carry for a chance to update the family car more regularly.
Are you really that naive and detached from the real world?
Do you actually understand why they have such strict vetting process on refugees?
Do you understand why that refugee advocate in the video is coaxing people on what to say and how to act?
You and I are lucky to be born i a developed country something others dream of.
"Add Avi (the z grade Andy Ngo), and whatever other gronks that float your boat."
Have you seen the footage of Avi with the shit eating grin saying that "Today I've had a huge win"?. It was on the day he lost his defamation case. Who is stupid enough to believe that wife bashing bullshit artist?
Facto you are just a complete gongshow, its relly best to just avoid communicating with you as you are purely just an agitator/troll, its pretty clear what your motivates are on this forum.
The only truth is Lauren was on that boat making a documentary, im surprised you didnt turn the lighting of the hand flare to prevent their boat getting hit by the bigger rescue boat into a story of shooting at the boat with guns like others have, the so called rescue boat was operating illegally and got shut down not long after.
As for the great replacement theory BS, you clearly didnt watch the video that mentioned it, she never said she supported the idea.
Yes we are lucky and I understand that those claiming refugee status need to checked for terrorist connections. What I don't understand is how that justifies organisations with no legal right to be involved disrupting the rescue of extremely vulnerable people in circumstances that have already claimed thousands of lives. Nor do I understand why you promote the activities of such a band of heartless thugs, though your previously noted advocacy of violence as a solution to trivial problems throws some light on that.
No BB they get checked to ensure they are genuine too because the reality is a large number are not, many are rejected.
As mentioned above Lauren was on the boat making her documentary "Borderless" that looked at all aspects of the issue, she spent months on end in the region, spending much time with the refugees some genuine some not, she even slept in bushes with them avoiding authorities etc
She even admits that her view on the subject actually changed a little over the making of the film, sympathising with the people be it genuine refugee or non genuine, although she shows all aspects of the issue, her main focussed was on the people smugglers who are well organised criminals who make all kinds of promises to the people they sell the packages too selling Europe as some utopia, one that in many cases doesn't live up to expectations.
"The only truth is Lauren was on that boat making a documentary"
Oh please.
This Lauren-worshiping spin is more than a little pathetic Indo Dreaming.
According to you, what was Southern doing when she got the local neo-nazis to run security at her speaking tour? Providing employment?
Clearly the question to ask here is did Info meet Lauren at Dandy Markets?
Ha ha first time ive heard that one, im sure it must be true cause you read it on the internet.
This all goes back to the free speech thread, it's very easy to say pretty much anything about someone these days online, and many people like you will blindly believe it as fact especially when its what they would like to hear, the problem is unless the victim of the allegations has big money, it very hard to actually bring some accountability to those that start or spread lies.
It's a very real problem.
Viclocal - Let me spend a minute trying to come up with a few groups you think are racist scum .
Most Japanese and Koreans . The two largest , purist races on the planet .
Trump supporters . Many muslims that believe all other religions are full of infidels ( I think that is racist ) .
Many children that are notorious of bulling anyone different .
Many Blacks and Aboriginals . A close friend ( teacher ) and his wife ( midwife ) went to an Aboriginal community to help out for 5 years . Wanted to leave after 2 .
Many people who vote right .
Nearly a billion people .
As I said many that are good people .
Have had different lives that have shaped these views .
Can you lighten up a bit ?
Some nice ducking and weaving there Indo.
There's nothing to buy there is the truth and then there is lies, im sure people here will go on believing what they want and highly doubt they will change their mind because it's very unlikely you are actually going to invest time in listening to Lauren and her views.
Like i said the real problem is, people can say what they want about someone or spin a story how they want, unless the person being attacked has good money to take legal action they are screwed, especially if they need to take on a media organisation where much more money is needed..
And even if they did have the money to take them on and win and get a story taken down or altered, half the time it's too late the damage is done, its old news.
Indo Dreaming said "Ha ha first time ive heard that one (Southern hiring nazis for security), im sure it must be true cause you read it on the internet."
It's true because she posed with the neo-nazis and even flashed a white power sign for one fo the photos.
You can look at it here.
So anyways, the private security detail used by Stefan Molyneux & Lauren Southern @ last night's stoopid @ La Mirage in Somerton?
— Andy Fleming (@slackbastard) July 21, 2018
Members of neo-#nazi grouplet 'The Lads Society'.#antifa #auspol #Melbourne #FCKNZS pic.twitter.com/FyjdE2LFAv
and here https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/secret-location-of-aussie-...
I think I've destroyed Indo "Dandy Markets" Dreaming's credibility here. Actually he destroyed his own credibility with his ludicrous opinions on Southern.
The more important question is, how the fuck did she get a visa and entry into Australia during the pandemic, especially when Australians were trying to get back home? Dutton needs to explain that shithouse state of affairs.
Oh and BTW Hutchy, thanks for telling me what I think. That was some truly pathetic straw-manning.
indo-dreaming wrote:Anyway you know nothing about her, just second hand information based on BS,
I guess she could just be signalling that she's ok, but methinks probably not.
Neo-nazis have co-opted the ok sign??
That sound you can hear is ten million scuba divers scratching their heads.
But not with their thumb and forefinger together, natch.
Ha ha the other day VL is trying to tell me live stream footage (with sound) isn't very reliable or accurate because you know the camera can be turned away if they are pissing on the shrine of remembrance or something and now suddenly photos# of people doing some hand single are evidence of people being a white supremesist even though they dont share those beliefs in any of their created content and all things in their personal life shows the opposite ideals, married with kids to an Asian man for instance.
# the equivalent of one frame without sound from from hundreds of thousands of frames of footage with sound.
You do know? people on the right, take the piss out of this hand signal because it's basically seen as a far left wing conspiracy theory, cause suddenly anyone who does the signal like a football player in a group photo is a white surpremist secretly (well not so secretly) sending a message to other white supremest.
You can be certain seeing it's a photo of a very young Lauren she is trolling, and you guys got hooked, hook line and sinker, its what she did when she was younger she gained her notoriety through trolling/agitating and stirring shit up, and it got her the audience she was after, im sure now she is a few years older (27 i think) with kids and family and doing more serious work like docco's etc, she does regret some of these trolls though. (but dont we all regret some of the things we did in our late teens early 20's)
BTW VL your article says a guy from the group is involved in some other white supremest group that truely does sound dodgy, but the only evidence of this group talked about that did the security is some claims from a facebook community group, the group itself claims to be about other things.
I mean FFS our own state government have been linked to some dodgy private security group who fucked quarantine resulting in hundreds of deaths and an official investigation couldn't come up with who made the decision.
Even if we jumped to some huge conclusion that this group is dodgy, if our own state government cant do a decent vetting process, then what hope do organisers of a private event have, and obviously the organising of security would not by Lauren especially seeing it was a double header tour, she obviously doesn't suddenly become guilty by association.
If the guy in the group was linked to Antifa does that suddenly make her a crazy Antifa loon?
No.
I mix with people that have very different believes to me some muslim, some christian, some anti vaxers, some new age, some id call far left, it is not a reflection on my own beliefs or ideologies.
When i worked in Indo, i even had a girl staff member who's father was Muslim and her mother Christian, technically not even legal to marry like this in Indo, but they were and married for 20+ years.
FFS ID, just top it.
You just keep digging deeper and deeper.
Now you are claiming the Lads Society, a white supremacist group that trains for combat and goes off on nazi weekend getaways (yelling out hail hitlers and displaying swastikas) isn't that bad because they "claim to be about other things".
If it looks like a nazi group, and sounds like a nazi group, it's a fucking nazi group no matter what they say they are.
Give it up champ. you're excusing some truly fucked up people. Southern is a White Supremacist, her security team are neo-nazi thugs, and you're starting to sound truly unhinged.
Did you read the article?
It does not say that about this lads society group it says, one guy is a member of another group that is a nazi group, although that info is based on a blog post from a fucken Antifa type group...seriously dude great source.
The other evidence is from some community group.
Again even if we make some assumption that the security has links to some crazy white supremacy group or this lad group is what you say it is, again you are assuming they are her beliefs because they did security for an event she was part off, its called guilt by association.
BTW. I googled it to see if there was other articles and all that came up was crazy Antifa type websites (that im surprise are not banned, and i sure arent going to click on), you say im going down rabbit holes, im betting you are getting your news from these types of websites, complete nut cases that are just the other side of the coin of the exact people we are talking about.
Its no wonder you think everyone is racist and far right this and that if you go on these sites, even people here with very left leaning views cant take you seriously around this type of stuff, because you lack the ability to have a mature discussion about impacts of high immigration rates in Australia, and think anyone who has concerns is racist.
I had no idea who southern was so I googled it last night. She is a real piece garbage. I'm not surprised that LNP are after her services
"its called guilt by association"
Haaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Hey ID, for your theory that Southern is being accused of guilt due to her association with security "guards" at her gig, that only works if she had no idea who they were.
You're actually assuming that of all the hundreds, maybe thousands of security companies in Melbourne, Southern just happened to ignore them all, and get a random bunch of blokes (without security licences) to do the job, and they just happened to be neo nazis. Bit of a coincidence there champ.
Indo Dreaming must be getting close to saying something like, "That heavily tattooed bloke with the shaved head waving the swastika flag around is probably a Hindu not a Nazi. It'a the same symbol you know"
go hard deplatformers...
how about you challenge some of her coverage on the ground, amongst the issues... if she is so... err... wrong...
you guys just don't like what she talks about, so you attack the person... murdoch... avi... southern... same old shit... again...
and again...
such a tired old MO you guys have been trained in... so bloody predictable... so incredibly tedious... it's just beyond boring...
(not to mention totally ineffective in the internet age...)
here's the thing, if your sources, ...and err... 'journalists'... gave a more realistic picture of what is actually happening regardiing these issues, then these other 'journalists' wouldn't gain such influence...
just sayin...
"Is anyone here still buying what they're selling?"
right back at you ...mr. guilty by ommision...
carry on...
'winning'
I don't have to like someone to appreciste their work... I don't have to agree with them either...
ffs, if that was the case I would never ever read the guardian, or listen to half of the clones on the abc...
that's just how it is
how one stays informed
know your 'enemies' and all that...
OMG i only just clicked and overlooked the fact that the so called evidence from VL of this group providing security to Lauren is a twitter tweat from some activist who is described as a Anarchist communist (complete nutter), a google search comes up with zero about this or any other group providing security.
If i had picked up on that, i wouldn't have even wasted my time on it.
Going on a Lauren podcast binge the last few days while working revising her views, when asked about some photo in an interview posted by the media, she said she literally gets thousands of photos with people who go to these events and obviously has zero way of knowing who they all are. (unlike Hillary Clinton that even has photos of a platonic kiss from a former KKK member, pic confirmed real in Snopes, or all those people involved with that dodgy pedophile guy thats now dead)
BTW. Revisiting her views and what she is about, i came up with zero of anything even close to being views of a white supremest, actually a little the opposite, in two podcast interviews she mentions how she enjoys hanging out with people in developing countries because their life's and views are simpler, if they have problems it's real problems and not worrying about something like pronouns used or something crazy, can totally relate with that view.
Illiterate, incomprehensible and inaccurate.
"BTW. Revisiting her views and what she is about, i came up with zero of anything even close to being views of a white supremest, actually a little the opposite,"
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
For someone who isn't a white supremacist (according to you), Southern has a very long history of hanging out with, going on tour with, and hiring white supremacists. And while doing this she has been regurgitating white supremacist ideas and talking point.
If it looks like a white supremacist , talks like a white supremacist, and hangs out with white supremacist, she a fucking white supremacist.
But you keep telling us she's a moderate champ if that makes you feel better.
Seen her book cover champ?
https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/books/lauren-southern/barbarians/9781...
If that doesn't scream I'm not a racist but... nothing does.
Not to speculate. And hypothetically of course.
Say, on the set of a movie the director and the cinematographer both get shot by a malfunctioning prop gun, and the very talented emerging cinematographer tragically dies as a result, one might conclude that someone was pointing and pulling the trigger of said prop gun at people outside of any scene it was scheduled to be used in. Which might be flouting regulations given similar incidents have happened in the past. And if the person who pulled the trigger was an A list Hollywood star and one of the movie’s producers?
I wonder how that would play out?
I'll speculate, it happened during a scene to camera, or he was facing the camera, that's how the cinematographer and director got hit, standing behind the camera. There were fragments from a previous blank in the barrel that were discharged . Baldwin not responsible but the prop master is.
Yeah that would be interesting to see how it played out Roker.
I imagine a response from a DSA-LA Hollywood Labour union spokesperson might go a little something like .... "So many safety protocols must have been ignored to get to this point. The price of a fucking Alec Baldwin movie shouldn't be a workers life".
tubeshooter wrote:Yeah that would be interesting to see how it played out Roker.
I imagine a response from a DSA-LA Hollywood Labour union spokesperson might go a little something like .... "So many safety protocols must have been ignored to get to this point. The price of a fucking Alec Baldwin movie shouldn't be a workers life".
Yup. Heard a stunt coordinator speaking on the radio earlier saying that it sounds like corners were being cut. Something along the lines of no professional armourer would allow that sort of thing to happen. Sad day for all involved.
I think adam12 is most likely talking sense. Especially if the prop was a shotgun. But from as well listening to that armourer speak, it certainly sounds like safety measures must have been lax.
Another thing to consider is that ‘under the line’ film and TV production workers have been taking industrial action over pay and conditions, mainly ridiculously long hours and insufficient breaks in between. It seems as streaming services, like Amazon and Apple, have been buying the traditional studios they’ve brought their work practices with them,
No idea if that’s applicable here.
Here's a list of open carry States in the US, couple this with lax requirements for the purchase and licensing of weapons...
Imagine if this were possible in Australia. I'm sure we can think of at least one or two individuals who should be nowhere near a gun.
https://www.concealedcarry.com/open-carry-laws-by-state/?__cf_chl_manage...
I made a half joking prediction that Trump after he lost the election would move into media and come back to haunt us all . Looks like it’s a bit bigger than just a new Twitter.
Supafreak, Trump just wants a platform to broadcast his "toys out the cot routine" because he can't accept he lost the election.
Murdoch must be livid. He built trump up from joke candidate to president, and now the lunatic is going to destroy the Fox audience. Expect some blowback.
Get the popcorn, I'm going to enjoy watching these two geriatric scumbags brawl it out until they die.
From Zerohedge
Chicago's main police union is continuing to tell officers to hold the line as police HQ continues summoning officers to disclose their Covid vaccination status, and placing those who don't comply on "no-pay status" while sending them home.
Just ahead of a crucial city council meeting set for Monday, Fraternal Order of Police First Vice President Michael Mette likened the continued standoff to "The Hunger Games". Mette referenced the popular dystopian novel series and movies in a social media video posted prior to the weekend, saying "Welcome to day three of 'The Hunger Games,' where we find out who the city is going to offer up as tribute."
Trump is joining the ranks of other tech billionaires .
Former President Donald Trump's new media enterprise - Trump Media & Technology Group - is already worth an implied $8.2 billion following last week's buying frenzy following the announcement of it's special purpose acquisition company (SPAC), Digital World Acquisition Corp. (ticker: DWAC).
Shares in DWAC had been hovering around $9 before Wednesday's announcement, before rising to $52 on Thursday and closing at $45.50. An incredible half a billion shares changed hands during regular market hours. Momentum continued on Friday despite five halts, as the stock opened at $118, hit a high of $175 despite momentum-breaking halts, only to close at $94.20 at the end of the day (dropping to nearly $80 after hours).
And according to Bloomberg, citing SEC filings, it appears that Trump will own more than 50% of the combined company. Assuming that the company's initial enterprise value was $875 million (based on figures from press releases) was calculated at $10 per share offering price and the $293 million Digital World has in trust, owners of the SPAC will receive around 42% of the combined company, leaving 58% for Trump - a stake worth nearly $4.8 billion based on Friday's close. For reference, Twitter is worth nearly $50 billion.
"At its current value, that would make him the richest he’s ever been, up from his estimated net worth now of $2.5 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index," according to the report.
The on-paper gains, should they hold, more than make up for the $500 million hit Trump took to his net worth since becoming President according to the report.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank