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Supafreak wrote:basesix wrote:https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/goodgovernment/actions/campaign-cut...
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/white-house-press-release-whit...
https://www.businessofgovernment.org/blog/obama-launches-new-campaign-cu...Thanks for those links B6 , clears up the AI that I was sceptical about. It’s also interesting that Clinton in his day took maybe not a chainsaw to work , but was all for making government more efficient . Were there protests about these sackings back then ? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-trump-federal-workers/
Clinton was actually the last president that delivered a budget surplus. Everyone after him, for the last 25 years, has kept borrowing to close the gap and keep the country running. He also turbocharged globalisation which obviously created some winners and some losers etc.
Trump borrowed 8.4 Trillion during his last term.
Biden borrowed 4.3 Trillion during his term.
Supafreak wrote:basesix wrote:https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/goodgovernment/actions/campaign-cut...
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/white-house-press-release-whit...
https://www.businessofgovernment.org/blog/obama-launches-new-campaign-cu...Thanks for those links B6 , clears up the AI that I was sceptical about. It’s also interesting that Clinton in his day took maybe not a chainsaw to work , but was all for making government more efficient . Were there protests about these sackings back then ? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-trump-federal-workers/
Yeah, there's the dead-ahead numbers thing: how many did Clinton lay off vs how many Trump's laying off.
But there's another, more elemental, reason for the outrage. That being the manner in which Trump is doing it. Never mind the battle of hearts and minds, or helping employees transition into other jobs, even just severance pay for a soft landing, Trump and Musk are gloating, carrying on as if every suddenly redundant fed worker is a criminal.
Of course people are going to be upset by that.
The thing is, those theatrics are completely unnecessary; they could achieve the same goal without them. Their base is already on board, irrespective of the optics, but it furthers division in a way no other American president ever has.
Yes that is spot on. They are treating people worse than animals, this is completely unacceptable. People have every right to be pissed off and protest.
Calling the sacked workers parasites doesn’t help.
And Musk dramatically being shocked and confused at the hate Tesla is getting is next level clueless.
Trump, Bernie, AOC and MAGA do agree on some things. We need this in Australia too.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-thing-trump-aoc-and-bernie-sanders-ag...
I agree that Trump & Musk are pricks in how they are treating people . I also noted in that article from snopes that Clinton had bipartisan support in his reduction of government personnel . I have never understood why the US was always hell bent on space exploration and the billions spent in this area . I just don’t understand the benefits against the costs, while other areas of society get neglected . Was it simply a pissing contest with the Russians ? Now Musk being all in on colonising Mars to me is another huge waste of money and resources not to mention environmentally damaging in the process . He is a smart guy in some areas and an absolute lunatic in others . How much he could actually achieve if his focus was elsewhere . This new world of AI , robots and space travel while ignoring basic human needs and the environment, is pretty fucked up in my opinion .
^ spot on supa
The american ego must not be defeated at any cost.
Take 2…
?si=dXBwWUhbjVmUO9cZ Roadkill wrote:And Musk dramatically being shocked and confused at the hate Tesla is getting is next level clueless.
This x 500 billion (or whatever his net worth is)
The New Yorker wrote an article last year that included this description: "...the billionaire who wields more power than almost any other person on the planet but seems estranged from humanity itself."
Like, every other human can understand why people would bristle at his latest actions, even people on his side can understand it, but Musk himself can't.
Perhaps the biggest news is yet to drop. That his advanced intelligence, uncanny lack of human empathy, and ongoing desire to reach Mars is just the workings of a little lost alien.
The division isn’t a by-product of the actions of this administration. It’s the objective.
That’s becoming increasingly clear. And the actions will be increasingly brazen until they get a public reaction.
They want a response.
They are craving a BLM 2.0. Or a facsimile.
And then watch what happens.
Supafreak wrote:Now Musk being all in on colonising Mars to me is another huge waste of money and resources not to mention environmentally damaging in the process . He is a smart guy in some areas and an absolute lunatic in others . How much he could actually achieve if his focus was elsewhere . This new world of AI , robots and space travel while ignoring basic human needs and the environment, is pretty fucked up in my opinion .
Wanting to colonise Mars while ignoring basic human needs and the environment reeks of eugenics, cos you know there ain't gonna be no poor people or other "undesirables" hitching a ride on one of Elon's exploding tin cans.
etarip wrote:The division isn’t a by-product of the actions of this administration. It’s the objective.
That’s becoming increasingly clear. And the actions will be increasingly brazen until they get a public reaction.They want a response.
They are craving a BLM 2.0. Or a facsimile.
And then watch what happens.
Yup. The illegal arrest and detainment of Mahmoud Khalil should be enough to give people this correct perspective. Shit gonna get real violent. CYBERTRUCK TANKS AND ALL THE ARMS YOU CAN BEAR AT THE READY, LOYAL MAGA PAWNS!
I was not aware Trump had gone into the music business with his own line of guitars.
Flashy looking units and a hefty price for those bearing the Don's signature.
Hang on a minute: Make America Great Again, by manufacturing in China??????
And some questionable marketing as well.
It's worth noting Gibson have issued a "Cease and Desist "notice.
What about the tariffs Don????
Tarrific $tuff
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank