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seeds wrote:US beef producers may about to be wedgied. Good for our producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-14/3-billion-united-states-meat-trad...
That’s a big one. Will put pressure on Trump.
I hope they do it.
Roadkill wrote:seeds wrote:US beef producers may about to be wedgied. Good for our producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-14/3-billion-united-states-meat-trad...That’s a big one. Will put pressure on Trump.
I hope they do it.
$3b? That’s peanuts. Knowing Trump he will just send this back in subsidies.
indo-dreaming wrote:flollo wrote:Ray Dalio absolutely nails it on the US debt. Deficit is out of control. The only thing I would add is that other countries also sell their debt. Who will buy all this debt? It just goes up and up. We’ll be in major credit crisis at some point. The only question is when?
https://fortune.com/2025/03/12/national-debt-burden-ray-dalio-foreign-go...
Interesting read crazy stuff.
I get not all debt is bad its part of running a country and the debt to GDP ratio is the important thing (thats getting very high for USA)
But i still find it mind boggling how much USA pays in interest per day and double what it was six or so years ago.
3 Billion USD per day or over 1 trillion USD a year.
Imagine what that money could be spent on.
Which is more than the USA military budget per year
Obviously DODGE isn't going to make much difference, but the first step is to reduce spending to prevent more pain and then to try to start paying the debt off, somehow.
Im convinced this whole tarrif thing has something to do with this, Trump and Elon want legacy and really think they can turn things around.
OR is this MMT modern monetary theory still a thing?
Interest is one of the biggest expense lines in the US budget. It’s as big as health or defence.
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
flollo wrote:Roadkill wrote:seeds wrote:US beef producers may about to be wedgied. Good for our producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-14/3-billion-united-states-meat-trad...That’s a big one. Will put pressure on Trump.
I hope they do it.$3b? That’s peanuts. Knowing Trump he will just send this back in subsidies.
$3 B isn’t peanuts to the beef producers in the USA and Trump won’t really care when they all go broke, can you see a pattern here?
It’s not normal economics 101 .
Confusion wrote:flollo wrote:Roadkill wrote:seeds wrote:US beef producers may about to be wedgied. Good for our producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-14/3-billion-united-states-meat-trad...That’s a big one. Will put pressure on Trump.
I hope they do it.$3b? That’s peanuts. Knowing Trump he will just send this back in subsidies.
$3 B isn’t peanuts to the beef producers in the USA and Trump won’t really care when they all go broke, can you see a pattern here?
It’s not normal economics 101 .
But the last time he introduced tariffs most of it went back to farmers as subsidies
flollo wrote:Confusion wrote:flollo wrote:Roadkill wrote:seeds wrote:US beef producers may about to be wedgied. Good for our producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-14/3-billion-united-states-meat-trad...That’s a big one. Will put pressure on Trump.
I hope they do it.$3b? That’s peanuts. Knowing Trump he will just send this back in subsidies.
$3 B isn’t peanuts to the beef producers in the USA and Trump won’t really care when they all go broke, can you see a pattern here?
It’s not normal economics 101 .But the last time he introduced tariffs most of it went back to farmers as subsidies
Trumps first term was totally different to this term , he isn’t surrounded by relatively normal Republicans this term ., but by right wing loonies hell bent on authoritarianism,
He didn’t make enemies of Europe Canada,Mexico Australia, ? And didn’t align himself with Russia and against Ukraine .
Trump also didn’t have a blatant billionaire oligarchy lead by Musk and DOGE etc
Who he owes trillion dollar tax cuts to.
And he is a relative lame duck now.
Flollo is like Indo in failing to see the bigger picture.
Pfft, $3b is peanuts.
Well, they could just start their own lobster processing plant..see? Problem fixed!
3b is not peanuts to those in the industry. China rejecting beef products can easily be followed by Soy beans, corn, cereal, cotton etc etc.
anything like this product rejection affects farmers and farmers are seen as true patriots…fucking them around is not good for Trump. It makes up about 10% of US employment and contributes 1.5T to the US GDP. It’s what can follow after beef that is important.
Trump really has no plan…loving the pushback and Republican incredulous expressions when retaliation occurs. The US, under Trump has over estimated their importance.
Trump ain’t that smart.
Roadkill wrote:Trump really has no plan…loving the pushback and Republican incredulous expressions when retaliation occurs. The US, under Trump has over estimated their importance.
Trump ain’t that smart.
Trump’s first mistake was thinking that the rest of the world watched Fox News like half of Americas dumbo’s!
Confusion wrote:flollo wrote:Confusion wrote:flollo wrote:Roadkill wrote:seeds wrote:US beef producers may about to be wedgied. Good for our producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-14/3-billion-united-states-meat-trad...That’s a big one. Will put pressure on Trump.
I hope they do it.$3b? That’s peanuts. Knowing Trump he will just send this back in subsidies.
$3 B isn’t peanuts to the beef producers in the USA and Trump won’t really care when they all go broke, can you see a pattern here?
It’s not normal economics 101 .But the last time he introduced tariffs most of it went back to farmers as subsidies
Trumps first term was totally different to this term , he isn’t surrounded by relatively normal Republicans this term ., but by right wing loonies hell bent on authoritarianism,
He didn’t make enemies of Europe Canada,Mexico Australia, ? And didn’t align himself with Russia and against Ukraine .
Trump also didn’t have a blatant billionaire oligarchy lead by Musk and DOGE etc
Who he owes trillion dollar tax cuts to.
And he is a relative lame duck now.
What’s this got to do with the subsidies? Do you think he will or will not subsidise farmers for the lost revenue? Same as last time?
flollo wrote:Confusion wrote:flollo wrote:Confusion wrote:flollo wrote:Roadkill wrote:seeds wrote:US beef producers may about to be wedgied. Good for our producers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-14/3-billion-united-states-meat-trad...That’s a big one. Will put pressure on Trump.
I hope they do it.$3b? That’s peanuts. Knowing Trump he will just send this back in subsidies.
$3 B isn’t peanuts to the beef producers in the USA and Trump won’t really care when they all go broke, can you see a pattern here?
It’s not normal economics 101 .But the last time he introduced tariffs most of it went back to farmers as subsidies
Trumps first term was totally different to this term , he isn’t surrounded by relatively normal Republicans this term ., but by right wing loonies hell bent on authoritarianism,
He didn’t make enemies of Europe Canada,Mexico Australia, ? And didn’t align himself with Russia and against Ukraine .
Trump also didn’t have a blatant billionaire oligarchy lead by Musk and DOGE etc
Who he owes trillion dollar tax cuts to.
And he is a relative lame duck now.What’s this got to do with the subsidies? Do you think he will or will not subsidise farmers for the lost revenue? Same as last time?
No because he just got rid of 2 to 300000 federal employees, al Trump and Musk care about is”saving money “
His not interested in bailing anyone out,
Trumps not a normal President doing normal economics. this term !
He’s just cut subsidies to thousands of farmers
granted by Biden for environmental management of their farms, leaving some of them out of pocket $ 100 of thousands for work already done
At least Meidastouch tells you about these things in perspective !
Project 2025…no $ for subsidies. Farmers have to deal with the consequences alone.
So far up his infected boil encrusted arse he aren’t seeing any daylight ….
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/14/donald-trump-crash...
GuySmiley wrote:So far up his infected boil encrusted arse he aren’t seeing any daylight ….
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/14/donald-trump-crash...
That’s a good read.
I’m always surprised when seemingly intelligent people can’t see the fuck up that Trump and the current crop of cowardly Republicans are.
I can understand how stupid people are suckered in.
That’s why the Republican congressmen, were so shocked when they left their
disinformation bubbles and went and did hometown ,town hall meeting's and were roundly booed by Red states.
^^ yes
Midterms will be very interesting !!
https://thepostmillennial.com/trump-admin-targets-45-universities-over-a...
"On Friday, the Department of Education announced that its Office for Civil Rights has opened Title VI investigations into 45 universities for allegedly engaging in race-exclusionary practices on campus.
Department of Education Secretary Linda McMahon said in a statement, "The Department is working to reorient civil rights enforcement to ensure all students are protected from illegal discrimination. The agency has already launched Title VI investigations into institutions where widespread antisemitic harassment has been reported and Title IX investigations into entities which allegedly continue to allow sex discrimination; today’s announcement expands our efforts to ensure universities are not discriminating against their students based on race and race stereotypes."
"Students must be assessed according to merit and accomplishment, not prejudged by the color of their skin. We will not yield on this commitment," she added."
flollo wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:flollo wrote:Ray Dalio absolutely nails it on the US debt. Deficit is out of control. The only thing I would add is that other countries also sell their debt. Who will buy all this debt? It just goes up and up. We’ll be in major credit crisis at some point. The only question is when?
https://fortune.com/2025/03/12/national-debt-burden-ray-dalio-foreign-go...
Interesting read crazy stuff.
I get not all debt is bad its part of running a country and the debt to GDP ratio is the important thing (thats getting very high for USA)
But i still find it mind boggling how much USA pays in interest per day and double what it was six or so years ago.
3 Billion USD per day or over 1 trillion USD a year.
Imagine what that money could be spent on.
Which is more than the USA military budget per year
Obviously DODGE isn't going to make much difference, but the first step is to reduce spending to prevent more pain and then to try to start paying the debt off, somehow.
Im convinced this whole tarrif thing has something to do with this, Trump and Elon want legacy and really think they can turn things around.
OR is this MMT modern monetary theory still a thing?
Interest is one of the biggest expense lines in the US budget. It’s as big as health or defence.
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
Thats what i mean the interest on the debt is more than the defence budget, but worse still is the rate at which the debt is rising.
This is not my area at all, but surely a country cant just keep going down that route, you need to both reduce the rate of the increasing debt and then pay off the debt at a quicker rate.
You cant do either without some pain though and nobody likes an increase in taxes or new taxes.
Tarrifs though sound better and are really just an import tax.
indo-dreaming wrote:This was an interesting listen
Fox News think’s Trump might be playing 4d chess, if he is he’s getting smashed,
But the Fox viewers wouldn’t know anyway.
First look at yer Official Balter Yalta 2.0 Trump Nobel FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Prize Tapestry Tote Bag
https://ukrainian-artists.pixels.com/featured/sunset-over-yalta-1861-iva...
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/putin-trump-yalta
https://pamfleti.net/english/bota/jalta-20-trump-putin-dhe-xi-do-ta-ndaj...
https://asia.nikkei.com/Editor-s-Picks/China-up-close/Analysis-Xi-seeks-...
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/donald-trump-diplomatic-talks...
3 Supreme Beings open the new Crimea Balter 2.0 Brewery to flush out 3 Sewers of Effluence
World is blended into 3 Exotic Peace Keeping Flavours
Balter Yalta 2.0 Wort Cooled Guava & Papaya
Balter Yalta 2.0 Yeast Pitched Lychee & Acai
Balter Yalta 2.0 Partially Mashed Persimmon & Tamarillo
3 lab tested hand crafted equally distasteful reciprocally tariffed sewers of effluence.
Altogether raise yer gooey shoey & Toast Trump winning his inaugural Nobel FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Prize!
check out the proposed fee structure on docking a Chinese-built ship/% of fleet built in China, in a US port:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-seeks-to-challenge-chinas-shipbui...
flollo wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:flollo wrote:Ray Dalio absolutely nails it on the US debt. Deficit is out of control. The only thing I would add is that other countries also sell their debt. Who will buy all this debt? It just goes up and up. We’ll be in major credit crisis at some point. The only question is when?
https://fortune.com/2025/03/12/national-debt-burden-ray-dalio-foreign-go...
Interesting read crazy stuff.
I get not all debt is bad its part of running a country and the debt to GDP ratio is the important thing (thats getting very high for USA)
But i still find it mind boggling how much USA pays in interest per day and double what it was six or so years ago.
3 Billion USD per day or over 1 trillion USD a year.
Imagine what that money could be spent on.
Which is more than the USA military budget per year
Obviously DODGE isn't going to make much difference, but the first step is to reduce spending to prevent more pain and then to try to start paying the debt off, somehow.
Im convinced this whole tarrif thing has something to do with this, Trump and Elon want legacy and really think they can turn things around.
OR is this MMT modern monetary theory still a thing?
Interest is one of the biggest expense lines in the US budget. It’s as big as health or defence.
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
Less trips to Disneyland . would definitely help with the reality of the debt and everything else.
velocityjohnno wrote:check out the proposed fee structure on docking a Chinese-built ship/% of fleet built in China, in a US port:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-seeks-to-challenge-chinas-shipbui...
100000K
Shit. Can they build these yank tanks with tariffed steel and alooolinum. I’d assume components from other “chiNA” type countries as well. Will shipping companies purchase these what will be expensive ships? Will China subsidise these entry fees? etc etc
How long until the worm turns would be my question.
You have many republicans right now scratching their heads,
How long until the party as a whole turns against Trump?
He's now calling CNN and MSNBC 'illegal'. As the sitting president, those words carry weight.
What comes next from those words? Will laws be enforced to silence them?
I stated a while ago that while this isn't Nazism, he's showed all along the traits of what took the Nazi party from a political movement to a dictatorship.
My question is. When do the ripples of discontent within his own party turn into an unstoppable tsunami and what will he do to quell it? I fear the answer to that question.
And Jeffrey, keep up the good work. You've been ridiculed, but pretty much everything you've identified as possibilities are all coming to fruition. Your only fault is even you couldn't predict half of the ridiculousness that's happened in the last 6 weeks.
My 2 cents worth,
The people are hitting the streets in force.
When was the last time people marched on the streets of New York in protest of their sitting president?
I can't remember it happening in my lifetime. The worm is turning.
A lot of what Trump does is only done because he can. He is a vindictive bully enabled by weak Republicans.
Sadly the alternative is the Dems. However the Dems are a far better option than the current chaos.
Gawd it must be exhausting living in the US currently.
velocityjohnno wrote:check out the proposed fee structure on docking a Chinese-built ship/% of fleet built in China, in a US port:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trump-seeks-to-challenge-chinas-shipbui...
Behind paywall.
Want is summary?
southernraw wrote:How long until the worm turns would be my question.
You have many republicans right now scratching their heads,
How long until the party as a whole turns against Trump?
He's now calling CNN and MSNBC 'illegal'. As the sitting president, those words carry weight.
What comes next from those words? Will laws be enforced to silence them?
I stated a while ago that while this isn't Nazism, he's showed all along the traits of what took the Nazi party from a political movement to a dictatorship.
My question is. When do the ripples of discontent within his own party turn into an unstoppable tsunami and what will he do to quell it? I fear the answer to that question.
And Jeffrey, keep up the good work. You've been ridiculed, but pretty much everything you've identified as possibilities are all coming to fruition. Your only fault is even you couldn't predict half of the ridiculousness that's happened in the last 6 weeks.
My 2 cents worth,
Reckon some truth there SR.
I thought after speaking with a couple of seppo mate that blue states such as California will just go their own way and ignore federal govt.
Maybe California could become part of Canada? Haha.
All the Trump states are pretty much the 'backward' ones for lack of a better word ey?
southernraw wrote:How long until the worm turns would be my question.
You have many republicans right now scratching their heads,
How long until the party as a whole turns against Trump?
He's now calling CNN and MSNBC 'illegal'. As the sitting president, those words carry weight.
What comes next from those words? Will laws be enforced to silence them?
I stated a while ago that while this isn't Nazism, he's showed all along the traits of what took the Nazi party from a political movement to a dictatorship.
My question is. When do the ripples of discontent within his own party turn into an unstoppable tsunami and what will he do to quell it? I fear the answer to that question.
And Jeffrey, keep up the good work. You've been ridiculed, but pretty much everything you've identified as possibilities are all coming to fruition. Your only fault is even you couldn't predict half of the ridiculousness that's happened in the last 6 weeks.
My 2 cents worth,
Kind of what u are saying
https://m.
Cheers for that one @andymac.
Just on those protests last night, i watched for about an hour and the estimate was about 10,000 people....a significant number. I wondered how the media would portray it, if they'd even give it any coverage at all. Well, got up this morning, scoured a few MSM websites, including the bloody New York Times. And nothing Not even a mention that i could find. Keep in mind they had shut down Broadway and Wall Street to allow the protesters to march.
Was chatting to my friend in Boston a few days ago, and she and her friends believes the media is being manipulated to stop American people from seeing anything that discredits Trump/musk.
These are wacky times.
andy-mac wrote:southernraw wrote:How long until the worm turns would be my question.
You have many republicans right now scratching their heads,
How long until the party as a whole turns against Trump?
He's now calling CNN and MSNBC 'illegal'. As the sitting president, those words carry weight.
What comes next from those words? Will laws be enforced to silence them?
I stated a while ago that while this isn't Nazism, he's showed all along the traits of what took the Nazi party from a political movement to a dictatorship.
My question is. When do the ripples of discontent within his own party turn into an unstoppable tsunami and what will he do to quell it? I fear the answer to that question.
And Jeffrey, keep up the good work. You've been ridiculed, but pretty much everything you've identified as possibilities are all coming to fruition. Your only fault is even you couldn't predict half of the ridiculousness that's happened in the last 6 weeks.
My 2 cents worth,Kind of what u are saying
https://m.
Interesting. And yep, was gonna expand on what i was thinking, but this fella kinda hit all those points. Trump is Trumpism, and not really in any way aligned with Republican core values. Alot of people are crying out now for the Democrats to do something about Trump/musk, and yep, while they could, the Dems are kinda dead ducks right now. They are even aligning with Trump policies that is an extra kick in the guts to Americans.
The Republicans were the conduit that allowed Trump into power..twice. At least the Dems weren't stupid enough to allow him that opportunity, not forgetting his former allegiance to that party. They created this monster, they need to fix it. And i think this factional infighting is the beginning of that.
During that march last night the cameraman was interviewing some of the protesters. One of them, a fella in his late 60s, former veteran, iron industry worker, quiet spoken was interviewed, and at the very end of his interview, he turned and looked towards city hall and said, 'this is Berlin in 1933". Take that for what it is, but that's a small sample size of the feeling amongst some Americans.
Good to see some protests but the country was burning with protests the last time Trump was in. And it all culminated with the Jan 6th attack. And nothing happened, he’s the president again. You also had around 100,000 people marching in 2012 as a part of occupy wall st protest. Again, nothing happened. So I’m a bit pessimistic but I’ll be happy if I’m proven wrong.
Good to see USA taking action on the Houthis, everyone loses from Houthi's terrorism not just Israel but world trade.
Even Egypt lost 7 billion (60% ) of Suez canal revenue because of them in 2024
wax24 wrote:Oops!! (I tend to do that.. .even when not dying of cancer, lol). Sorry Jeffy, et al....
Back to regular programming.
I saw a video tonite of a coupla motorists in Livermore (inland town here in Bay Area... holds no pull for me). They both got outta car for road rage confrontation. One pulled out a gun and fired four times. The other collapsed, but is expected to survive. A passing car caught it all on a dash cam. This stuff is, of course, not new, but def on the upswing.
MAWWA (Make America Wild West Again)... and to quote the Wonderous George W. Bush... Misiion Accomplished!!!! (it only took 3 election cycles, but that's cuz they were preceded by 20 years of "reality" tv.)
Fellow Seppo here. Other coast. Several months ago I was getting out of the water at the pool, and I said hello to an older guy who typically starts just after me. He's a bit odd, but always seems hungry for someone to talk to, so I will typically engage with him for a few minutes. That morning, I asked him how he was doing, and he said "Great. It's the 3rd anniversary of my son getting shot." Incredibly strange thing to say, but of course I said "How is he?" and he said "He's fine now. Had words with another driver in morning rush hour, and he got shot right in the face. All healed up, and just looks like he has a dimple now."
And then he launched into a rant about how the crime would never be solved becaue the mayor of Nashville was a friend of nationally known Democratic political figure (Pritzker, from Illinois), so they had no interest in solving the crime.
Which of course makes no sense, but it obviously made all the sense in the world to him.
Interesting perspective @flollo. Where are all the Trump supporters enmasse now then? And what's happened to all the big MAGA rallies (admittedly there's no use for them now he's in presidency, but hey, they've never been shy of forming large groups to shout their opposition down in the past). There's definitely a movement happening and i personally think it'll grow legs that eventually will be too big to be ignored. And i don't think it'll happen in months. More likely weeks.
I've been trying to find anything about the protests and all i could find was this and other newsites focusing on the one or two arrests. Predictably.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/new-york-s-times-square-fl...
No, i watched the protests for an hour, and while a part of it was in support of this Mahmoud Khalil, the overwhelming majority were marching against Trump, Musk, Doge, Medicaid being cut, jobs losses and all the real issues affecting everyday Americans. But of course the media won't focus on that. They'll find the divisive point and run with that. Palestine.
Flollo...Feet hitting the pavement and power of the people is the one last bastion of free speech that people have the constitutional right to express. I'm not sure what other way there is to affect some form of change, but yep, you're probably right. It may have little to no effect and i hope i'm wrong on that also.
And btw, keep up your informative posts, i learn alot from them and they tend to help keep my views a bit more balanced. Cheers.
More bullshit reporting. "Bellowing signs" "made up of mostly young people".
https://www.amny.com/news/mass-protests-nyc-mahmoud-khalil-arrest-ice/
I watched it! This is straight out fake. I saw a granny probably in her 90's pushing a walking frame through the streets of Manhatten. There were people of all colours, from all walks of life, and there was definitely no diffinitive age demographic....it was all ages, alot of older people... and the majority of signage were about Trump, Musk, Doge and their loss of civil rights. Pleas to end the autocracy and dictatorship. This was the message.
Amazing watching just how manupulative the mainstream media is.
Go back and watch it if you need to see the clear disconnect between the truth and what's being reported. Just skip to different sections of the march and you'll see the reality.
southernraw wrote:How long until the worm turns would be my question.
You have many republicans right now scratching their heads,
How long until the party as a whole turns against Trump?
He's now calling CNN and MSNBC 'illegal'. As the sitting president, those words carry weight.
What comes next from those words? Will laws be enforced to silence them?
I stated a while ago that while this isn't Nazism, he's showed all along the traits of what took the Nazi party from a political movement to a dictatorship.
My question is. When do the ripples of discontent within his own party turn into an unstoppable tsunami and what will he do to quell it? I fear the answer to that question.
And Jeffrey, keep up the good work. You've been ridiculed, but pretty much everything you've identified as possibilities are all coming to fruition. Your only fault is even you couldn't predict half of the ridiculousness that's happened in the last 6 weeks.
My 2 cents worth,
My opinion is that the worm will never turn here in the US. There could literally be another depression and it wouldn't matter. Why do I say that? Bear with me for a minute, and you'll see where I'm going.
10+ years ago here in the southern US, the most common bumper stickers were for the driver's favorite Nascar driver. Once you picked one, you never switched. It didn't matter if he got loose in turn 2 and took out half the field in every race for the next 5 years, you were so emotionally invested that switching allegiances wasn't ever going to happen.
Now? Very few Nascar bumper stickers. It's all MAGA, all the time. Half the country is completely invested in him emotionally.
Even if my theory is wrong, IMO it won't matter, as I seriously doubt there will be anything close to a free and fair election in 2028. Trump will just declare a national emergency (Like, I don't know...being left with no choice but to invade Canada?) and "pause" the elections until some distant point in the future.
Hopefully we'll revisit this in 4 years and I'll be completely off base, but unfortunately I don't think that will be the case.
Unfortunately i think you're right @mick66.
Just gotta wonder when those medicaid cuts start to really affect the red states of the US, which, you'd imagine are the ones depending on it more than most due to lifestyle choices, that only then, will they be forced into changing their stance.
The thing is, it's no longer Republicans V Democrats. It's clearly Trump and Musk doing whatever the hell they want. Can only hope that even the most die hard Trump fans will realise they're not on a side anymore, they're in a cohort that openly supports an oligarchy.
All the best over there mate. Thanks for your insight.
southernraw wrote:Interesting perspective @flollo. Where are all the Trump supporters enmasse now then? And what's happened to all the big MAGA rallies (admittedly there's no use for them now he's in presidency, but hey, they've never been shy of forming large groups to shout their opposition down in the past). There's definitely a movement happening and i personally think it'll grow legs that eventually will be too big to be ignored. And i don't think it'll happen in months. More likely weeks.
I've been trying to find anything about the protests and all i could find was this and other newsites focusing on the one or two arrests. Predictably.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/new-york-s-times-square-fl...
No, i watched the protests for an hour, and while a part of it was in support of this Mahmoud Khalil, the overwhelming majority were marching against Trump, Musk, Doge, Medicaid being cut, jobs losses and all the real issues affecting everyday Americans. But of course the media won't focus on that. They'll find the divisive point and run with that. Palestine.
Flollo...Feet hitting the pavement and power of the people is the one last bastion of free speech that people have the constitutional right to express. I'm not sure what other way there is to affect some form of change, but yep, you're probably right. It may have little to no effect and i hope i'm wrong on that also.
And btw, keep up your informative posts, i learn alot from them and they tend to help keep my views a bit more balanced. Cheers.
Something weird is going on. Too many people and opposing politicians are still treating Trump as an incompetent fool with no plan. Let him drown himself is a prevailing attitude.
I strongly disagree with this. Someone who survived the turmoil of the first presidency and staged such a comeback is not incompetent. He might be evil but not incompetent. There are plenty of people who firmly believe that Project 2025 is happening. But at the same time think that he’s stupid and that he’s got no plan? Those two don’t go together, Project 2025 is a plan and if you believe that Trump will implement it you should fight right here right now. He has proven time and time again that he cannot be discounted until he’s dead. So the fight needs to start immediately rather than later. I don’t know if it will happen and will it reach the critical mass to take him down. Again, I’m a bit pessimistic but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see it happen. Happy to be proven wrong.
On the international front (which is the one that impacts us I guess) his plan is to run a protection racket against other countries. That is, by now, super clear. That racket can come in many different forms. There’s a raging argument in Taiwan about TSMC who were in the US with Trump and announced a $100B semiconductor investment. The opposition is blaming the government for selling out their strategic advantage. At the end of the day, it’s the semiconductors that are maintaining peace in Taiwan. What happens if that moves to the US? Surely that move was done under agreement of ongoing US military support?
There’s also an upcoming hot discussion in Japan. Why does Trump talk so much about Japan? And why are Japanese spending so much time in his office? This is why:
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Trump-administration/Trump-s-ambassado...
Australia could be the main discussion point any day now. I have a feeling that Trump will stir things up close to the election. We did a massive mistake of not replacing Rudd as an ambassador considering his public hate towards Trump. They will create the perception that the US cannot rely on current admin with Trump hater in the US and Dutton will magically become a solution. This is not some far fetched scenario, this is real and we need to fight against it.
Agree with all those points @flollo and thanks for expressing it in a way i struggle to!
Yeah i've said all along he's not stupid. In fact he's extremely cunning and knows exactly how to use the tools at his disposal to maximum effect (the people he surrounds himself with and the media), the former being the biggest difference between this term and his previous.
Cheers mate.
southernraw wrote:How long until the worm turns would be my question.
You have many republicans right now scratching their heads,
How long until the party as a whole turns against Trump?
He's now calling CNN and MSNBC 'illegal'. As the sitting president, those words carry weight.
What comes next from those words? Will laws be enforced to silence them?
I stated a while ago that while this isn't Nazism, he's showed all along the traits of what took the Nazi party from a political movement to a dictatorship.
My question is. When do the ripples of discontent within his own party turn into an unstoppable tsunami and what will he do to quell it? I fear the answer to that question.
And Jeffrey, keep up the good work. You've been ridiculed, but pretty much everything you've identified as possibilities are all coming to fruition. Your only fault is even you couldn't predict half of the ridiculousness that's happened in the last 6 weeks.
My 2 cents worth,
Yeah Jeff says thanks
Your right,a few people criticise the news sources used ,as left wing, but no one ever complains about misinformation or unfactualness , except for @supafreak
who thinks if he doesn’t know about something,it can’t be true.
That’s why with Trump now attacking the Judiciary and mainstream media,
independent media is so important to keep going, the more backing they get , the stronger they are.
we are usefully complex now in Aus, with the uptick of people with residential status being born in asian countries, well overtaking western.. a lot of asian countries have that romance with Aus that the UK used to, where it is some civilised land to the south where they have rellies and have visited on holiday and had a nice time.
southernraw wrote:More bullshit reporting. "Bellowing signs" "made up of mostly young people".
https://www.amny.com/news/mass-protests-nyc-mahmoud-khalil-arrest-ice/
I watched it! This is straight out fake. I saw a granny probably in her 90's pushing a walking frame through the streets of Manhatten. There were people of all colours, from all walks of life, and there was definitely no diffinitive age demographic....it was all ages, alot of older people... and the majority of signage were about Trump, Musk, Doge and their loss of civil rights. Pleas to end the autocracy and dictatorship. This was the message.
Amazing watching just how manupulative the mainstream media is.
Go back and watch it if you need to see the clear disconnect between the truth and what's being reported. Just skip to different sections of the march and you'll see the reality.
https://youtu.be/D75u1uvSLfk
To be fair, SR, that article is from the 11th and the video from nine hours ago. I do get your point though. The fact they that article has 10 photos and 3 of those are the same small group of amateur photographers fighting/being arrested is gonna plant the seed to the non-discerning reader that this peaceful protest was violent, especially if they didn't read the captions. AM NY is supposed to be a centre-left, news source, not that anything we're told is near the centre is remotely left leaning anymore, and the orange blowhard has been has been labelling anyone with the most passing of a social conscience "radical far leftists". But hey, at least they threw in that there were some Jewish people protesting Khalil's detainment.
Mahmoud Khalil's unlawful arrest and subsequent protests should be getting blanket coverage, every single day. Jimmy Kimmel, a "liberal" (yuck), talk show host, with a huge reach of left leaning Americans hasn't touched the topic once, and he spends every opening monologue of his show shitting on Trump. ICE arrested Khalil without showing a warrant, flew him to Louisiana, 1200 miles away from his 8 month pregnant American wife, said they were acting on a state department order to revoke his student visa, and when informed that he had a green card, storied up that was also being revoked. He has not been charged, there's zero evidence that he is affiliated with Hamas, as the Trump administration and a host of Zionist would have people believe.
Americans of all stripes, should they profess to give one iota of a tinker's cuss about the constitution should be fucken outraged about this egregious dismissal of the first amendment. So should anyone anywhere that cares about free speech. Sounds like a clear cut case of "cancel culture" of the highest order, and we KNOW how much that 95 percent canard has been sticking in right wingers craws for the last decade or whatever. This is what fascism looks like, and that is not hyperbole.
First they came for the socialists...
agree, @m66, watching trump create executive decision-making from made-up states-of-emergency.. it's all or nothing next election, but the dude must be getting tired; unlike kim jong un, trump still needs to eat, sleep, shit and shower.
I personally think in his quiet moments, donald grabs a bag of Doritos and pours himself a CC & Diet Coke and stares lovingly at his heroic shot-in-the-earhole photo and dreams of a big, beautiful Donald J Trump funeral and Donald J Trump effigies..
(nothing unrealistic like a mt-rushmore-addition mind you, perhaps just a lincoln memorial equivalent, and little gold statues on every midwest mantlepiece... and of course the weekly syndicated posthumous AI Trump address from the flatscreens after Elon purchases 1 Times Square and renames it Trump Square as per their arrangement.. farkin new-yorkers, that'll show the intellectual multicultural woke socialist bastards)..
and wonders just how many people he has to annoy to get the fatal job done, ensuring his immortality.. then beats off in a frantic cloud of Dorito dust.
ahh shit. Typical of my resuuuurch @hiccups!! Thanks for that. Kinda makes my whole post null and void. Uppercut to me and apologies.
Great post btw.
basesix wrote:we are usefully complex now in Aus, with the uptick of people with residential status being born in asian countries, well overtaking western.. a lot of asian countries have that romance with Aus that the UK used to, where it is some civilised land to the south where they have rellies and have visited on holiday and had a nice time.
Your right , amazing how happy they all are despite their predicament though.
?si=wPHDnbU8xjBym3xi flollo wrote:southernraw wrote:Interesting perspective @flollo. Where are all the Trump supporters enmasse now then? And what's happened to all the big MAGA rallies (admittedly there's no use for them now he's in presidency, but hey, they've never been shy of forming large groups to shout their opposition down in the past). There's definitely a movement happening and i personally think it'll grow legs that eventually will be too big to be ignored. And i don't think it'll happen in months. More likely weeks.
I've been trying to find anything about the protests and all i could find was this and other newsites focusing on the one or two arrests. Predictably.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/new-york-s-times-square-fl...
No, i watched the protests for an hour, and while a part of it was in support of this Mahmoud Khalil, the overwhelming majority were marching against Trump, Musk, Doge, Medicaid being cut, jobs losses and all the real issues affecting everyday Americans. But of course the media won't focus on that. They'll find the divisive point and run with that. Palestine.
Flollo...Feet hitting the pavement and power of the people is the one last bastion of free speech that people have the constitutional right to express. I'm not sure what other way there is to affect some form of change, but yep, you're probably right. It may have little to no effect and i hope i'm wrong on that also.
And btw, keep up your informative posts, i learn alot from them and they tend to help keep my views a bit more balanced. Cheers.Something weird is going on. Too many people and opposing politicians are still treating Trump as an incompetent fool with no plan. Let him drown himself is a prevailing attitude.
I strongly disagree with this. Someone who survived the turmoil of the first presidency and staged such a comeback is not incompetent. He might be evil but not incompetent. There are plenty of people who firmly believe that Project 2025 is happening. But at the same time think that he’s stupid and that he’s got no plan? Those two don’t go together, Project 2025 is a plan and if you believe that Trump will implement it you should fight right here right now. He has proven time and time again that he cannot be discounted until he’s dead. So the fight needs to start immediately rather than later. I don’t know if it will happen and will it reach the critical mass to take him down. Again, I’m a bit pessimistic but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see it happen. Happy to be proven wrong.
On the international front (which is the one that impacts us I guess) his plan is to run a protection racket against other countries. That is, by now, super clear. That racket can come in many different forms. There’s a raging argument in Taiwan about TSMC who were in the US with Trump and announced a $100B semiconductor investment. The opposition is blaming the government for selling out their strategic advantage. At the end of the day, it’s the semiconductors that are maintaining peace in Taiwan. What happens if that moves to the US? Surely that move was done under agreement of ongoing US military support?
There’s also an upcoming hot discussion in Japan. Why does Trump talk so much about Japan? And why are Japanese spending so much time in his office? This is why:
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Trump-administration/Trump-s-ambassado...
Australia could be the main discussion point any day now. I have a feeling that Trump will stir things up close to the election. We did a massive mistake of not replacing Rudd as an ambassador considering his public hate towards Trump. They will create the perception that the US cannot rely on current admin with Trump hater in the US and Dutton will magically become a solution. This is not some far fetched scenario, this is real and we need to fight against it.
I have had that conversation with colleagues who laugh at Trump and call him stupid etc.
I always disagree, he is as smart as a sewer rat with the same morals.
Even all the comedy being done at his expense is frightening, it makes what he is doing a joke when really it has now reached the point where any thinking American should be really questioning where their country is headed.
Not a tine to laugh but start resisting, amazing media is not calling it out more.
Trump now saying CNN etc should be illegal.
After going for the socialists, they take the media..
Another fellow decades ago was made fun of... had a funny little moustache.
https://m.
&pp=ygUWbGl0dGxlIGRpY3RhdG9yIHNwZWVjaA%3D%3D Confusion wrote:basesix wrote:we are usefully complex now in Aus, with the uptick of people with residential status being born in asian countries, well overtaking western.. a lot of asian countries have that romance with Aus that the UK used to, where it is some civilised land to the south where they have rellies and have visited on holiday and had a nice time.
Your right , amazing how happy they all are despite their predicament though.
?si=wPHDnbU8xjBym3xi
In general, people who live in those predicaments you’ve described, are generally happy with the things they do have and not unhappy about the things they don’t have.
They live a simple life with a smile on their faces.
Converse to their society, we are often very grumpy, tired, unhappy and stressed about all the things (consumption) we do, have and want. A much more complex existence.
I know the one I prefer. AW
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