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The one good thing about Youtube is the 'Do it Yourself' knowledge sharing, look up any subject and you will find dozens of people sharing experiential knowledge.
For example a few years ago I decided to turn an old rusty unregistered trailer into a towable firefighting trailer with a 1,000 litre cage tank and petrol pump.
After reading several clips I had all the info necessary to go ahead.
One person even shared how long it takes to empty the water from the tank using 2'' fire hose, 4 minutes.
I also like the music algorithm.
The censoring on that site is criminal, X is much better, though some of the hate speech allowed
doesn't give me much hope for humanity.
Maybe our destiny is for Blackrock to turn planet earth into a black rock
For all US Election buffs - What were getting wrong - by Niall Ferguson - prominent economic /historian and self described elite who argues our worries about who will win the US election may be overblown compared to some other issues closer to home . Good value half hour or so listening.
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/global-roaming/global-roaming-ame...
philosurphizingkerching wrote:The one good thing about Youtube is the 'Do it Yourself' knowledge sharing, look up any subject and you will find dozens of people sharing experiential knowledge.
For example a few years ago I decided to turn an old rusty unregistered trailer into a towable firefighting trailer with a 1,000 litre cage tank and petrol pump.
After reading several clips I had all the info necessary to go ahead.
One person even shared how long it takes to empty the water from the tank using 2'' fire hose, 4 minutes.I also like the music algorithm.
The censoring on that site is criminal, X is much better, though some of the hate speech allowed
doesn't give me much hope for humanity.
Maybe our destiny is for Blackrock to turn planet earth into a black rock
I’m a YouTube fan.
Surfing, hunting, fishing, different documentaries.
Plus like you said, you can pretty much learn how to do anything you want.
I enjoyed John Stewart until he started talking about and like the Big Macca .
He has a great sense of humour .
He even started talking about The Big M , Fillet of Fish , the Big W .
What is IT with Americans and their fixation on Richards and Karens ???
Trump said he will Probably Pardon Hunter Biden .
No one tried to Impeach Biden 4 corruption and playing in Ukraine and China .
No Fake Steele Files , were acted upon by the FBI .
Trump doesn't want to cross out the bloody letter X , with Misinformation !
ALL those that Hate Trump have left are Cats and Dog's and Dictator Jokes .
Especially the Dict Joke , is so old imo .
When Jimmy started screaming in pain , he looked a Pelosi Dark State Goose , nearly .
YouTube is such a good social media, most kids don’t even use it or FB.
YT has some of the most interesting ad free content available…and every interest is catered for. Some really interesting and creative people post all sorts of stuff. Not a lot of hate or angry trolls which is a bonus compared to most other social media.
Hello Roady
I think both U and AW are correct .
Saw an interesting Movie on Netflix this week , Mr Marvellous I think .
It showed a family that had No You Tube and lived in the bush like AW .
Such amazing kids and so well educated .
For a number of reasons , the Family had 2 take a Middle Ground and Get more connected to Modern Life .
A nice happy ending .
thermalben wrote:Hmm, I think I'm going to quietly slip out the back door and hope no-one notices.
Haha Ben,
When I was up in Melbourne this month I came across an old Surfing Life in my brothers stack of dunny reading material and there was an article about a young fresh faced guy that the pros relied on to get forecasts for their trips and how he had "industry players" I think was the term they used, taking a lot of notice of him, something like that, and there you were Ben!
You've aged well and done well mate.
When this site started, my old school ignorance got the better of me, the cams were a new thing back then and it was ruffling a few feathers, mine included, I think it was around the time that sign went up at Lennox that wasn't so complimentary to you. I cracked the shits one day and wrote a bit of an abusive email to you and to your enduring credit you took the time and responded with a long and polite and great response. You could have easily just ignored me, but you didn't.
I understand your desire to exit the back door here, I've done it myself a few times, then found down the track that I went around the block and came back in through the front door and sat in the lounge room here talking shit again, like I am now.
I often chuckle to myself about what you guys must be thinking when you log on and read some of the rubbish we post here, but I also think the threads are as valuable a service as the cams and foreys and surf journalism you provide. A lot of us guys are divorced, or a bit broken or maybe lonely or just big mouthed pontificators and you give a vent here and when these threads are at their best they can be great reading, and very funny.
I'd like it if admin guys spent more time here but I get that you have busy lives and it's probably wiser for admin. to keep a bit of distance from some of the madness that open forums like these can generate.
I've lived a pretty isolated existence for a while now, covid lockdowns were no problem for me, I've been socially distanced for a long time, licking the wounds from a longish life well lived but that left some marks and scars. I can go days at times without human contact and that's the way I like it, I honestly prefer the company of animals and birds to most of the humans, except the special ones that I love and care about, but I still love to chat, and enjoy the chats I get here. They keep me connected, and underneath it all we are all surfers, our common bond, my people, our tribe, something we all can agree on no matter what differences of opinion or outlook.
So after sneaking out the back door quietly Ben, stop in the back yard and look back at your house, the one you built, now full of a bunch of misfits and dumbarses and characters that sit in the lounge prattling shit to each other day in day out, and having fun.
That fresh faced young dude that was forecasting for the pros built something pretty good I reckon.
Hope you are making a motza out of it.
Hey Roady. Have a think on these things….
The US borrow more money than any country/entity in the world. As of the end of 2023, the National Debt was 34 Trillion.
Some of that debt is owned by gov’t institutions. (The Federal Reserve owns $5,239, for example.) Of the debt owned by outside entities, the US Public (meaning:The Elite) owns the largest share, at $5,709. After that there are 2 countries that own the largest shares. Japan, at $1,137, and then (yep, you guessed it) China. At $816 Billion. In fact, borrowing from China has spiked since mid 2021.
Now, Trump passed a historic corporate tax cut in December 2017. After a 30 year run of wealth redistribution, the rich hardly needed it, but it put a swath of the business community in Trump’s pocket. They could trust him to “do the right thing.” That’s why he did it.
The ripple effect is this: without taxation the money required for the two MUST HAVES (social benefits, defense spending) had to be borrowed. This turned the elites here from the Taxed to Creditors (great for them, they are now increasingly “the owners”), but it also had the effect of borrowing money, from China, to support Ukraine. And China has been lending that money clear eyed while talking “friends without limits” towards Putin.
There’s more than 3 parties involved in how the war in Ukraine ends.
Great work Waxy .
Add on another $US20T in mandated Spending and the US has really stomped in the Debt do do .
The Chinese think forward and have been Selling their US Bonds 4 years , as why lend money to your Future Enemy . They like Gold .
Seems that Changed in 2021 , a bit and guessing Biden was involved in doing a Deal .
The Wars are costing 2 much money and the Arsenals will B replaced .
Trump will try and stop the wars .
I heard him say" Tariff's will Replace Income Tax" .
I wish we would do a bit of that in Australia ( I don't pay Income Tax ) .
Tariffs are like a GST , nearly .
Guessing if Xi and Putin are Dealing with Trump , the Rest of the World will have 2 follow 2 .
edit
Trump knows he is dealing with 2 Devils .
If I have 2 choose who I want to negotiate a good deal , it would be Trump .
He is a Natural , at it .
Age doesn't weary the Art of the Deal .
not hysterical
but not rational...
https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1850266038686146578
I sincerely worry about the outcome of this election when this is the mental state of some people...
and the result is not even in!
I have to admit Harris and her campaign look a bit desperate….momentum has slowed. She doesn’t have much more to offer going forward, she seems to be treading water and waiting for election day.
AlfredWallace wrote:Juliang wrote:thermalben wrote:Don't think I've posted in this thread before.
But once again, Jon Stewart brings everything into sharp relief (as he's done every single week since he got back on the Daily Show horse).
Where would we be without YouTube
explaining everything to us ?We’d be way better off as a society if we didn’t have YouTube. Young people may actually participate in humanly activities, stop flashing their body parts for money, rid the globe of mass advertising, because when you break it down , that’s all it is.
People post, it attracts an audience, YouTube charges advertisers, simple formula really.
YouTube pay uploaders peanuts. Stooged the lot of us.Older folk upload as well, more fool them also. We dont need AI, we are already living ‘artificial lives’.
Have you heard of these things, books, they’re amazing. AW
Edit. It’s a flat lake on my coast today hence the dribble.
I think most people know they’re are many pros and cons to YouTube
Too many to mention
But I wouldn’t have heard this otherwise
Wether you like it or not isn’t relevant
gotta agree with AW and adam12, the phones have turned us into walking zombies, lunching zombies, zombie zombies...
just sad
especially watching the kids...
but Utube is also excellent for 'do it yourself' dudes... fixing cars, houses etc... I've taken on jobs I'd be half clueless about without it...
it's amazing the time crew put into those vids, mechanics, tradesmen generally... amazing the inside info they are willing to give up too...
doin themselves outa a job
all for what? ...seems 5 mins of fame and not much else... but good on em...
wax24 wrote:Hey Roady. Have a think on these things….
The US borrow more money than any country/entity in the world. As of the end of 2023, the National Debt was 34 Trillion.
Some of that debt is owned by gov’t institutions. (The Federal Reserve owns $5,239, for example.) Of the debt owned by outside entities, the US Public (meaning:The Elite) owns the largest share, at $5,709. After that there are 2 countries that own the largest shares. Japan, at $1,137, and then (yep, you guessed it) China. At $816 Billion. In fact, borrowing from China has spiked since mid 2021.
Now, Trump passed a historic corporate tax cut in December 2017. After a 30 year run of wealth redistribution, the rich hardly needed it, but it put a swath of the business community in Trump’s pocket. They could trust him to “do the right thing.” That’s why he did it.
The ripple effect is this: without taxation the money required for the two MUST HAVES (social benefits, defense spending) had to be borrowed. This turned the elites here from the Taxed to Creditors (great for them, they are now increasingly “the owners”), but it also had the effect of borrowing money, from China, to support Ukraine. And China has been lending that money clear eyed while talking “friends without limits” towards Putin.
There’s more than 3 parties involved in how the war in Ukraine ends.
Just don't mention BRICS....
Heading out back door now....
sure seems the case roadkill...
I don't really get why the kamala campaign is so shit?
all she had to do is present a basic cohesive plan and trump would be toast...
but the campaign of the duck bill platitude seems either too cagey or too useless to do so...
dunno if it's the 'small target' strategy thinking that seems to have taken over the left across the world...
or they simply cannot be forward and transparent with their 'plans'?
bit o both me thinks
their reaction to the internet and it's democratisation properties has them all deer in the headlights and authoritarian like...
they gotta loosen up
in so many ways!
@PopDown'
"Age doesn't weary the Art of the Deal ."
Have you ever read it? His book.
Apart from the fact it was ghost written for him, it's the biggest load of crap and fantasy since Mein Kampf.
Take a look at his record.
He's no magical deal maker, his MO is to stiff everybody, he's fucked up most of his businesses and gone broke a dozen times. He went broke running a casino, a university, wine, meat, real estate developments, on and on.
American banks wouldn't touch him, burnt too many of them. He was funding himself washing dirty Russian oligarch cash and loans from the dodgy banks, and even that wasn't going too well for him.
Mark Burnett saved his arse, the TV producer that created Survivor and The Apprentice, the godfather of reality TV, (who's got a lot more to answer for than the resurrection of the myth of Trump IMO.)
He's a con man Hutchy, that's his only and greatest success, and he's a world class one, schooled by one of America's greatest con artists, Roy Cohn, architect of McCarthyism. Trump rode on the coat tails of his inheritance, Cohn's gangsterism, mob connections and New York power, and Ivana was as much the driving force and brains behind his real estate "successes" in the 20th century.
You want to know the real "art of the deal", the Cohn playbook, that Trump learned, adopted and still practices to this day?
Stiff everybody, ignore the law, intimidate and threaten then...
"1. Never settle, never surrender. 2. Counter-attack, counter-sue immediately. 3. No matter what happens, no matter how deeply into the muck you get, claim victory and never admit defeat.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-roy-cohn-relationship
Does that sound familiar?
I get sick of hearing from people that buy into the myth that somehow this guy is some magician of deal making. He's a joke to the real money, the real deal makers in New York, persona non grata, an unacceptable and unwelcome person. They hate his guts, burnt all his bridges, long ago, with his "deal making".
It's a myth, the great deal maker. His actual record in business speaks for itself.
I wouldn't trust him negotiating chook food for the chook shed, he'd pinch the money, buy some cheap sub standard crap, kill all the chooks and then sue me and lose and then claim he won anyway, or it was rigged.
You've been suckered I reckon old mate. Bought into a falsehood, the greatest American myth of the 21st century.
Just watch how good a deal maker he is if he wins again, because he will be in the sandpit playing with the big boys again then, and they will "deal" with that puffed up New York nepo baby bullshit artist like they did the last time, easily.
And his tariff "plan", if you can call it one, is a joke as well.
Send Americans Broke Again. SABA not MAGA.
adam12 wrote:thermalben wrote:Hmm, I think I'm going to quietly slip out the back door and hope no-one notices.
Haha Ben,
When I was up in Melbourne this month I came across an old Surfing Life in my brothers stack of dunny reading material and there was an article about a young fresh faced guy that the pros relied on to get forecasts for their trips and how he had "industry players" I think was the term they used, taking a lot of notice of him, something like that, and there you were Ben!You've aged well and done well mate.
When this site started, my old school ignorance got the better of me, the cams were a new thing back then and it was ruffling a few feathers, mine included, I think it was around the time that sign went up at Lennox that wasn't so complimentary to you. I cracked the shits one day and wrote a bit of an abusive email to you and to your enduring credit you took the time and responded with a long and polite and great response. You could have easily just ignored me, but you didn't.
I understand your desire to exit the back door here, I've done it myself a few times, then found down the track that I went around the block and came back in through the front door and sat in the lounge room here talking shit again, like I am now.I often chuckle to myself about what you guys must be thinking when you log on and read some of the rubbish we post here, but I also think the threads are as valuable a service as the cams and foreys and surf journalism you provide. A lot of us guys are divorced, or a bit broken or maybe lonely or just big mouthed pontificators and you give a vent here and when these threads are at their best they can be great reading, and very funny.
I'd like it if admin guys spent more time here but I get that you have busy lives and it's probably wiser for admin. to keep a bit of distance from some of the madness that open forums like these can generate.I've lived a pretty isolated existence for a while now, covid lockdowns were no problem for me, I've been socially distanced for a long time, licking the wounds from a longish life well lived but that left some marks and scars. I can go days at times without human contact and that's the way I like it, I honestly prefer the company of animals and birds to most of the humans, except the special ones that I love and care about, but I still love to chat, and enjoy the chats I get here. They keep me connected, and underneath it all we are all surfers, our common bond, my people, our tribe, something we all can agree on no matter what differences of opinion or outlook.
So after sneaking out the back door quietly Ben, stop in the back yard and look back at your house, the one you built, now full of a bunch of misfits and dumbarses and characters that sit in the lounge prattling shit to each other day in day out, and having fun.
That fresh faced young dude that was forecasting for the pros built something pretty good I reckon.
Hope you are making a motza out of it.
Thanks Adam, appreciate the nice words. Was actually Stab Magazine you were referring to.. sometime around 2005 I think. Been a pretty wild ride, and I there's been a lot of interesting stories over the last 22 years that'll hopefully see the light of day at some point. But yeah it's amazing to think how far things have come from the first few faxes I used to send to the local surfshops in Adelaide back in 1999.
…facts ;)
- & in this clip stu hits the keys in green, craig dons the japanese headband
…and ben dazzles in purple (back when perms were still the go)
;);)
https://m.
&pp=ygUUcGFydHkgbGlrZSBpdCdzIDE5OTk%3Dhttps://m.
You think 2005 was a long way back ?
That was just the other day ,
as they say in the classics
@ Adam12
Tbh I get the feeling that pop down
and others are aware of all these realities
But choose to ignore them ,
For 1 reason or another.
Hello Adam12
So good 2 C U contributing so knowledgeably to this thread and having you back on it , has lifted Spirits .
I was getting worried as so many Trump haters had dropped off , poor Julian felt he was getting bashed up , 4 liking Harris .
Strange days indeed , but we are back 2 the Good old Days .
You obviously have read a Trump book , not me .
You have studied History , not me .
You love digging into the nitty gritty of a Murdoch or Trump , not me .
You know so much , you seem to view EVERY important Issue , like a fn Gordian knot .
You make Trump sound like Bondy .
A B/S artist that the Banks hated .
A person who did it ALL on his own .
I have asked repeatedly , 4 anyone to give Kamala a Plug and outline WHY she should be President .
Finally U have , because she is a Woman and it's their turn ..
I would choose a Bondy/Trump type , over a Harris type , if Dealing 4 My life , every day of the week .
Great your Back is back , must be the Hendy's !
Pop Down wrote:Hello Adam12
So good 2 C U contributing so knowledgeably to this thread and having you back on it , has lifted Spirits .
I was getting worried as so many Trump haters had dropped off , poor Julian felt he was getting bashed up , 4 liking Harris .
Strange days indeed , but we are back 2 the Good old Days .
You obviously have read a Trump book , not me .
You have studied History , not me .
You love digging into the nitty gritty of a Murdoch or Trump , not me .
You know so much , you seem to view EVERY important Issue , like a fn Gordian knot .
You make Trump sound like Bondy .
A B/S artist that the Banks hated .
A person who did it ALL on his own .I have asked repeatedly , 4 anyone to give Kamala a Plug and outline WHY she should be President .
Finally U have , because she is a Woman and it's their turn ..
I would choose a Bondy/Trump type , over a Harris type , if Dealing 4 My life , every day of the week .
Great your Back is back , must be the Hendy's !
Hi pop down
My opinion on why Harris should be president
Is because the alternative is Trump
ALP scared bedwetter Tony Bourke blocks a visa for far right USA commentator Candice Owen. Jeeeze is Aus that scared of some words.
Starting to get the feeling that like Hilary, the only crack Kamala's going to find in that glass ceiling is Trumps arse pressed against it.
As for "not Trump", Dems probably should've have had an open primary.
"Not Harris" would have likely wiped the floor with the orange one.
Thanks Jules
I have acknowledged the No 1 Reason , Trump Syndrome .
It was nice 2 hear Adam12 come up with reason 2 .
Tony Bourke , WHAT were U thinking ?
Talk about US Misinformation !
Really , what a Sign and What message are U trying 2 send FFS !
Populist
Is Trump syndrome similar to
Ostrich syndrome ?
How are we ever going to know if
Donald was telling the truth about
Arny Palmers “size” ?
Roadkill wrote:ALP scared bedwetter Tony Bourke blocks a visa for far right USA commentator Candice Owen. Jeeeze is Aus that scared of some words.
Really?? That’s unbelievable.
I'm completely unsure if she should be denied a visa.
Although she's guilty of breaching the Australian Government's "Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation Bill 2024", surely we can handle some moronic crackpot dribbling shit.
But at the same time, it seems like people are getting more and more confused, and easier to manipulate and con.
Is it worth the risk of letting her broadcast her long list of absolute garbage in a time when people are taking an almost perverse pleasure in wallowing in total fabrications.
Pop Down wrote:Hello Adam12
So good 2 C U contributing so knowledgeably to this thread and having you back on it , has lifted Spirits .
I was getting worried as so many Trump haters had dropped off , poor Julian felt he was getting bashed up , 4 liking Harris .
Strange days indeed , but we are back 2 the Good old Days .
You obviously have read a Trump book , not me .
You have studied History , not me .
You love digging into the nitty gritty of a Murdoch or Trump , not me .
You know so much , you seem to view EVERY important Issue , like a fn Gordian knot .
You make Trump sound like Bondy .
A B/S artist that the Banks hated .
A person who did it ALL on his own .I have asked repeatedly , 4 anyone to give Kamala a Plug and outline WHY she should be President .
Finally U have , because she is a Woman and it's their turn ..
I would choose a Bondy/Trump type , over a Harris type , if Dealing 4 My life , every day of the week .
Great your Back is back , must be the Hendy's !
Oh Hutchy, no, no, no and no.
Yes I read Trump's book, struggled to bother finishing it but I did, he has only written the one, and you should read it seeing as you are a booster for the guy, Might give you some better perspective on him. (I suggest you read it in bed, it'll put you to sleep quicker than a rohypnol.)
You should also have a read of the Vanity Fair article I posted, it's free, and gives some insight into the criminality of Trump, his mentor Cohn, and characters like Roger Stone and Paul Manafort.
And Trump is nothing like Alan Bond. Bond started out as a panel beater for one, not a slum lord prince from Manhattan with a fat inheritance. and Bond used to pay his bankers, up to his demise, he didn't have to shop his arse around Russian oligarchs and shonky lenders or bullshit the value of his assets to banks like Deutsche to fund himself. He was no saint but he was no Trump either.
And yes I like to inform myself or be informed about topics before I go round shooting my mouth off, at least to some degree, not that I am saying you don't ...(you don't, but I still love hearing your views on things, there's often some gold in the mud!)
Now the gordian knot analogy escaped me, you've got to stop reading about the Roman Empire and Alexander the Great and the like so much, most of them were poofs you realise.
(Do you know where Alexander's greatness started? They were trying to break in a stallion and no one could do it, the horse was crazy, but a young Alexander understood it was just getting freaked out by it's own shadow, so he stepped into the ring and took the reins and led the horse around so it couldn't see it's shadow, it calmed down and he was able to mount it. The legend was born.
But you probably knew that one.)
Now Kamala's gender is not why I would vote for her, I explained one of my reasons in a post the other day, it would just be a nice bonus that finally there was a woman in charge. Women have been under attack increasingly of late, be it DV, the denial of their reproductive rights, all sorts of things. Hard fought battles and victories from past decades have been getting undermined or worse still, reversed.
It would be good for the sisters to get a win, that's all.
I also think she has superior policy positions on issues like immigration, the economy, education, taxation, climate, the Constitution and the Rule of Law, and others, including foreign policy. I've looked at her Senate voting record and her background as a law officer.
You could describe her as a moderate pragmatist politically.
Trump I could only describe as an extreme fkn idiot with basically one policy position, him, and the myth of him.
You'd put your life in his hands, I'd put my life in hers first.
Don't worry I'll give a good speech at your funeral, I know you like my funeral speeches, (a lot better than the Bondi Greek's one at your brother's wedding that's for sure, he shouldn't have got so pissed before he got up and started winging it, FMD.)
Good to chat big boy, we've gotta catch up in the flesh soon, I'll be up that way again soon so I'll ring ya.
Carry on.
AndyM wrote:I'm completely unsure if she should be denied a visa.
Although she's guilty of breaching the Australian Government's "Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation Bill 2024", surely we can handle some moronic crackpot dribbling shit.
But at the same time, it seems like people are getting more and more confused, and easier to manipulate and con.
Is it worth the risk of letting her broadcast her long list of absolute garbage in a time when people are taking an almost perverse pleasure in wallowing in total fabrications.
Who decides and where do you draw a line? What are we scared of? I’m not a fan of hers by any means but shutting someone down based on what might be said is ridiculous.
flollo wrote:AndyM wrote:I'm completely unsure if she should be denied a visa.
Although she's guilty of breaching the Australian Government's "Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation Bill 2024", surely we can handle some moronic crackpot dribbling shit.
But at the same time, it seems like people are getting more and more confused, and easier to manipulate and con.
Is it worth the risk of letting her broadcast her long list of absolute garbage in a time when people are taking an almost perverse pleasure in wallowing in total fabrications.Who decides and where do you draw a line? What are we scared of? I’m not a fan of hers by any means but shutting someone down based on what might be said is ridiculous.
From the ABC, The immigration minister gets to decide.
“ Immigration Minister Tony Burke confirmed the conservative online influencer would not be granted a visa, saying "Australia's national interest is best served when Candace Owens is somewhere else".
I’m pretty sure someone with 34 felony counts, and also a convicted sexual abuser/rapist wouldn’t get a visa from Australia?
Adam12
You are like the Horse handlers , thinking 2 much and have too much information and tie yourself AND Others in Gordian Knots .
You need to think like Alexander or Trump more and CUT Through the B/S 2 C what's important .
Things are usually pretty simple . KIS .
Kamala and Hilary are Miss Misinformation's 4 a Bloody Start .
Bourkey has NOW caught the fn disease , is THAT Good ???
Is THAT Your Rule of Law ???
Give me a break .
Her Migration Policy is better than Trump's , In what Universe is that view correct .
OK on Climate Change and probably Education ( no one mentions this ) , but ALL the others , no Way .
Isn't Free Speech in the US Constitution ?
Please Pop Up here soon and stay a while .
"The 2021 Census counted 25,422,788 people in Australia"
In a bit over 24hrs the Joe Rogan Trump YouTube interview has
25,715,828 views.
And that's not even taking into the account listens on Spotify.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank