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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Juliang Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 5:47am

Shows how low MAGA is going , to try to steal the election ,when they lose .
Happy to cheat.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:34am

Pretty much a week to go.

Betting market is clearly favouring Trump

Polls are neck and neck.

At this stage there is a lot of media and videos pumping up the position of both sides being positive about early voting numbers.

Personally id take everything they say with a grain of salt.

My heart says Trump will win.

My head says Harris will win on the back of women being more motivated to vote.

I think its pretty crazy that it looks this close, id have never thought Trump would have another chance.

But here we are.

Might even come down to who wins one state like Pennsylvania (that trump has an almost irrelevant 0.2% lead on based on 88 polls)

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Supafreak Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:38am

Any odds on civil war if trump loses ?

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:46am
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Any odds on civil war if trump loses ?

My predication one of two things will happen.

If Trump loses people will go out on the streets having a hissy fit and the media will call it riots.

If Harris loses people will hit the streets having a hissy fit, and the media will call it a peaceful protest.

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stunet Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:46am
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Any odds on civil war if trump loses ?

If war breaks out I don't expect the two sides to be civil to each other. Probably quite rude.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:48am

^^^ Boom !

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Roadkill Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:51am

That MAGA Madison Square Garden circus did Trump no favours. The crazy speakers lost him a ton of votes and helped a heap of undecided voters decide on Harris. Imo.

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Roadkill Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:52am

Is that the WW3?

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Juliang Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 8:14am

Explains how the Republican controlled House
Has shut down debate to the disadvantage
of the American people,
in order to make the Biden administration
look bad
Already an authoritarian regime.planning to steal the election.
Indo and pop down think it’s great though.

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Pop Down Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 8:09am

Poor joke Roady .

The comedian ( not Trump ) may have lost Trump a few Undecided's .

Maybe Vance will win them back , while chatting 2 Rogan ?

He is filling in for Harris's Gig , as Rogan couldn't give HER the ONE Hour she Demanded , at HER place .

Lots of People , like Joe Biden , have Voted .

The Votes are NOT counted Yet , but the Voters Party IS !

Those Votes look VERY Different 2 normal and it's happen ALL over the US .

Very Interesting ( Laugh In ) .

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Jules , if possible and in most cases , an Opposition Parties JOB , is 2 make the other side look bad .

As the Republican Party are a bunch of losers , they are Lucky their JOB was made so easy .

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Juliang Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 8:19am

@ pop down
Well watch the video if you really want to
know, from someone who knows what they’re talking about ,a congressman!

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Pop Down Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 8:43am

Hello Juliang

I was thinking to change my view and check out 1 of your " Jules Vern Clip's " ,

Then U mentioned he was a Congressman and I don't like Politicians much ( is he a Demo :)) .

So unfortunately , have decided I "REALLY" don't want 2 know , what the Guy said and can't afford 2 Catch Utuby disease .

I think I have heard enough and I don't Vote ffs !

If U summarise his main points into an Exec Summary , with Conclusion , I would read that .

Have fun .

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Juliang Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 9:33am
Pop Down wrote:

Hello Juliang

I was thinking to change my view and check out 1 of your " Jules Vern Clip's " ,

Then U mentioned he was a Congressman and I don't like Politicians much ( is he a Demo :)) .

So unfortunately , have decided I "REALLY" don't want 2 know , what the Guy said and can't afford 2 Catch Utuby disease .

I think I have heard enough and I don't Vote ffs !

If U summarise his main points into an Exec Summary , with Conclusion , I would read that .

Have fun .

If you don’t have the attention span or time
to view video,
You’ll just have to keep making guesses
and assumptions,
Because I’ve got other things to do as well.

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GuySmiley Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 10:02am
Supafreak wrote:

Any odds on civil war if trump loses ?

None, a few more good ole boys might do some stupid things and end up in jail but that's it. It may be Hollywood but this movie clip was based on real life events sure enough, a time when the US was arguably more divided than today ... the Civil Rights Movement: Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, Martin L King, the marches, riots, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement

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sypkan Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 10:17am
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That MAGA Madison Square Garden circus did Trump no favours. The crazy speakers lost him a ton of votes and helped a heap of undecided voters decide on Harris. Imo.

yep

they are fucking dumb

instead of just trying to be normal and ride out their little momentum until election day...

they do dumb shit like this

right wing nutters simply cannot contain their inner miserableness...

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sypkan Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 10:19am
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Supafreak wrote:

Any odds on civil war if trump loses ?

None, a few more good ole boys might do some stupid things and end up in jail but that's it. It may be Hollywood but this movie clip was based on real life events sure enough, a time when the US was arguably more divided than today ... the Civil Rights Movement: Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, Martin L King, the marches, riots, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement

whatever dude...

when trump won 2016, the left went into full unhinged nasty woman meltdown...

this time will be much worse

https://m.

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sypkan Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 10:26am

that was a gutless left wing nutter professor btw, hiding in the crowd, then smashing some seemingly innocent harmless trump supporter on the head with his bike lock...

the good video, showing the full confrontation, and the pathetic professor scurrying for his life when some 5 foot weedy but feisty trumpy confronted them, has been erased from the internet

funny that...

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basesix Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 10:57am
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that was a gutless left wing nutter

they're both just symptoms. same as the rest. poor fuckers.

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Juliang Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 11:06am
sypkan wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

That MAGA Madison Square Garden circus did Trump no favours. The crazy speakers lost him a ton of votes and helped a heap of undecided voters decide on Harris. Imo.

yep

they are fucking dumb

instead of just trying to be normal and ride out their little momentum until election day...

they do dumb shit like this

right wing nutters simply cannot contain their inner miserableness...

I just heard apparently , everyone’s hero,
Joe Rogan , suggested to Trump , that he should get a comedian , for his
Madison Square Garden, hate carnival.
The dumb leading the dumber?

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basesix Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 11:13am

re the stuff on this thread, that doesn't directly matter to us,
(awesome we have @wax24, and some sn travellers, to keep us grounded and give context),
2IC (pres of the senate) should be Dwayne Douglas Johnson (as @adam12 has said).
Jesse Welles for supreme leader, however,
he makes people go.. umm.. yupp.. gotcha.

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Juliang Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 11:47am
sypkan wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

Any odds on civil war if trump loses ?

None, a few more good ole boys might do some stupid things and end up in jail but that's it. It may be Hollywood but this movie clip was based on real life events sure enough, a time when the US was arguably more divided than today ... the Civil Rights Movement: Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, Martin L King, the marches, riots, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement

whatever dude...

when trump won 2016, the left went into full unhinged nasty woman meltdown...

this time will be much worse

https://m.

Yeah both sides are as bad as each other,
except maybe for an insurrection, riot,
storming of the Capital Building , attempt at overthrowing the election, cop bashing ,issue.

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sypkan Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 12:07pm

yeh, that 6 months of soros sponsored blm cop bashing was off the charts..

30 odd people dead

much worse than the 1 (trump supporter) that died at the capitol riots

6 months of it!

egged on and funded by the dems

crazy times...

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 12:14pm
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That MAGA Madison Square Garden circus did Trump no favours. The crazy speakers lost him a ton of votes and helped a heap of undecided voters decide on Harris. Imo.

I dont think so and here is why.

If people are not going to vote for Trump based on something dumb being said they would have chosen not to vote for Trump long ago.

And if they really are undecided voters at this stage, they will probably still be undecided next week and just not vote.

Campaigning at this stage isnt so much about changing people's minds, its about getting them motivated to vote.

Who can motivate their supporters to vote wins.

Its very different than Australia.

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basesix Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 12:56pm

it's pure voyeurism, with a justification, that there will be flow on economic, cultural, and societal effect..

amazing how this stuff gets certain people's juices flowing,
every shepherd convention needs ten thousand sheep,
collectively 100,000 watchers to validate them sheep conventions,
you need 10 opinions to make a functional league.

you need 1 million to take an interest when it's not even your monkeys at the sheep shows.
booyakashah, got yourself an industry.

fuck me, don't the sheep love a billioner?? or even miwyun-er. cream their pants over them.

hoowee.. wow, a shepherd with a biwyun biwyun biwyun..
must be very unhappy people, to admire biwyun-heirs.

Good chop bruddahs. We's fucking killing it!!
(agree with many of your recent points @indo)

"Its very different than Australia"

hope so. in perpetuity.

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sypkan Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 1:00pm

yes and no indo...

guy on 7.30 report last night imports carpets to US from middle east. said he "loves" trump's policies - but cannot stand the man and his vulgarity...

said he'll vote trump anyway - despite trump's tariffs impacting his business

something like well over 60% of voters actually agree with his policies

same for believing the dems have weaponised the doj etc. with their 'lawfare' against trump

similar results for believing there are questions about the 'stolen election

all of these three key issues get around a 30% of democrats agreeing!

yet the media carry on like you have to be a 'far right' MAGA twit to even consider these positions...

on the above numbers... trump should be smashing it out of the park...

but here we are... a super tight 50/50... with political violence and instability on the menu for another 4 years...

the left like to think they have a monopoly on civility and things like racism. but the truth is, people across the spectrum don't like trump's trumpyness...

and he pays for it

as fun - and justified - as it may be to 'trigger liberals'

there's a price for the gratuitous self indulgence in such things...

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basesix Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 1:04pm

reckon people are over-rating the whole 'teams' thing..
cos they have their heads up their interweb socials?

I know no-one that hates trump,
or has an opinion about harris.

cos we live in Australia.

@wax? do yanks delight in inconsequential Aussies
having opinions about things that affect people there?

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Roadkill Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 1:15pm

The whole campaign is just too long. The US folks must be getting sick of it by now. Or maybe not.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 2:42pm
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reckon people are over-rating the whole 'teams' thing..
cos they have their heads up their interweb socials?

I know no-one that hates trump,
or has an opinion about harris.

cos we live in Australia.

@wax? do yanks delight in inconsequential Aussies
having opinions about things that affect people there?

Yes but every Ozzie has skin in the game, even those that don’t live there (Australia ) …….apparently.

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 3:34pm

So we had Trump saving the cats and dogs in that glorious meme, there's been exploding ballot boxes, and I've found this headline again with an animal theme:

'Putin's pro-Trump trolls accuse Harris of poaching rhinos'

https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/25/russia_china_iran_election_disinfo/

It's been a fairly full election campaign.

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tubeshooter Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 3:45pm

Clean up on aisle 5.
Biden has a 'deplorable' moment.

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southernraw Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 6:18pm

Just watched all of Kamala's Washington DC speech.
Geez she spoke well.
I'd put that down as one of the great political speeches i've ever seen.
Of course I'm biased, and i tried to watch it through that lens....
But she looks every bit a president.
Good luck to her.
I really hope she brings it home. She's a damn good human being.

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old-dog Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:26pm

I think we are affected by who wins.
I wouldn't say I hate Trump but when he got voted out last time the wife and I said hallelujah, thank fuck we don't have to see this smug, rude, disrespectful piece of shit on telly every night telling us how great he is and sending bad vibes and negativity into our lives. He is so in your face and can't stand not being the center of attention for 5 mins, has the intellect of a spoilt 12-year-old, and has to force his opinion on everything down everyone's throat.
We saw more of Trump in his 4 years than all the previous Presidents in my lifetime put together.
The best politicians are the ones you see the least of. Fuck off.

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southernraw Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 7:43pm

Agreed @wiseolddog.

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flollo Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 8:04pm

‘Trump wins 52 times out of 100
in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election.
Harris wins 48 times out of 100.
There is a less than 1-in-100 chance of no Electoral College winner.’

I hope Harris wins. I like stability, even when it’s not perfect. Trump brings chaos and isolationism. I cannot support that.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo

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A Salty Dog Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 8:27pm
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I think we are affected by who wins.
I wouldn't say I hate Trump but when he got voted out last time the wife and I said hallelujah, thank fuck we don't have to see this smug, rude, disrespectful piece of shit on telly every night telling us how great he is and sending bad vibes and negativity into our lives. He is so in your face and can't stand not being the center of attention for 5 mins, has the intellect of a spoilt 12-year-old, and has to force his opinion on everything down everyone's throat.
We saw more of Trump in his 4 years than all the previous Presidents in my lifetime put together.
The best politicians are the ones you see the least of. Fuck off.

I share the same sentiment old- dog.

The fake tan, the hair, the mannerisms, the insults, the abuse: the negatives are endless. So many things just put me off.

While he may be good for the stock market and my super balance, I’d rather see Harris win. She seems a much more balanced and rational type of person who would not act on impulse.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 9:55pm
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Well said

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezos-washington...

Over 24000 comments on that article , I only read the first 15 , many see the article for what it is .

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basesix Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 10:23pm
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I share the same sentiment old- dog.

yep, if we must have an opinion, in Aus, 90% would support Harris, 10% would support donald and look around the room, hoping for attention. (PoppaD gave me these stats, I trust 'em ; )

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Supafreak Wednesday, 30 Oct 2024 at 11:14pm

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Supafreak Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 12:52am

I’ve always liked Tulsi , she and Bernie would have made a great team, she obviously didn’t fit in with the clinton’s “ vision “ but to say Trump is the US of As best hope shows how farked they are .

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stunet Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 6:12am
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Well said

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezos-washington...

It's all too late. Trust has been eroded and the ground has been ceded to outlets such as The Free Press who cover the American news without being part of any political tribe.

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philosurphizing... Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 7:47am
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I’ve always liked Tulsi , she and Bernie would have made a great team, she obviously didn’t fit in with the clinton’s “ vision “ but to say Trump is the US of As best hope shows how farked they are . https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBv1139PGPX/?igsh=M3F6bTJvOHUxbjB4

And she's a surfer.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 8:27am

Trump also surfs

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stunet Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 8:50am

Op ed from today's TFP.

"At The Washington Post, the furor among its journalists over Bezos’s squashing the Harris endorsement is not because their “independent journalism” is being harmed. It’s because, like most of their brethren in the mainstream media, they think it’s imperative for Harris to win. According to the Free Beacon, during a heated meeting with editorial page editor David Shipley, one editor blurted out: “One thing that can’t happen in this country is for Trump to get another four years.”

"But half the country wants Donald Trump for another four years. Whether he wins or loses, half of America is voting for him. So isn’t it strange that the institutions that talk the most about diversity and inclusion can’t stomach those whose views align with half of Americans?

"We flipped this dynamic on its head. At The Free Press, it’s okay to be liberal or conservative or politically nonbinary.

"That’s because the fundamental value we share—with each other and with our readers—is a commitment to seeking and telling the truth, which allows us to disagree without disrespecting one another. We share an understanding that the truth isn’t something you bring back like a moon rock and put behind glass, but that the best answers you can get under changing circumstances in an ever-shifting world are always subject to revision.

"We share the view that politics need not be a team sport. We share the view that our vocation is not about ushering readers to a political conclusion, but to tell stories that reflect the complicated nature of issues so often presented as simple and settled. If we knew in advance who—or what—was deplorable, we wouldn’t need journalism.

"Most importantly, all of us believe that there is not an “enemy within” among our fellow Americans, nor do we believe in referring to any of them as “garbage.” And we are grateful for our privilege—one beautifully expressed by my Russia-born colleague Tanya Lukyanova, who became an American citizen a few months ago and will vote this year in a free and fair election for the very first time: “When I step into the voting booth I’ll think about how lucky I am to be here, where my vote is not just an act of resistance, but a genuine opportunity to make a choice.”

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old-dog Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 9:38am

That footage of Ivanka "surfing" at the ranch illustrates everything that is wrong with todays world. Is it even real, it looks like she has been stitched in on a green screen. The comments like go girl, keep on ripping, mastered it, amazing, girl you rock, make it look so easy etc. are cringeworthy and shows how easily people are conned by the Trumps.
There is another clip of her surfing a boat wake while doing a bikini shoot with perfect hair and makeup and shots of her attempting to stand on a 10' softie in 6" of whitewater without success.
Everyone wants to jump on the surfing bandwagon to show how cool they are.

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wax24 Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 10:57am
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it's pure voyeurism, with a justification, that there will be flow on economic, cultural, and societal effect..

amazing how this stuff gets certain people's juices flowing,
every shepherd convention needs ten thousand sheep,
collectively 100,000 watchers to validate them sheep conventions,
you need 10 opinions to make a functional league.

you need 1 million to take an interest when it's not even your monkeys at the sheep shows.
booyakashah, got yourself an industry.

fuck me, don't the sheep love a billioner?? or even miwyun-er. cream their pants over them.

hoowee.. wow, a shepherd with a biwyun biwyun biwyun..
must be very unhappy people, to admire biwyun-heirs.

Good chop bruddahs. We's fucking killing it!!
(agree with many of your recent points @indo)

"Its very different than Australia"

hope so. in perpetuity.

Basey… i was just on my balcony. Third story of a 3 story apt bldg. It overlooks a school. The school is K-6. (which means kindergarten (a kinda elevated pre-school) thru to 6th grade.
Your typical 6th grade grom is 11 years old.
Anyways, the gymnasium was pumpin!
A first rate basketball tilt was underway.
I heard the rhythmic cheers i used to hear when I was 11 years old and starring? in these athletics…
“GOOO… TEEEEAAM… GOOOO!!!
Little grommet cheerleaders.
Warms the heart, anyways….
These peeps in this hood?
Brown.
Very few of em were born here.
The kids? Possibly.
Hard workin folks, no crime, i exchange hearty well meant “go wells” every day.
I don’t know many first names, but that is more to do with my aloofness. I talk a lot at work, in meetings, in the community, so by the time i turn off the car in the lot… i’m past done.
Anyways…. interesting and comforting to see… the culture and way of life being picked up.
I understand they are eatin cats and dogs in Springfield, but, here, we all get along and regard other warmly.
(shrug)

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basesix Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 11:04am

and may the USA continue to be great in that regard, at least @wax.
Led the world, not since the Roman Empire has a place embraced so many cultures,
and revelled in it, we grew up watching Sesame Street here, we know y'all pretty well.

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Op ed from today's TFP.

"At The Washington Post, the furor among its journalists over Bezos’s squashing the Harris endorsement is not because their “independent journalism” is being harmed. It’s because, like most of their brethren in the mainstream media, they think it’s imperative for Harris to win. According to the Free Beacon, during a heated meeting with editorial page editor David Shipley, one editor blurted out: “One thing that can’t happen in this country is for Trump to get another four years.”

"But half the country wants Donald Trump for another four years. Whether he wins or loses, half of America is voting for him. So isn’t it strange that the institutions that talk the most about diversity and inclusion can’t stomach those whose views align with half of Americans?

"We flipped this dynamic on its head. At The Free Press, it’s okay to be liberal or conservative or politically nonbinary.

"That’s because the fundamental value we share—with each other and with our readers—is a commitment to seeking and telling the truth, which allows us to disagree without disrespecting one another. We share an understanding that the truth isn’t something you bring back like a moon rock and put behind glass, but that the best answers you can get under changing circumstances in an ever-shifting world are always subject to revision.

"We share the view that politics need not be a team sport. We share the view that our vocation is not about ushering readers to a political conclusion, but to tell stories that reflect the complicated nature of issues so often presented as simple and settled. If we knew in advance who—or what—was deplorable, we wouldn’t need journalism.

"Most importantly, all of us believe that there is not an “enemy within” among our fellow Americans, nor do we believe in referring to any of them as “garbage.” And we are grateful for our privilege—one beautifully expressed by my Russia-born colleague Tanya Lukyanova, who became an American citizen a few months ago and will vote this year in a free and fair election for the very first time: “When I step into the voting booth I’ll think about how lucky I am to be here, where my vote is not just an act of resistance, but a genuine opportunity to make a choice.”

I shed a little tear ^.
(in a world full of outlandish hyperbole, when did it become uncool to say something as simple, inspiring and great as this?)

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basesix Thursday, 31 Oct 2024 at 1:02pm

not sure if I've posted this, my 18yo daughter and her boyfriend are right into these outdoor boys vids, luke and his 3 boys.. super authentic feller, doing swallows and amazons, my side of the mountain, -7 degrees stuff, lake stuff, snow cave stuff, just a regular bloke.. eats frickin well..
https://www.youtube.com/outdoorboys