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Supafreak wrote:@indo , my teeth are slowly deteriorating to the point that the top teeth have fuck all enamel left and the front teeth are getting very thin . So I’m getting a series of crowns and bridges on the top , 10 teeth in all for 30,000,000 rp . Bottom teeth are still good for another 5 years or so . I’ve used this female dentist before when the wife got 4 teeth bridged 9 years ago and no problems . The reviews over the last 10 years are outstanding. 3,000,000 rp per tooth compared to Australia where I was quoted from $1200 to $2500 per tooth . I had the prep work done a few days ago and actually fell asleep 4 times in 3 1/2 hours. Never fallen asleep in dentist chair in my life as I’m usually too tense . Easily the best dentist I’ve been to . See how they are in a few years .
Wow, that’s a bargain. Well done, I would never pay Aussie prices and I encourage many others to simply fly overseas. On par quality at fraction of the price.


indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:Rogan and Trump. This weekend apparently.
Looking forward to this chat. 2 hours + of full crazy with zero fact checking. Should be a beauty of an episode
Ha ha yeah i dig Rogan, but he also spins some shit, him & trump talking about stuff like Covid, lockdowns, vaccination's, health, deep state etc i can see things they say causing some controversy in main stream media.
Rogan is great, I love his podcast. He talks shit sometimes but so do we. He’s not perfect but neither is anyone else. This is why he’s relatable and popular. Trump is smart by going there. He will win some points if he plays nicely.


indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:"Tulsi Gabbard says she’s joining the GOP at Trump rally in North Carolina"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4948241-tulsi-gabbard-joining-gop-...
She is little more than a self seeking opportunist. Just like Musk.
She could go full maga and have another shot at President in the future.
Honestly go listen to some older long in depth interviews with her and then listen to recent interviews too, i think you would change your view if you did.
She is the most genuine politician about, it's no different to when Peter Garret ran with Labor, Politics is about compromise you sometimes have to work with people you would rather not and even compromise on some things to get a little progress in other areas you are passionate about.
Well if Tulsi Gabbard is the most genuine politician around,
that is going to get her absolutely nowhere with MAGA , Fox News , project 2025 etc
The most hypocritical propagandist mob in US political history .
Sounds like you’ve just come back from
Disneyland .


trump trump trump!
even the guardian now telling dem's their hyperbolic hectoring campaign is shit..
seems all this... 'threat to democracy' ...bullshit only appeals to...
a few brainwashed inbreds
and...
well...
julian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/22/harris-working-cla...


"...All of this suggests that the messaging pivot is a big mistake.
Why voters aren’t responding to messages like these is anyone’s guess, though the fable of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind. Trump was already president. And while Democrats warned about the danger he posed to democracy, we did actually have an election to get rid of him. Remember, the moral of the fable isn’t that, in the end, there wasn’t a wolf. It’s that no one believed the boy.
Moreover, the distaste for the democratic threat message among working people, and the total obliviousness to that distaste among campaign officials, is evidence itself of the huge disconnect between Harris and the working-class voters she desperately needs to win. Worse, every ad or speech spent hectoring about the Trumpian threat is one less opportunity for Harris to focus on her popular economic policies; one less opportunity to lean into a populist “people v plutocrats” narrative that actually does resonate with the working class.
If Harris loses, it’ll be because the campaign and the candidate represent a party that is now fundamentally alien to many working people – a party that has given up on mobilizing working people around shared class frustrations and aspirations. A party incapable of communicating a simple, direct, progressive economic policy agenda. A party so beholden to a contradictory mix of interests that, in the effort to appease everyone and offend no one, top strategists have rolled out a vague, unpopular and uninspiring pitch seemingly designed to help them replay the results of the 2016 election..."
scathing...
but spot on
whether she loses, or wins actually...


sypkan wrote:trump trump trump!
even the guardian now telling dem's their hyperbolic hectoring campaign is shit..
seems all this... 'threat to democracy' ...bullshit only appeals to...
a few brainwashed inbreds
and...
well...
julian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/22/harris-working-cla...
Well if sykaphant actually took the time to overcome his misogynistic ignorance, and actually see what Trump is saying
He might know what he’s talking about
But that isn’t going to happen
Your warmongering bigotry streak has been exposed by your admiration of ex military politicians.


Haha more hypocritical projection from MAGA sykophant
accusing others of being inbred. .
Donald says he loves you poorly educated people.


How can U laugh Jules , knowing the CDC has McWeaponised this Election and Just sent The Big Mac Crashing 9.5% .
Just because Trump served Kamala Fried Fries , E. coli has apparently appeared in Quarter Pounders and the CDC is investigating , by eating at more outlets .
Taking on The Big Mac and its brother the Q Pounder , is a Bridge 2 Far , in the USA , imho .
It's the End of Civilisation , US Style .


No , it’s no laughing matter.
Legal gobbledygook


indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:"Tulsi Gabbard says she’s joining the GOP at Trump rally in North Carolina"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4948241-tulsi-gabbard-joining-gop-...
She is little more than a self seeking opportunist. Just like Musk.
She could go full maga and have another shot at President in the future.
Honestly go listen to some older long in depth interviews with her and then listen to recent interviews too, i think you would change your view if you did.
She is the most genuine politician about, it's no different to when Peter Garret ran with Labor, Politics is about compromise you sometimes have to work with people you would rather not and even compromise on some things to get a little progress in other areas you are passionate about.
I have followed her for a while, she had great promise but couldn’t do the long term view so has gone to Trump.
Notice how Her and RFK, both rejected by the Dems have seen a future in Trump and maga. Trump loves picking up the rejects because they can’t threaten his position and knows they are beholden to him. They accept servitude to keep some sort of perceived relevance.
It’s all a bit pathetic really.


Roady has studied Tulsi for ages .
As a young woman , she was a Rising Democrat Star with incredible Promise thought Roady .
Future President in the making .
She changed her Dress Sense from Blue 2 Red and became an Instant Irrelevant Reject , in Roadys careful judgment , which is a bit pathetic really .
Roady , your first View was Right but U keep swinging Left .
What gives on your Road ?


Just FYI, election can also end up as a tie. Considering the circumstances, there is a chance of this happening. This article explains what would happen if that’s the case.
https://abcnews.go.com/538/happen-harris-trump-tie-electoral-college/sto...


sypkan wrote:trump trump trump!
even the guardian now telling dem's their hyperbolic hectoring campaign is shit..
seems all this... 'threat to democracy' ...bullshit only appeals to...
a few brainwashed inbreds
and...
well...
julian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/22/harris-working-cla...
This was 3 hours ago Einstein
?si=l2JeHYqh91_845wV.Ostrich brain spykans obviously knows more about US politics than
Trumps former Cheif of Staff John Kelly .


Plenty of hyperbolic hectoring going on here, not all of it from the Dems either. Sheesh.


Wax, as a spokesman for the USA on Swellnet can you tell me what you think of electing your President with the electoral college votes rather than the popular vote?
It seems a bit unfair to me but would love to hear your opinion.
Thx


Next step down in the bullshit ,
We’ll all be getting normalised to Hitler,
Chicken Littles !


Listening the BBC world news last night and a pundit mentioned this, got my attention for sure...with the polling so close and the race so tight there is a good chance the electoral college vote ties at 269 each, both one short of the required 270. In that case the decision goes to Congress to determine who becomes President, but here's the rub, the House vote decides who is President but the Senate votes on who is Vice President, and it would be a real possibility that Trump becomes President and the Senate votes in Walz as VP..
Holy shitstorm Batman!
It has happened before apparently, many years ago.
Either way, with things so tight I think the fun and games will only be just getting started come election day. Get the popcorn ready.


Oops, edit, @Flollo already mentioned this.
Sorry mate.
I really should read thru these things before I post.


Warren Buffett is a Democrat , dislikes Trump and likes endorsing good candidates .
He has announced he Endorses no 1 .
Trump wasn't expecting 1 from Mr Berkshire Hathaway and is after a bigger Fish to complete his Hand .
Trump burnt this Fish , but Melania has been working hard to get her back , on line .
Trump will finally be able to Point to his future Cabinet .
Nikki Haley will join Trump's A Team .
She will take over from Blinken and do a much better job at stopping Wars , IF Trump wins .


Roadkill wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:"Tulsi Gabbard says she’s joining the GOP at Trump rally in North Carolina"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4948241-tulsi-gabbard-joining-gop-...
She is little more than a self seeking opportunist. Just like Musk.
She could go full maga and have another shot at President in the future.
Honestly go listen to some older long in depth interviews with her and then listen to recent interviews too, i think you would change your view if you did.
She is the most genuine politician about, it's no different to when Peter Garret ran with Labor, Politics is about compromise you sometimes have to work with people you would rather not and even compromise on some things to get a little progress in other areas you are passionate about.
I have followed her for a while, she had great promise but couldn’t do the long term view so has gone to Trump.
Notice how Her and RFK, both rejected by the Dems have seen a future in Trump and maga. Trump loves picking up the rejects because they can’t threaten his position and knows they are beholden to him. They accept servitude to keep some sort of perceived relevance.
It’s all a bit pathetic really.
They weren't rejected by the Dems, they rejected the Dems, because they became frustrated with what the party had become and also with how it's become a party of puppet's with puppet masters and they weren't willing to be puppets.
They both became independents, but then found that the Dems were working hard on bringing them down while the Republican's weren't, in a sense pushed towards Republicans.
They also started to see the Republicans held values closer to their own, to fair id expect it wasn't just the parties that had changed over time, but highly likely them too.


adam12 wrote:Listening the BBC world news last night and a pundit mentioned this, got my attention for sure...with the polling so close and the race so tight there is a good chance the electoral college vote ties at 269 each, both one short of the required 270. In that case the decision goes to Congress to determine who becomes President, but here's the rub, the House vote decides who is President but the Senate votes on who is Vice President, and it would be a real possibility that Trump becomes President and the Senate votes in Walz as VP..
Holy shitstorm Batman!
It has happened before apparently, many years ago.
Either way, with things so tight I think the fun and games will only be just getting started come election day. Get the popcorn ready.
"I am sending the Vice President as special envoy to the westernmost Aleutian Islands..."
Here's the Age's take on betting markets, and market themselves, pricing in a Trump win (plot spoiler, it's not necessarily confirmation)
https://www.theage.com.au/business/markets/in-markets-bets-are-on-a-trum...


Update on polls and betting market.
In national polls Trump has really gained ground its pretty much dead even now, in swing states Trump is ahead in all, but in reality all are so close they could go either way.
National poll average based on 12 major polls.
Harris=48.8
Trump=48.6
Swing states
Trump= 48.4
Harris= 47.5
Betting odds
Trump= 59.1
Harris=39.5


Former Trumps Chief of Staff , John Kelly ,
4 Star General
On the record
“Trump wanted the kind of generals Hitler had”
“Trump saying Hitler did some good things “
Guess it doesn’t matter, as long as someone wins a bit of money.


Watching the first part of this when Kennedy jr was speaking I was thinking that’s a lot of chemicals . Does this include McDonalds fries ?
?si=iynL-Iiz2iyZqUMj A bit petty of me maybe but shit does Trump understand what goes into Maccas fries ? https://www.chefsresource.com/what-are-the-19-ingredients-in-mcdonald%ca...



Elon preemptively strikes
?si=1dk7fggnYYrY4s8Z

@juliang , have you looked into MTN ? Like who founded them and why ? They score medium and mixed on credibility from a few different sources.


Supafreak wrote:@juliang , have you looked into MTN ? Like who founded them and why ? They score medium and mixed on credibility from a few different sources.
Have you looked into Former Chief of Staff 4 star general, John Kelly , and his credibility.
Have you looked into Fox News’s credibility and their Trump propaganda machine role
Have you looked into Trumps 30 to 1 lie ratio at the only debate he would do ,
Because he cried unfair that they would fact check him .
What part of no more fact checking interviews don’t you get?
Unbelievable a Trump fence sitter wants to bring up credibility issues.
What part of Trump on numerous Epstein flight logs don’t you get?
What part of Trump still using Epstein plane for campaigning purposes, don’t you get?
Talk about the blind leading the naive leading the dump .


Talk about Macdonalds being more newsworthy than Trumps Hitler administration!
That Hitler guy was such a larrikikin wasn’t he ?
If you care to look,
all these news items are on a lot more than one news source,
I don’t even worry about the source, because there are different versions of the same story.
Are you wondering why Fox hasn’t covered it yet? Or maybe they have put their own unique spin on it .


I just had a dream where someone said
“M. A G A wanted to ban fun ?”






“Normalising the rot “ of the
Hater’s for Trump Republicans party .
That’s what this life long Republican voter says
So don’t conveniently assume it’s just one or two people.


Hey Jules
Perhaps you have some time 2 check out Kamala doing her First real Town Hall .
CNN organised some Real Undecided Voters and had questions that Kamala hadn't seen .
I saw 1 Clip but 4 some reason , found Kamala too Hard 2 listen 2 .
Her possible First Gentleman is getting some attention 2 .
Great that Voters can C the Real Harris and hubby !


@juliang , I don’t watch your YouTube posts , there’s just far too many . I read some of what you write and understand that you don’t have the time to watch when others post videos or write something. It’s a propaganda war that I can’t be bothered with. I do read posts from those that I respect and even some that I don’t. As you may have picked up on , I don’t take it too seriously. Hope you get some waves today , I’m going to get out for the early before the stink wind gets up .


I wonder if anyone watches them?
If you want people to watch a video, i think the best avenue is to just post one video at a time, and then give your opinion on what the video is about and how you feel, and then maybe you might get others interested in clicking on it.
And yes i will click on videos that go against my viewpoints, but generally it's more media like CNN or the Guardian to see what they are saying about an issue rather than pure propaganda type videos/channels.


Juliang wrote:Are you wondering why Fox hasn’t covered it yet? Or maybe they have put their own unique spin on it .
Curious i googled it, and google came up with about half a dozen related stories from Fox on the topic, havent read any yet, seems to be a he says he said this story though.


Supafreak wrote:@juliang , I don’t watch your YouTube posts , there’s just far too many . I read some of what you write and understand that you don’t have the time to watch when others post videos or write something. It’s a propaganda war that I can’t be bothered with. I do read posts from those that I respect and even some that I don’t. As you may have picked up on , I don’t take it too seriously. Hope you get some waves today , I’m going to get out for the early before the stink wind gets up .
Ah got it
That’s why you don’t know much about what’s going on then ,
There not actually my videos, there some expert living in the US s videos,
It’s not really a propaganda war
If you watch some of Trump’s speeches and interviews,you might realise that he has mental declining issues
But if you don’t watch them, well you’re opinions aren’t valid.
Why would you be giving your opinions on something you don’t know anything about?
Or is that just some feeling you have?


Juliang wrote:It’s not really a propaganda war
Yes it is.
And if you don't realise how the media has been weaponised - and all signs point to no - then it's your opinion that isn't valid.


You don’t think climate change denialism will effect how early the stink wind may or may not come up ?
One side believes in climate change and the other calls it a hoax.
I’ll let you work out which is which .


Juliang wrote:You don’t think climate change denialism will effect how early the stink wind may or may not come up ?
One side believes in climate change and the other calls it a hoax.
I’ll let you work out which is which .
What ? !!. Juliang, have you had all your special teas today , were they all out of order or something, you’re NQR today, what’s going on in that scone of yours ?
I hope your intelligence improves as the day goes on , but I wouldn’t hold my breath. All the best . AW


AlfredWallace wrote:Juliang wrote:You don’t think climate change denialism will effect how early the stink wind may or may not come up ?
One side believes in climate change and the other calls it a hoax.
I’ll let you work out which is which .What ? !!. Juliang, have you had all your special teas today , were they all out of order or something, you’re NQR today, what’s going on in that scone of yours ?
I hope your intelligence improves as the day goes on , but I wouldn’t hold my breath. All the best . AW
Well if you haven’t seen videos of Trump proclaiming that climate change is a hoax ,
and “ we’re going to drill baby drill “ (oil and fracking)
Then I guess you don’t know what you’re talking about,
Hope you’re knowledge improves.


It’s been already a big day in the Emporium. I get why people are fearful of a trump victory and equally understand the disappointment others have with the Democrats but having just finished watching Cunk on Earth it’s time for some 90’s techno music
https://m.


Another useless YouTube video,
Don’t you know anything ?


I’m out
Have a great day all


GuySmiley wrote:I’m out
Have a great day all
You should have let it go through to the keeper,
Trying to be a hero again!


Hope you’re knowledge improves…….,.,, classic
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank