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'Barry’ was a cool show. Late career tour de force from Henry Winkler as the marvellous Hollywood narcissist Gene Cousineau. Surrounded by myriad California narcissists, Gene rises to a class of his own. (I listened to a few of Henry’s interviews around the show – he definitely comes across as a good egg.)
Maybe Californians aren’t all vacuous self-absorbed narcissists. Even ambitious lawyers from San Francisco. And Henry’s Gene Cousineau does show some substance in the end.
18 days and counting that Hollywood Harris hasn’t subjected herself to a press conference or an interview. She sure seems to enjoy hangin’ with A listers though. Seems to really enjoy it when A listers tell her, tell everyone, how wonderful and transformative she is.
The sycophantic Democratic aligned media cult propagates the illusion. More Hollywood Reporter than news organisation. The protection racket, the promotion and the fawning now becoming farcical. And these are the ones that like to bang on about speaking truth to power, holding the powerful to account etc.
The Dems running the fluffiest of fluffy pink campaigns. Like the Hollywood marketers behind the box office busting publicity campaign for Barbie are running the promo tour for movie star Harris. Sure seems to be working - 'the vibe' - thus far.
Sooner or later Harris is going to have to show she’s got some substance behind all the sizzle. You'd think.
Adam…. Jon Voigt (not the periodontist)
Pure gold and thank you, good sir.
All fair comments ref Dems celebrity hype tour… but, as a basis of comparison, where is the coherent policy position that the Trump / Vance GOP ticket is presenting?
Gonna be hard for them to stand on Policy, Eta. They are selling fear and labels. They’ve never run on policy. It’s a gear they don’t have, and, if they find it, and start a policy conversation, they have to explain away Project 2025.
They’re gonna need to stick to name calling.
G'Day Waxy
U are exactly right , Dems can't sell their Policies , as they are Stuffing Up the US .
My question is , will the people of the US buy the "anyone but Trump " story .
They couldn't sell Biden , as he was proven , Ga Ga .
The guys on SN , like Adam 12 , sure have .
Say that Trump can't win , unless another Black Swan , knocks out Harris .
Harris pushed the Inflation Reduction Act , which Cost 2.2 Trillion and , of course , put UP inflation .
She pushed the Green Deal , that wants to kill the USA Energy industry .
Her running mate , offered to buy illegal immigrants ladders .
Her party wants War .
Her party has corrupted the Lower Courts and FBI .
Trump was President 4 four years .
He showed he wasn't a Tyrant ( U can't B in the US ) , didn't try to increase the Supreme Court to 12 and stack it .
He got stifled at every turn and spent the 4 years being Impeached .
Whatever he does , in those 4 years , can be undone .
So amazing that World wide opinion has change about KH and she hasn't done or said , ANYTHING .
Talk about the Media giving her a Honeymoon .
I wonder if the US people , are buying all this ?
They are PopDown. And they’re more across the issues and seeing through the BS of the GOP.
Trump’s now the old man, and the retrograde option. Offers nothing new, and has a patchy policy record that’s fact-checkable. His running mate doesn’t attract him a single vote that wouldn’t already be voting for him.
Trump admin military record:
-Trump was the 1st POTUS to bomb Syria.
-Trump increased troop numbers in Syria
-Trump also bombed Yemen
-Trump also bombed Somalia
-Trump assassinated an Iranian military leader
-In Iraq and Syria alone, Trump drone strikes killed an estimated 13,400 civilians, per Airwars
-Trump INCREASED troop levels in Afghanistan by 25%
-Trump relaxed "rules of engagement" in Afghanistan, which nearly doubled civilian casualties
-Trump pulled out of the INF Treaty
-Trump pulled out of the Open Skies Treaty
Just keep that in mind when you see comments about Trump being the ‘peaceful’ guy.
etarip
Trump decided to pull out of Afghanistan , Biden/Harris decided to leave all their equipment there .
Trumps record U point out above , is Extraordinary !
Limiting the US Military Machine , to dropping a few bombs on Yemen , Somalia and Syria , was a fantastic achievement .
No Big Wars AND he can STOP the Ukraine/European/Russian War !
He might be Old , some of his policies Old Fashioned , BUT it is a Major Change in direction for the US , which has gone Off the rails .
The normal election issues are the Economy ( US is going into recession ) , Cost of Living ( Inflation isn't coming down ) and now Immigration .
On SN , it's Anyone , but Trump .
Cool , he can be the Underdog !
Trump recommits to a Sept. 10 debate and lashes out at Harris at news conference https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-news-conference-florida-election.... Should be entertaining
You’re deluded PopDown.
Trump fucked the Afghan ‘negotiations’, agreed to the release of 5000 fighters for no gain, left a chaotic and unfixable dilemma - he didn’t pull out of Afghanistan, he reduced troop numbers to a level where they couldn’t coordinate any kind of orderly withdrawal.
He can’t stop the Ukraine war, except by giving Russia what it wants. That’s not a deal. It’s capitulation.
You are probably right .
As President , Trump realised it was Deluded for the US 2 B in the country .
So HE finally decided to pull out .
Biden had months to prepare .
Please don't try and argue that he did a good job , of it !
Trump can just propose the Original Minsk Agreement , again !
This Time , the Germans , UK and USA , can honour the Agreement .
By deliberately dishonouring the original Minsk , NATO helped start this bloody war .
"The Minsk agreements were a series of international agreements which sought to end the Donbas war fought between armed Russian separatist groups and Armed Forces of Ukraine, with Russian regular forces playing a central part.[1] After a defeat at Ilovaisk at the end of August 2014, Russia forced Ukraine to sign the first Minsk Protocol, or the Minsk I.[2] It was drafted by the Trilateral Contact Group on Ukraine, consisting of Ukraine, Russia, and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE),[3][4] with mediation by the leaders of France and Germany in the so-called Normandy Format. After extensive talks in Minsk, Belarus, the agreement was signed on 5 September 2014 by representatives of the Trilateral Contact Group and, without recognition of their status, by the then-leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People's Republic (LPR). This agreement followed multiple previous attempts to stop the fighting in the region and aimed to implement an immediate ceasefire.
The agreement failed to stop fighting.[5] At the start of January 2015, Russia sent another large batch of its regular military.[2] Following the Russian victory at Donetsk International Airport in defiance of the Protocol, Russia repeated its pattern of August 2014, invaded with fresh forces and attacked Ukrainian forces at Debaltseve, where Ukraine suffered a major defeat, and was forced to sign a Package of Measures for the Implementation of the Minsk Agreements, or Minsk II,[2] which was signed on 12 February 2015.[6] This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented.[7] The former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested a mechanism of granting an autonomy to Eastern Donbas only after "the OSCE certified that the local elections had followed international standards", called the Steinmeier formula.[8]
Amid rising tensions between Russia and Ukraine in early 2022, Russia officially recognised the DPR and LPR on 21 February 2022.[9] Following that decision, on 22 February 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin declared that the Minsk agreements "no longer existed", and that Ukraine, not Russia, was to blame for their collapse.[10] Russia then launched a full invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022" From Wiki
History, not your strong suit @PopDown.
Merkel has admitted that The Agreement was Never meant 2 B honoured .
Sounds like the Russians knew , Adam 12 .
It never had a chance !
The shit has hit the fan for Trump, he's in meltdown.
Train wreck press conference.
This is going to be fun.
https://x.com/middleageriot/status/1821648682644578516
https://x.com/davidhogg111/status/1821614158208758045
https://x.com/levparnas/status/1821623804847919173
https://x.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1821627902099624107
Hey Adam12
The Big 5 Eye Force must have put you into Meltdown lol .
The twits you highlight :)
You are getting very excited .
Trump gave a conference and took questions , 4 one hour .
Addressed the Abortion Issue quite well and showed he is ready to fight Harris .
Harris has NOT had 1 news conference , since getting the gig .
He throws one punch and you call a train wreck .
Trump syndrome .
Seeing that , is fun 2 .
What is the ‘Big 5 Eye Force’ PD?
Hey Etarip
Malone mentioned the Big 5 , in a video clip posted yesterday .
A sneaky collaboration between US , UK , Canada , NZ and Australia , that works together , to influence Public Opinion .
We are all being Fed a bloody story , that's unbelievable , but we bloody believe it ,
Covid , is a great example .
I unfortunately , believe it .
Australia has lost a lot of OUR Autonomy !
We are marching to a Tune , played by others .
Edit
Look at the beliefs and policies of Walz .
He made Minnesota a Sanctuary for illegal immigrants and gave them drivers licences .
He wants Real Action ie sacrifices , 4 Climate Change .
He wants to defund police , but Increase spending .
People earring 200k , are leaving his state , in droves .
Woke , too Liberal , Stuff .
Australia is going down that path .
Pop Down wrote:Hey Etarip
Malone mentioned the Big 5 , in a video clip posted yesterday .
A sneaky collaboration between US , UK , Canada , NZ and Australia , that works together , to influence Public Opinion .
We are all being Fed a bloody story , that's unbelievable , but we bloody believe it ,
Covid , is a great example .
I unfortunately , believe it .
Australia has lost a lot of OUR Autonomy !
We are marching to a Tune , played by others .
Edit
Look at the beliefs and policies of Walz .
He made Minnesota a Sanctuary for illegal immigrants and gave them drivers licences .
He wants Real Action ie sacrifices , 4 Climate Change .
He wants to defund police , but Increase spending .
People earring 200k , are leaving his state , in droves .
Woke , too Liberal , Stuff .
Australia is going down that path .
5 eyes has been common knowledge for years, hardly conspiratorial.
U are right Andy-mac
What's new, is that they are ALL working hard together , to influence Public Opinion , using the Media .
It's Big Brother Stuff , in our own backyard !
Home owners in Vic , are being forced to rip out gas appliances .
Big Brother says it will save the planet , in 200 years ffs .
- 'capitulation'.....then and now ;);)
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Pop Down wrote:U are right Andy-mac
What's new, is that they are ALL working hard together , to influence Public Opinion , using the Media .
It's Big Brother Stuff , in our own backyard !
Home owners in Vic , are being forced to rip out gas appliances .
Big Brother says it will save the planet , in 200 years ffs .
I don't believe that is new; influencing public opinion has been going on for decades with help of media.
“domestic terrorist”
"...Quiet Skies eats up an astonishing amount of resources: an Inspector General’s report about the program in 2019 “identified $394 million in funds that could be put to better use,” meaning nearly half the Air Marshals’ budget was being wasted. LaBosco says this is no surprise. “Think about the overtime, the vouchers, the overnight travel, the per diems. Think of all the wasted resources that we so desperately need right now… We’re not going to find a terrorist following Tulsi Gabbard. We’re not even looking for the bad guys anymore.”..."
https://www.racket.news/p/american-stasi-tulsi-gabbard-confirms
Wrong end of the stick again JF.
I’m all for a republic. ;)
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@Sypkan,
I was reading your mate Tiabbi's twitter feed about this yesterday.
Skim reading.
Couldn't work out why they put her on TSA watch list.
Not her biggest fan but she's no terrorist.
Disturbing if it is political.
But lots of things about America and their politics is disturbing. Both sides.
Including some of the disaffected liberals themselves, although I do listen to Tiabbi and did read "Insane Clown President" a few years ago. Respect his views.
My guess is overzealous TSA bureaucracy, not a plot from above, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
Hope she gets to the bottom of it, maybe there is something, a reason, as yet undisclosed.
None of this is relevant to the election outcome, but dirty politics indeed if it is just payback for her dissent.
We play just as dirty here too.
Edit, speaking of disturbing disaffected liberals, I'd be interested on your take on RFK dumping the dead bear in Central Park. WTF was that?
^^ haha pirate patch... no right or wrong ends, just big and bigger sticks
- and glad to hear that, coz it may require a deal ;);)
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&pp=ygUMcnVzc2lhbiBwdW5r - and now, the national anthem of the republic of iraq ;)
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&pp=ygUPaXJhcSBtZXRhbCBiYW5k how can it not be political?
U certainly willing to forfeit much more grace and trust to the machine than me...
she has history with hilary and harris...
clearly political intimidation and misuse of power
disgusting
and scary
precedents...
haven't really read or shown interest in bear story
just a bit bizzaro...
a lot of things about kennedy are
shame really, he could be a real political force otherwise...
but I'm willing to listen to him, like gabbard, phillips, taibbi, greenwald...
and even donna brazille, been in around the dem machine for yonks, they know stuff...
they break ranks
should be listened too!
especially as all keep polite distance from trump train...
sypkan wrote:how can it not be political?
U certainly willing to forfeit much more grace and trust to the machine than me...
she has history with hilary and harris...
clearly political intimidation and misuse of power
disgusting
and scary
precedents...
Well if it is political then it's a pretty dumb, ineffective and counter productive payback play.
Did they think that would somehow shut her up?
You'd be dumb to think it would be anything other than the opposite of doing that.
Which is why I have my doubts.
But yes I may be naive.
Maybe they are that stupid.
FMD.
Stupid and dangerous all round in that country.
Random observations on the current state of play and the Pres campaign:
- where are Ivanka and Jared? Front and centre 2016 and 2020. Nowhere to be seen 2024.
- where’s Joe? Keeping his distance from the campaign it appears. Don’t want to alienate the new recruits?
- Where’s Melania?
- a veritable cavalcade of ex-Trump admin folks, incl VP, refusing to endorse him or even coming out for Dems. Unprecedented?
- lots of money being raised. Especially Dems. Where does it actually go?
Adam12
The Intelligence agencies have been checking out Trump and his associates MUCH more than anyone Else .
Mate , it is very obvious and a disater 4 Freedom .
Hunter's Lap top being signed off by the FBI as a Russian hoax , remember that .
PD. FBI have a statutory responsibility to investigate political candidates for links to foreign organisations.
It’s not open slather though. And a lot of the leads that point back to Americans actually originate with investigations into suspected foreign agents. What do you propose that an investigator do if they identify this? Ignore it?
Even more sus if foreign contacts aren’t disclosed.
Plays both ways too.
sypkan wrote:haven't really read or shown interest in bear story
just a bit bizzaro...
a lot of things about kennedy are
shame really, he could be a real political force otherwise...
but I'm willing to listen to him, like gabbard, phillips, taibbi, greenwald...
and even donna brazille, been in around the dem machine for yonks, they know stuff...
they break ranks
should be listened too!
especially as all keep polite distance from trump train...
Re: RFK and the bear.
Sometimes I listen to him and think "Yep", and not even on his political opinions, watched a video of him the other day in his garden with his wife talking about pesticides and thought he was spot on.
Then other times he opens his mouth and I think he's a lunatic.
The bear thing was just fkn unhinged.
He thought it was funny.
He's getting 6% in the polls, they are saying it hurts Trump more than Harris. Who knows what impact he has, if any.
The family has disowned him politically. That says something, what that something is, is open for opinion.
Would have been interesting if JFK Jnr hadn't crashed the plane and had run for President, it looked like he was building momentum towards it. Camelot 2.0. America got Obama instead.
Maybe not much would be different now, who knows.
I like the disaffected liberals you list, don't get me wrong, they play a vital role, and can speak truths the big players can't or won't.
But the election is about bigger fish and lesser evils.
Which is why I still back the Dems and would vote for them if I lived there.
Etarip
The FBI did a great job of investigating The Biden's Chinese and Ukrainian contacts .
It should play both ways , it's obviously , a One sided affair .
It's a huge problem .
Who can anyone trust ?
@PopD.
Fkn Hunter Biden laptop?
Really?
Going there again?
Chain of custody.
Look it up.
They tried every which way they could to get that shit to fly.
It didn't because it couldn't.
The Congressional hearings on the HB laptop were excruciating. What a waste of everyone’s time and money.
Lol - What about all the Impeachments gents , FBI signed a letter just before the Election .
Were they excruciating and a waste of money ?
Wasted Trumps time !
How handy .
A FBI Chain of Custardy Bullshit pie !
You guys think Joe and Hunter are Clean Skins , gosh .
Trump is being Judged and sentenced , by a Swamp , that needs cleaning .
And you think HE is the only Bad guy , ok .
Haha. My guess, you see elements of yourself in DT and vice versa.
“I’m a rogue, an outsider, I see the world differently, I’m immune to BS, I make deals”
Affinity bias manifest.
The ‘swamp’. Yep, they’re all out to get Donald.
Yes, he’s different from most of the career politicians in DC. That doesn’t make him better. He had his turn and he, frankly, fucked it. That’s what the polls are reflecting.
You’ve invested so much in this that you can’t see the reality of this ‘messiah’. You were cock-a-hoop 3 weeks ago when you thought he was a shoe in. Now it’s back to ‘they’re out to get him’
I was in the US for a couple of weeks in April. Arizona and Georgia. Cities and rural for both. Travelling with a colleague that I’d describe as a traditional conservative. You know what we didn’t see? Many Trump flags and bumper stickers. What we did see, that stood out, was a pickup with a massive Never Trump Sticker on the Interstate south of Phoenix. My view? Americans are over the Trump show. And we’re getting a distorted view by the media because he’s actually good content for them.
I was pretty sure Trump was cooked in 2020 (and posted it here on SN) when friends and colleagues, lifelong Republicans, indicated that they couldn’t vote for him. Didn’t mean that they’d vote for Joe. They just wouldn’t vote for DJT. The Hilary effect.
Now, ask yourself, is that situation going to reverse for 2024? Or worsen? Again, the polls are showing voting preferences. Not showing ‘non-voting’ preferences.
Anyway, pollies are pollies. I’m not putting anyone on a pedestal. But in an either / or race I think Trump is cooked.
"A FBI Chain of Custardy Bullshit pie !"
apparently it was good enough to use as evidence in the tax case against hunter
the gun one too I think...
so there's that
bullshit pie indeed
Ah, the silver lining. Wasn’t it the smoking gun that was going to bring down Joe?
JDS… now it’s KDS.
"The ‘swamp’. Yep, they’re all out to get Donald."
you're probably being sarcastic here...
but if you cannot see this, or more so, acknowledge this...
there's no fixing you
geez, even something like 30%+ of democrats believe they're out to get him with various lawfare cases...
throw in the repub. never trumpets, the lincoln project, the glaring indiscretions from the intelligence community...
the swamp is strong
unhinged
deranged
and dangerous
it's all about precedent...
and that's why they need to keep going harder and harder
given the questionable character trump is...
the only question is, how have they failed, time and time again?
"...Yes, he’s different from most of the career politicians in DC. That doesn’t make him better. He had his turn and he, frankly, fucked it. That’s what the polls are reflecting..."
totally agree here though
he's had so many chances to lock in a decades long republican reign...
like the one the dems forecasted, and pre-maturely celebrated, for themselves...
but he fucks it every time!
the fact he stole the dems much dreamt of permanent power from beneath them... is the only thing that can come close to explaining their perpetual unhingness, desperation, and constant dances with the devil...
etarip wrote:Ah, the silver lining. Wasn’t it the smoking gun that was going to bring down Joe?
JDS… now it’s KDS.
'plausible deniability'
they have become absolute experts at gaming the system...
and, the neoliberal order, the status quo... protects it's own...
much like our very own uni-party system ... and it's shambles of an ICAC...
sypkan wrote:"A FBI Chain of Custardy Bullshit pie !"
apparently it was good enough to use as evidence in the tax case against hunter
the gun one too I think...
so there's that
bullshit pie indeed
Nah, sorry.
The evidence used by the Trump appointed special prosecutor in the Hunter Biden tax and gun cases was not from the laptop.
It was from informants, tax records and, surprisingly, Hunter Biden's own biography.
The laptop would be inadmissible evidence in any American court because the chain of custody was compromised, that's why it wasn't used.
Like Don Jnr, Hunter was/is a junkie who tried to cash in on his father's name and behaved like a spoiled, entitled son of a famous man.
The laptop had passed through the hands of people like Giuliani and Roger Stone and fuck knows who.
It's data had been manipulated.
Worth something as propaganda.
Worthless as evidence in a court of law.
Meanwhile
Day 3 of Ukraine's incursion into Russia. The first time Russia has been invaded in 70 years. They've pushed about 30 miles in? And taken prisoners. Ukraine also recently helped with intel to wipe out a large Wagner group in Mali (remember: Russia & Wagner helped a series of coups in sub-Saharan Africa in the last couple of years, France being the loser there)... Mali cut diplomatic ties with Ukraine as a result.
Ukrainians are using Bradleys and German armour, and for those who know their history, this incredible tweet:
Guess it’s a logical counter to the ‘freeze the war on current frontlines’ narrative.
30km from Kursk nuclear power plant. Which might also be an objective. Russians won’t be able to use air power or artillery to dislodge Ukrainian troops if they can occupy. Exact same situation that the Russians have established at Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine. So again, a potential bargaining chip for negotiations. Which everyone wants, right?
ah, nah, sorry adam...
I had it the wrong way around...
you don't have to google very hard to see the judge in the gun case allowed material from the laptop
even ABC america reporting as such
giuliani had a copy yes, but my understanding is the FBI got their copy direct from the repair shop
surely you can see certain forces need to keep this narrative going that the hard drive was corrupted and / or manipulated...
ie. politics aside, it's a massive saving face operation from the media intelligence services mega structure
dude, even hunter has never denied anything on that laptop is false...
if anything was corrupted / manipulated... there would have been a massive correction running media wide showing the manipulated files...
but there hasn't been
they just ignore it and wish it all away...
sypkan wrote:ah, nah, sorry adam...
I had it the wrong way around...
you don't have to google very hard to see the judge in the gun case allowed material from the laptop
even ABC america reporting as such
giuliani had a copy yes, but my understanding is the FBI got their copy direct from the repair shop
surely you can see certain forces need to keep this narrative going that the hard drive was corrupted and / or manipulated...
ie. politics aside, it's a massive saving face operation from the media intelligence services mega structure
dude, even hunter has never denied anything on that laptop is false...
if anything was corrupted / manipulated... there would have been a massive correction running media wide showing the manipulated files...
but there hasn't been
they just ignore it and wish it all away...
Not my recollection of it, I do remember looking into it. Remember details about data added and a legal opinion about it's admissibility.
Did follow the tax case a bit at the time, and the House Oversight Committee, didn't follow the gun case tbh.
Couldn't be fkd looking again.
Take your word for it.
Old news now anyway.
it is old news...
but it does confirm the legitimacy of the laptop
which is big news
smothered and ignored...
again...
"...Attorneys for Hunter Biden had previously attempted to preclude the laptop as evidence, arguing that they have "numerous reasons to believe the data had been altered and compromised before investigators obtained the electronic material."
But in his response on Wednesday, Weiss claimed that Biden "has not provided any evidence or information that shows that his laptop contains false information, and the government's evidence shows the opposite."
"Any argument that suggests his laptop is not authentic would be inappropriate because there is no foundation for such questioning, and it risks creating juror confusion about the evidence actually at issue in this case," Weiss wrote..."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-plans-infamous-laptop-evidence...
my purpose here isn't some game of gotcha...
I just think it is significant beyond significantly significant... that the laptop has been proven to be legitimate...
but once again... the record is never corrected...
it's just ignored
now just imagine if the roles were reversed...
Hey Pop. First chance i have had to respond. (jeez, and that is true. life too hectic.)
I trust your heart, mate.
And you and i are aligned in many ways.
Politics, broadly speaking, are not one of those ways.
Pity, too. But no death knell.
You raised assertations that we could both argue, back and forth, with merit on either side.
Say, as an example, whether or not the Inflation Reduction Act was good governance…
There is one exception i will gently make.
You want to credit Trump for not adding the the number of Supreme Court judges.
Well, if course he didn’t. He did not need to. He, in fact, created a need to. What he did do, with a lot of assistance, is rig that Court to a radical one that is now in need of reform. For the first time since 1869.
He Caused The Need For Reform.
He doest merit credit here, he merits disdain.
Now, again, as i have said here in Swellnetville,… i do not favor raising the census of the Court as a remedy or feature of reform.
It’s just too political for a body that was designed not to be.
That does not mean i don’t recognize the need for reform.
The twisting of facts to support Trump is the salient point here.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank