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So you think a dictator would improve things?
^^^
someone's been reading too much propaganda...
dictators... autocracies...
yeh nah...
(you might just be looking in all the wrong places)
when the guardian is pumping out stuff like this...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/13/kamala-har...
it's time kamala!
basement biden mk11 is getting old...
The Donald reckons the US voters won’t have to bother voting again , if he wins the Nov election, he’ll have it all fixed up. . I think that’s more than enough of an idle threat . And we’re still talking about 2022 .
Maybe we should google Project 2025 ,
MAGAs ideology for after they win the election, instead of focusing on what happened in 2022 .
Juliang wrote:The Donald reckons the US voters won’t have to bother voting again , if he wins the Nov election, he’ll have it all fixed up. . I think that’s more than enough of an idle threat . And we’re still talking about 2022 .
we went over this a week or two ago... but happy to chat as you are late to the party...
the context of the quote was about apathetic christian voters. telling them to get off their arse and vote in this very important election
after that they can go back to apathy... as...
"...The Donald reckons the US voters won’t have to bother voting again , if he wins the Nov election, he’ll have it all fixed up..."
ie. he'll fix stuff, and they won't need to bother next election
return to apathy...
don't believe me... watch the whole quote...
or do hysterical propaganda...
up to you
Juliang wrote:Maybe we should google Project 2025 ,
MAGAs ideology for after they win the election, instead of focusing on what happened in 2022 .
maybe we should...
I did...
project 2025 is a wish list from the far right - or traditional conservative wing - of the party...
if you were to read a wish list from the far left of the democrat party... I think you would find a just as fanciful list of wishes... just in an equal and opposite type direction...
it is not party policy
geez, even the perpetual hysterical anti-trumpers at the BBC concede this...
read this for yourself
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do.amp
All you need to do is see what he and his cronies say at their news conferences and interviews, what do you think never having to vote again means? And it is the policy of of vice president candidate JD Vance and his billionaire backer Peter Thiel
Sounds like you’re the one who hasn’t looked into it with your head in the sand .Why do you think all the MAGA s are going to the Dems , because they get what Project 2025 is and why Trump is unsuccessfully trying to distance himself from it , a bit hard , when Running mate JD Vance is one of the main architects of it!
Why are you looking at the BBC ? Why don’t you look at some hour old videos on YouTube and their 99 percent backing of Harris
@spykan You give me an opinion piece from the BBC from the 13 th of July , when I’ve just viewed 20 up to date opinion pieces from the US from yesterday the 14 th of August . Great point mate ?
As a really Old bloke , using the Internet , I feel a bit , Watched .
Almost a bit careful , with the some of the Things I say .
Humans are a Collective , but it's the Individual , who drives change and progress .
I didn't like some Doctors being Cancelled , 4 their views on Covid .
We need and HAVE 2 put Up , with Different views .
The UK has gone feral . at opposing views and are jailing people .
The US and Canada 2 .
Australia is Next !
Is Kamala . going to work , 4 people rights , or is it Trump ?
SN is NOT discussing HER policies , as She is anyone , but Trump !
Individual Freedom , is more important than Equality , always will B .
Trump is NOT advocating the END of Democracy , the opposite , Power 2 the US People .
Each and every one , of them .
Let's see if the US people are worried about Trump taking their Freedom , a Dictator lol ( The Job IS Leader of the Free World , 4 only 4 YEARS ) , or the Democrats .
Well I’m sure Trumps admiration for his dictator mates Kim Jong Un of North Korea, and Putin from Russia and the late great Hannibal Lecter must tell you something, ? Or do people just shrug their shoulders, and think that’s all very normal?
Juliang
As both those two blokes have Nukes , having talks with them IS , very normal .
Same with all European Leaders and China .
Gosh , Same with the ME .
Imagine Kamala , trying to Deal with them all .
They won't Understand her ffs , who Does ?
If U want someone 2 do something , don't fn bag them before negations .
Diplomacy 101 .
Kamala , a Lamb 2 slaughter , perhaps .
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Ok , so NOW the Left has a NEW Conspiracy theory lol .
Guessing Kamala and her Team are ALL over it 2 .
Trump Syndrome going ballistic .
And U guys believe it ALL .
@Pop down Well maybe if you took the time to look into it , you’d realise Trump and his Billionaire cronies, have worked out how to get rid of the US constitution . Project 2025 and have given us enough warnings that that’s what they want to do .
Relying on the fact that average Joe won’t understand it, or won’t quite believe it LOL
lol
Trump syndrome , has a new conspiracy theory .
Juliang , maybe let Kamala know about 2025 !
Joe and her , can get someone smart , like the 5 EYES , to look it Up and Understand , what Trump is Up 2 haha lol ffs .
They will love your Intel !
It could Win them , the Election .
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So it is Normal , to have a civil chat with Foes , did we at least , get that right ?
Probably the best thing a divided america can do is return full control to the states regarding lifestyles and values.
That way Americans can choose freely to live in an older values heritage style conservative state , or a more modern euro globalised views state.
Both sides agree on a federal defence network and the old Cold War mentality needs to go which surprisingly is persued hardest by the democrats.
I can’t see any other way they can settle down into normal life again without respecting each others views and getting on with running the country.
Respectful division between states is a solution….people can then live, educate, manufacture and build their state how they want and if people don’t like their states values or progress they can move to another.
I think Americans can be proud of their country as a nation but still divide it into core values states. It would be interesting to see who prospered the most.
Complete federal control over life’s values in the U.S. has to go…let the people choose freely and live their lives freely.
Anyway…just a thought.
They already have that optimist. And people are actually nowhere near as divided as these videos and media indicate.
I think U are on the right path Opti !
The USA has changed too much and is too divided .
Biden was so bad and most think Trump , much worse .
A Know Nothing , now looks Great ffs !
As a Group , their Values and therefore , their Empire , is on the Decline .
The People can and ARE moving to State's , that align with their views .
Have already stated , in think the US will split , into 3 Groups , all aligned on Major issues .
Many State's , found it terribly hard , 2 deal with Washington's views eg Immigration & Climate Change .
Harris and Walz'y , will be Much harder 2 deal with .
It will be a Shit fight , but things will work out 4 the better , in the long run .
Anyway , just a thought :) !
Good to know flollo….i think the states would like 100% power over their lifestyle choices though as a lot of decisions like education content etc etc are made for them federally it seems to me.
I see many Americans pining for the lives and prosperity they had….less govt and corporate control….focus on the family secure jobs etc. etc.
The heritage people want porn banned too which I think is a good idea or at least free porn should be so people need a credit card and need an account to access it which is another free choice thing again for adults…
A lot of messed up kids from it.
I like a lot of what the heritage people say but do believe strongly in freedom of choice even though i disagree strongly on lifestyle choices and some laws these days.
Well as long as we don’t put all our faith in a Kim Jong Un, Hannibal Lectur admirer ,which seems quite normal to some people?
Hey Juliang
U don't put ANY Faith , in your foes .
If U can negotiate with them , that's what I think , is normal .
I can't put , ALL my faith , in ANY Polly !!!
Not Trump , who I know and definitely not Harris , who doesn't even know herself .
Have U contacted Kamal yet , re 2025 ?
It's a BIG Call , that she would love 2 use lol !
Kamal did nothing , while Millions of people , poured through The Wall / Boarder .
Millions of Blue Voters , maybe lol .
Give HER another 4 years , to flood the Country with Blue Voters !
Guarantee herself , a Second Term .
@ Opti is hoping for a creationist believing/teaching block of states. Scary shit.
I think most people in the US know about 2025 already .that’s why they’re leaving The Republicans ,Maybe you should check out the Trump , Musk interview 2 days ago, and give us your opinion on that ramble ?
Optimist wrote:The heritage people want porn banned too which I think is a good idea or at least free porn should be so people need a credit card and need an account to access it which is another free choice thing again for adults…
A lot of messed up kids from it.
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They already have this, here's an example - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/utah-law-requiring-age-verificatio....
seeds wrote:@ Opti is hoping for a creationist believing/teaching block of states. Scary shit.
He's not the only one, there are extremists are out there. Unfortunately, there is also an extreme response from other side. And these noisy groups from both sides battle it out on social media while vast, normal majority sits in silence.
Hello Seeds
We don't have to worry about Blocks of States , going too religious , it's the US and everyone , almost , IS religious , even Kamala ( a guess :) , already .
I suggested the idea of the US , becoming 3 Blocks , 10 years maybe .
There IS a lot of scary shit , out there .
The US getting Over run , by a Bunch of Opti's , is NOT one of them .
The US love their families , mates , porn , drinking , gambling , working and sport and Stuff !
Hmmm….so you find the freedom to raise your children etc the way you want scary…..freedom is freedom….whichever path you take…..
…if you want the federal govt and the corporations to run you and your choices then you really have a problem.
Oh that’s right ….they already are.,..,some people are just trying to wind it back a bit….
And that’s all I’m gonna say bout that…..F.G.
“ And that’s all I’m gonna say bout that”
Thank goodness. You’ve already said enough.
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- 'The US state department announced Tuesday it's approved 20 billion dollars in arms sales to israel including scores of fighter jets and advanced air to air missiles'
& one certainty (whichever path you take) will be
..... "A lot of messed up kids from it."
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They just did a Big Deal with the Saudi's 2 , JF .
The current administration , is sure keeping their State Dept and Biden , busy .
They are stirring up trouble , or is it just 4 Export $ ?
U$$A
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Are really that stupid Jelly?
We have had two threads blow up and end up on back page around the whole Israel vs Hamas/Iran thing, but still you feel the need to post your anti Anti Israel, pro Islamic Republic of Iran & its proxies bullshit.????
FFS dude at least try to be a little subtle and just weave it into the conversation instead of posting a whole heap of propaganda videos.
Pop Down wrote:Juliang
As both those two blokes have Nukes , having talks with them IS , very normal .
Same with all European Leaders and China .
Gosh , Same with the ME .
Imagine Kamala , trying to Deal with them all .
They won't Understand her ffs , who Does ?
If U want someone 2 do something , don't fn bag them before negations .
Diplomacy 101 .
Kamala , a Lamb 2 slaughter , perhaps .
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Ok , so NOW the Left has a NEW Conspiracy theory lol .
Guessing Kamala and her Team are ALL over it 2 .
Trump Syndrome going ballistic .
And U guys believe it ALL .
Thats the real worry with Kamala world leaders will see her as very weak, China, Russia, Iran and its proxies., it been bad enough with Biden but it could be worse under Kamala
Trumps far from perfect but at least other world leaders see him as unpredictable and a leader the kind of dude that quite literally gets shot at and then gets up and pumps his fist in the air, they all would have respected how he handled that moment.
- "accuse the other side of that which you are guilty" ;)
- in the religion thread noinfo you actually hijacked it by posting israel / gaza stuff under the banner of 'religion' ;);)
... so calm down a bit ya gerbil
The above posts are relative to US weapons industry dependence and the immoral continued supply that continues to stoke war.
- if you are anti that then don't click, simple as that ;)
...thanks for your attempt at censorship
- and your continued valiant efforts at 'edumacating' all ;)
(Are really that stupid hahaha?)
'No matter how smart you are, you can always learn' ;);)
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- stwengf and powaaa ;)
...nothin su$$ haha
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&pp=ygUhdHJ1bXAgYXNzYXNzaW5hdGlvbiBhdHRlbXB0IGZ1bm55 Did I hear correctly that Trump is promising to get rid of the Federal Government of Edumaction?
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Trumps running mate JD Vance , is telling us that Hungarian autocratic dictator has “ made some smart decisions, “ and has some good ideas to add to his wish list.
Nothing to see here, everything’s normal , as usual.
Indo tells Jelly to be more subtle.
Pot meet kettle.
That ridiculous post in the Olymics thread was the height of subtlety hey mate.
Walks away whistling to himself.
Opti…. hey. (i skipped past a few posts to reply to you. Apologies to all if I cover covered ground.)
I like the slant ya got. I do. But it is a utopian vision that won’t wash. I wish i was wrong, mate.
As an example, what can a state economy do to protect/reimburse our folks who have experienced a natural calamity. Funding is Federal. Response is Federal.
As one example.
Other than that, go well, mate.
Pop Down wrote:Hello Seeds
We don't have to worry about Blocks of States , going too religious , it's the US and everyone , almost , IS religious , even Kamala ( a guess :) , already .
I suggested the idea of the US , becoming 3 Blocks , 10 years maybe .
There IS a lot of scary shit , out there .
The US getting Over run , by a Bunch of Opti's , is NOT one of them .
The US love their families , mates , porn , drinking , gambling , working and sport and Stuff !
(i’m not so sure that Porn hasn’t jumped up a spot. BUT! i work inns psych ward…. so…. bias affirmed.
mattlock wrote:Indo tells Jelly to be more subtle.
Pot meet kettle.
That ridiculous post in the Olymics thread was the height of subtlety hey mate.
That was long before the Religion thread got put on the back page after my Temple mount video triggered some and the thread went off the rails.
Maybe ive read things wrong?
But with the Religion thread being moved to the back page (and the original Israel/Hamas thread also being moved back there) the message i got from admin is if thats the subject we want to discuss or go to war over, then do it off the main page in one of the two relevant threads, otherwise we all need to pull our heads in a little and tread carefully.
Yeah sure its a topic in part also related to USA, but i would have thought if we are going to weave it into the USA topic then at least do it in a subtle way and keep it low key.
But thats not what Jelly has done he has thrown out a number of videos etc that are clearly just big baits, hoping they get chomped down clearly just wanting conflict which will only result in another thread going off the rails.
But hey i could be wrong, maybe Swellnet see things differently?
The ad ignorantiam fallacy?
- noinfo "could be wrong" hahaha (or just still governed by assumptions)
...surely that's not the usual domain of an eggspurt ;)
& "do it in a subtle way and keep it low key"
- go fark yaself u pretend moderator... as mattlock mentioned above in regard to your completely irrelevant olympic post, really, you're in absolutely no position to chime in about subtlety farkn hell hahaha
& this :"...clearly just wanting conflict" ;);)
..... maybe you've forgotten this other comment of yours :
- "i hope they use their nuclear arms and blow up the al aqsa mosque and also blow up the mosque in mecca." ;)
- if you've paid attention at all amongst the noinfo gerbil barrage of edumacation and facto finding bs that you've presented here, consisting of incessant calls for more conflict (especially along the lines of your penchant for eggspurt commentary on urban warfare haha) then it's obvious you are in denial of your silly and nonsensical 'military solutions' haha (which are ummm you clearly just wanting conflict).
...I've been repeatedly vocal about the necessity of less intervention and less escalation..... to lessen conflict.
- so project away all u want, try not to get it all mixed up..... again
...hypocrisy and ignorance are simple hallmarks of the gerbil effect ;)
The warmonger tries to plead his case (in good faith of course) by trying to call others out on 'wanting conflict' hahaha
- nothing ever changes ;)
..."accuse the other side of that which you are guilty" ;);)
Here is something low key for u :
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&pp=ygUHbG93IGtleQ%3D%3DAnd here, from an american perspective ;)
- subtle and informative
.....carry on ;);)
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"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty"....
"Israeli forces in Gaza ‘use civilians as human shields’ against possible booby-traps
Newspaper and campaign group allege Palestinians are sent ahead of troops into buildings or tunnels that need clearing"
Israeli soldiers are using Palestinian civilians as human shields in Gaza to enter and clear tunnels and buildings they suspect may have been booby-trapped, a leading Israeli NGO and newspaper have reported.
The practice was so widespread across different units fighting in Gaza that it could in effect be considered a “protocol”, said Nadav Weiman, the executive director of Breaking the Silence, a group founded by Israeli combat veterans to document military abuses.
The group has collected testimony describing the practice from veterans of the 10-month war in Gaza. The accounts they have heard match those reported in an investigation by the newspaper Haaretz, which claimed that the chief of staff’s office was aware of the practice.
“The senior ranks know about it,” one source said to have taken part in finding civilians to serve as human shields told the paper. “Our lives are more important than their lives,” Haaretz quoted commanders telling their soldiers.
The practice is said to be so routine that Israeli soldiers have a name for the human shields, who are referred to as shawish – informal slang for a low-ranking soldier – and the process was described by several witnesses.
Palestinian civilians, mostly young men, are picked up by Israeli soldiers, dressed in Israeli army uniforms, then sent into tunnels and damaged houses ahead of Israeli forces, soldiers told Haaretz and Breaking the Silence.
Their hands are tied together and a camera is attached to their bodies as they go in. “Palestinians are told: ‘Do one mission of … a [tunnel] shaft and you’re free,’” Haaretz quoted one soldier saying.
Afterwards, the men are reportedly released to join their families – underlining to the soldiers who spoke to Haaretz and Breaking the Silence that they were civilians who did not pose any military threat and had been detained only for the clearance operations.
Footage of Palestinian civilians, including some in IDF uniform, being sent into devastated buildings was obtained by Al Jazeera and broadcast in July.
Breaking the Silence said it had heard reports of civilians being used as human shields from the early stages of the war in Gaza. Initially it said it thought it had been one commander acting illegally, but testimony started coming in from soldiers stationed across the territory.
“We heard it from different units, fighting in different times and different places inside Gaza,” Weiman said. “Then we understood it’s something a lot more widespread – or even, I could say, a protocol – in the IDF.”
One soldier had been told Palestinian civilians were being used to replace the dog units that search for explosives “because too many dogs had died”, he added.
Many soldiers had raised concerns about a practice that is illegal under international and Israeli law, Weiman said.
In Israel in 2005, the supreme court banned using Palestinians as human shields in response to a petition against the military’s “neighbour procedure” in the West Bank, in which soldiers forced civilians to go ahead of them when raiding houses there.
Haaretz also reported heated arguments, including shouting, between soldiers and commanders ordering the use of human shields. “Most of them realised there was a problematic incident here, and it was hard for them to process,” one source said.
The IDF said that the use of human shields was banned, that orders had been “clarified” to troops on the ground, and that the allegations reported by Haaretz would be reviewed.
“The orders and directives of the IDF prohibit the use of Gazan civilians captured in the field for military missions that endanger them,” a spokesperson said.
The reports of the Israel Defense Forces using civilian human shields come after the Israeli military has repeatedly justified attacks on civilian targets, including schools and hospitals, by alleging Hamas uses them, and uses the people inside them as human shields.
“How we can say that kind of thing after we’re doing this, after we’re taking Palestinians as human shields?” Weiman said."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/14/israeli-forces-in-...
If it wasn't on indo's podcast's @adam12, you can guarantee it never actually, like, happened.
Yep indeed @adam12. Currently studying for a test and if i was to pinpoint the problem with military precision, i'd probably zone in on the mid section of the pre frontal cortex. Which leads me to conclude it can possibly be put it down to a possible pre frontal lobotomy in the past?
Would world leaders respect how Trump handled the Musk interview moment ?
At least Harris appears sane.
Juliang wrote:Would world leaders respect how Trump handled the Musk interview moment ?
At least Harris appears sane.
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