All Things Religion Thread

Wow that's heavy Optimist, I hope you reflect on that post. Talk about wildly and wrongly stereotyping. Also Brutus and saying homosexuals are anomalies..

These are people, exactly the same as you and me.

You can't change who you fall in love with, or who you're attracted to, and that's the beautiful thing about being human.

Love is love.

RK ever heard of religious vilification ?

Roadkill wrote:

Optimist wrote:

This all started with roadkill hassling Brutus and I with our view on homosexuality.
We weren’t into it and so the thought police all intervene twisting everything we say. Can’t you see where your heading in the future…everyone has to agree with you or else…just like the nazi party. I don’t care what you do with your sex lives or your friends, my personal belief is that it isn’t correct and that’s that …there is nothing to defend..it’s my free choice to think the way I want to think and my personal belief is to warn you that this exponentially growing behaviour in society is neither healthy nor will end well….God doesn’t like it full stop.
Consider your 18 year old son…he hasn’t been hanging with his old friends lately or surfing but hanging with a new real trendy crew. He had a few tough girlfriend relationships but is a good kid. He goes clubbing a lot with his new friends and his mother finds ecstasy tabs in his clothes when washing. He starts to not come home at night sleeping over with his new friends and one day announces out of the blue he’s gay and will be moving to the home of an older guy….you as parents have to digest what happened to you son….after a while he is diagnosed HIV and the battle begins. He drifts in and out of male relationships and is a shell of a man.
Just like the Greeks and romans before him he got bored with the norm and looked for the bizarre to entertain him….I love him very much….He’s my little brother…and I pray for him a lot.

Gawd..you really are fucked up in your head. What a stupid analogy to defend your views.

Nothing nastier than a christian trying to defend homophobia and bigotry.

brutus, when you condemn homosexuality, you condemn a fundamental part of a person's identity. In the case of young, particularly male, homosexuals coming to terms with their own identity is difficult enough without being exposed to the judgement that their nature is fundamentally sinful. They already have to deal with their fears about coming out to friends and family and the very real fear of being considered less manly and being the subject to taunts and abuse by the ignorant. In my understanding a sin has to be a conscious decision so what you asking people to do is to deny their strong sexual feelings for their entire life. I suppose you probably remember how strong sexual feelings are in young men. I am not a christian but I accept that Christ's teachings, what he actually said, not what others added later, is probably the best guide to conduct that we have. Where in any of the gospels does Christ target a single identifiable group group as being inherently sinful? I have read them all in the past and nothing comes to mind. The philosophy western culture inherited from him was the belief in love and forgiveness. You are entitled to believe what you like about homosexuality and live your life in accordance with that view. You, in my opinion, are not entitled to make public statements that homosexuality is sinful. "Judge not that you not be judged" isn't that in there somewhere?

That's not vilification, that's questioning someone's ridiculous and irrational thoughts

Optimist, that's one of the ugliest things I've ever read on Swellnet.
Someone is a shell of a man because he's gay?
I'd pay good money to see you say that to mates of mine.

brutus wrote:

RK ever heard of religious vilification ?

Roadkill wrote:

Optimist wrote:

This all started with roadkill hassling Brutus and I with our view on homosexuality.
We weren’t into it and so the thought police all intervene twisting everything we say. Can’t you see where your heading in the future…everyone has to agree with you or else…just like the nazi party. I don’t care what you do with your sex lives or your friends, my personal belief is that it isn’t correct and that’s that …there is nothing to defend..it’s my free choice to think the way I want to think and my personal belief is to warn you that this exponentially growing behaviour in society is neither healthy nor will end well….God doesn’t like it full stop.
Consider your 18 year old son…he hasn’t been hanging with his old friends lately or surfing but hanging with a new real trendy crew. He had a few tough girlfriend relationships but is a good kid. He goes clubbing a lot with his new friends and his mother finds ecstasy tabs in his clothes when washing. He starts to not come home at night sleeping over with his new friends and one day announces out of the blue he’s gay and will be moving to the home of an older guy….you as parents have to digest what happened to you son….after a while he is diagnosed HIV and the battle begins. He drifts in and out of male relationships and is a shell of a man.
Just like the Greeks and romans before him he got bored with the norm and looked for the bizarre to entertain him….I love him very much….He’s my little brother…and I pray for him a lot.

Gawd..you really are fucked up in your head. What a stupid analogy to defend your views.

Nothing nastier than a christian trying to defend homophobia and bigotry.

I have.

Have you heard of homosexual vilification?

Craig wrote:

Wow that's heavy Optimist, I hope you reflect on that post. Talk about wildly and wrongly stereotyping. Also Brutus and saying homosexuals are anomalies..

These are people, exactly the same as you and me.

You can't change who you fall in love with, or who you're attracted to, and that's the beautiful thing about being human.

Love is love.

Didn't even look into this thread until I saw your comment on the homepage. Now, reading about this 'anomaly of nature' business got my blood boiling. It's like calling someone who is very tall or very short an 'anomaly'. Absolutely disgraceful.

Before anyone asks, I'm gonna leave Optimist's comments up.

I'm hoping everyone can see how ill-informed and undeserving of attention they are.

EDIT: He's been commenting for a few years, so kinda hoping everyone's attuned to his idiocy.

I notice both bigots are pulling the victim card....ironic really.

Craig wrote:

Wow that's heavy Optimist, I hope you reflect on that post. Talk about wildly and wrongly stereotyping. Also Brutus and saying homosexuals are anomalies..

These are people, exactly the same as you and me.

You can't change who you fall in love with, or who you're attracted to, and that's the beautiful thing about being human.

Love is love.

Perfect words, Craig.

No one can control who they love.

Opti's repressed homosexuality is revealing itself more & more.

It's okay buddy, it's perfectly natural to get excited when you're kneeling in front of Hey Zeus and his skimpy loin cloth. He's a strapping young lad after all.

We think nothing less of you.
*thumbs up*

stunet wrote:

Before anyone asks, I'm gonna leave Optimist's comments up.

I'm hoping everyone can see how ill-informed and undeserving of attention they are.

EDIT: He's been commenting for a few years, so kinda hoping everyone's attuned to his idiocy.

Good. Its important people see the ridiculousness of this Christian law. it shouldn't be censored. For anyone contemplating Jesus, Muhammad, God/s, Buddha and all the other funny make believe deities as their saviour they can reflect on this statement and see how silly it is.

Reflect on this viewpoint also when considering the faithful who sit in our parliament.
pretty shit isnt it.

stunet wrote:

Before anyone asks, I'm gonna leave Optimist's comments up.

I'm hoping everyone can see how ill-informed and undeserving of attention they are.

EDIT: He's been commenting for a few years, so kinda hoping everyone's attuned to his idiocy.

You could attribute his comments to some parliamentarians so it would actually be doing everyone a service by leaving them up so they might reflect on the mentality of some of the people running the country

My brother is not a shell of a man because he’s gay you idiots..it’s because he has had full blown aids for nearly 40 years and survived. ….and unlike you guys , he respects my views and I his free choices ….we see each other regularly as well at mums. We get on well and agree to disagree…so go get stuffed.

Ok so you think your brother became gay from his bad choices and hanging with the wrong crew?

BB where did I say being gay was sinful ?? Please show me if not you are a liar !!

I said gay people are different to straight people , because by having the same gender partner you cannot procreate..
.I know you won't accept that I have lived my life with Gay people , and have accepted them , worked with them supported them ( ask all the girls on the pro tour in the early days , who helped them?)........

Because you want to tear down Christianity , rubbish Optimist because of his brothers story.....what a hateful person you are!

blindboy wrote:

brutus, when you condemn homosexuality, you condemn a fundamental part of a person's identity. In the case of young, particularly male, homosexuals coming to terms with their own identity is difficult enough without being exposed to the judgement that their nature is fundamentally sinful. They already have to deal with their fears about coming out to friends and family and the very real fear of being considered less manly and being the subject to taunts and abuse by the ignorant. In my understanding a sin has to be a conscious decision so what you asking people to do is to deny their strong sexual feelings for their entire life. I suppose you probably remember how strong sexual feelings are in young men. I am not a christian but I accept that Christ's teachings, what he actually said, not what others added later, is probably the best guide to conduct that we have. Where in any of the gospels does Christ target a single identifiable group group as being inherently sinful? I have read them all in the past and nothing comes to mind. The philosophy western culture inherited from him was the belief in love and forgiveness. You are entitled to believe what you like about homosexuality and live your life in accordance with that view. You, in my opinion, are not entitled to make public statements that homosexuality is sinful. "Judge not that you not be judged" isn't that in there somewhere?

Patrick wrote:

Opti's repressed homosexuality is revealing itself more & more.

It's okay buddy, it's perfectly natural to get excited when you're kneeling in front of Hey Zeus and his skimpy loin cloth. He's a strapping young lad after all.

We think nothing less of you.

*thumbs up*

he was talking from first hand experience ...his brother was the 18 yr old.....so your answer is way out of line!

AndyM wrote:

That's not vilification, that's questioning someone's ridiculous and irrational thoughts

Optimist, that's one of the ugliest things I've ever read on Swellnet.
Someone is a shell of a man because he's gay?
I'd pay good money to see you say that to mates of mine.

OK so the story was a personal one about his brother.....the responses he has got are just so nasty....he comes here opens up and then the nutters just crucify him as ....?????......what an ugly bunch of people.....worse than any homophobic comments!

stunet wrote:

Before anyone asks, I'm gonna leave Optimist's comments up.

I'm hoping everyone can see how ill-informed and undeserving of attention they are.

EDIT: He's been commenting for a few years, so kinda hoping everyone's attuned to his idiocy.

so Stu....Optimist comes on here with a personal story...and he gets persecuted by you as ill-informed and idiocy......I mean really......take them down please as the reaction to the story of his brother has shown me a new low in how SN treats people who are at odds with your secular views.......FFS .....the harm you people do in the name of your secular world....?????

A few hundred years ago the Christians would have demanded you respect their religious right to burn witches.

seeds wrote:

Ok so you think your brother became gay from his bad choices and hanging with the wrong crew?

I doubt we will see optimist again, after the vile comments he received about his story and his brother......
Some of the comments and inferences that have been made about him are horrific.......but that just shows you the level of some of the secular people here......

Sorry Brutus, when you read this by Optimist, his homophobia and bigotry are absolutely clear -

" Consider your 18 year old son…he hasn’t been hanging with his old friends lately or surfing but hanging with a new real trendy crew. He had a few tough girlfriend relationships but is a good kid. He goes clubbing a lot with his new friends and his mother finds ecstasy tabs in his clothes when washing. He starts to not come home at night sleeping over with his new friends and one day announces out of the blue he’s gay and will be moving to the home of an older guy….you as parents have to digest what happened to you son….after a while he is diagnosed HIV and the battle begins. He drifts in and out of male relationships and is a shell of a man."

And using this to try to score points is shit.

Optimist made an analogy..he did not say anything to indicate it was personal. Walking it back now is too late.

The response was warranted for the analigy made. You want to present something as fact or from personal experiences...you clarify at the time.

After being held to account....it then becomes a personal story. Gimme a break..you can't play victim when you get called out.

"BB where did I say being gay was sinful ?? Please show me if not you are a liar !!"

“As Christians we follow the law..........it's so evident you want to troll me into saying ...homosexuality is bad as is gay marriage.........it's easy for me to say ...homosexuality is abnormal as is gay marriage……”

“It is clear in the Bible that homosexuality is abnormal and marriage under Christian/Biblical principles therefore is not permitted”

Near enough for me. Do you really want to go into semantics to defend yourself? Or deny that it was your god's law you were talking about?

Blowin wrote:

A few hundred years ago the Christians would have demanded you respect their religious right to burn witches.

that hasn't gone away. African Christians still hunt down and kill women and kids suspected of sorcery or witchcraft. The Pentecost (Hi Scomo) influence has increased the belief that witches are real and should be killed.

Matthew 37-40

37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

If you accept the premise of the first commandment you therefore accept the second...

BB so as usual you put words in my mouth , I did not say sinful ...so you lied!

That's enough BB ......you are just too naïve and seem fixated on trying to make others come around to your point of view which is really shallow and pretty low level when you can't /won't answer questions as I have done for you , it's all a one way street.........good luck with your Buddhism LOL.....

blindboy wrote:

"BB where did I say being gay was sinful ?? Please show me if not you are a liar !!"

“As Christians we follow the law..........it's so evident you want to troll me into saying ...homosexuality is bad as is gay marriage.........it's easy for me to say ...homosexuality is abnormal as is gay marriage……”

“It is clear in the Bible that homosexuality is abnormal and marriage under Christian/Biblical principles therefore is not permitted”

Near enough for me. Do you really want to go into semantics to defend yourself? Or deny that it was your god's law you were talking about?

AndyM wrote:

Sorry Brutus, when you read this by Optimist, his homophobia and bigotry are absolutely clear -

" Consider your 18 year old son…he hasn’t been hanging with his old friends lately or surfing but hanging with a new real trendy crew. He had a few tough girlfriend relationships but is a good kid. He goes clubbing a lot with his new friends and his mother finds ecstasy tabs in his clothes when washing. He starts to not come home at night sleeping over with his new friends and one day announces out of the blue he’s gay and will be moving to the home of an older guy….you as parents have to digest what happened to you son….after a while he is diagnosed HIV and the battle begins. He drifts in and out of male relationships and is a shell of a man."

And using this to try to score points is shit.

Optimist took a risk in telling a personal story , he probably has more experience than all of you having a Gay brother and he has lived the story for 40 years........
I mean where did all the nastiness come from towards Optimist....is he really such a hated guy on SN?

It is totally unremarkable conservative christians or strict followers of any other major religion would express the above views about homosexuality. To be fair as an unpalatable I find their views they are being true to their faith, a faith that requires them to submit themselves fully to their god and his word as it presents itself via modern day sermons, literature and gospel study. Faith requiring unquestionable devotion and, on issues such as homosexuality, the suspension of what others in a sectarian society would reasonably deem clear rationale thought.

I have said before I try to respect people with religious or spiritual faith and especially so when it is practiced humbly and respectfully in private between the self and the god. I have also said I have great trouble with this notion of a one true christian god which is often repeated here as to believe that denies some much what is good about humankind and its cultural and spiritual history. To say there is one true christian god in private is an act of devotion but repeat it constantly here is preaching all missionary like and understandably attracts the ridicule it deserves.

But my real issue with conservative christian religions is not with its followers so much but the leaders and the organisations themselves and their steady encroachment into political life here and elsewhere. Issues like homosexuality, abortion, school curriculum and stacking courts with the ultra conservative which impact civil and sectarian societies in pervasive ways for years/decades are the new daily battlegrounds for christian conservatives. What is playing out in the US and here in Australia should be a concern for anyone in favour of a fair and equable society.

brutus, to avoid further misunderstandings please state your view as to whether or not homosexuality breaches god's law, which I took as a clear inference from your previous posts.
Option 1. Does. Option 2. Doesn't

Optimist. Real world story with no a slide into misery, drugs and HIV....

Religious relative of mine (but a thinker who has not lost his brain to dogma) announces he accepts people may have homosexual leanings but as long as they do not act on them it is okay and not a sin.

Grandson grows up a very intelligent lad, takes a high paying job post university, moves interstate and then comes out as gay. Has a nice boyfriend and the travel photos of them in Europe just beam happiness. A happy couple making a life together.

Religious relative is forced to think deeper and accepts the situation and even the reality of male to male sex. His relationship with his grandson remains strong.

Seems a good outcome for all

Hardly an obomination.

Would an all loving God care about the chosen method of their horizontal folk dancing?

Nah Brutus, don't buy it. He's an entity on the internet, maybe his story is true, maybe it isn't, but my response - and my responsibility to Swellnet and our readers - is that his views are at odds with modern society.

In the name of free speech I left it up there, and by the same principle I'll call him a narrow-minded idiot.

quote=frog]

"This can't be happening!" you scream. Your nostrils are filling with the awful stench of burning souls. Your face ignites from the heat. Flames are now blazing from your eyes, nostrils, ears, mouth — every opening in your body, flames are roaring out. Your body is sizzling and crackling from the flames.
Your body is now madly thrashing and convulsing from the horrible pain. "Why don't I die?", you scream. You begin weeping and gnashing your teeth with the millions. "When will this pain stop?" But you know it will never stop. . ."

This literal fire and brimstone conception of Hell should be widely propagated anew, as stimulus to propel the reintroduction of paid indulgences. We need to leverage Hell.

The church would retain a small percentage of the takings for these paid indulgences - an administration fee - with the remainder mandated to the community in the form of funds linked to the construction of public works.
 
For example, indulgences could pay for a proper, extensive, intersecting train network in Melbourne. In South America and Africa where Christianity is booming, indulgences could pay for better schools and hospitals and environmental rehabilitation.
 
Principal target demographic would be the neo-liberals who’ve exploited the earth and the poor to reap their billions, and, as they age, might occasionally have their sleep disturbed by a nasty little voice that whispers, what if? After all, can’t take it with ya. No more of their tax dodging power perpetuating foundations. Get ‘em to pay up big for their way in. 
 
Churches would nevertheless be encouraged to be agile and inventive in the awarding of indulgences. No end to what we could get done.  Like this: “The "Butter Tower" of Rouen Cathedral earned its nickname because the money to build it was raised by the sale of indulgences allowing the use of butter during Lent.”
 
Brilliant! That’s the kind of Middle Ages 360o thinking needed to move the needle in the present post plague environment.
 

@Brutus
"Optimist took a risk in telling a personal story , he probably has more experience than all of you having a Gay brother and he has lived the story for 40 years........
I mean where did all the nastiness come from towards Optimist....is he really such a hated guy on SN?"

Does he have more "experience" than me in the gay scene?
I highly doubt it - the fella doesn't like gays and actively avoids them (except maybe at family dinners).
If he's been chased down the street of small regional towns by whole football teams on suspicion of being gay, and has subsequently been locked up for his own safety, then we can talk.

Painting Optimist as the victim is bullshit - I feel for his brother.

Well there's an experience we share Andy. I got chased through Brookvale by the Manly Rugby League reserves and ended up taking a kicking......for having long hair and looking like a poofter. I was 15.

How good is/was Straya?

Being questioned and ridiculed in dozens of regional towns, suburban pubs, minesites and fishing boats around Australia.
Not to mentioned being threatened many times and chased once or twice.

And for little more than being clean cut and using words of more than two syllables.

And this doesn't even touch on being suspected of being an undercover cop for the same reasons.

Can't recall having has that anywhere else in the world.
Times are changing but you don't have to look too deep to find that same mentality here in Oz.

Empathy to you BB.
And people wonder why we get "nasty".
Idiots don't know what nasty is.
Actually they probably do.

I can’t see the big deal really. I reckon optimist and Brutus are alright based on pages of their comments. Yeah sure I think their beliefs are wack, hurtful and may contribute to harm. But that’s life. I’m sure some of my views on say I don’t know,real estate scum are hurtful too.

My Interpretation of their comments is of acceptance and kindness as well eternal damnation. The fact so many have responded as they have shows any impressionable kid that yeah whatevs - some very small minority of people don’t like what you do.
So yeah call them out on it but whats with the outrage? I’m sure everybody has a relative homophobe. But we love em. Laugh with them. Listen to them. Well I do. Would you have them silenced? Have you not learnt from them?

I wonder how many here would be so vehemently opposed if a Muslim, Jew, or a Buddhist expressed the same view.

I can relate to the fishing boats thing AndyM.
Never turn up clean shaven or wearing something that's been washed in the last month. I'd rock up to the wharf on my day off in clean attire after a Dad and Dave and everyone thinks your'e going to court.
Oh and using more than 2 syllables , spot on there.
Having said that it was just friendly banter and I didn't get bullied , nor would I let anyone else try to pick on someone they thought was weaker without calling them out in no uncertain terms.
As for the undercover cop part , only when I tried to score a bit of weed at an unfamiliar pub.

bonza wrote:

I can’t see the big deal really. I reckon optimist and Brutus are alright based on pages of their comments. Yeah sure I think their beliefs are wack, hurtful and may contribute to harm. But that’s life. I’m sure some of my views on say I don’t know,real estate scum are hurtful too.

My Interpretation of their comments is of acceptance and kindness as well eternal damnation. The fact so many have responded as they have shows any impressionable kid that yeah whatevs - some very small minority of people don’t like what you do.
So yeah call them out on it but whats with the outrage? I’m sure everybody has a relative homophobe. But we love em. Laugh with them. Listen to them. Well I do. Would you have them silenced? Have you not learnt from them?

I wonder how many here would be so vehemently opposed if a Muslim, Jew, or a Buddhist expressed the same view.

100% equal opportunity call out.
Muslim, Jew, Buddhist..can expect the same response. Hate is hate, irrespective of what mouth/brain it comes from

Yeah cool. I didn’t see their comments as hate. I saw it as pity and Christian love. And, I disagree with it, think it’s ridiculous, and sad. But i don’t see any hate.

I guess my interpretation is different to yours.

bonza wrote:

Yeah cool. I didn’t see their comments as hate. I saw it as pity and Christian love. And, I disagree with it, think it’s ridiculous, and sad. But i don’t see any hate.

I guess my interpretation is different to yours.

Christian love, as you see it, is responsible for many people taking
their own lives.

I have dozens of gay friends. In my view Optimist when your brother agrees to disagree he is just being the bigger man. The hurt is real and life altering from what I’ve witnessed. One strength they draw on is they know they know they are okay and the ones that don’t accept them are the sick ones

Roadkill wrote:

bonza wrote:

Yeah cool. I didn’t see their comments as hate. I saw it as pity and Christian love. And, I disagree with it, think it’s ridiculous, and sad. But i don’t see any hate.

I guess my interpretation is different to yours.

Christian love, as you see it, is responsible for many people taking
their own lives.

100% agree

stunet wrote:

Nah Brutus, don't buy it. He's an entity on the internet, maybe his story is true, maybe it isn't, but my response - and my responsibility to Swellnet and our readers - is that his views are at odds with modern society.

In the name of free speech I left it up there, and by the same principle I'll call him a narrow-minded idiot.

Stu I'll leave you all on this subject , the name calling /insults and lack of any real knowledge on the subject of the history of the Bible and how the Bible created the soul of Western civilization, is really showing........

all because we live in a modern society .......what a cop out......so then you can call someone an idiot ......because it's modern to do so !!!!!

Society has always been modern , for the people living in the present ....and to use it as a crutch to support an argument , well shows a lack of maturity in understanding history that is the foundation of who we are today !

@Brutus. I wrote the following before you posted the above, but I ask you pay attention to it.

To back things up just a little bit, the view that was promoted here yesterday...to wit, that homosexuality is all a put on, that it's not natural, and they 'choose' that path, pushes us into a area of free speech that I'm not comfortable with.

No, it ain't hate speech, and yes, it's legal to hold that view, but it's teetering on the edge of the precipice and I don't want to spend all day watching this thread just in case it tips over into something ugly.

If you hold these views, I'll politely ask you to keep them to yourself.

blindboy wrote:

Well there's an experience we share Andy. I got chased through Brookvale by the Manly Rugby League reserves and ended up taking a kicking......for having long hair and looking like a poofter. I was 15.

BB , poofter , now there's a modern day description that you could be proud of BB........gender vilification .....so I will leave you on this subject as you don't have the knowledge or empathy to discuss......do you always call gay people poofters......is that just males , do you call gay women Dykes?

yes herr Stu......but Poofter is OK, is Dyke OK also......

stunet wrote:

@Brutus. I wrote the following before you posted the above, but I ask you pay attention to it.

To back things up just a little bit, the view that was promoted here yesterday...to wit, that homosexuality is all a put on, that it's not natural, and they 'choose' that path, pushes us into a area of free speech that I'm not comfortable with.

No, it ain't hate speech, and yes, it's legal to hold that view, but it's teetering on the edge of the precipice and I don't want to spend all day watching this thread just in case it tips over into something ugly.

If you hold these views, I'll politely ask you to keep them to yourself.

brutus that is what they called me as they were kicking the shit out of me so I think it's use in context was legitimate. What about answering my question? Do you believe that homosexuality breaches god's law?

oh so it's still OK to use poofter ?

No Homsexuality doesn't breach Gods law !

Now how about the answer to my question about your Buddhist wife's beliefs and Buddhism.

So let me get this right ..reincarnation was a Hindu idea adopted by Buddha , so that if you are a good person you will get reborn as one of the following ...
1) Heavenly realm or God realm ( Deva)
2) Demi-God realm (Asura)
3) Human Realm
4) Animal realm
5) 5 Hungry ghost realm
6) Hell realm
So these 6 realms are what govern your life...?
https://www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Dalai-Lama-Speaks-on-Gay-Sex-He-says-it-...
Just wondering how you support Buddhism??

blindboy wrote:

brutus that is what they called me as they were kicking the shit out of me so I think it's use in context was legitimate. What about answering my question? Do you believe that homosexuality breaches god's law?

Not a word I'd choose to use though was obviously used in context - i.e as it was directed at him.

Reckon John Cleese summed it up best:

“If you put nonsense words into the mouth of someone you want to make fun of, you’re not broadcasting their views, you’re making fun of them. The major was an old fossil left over from decades before. We were not supporting his views, we were making fun of them. If they can’t see that – if people are too stupid to see that – what can one say?”