COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Supafreak wrote:Qantas made the decision to only allow fully vaccinated ( 2 doses ) unless you had an exemption before governments had mentioned it . So Qantas can decide if , unless “you’re up to date “ you can’t board the flight. What other countries require doesn’t really count, it’s what Alan Joyce decides. I’m guessing the government doesn’t want to be seen as making it mandatory and will simply let business be the bad guys.
Alan Joyce is another government puppet.
That’s what happens when you’re stomach is full of government funding
Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Probably.
so you think its ok for tourists coming in only need 2 whacks but Aussies need 3 to leave?
Aussies leaving require the amount of shots required to enter any country. That is the decision of the destination.
please answer the question
Nine News:
"Mr Hunt said the Australian government has secured more than 151 million booster doses – enough for nearly six injections for every man, woman and child in the country – for “delivery over the coming year and is well placed to continue to achieve world leading vaccination rates against Covid-19”.
Sounds like that is BOOSTERS only.
When is enough, enough?
aaron61 wrote:Nine News:
"Mr Hunt said the Australian government has secured more than 151 million booster doses – enough for nearly six injections for every man, woman and child in the country – for “delivery over the coming year and is well placed to continue to achieve world leading vaccination rates against Covid-19”.
Sounds like that is BOOSTERS only.
When is enough, enough?
Then they play everyone like puppets at the press conference saying “your third” is so important for your protection all while knowing they have purchased all these.
Get off the train people.
Regarding the tourist thing - it's been left upto the states to decide. My guess is that it will be based on things like - well, we need people to pick fruit etc. so "up to date" might be 2 jabs of something "approved" whereas say a tourist travelling on holiday might be required to have had a jab in the last 6 months - that can be enforced by each state (well, the businesses mostly in each state) using their QR code thing. The thing is, most tourists will comply if they really want to come all this way - there are other countries to visit in the meantime.
QLD CHO: “The virus is not going to go away, it will continue to circulate. And if you have not been vaccinated it will find you eventually — if it hasn’t found you yet, it will ... the unvaccinated will always be sicker than the vaccinated.”
Thats actually not true.
monkeyboy wrote:QLD CHO: “The virus is not going to go away, it will continue to circulate. And if you have not been vaccinated it will find you eventually — if it hasn’t found you yet, it will ... the unvaccinated will always be sicker than the vaccinated.”
Thats actually not true.
This bloke was second choice for a reason.
I'll back myself against a triple vaxxed geriatric with Parkinson's.
monkeyboy wrote:QLD CHO: “The virus is not going to go away, it will continue to circulate. And if you have not been vaccinated it will find you eventually — if it hasn’t found you yet, it will ... the unvaccinated will always be sicker than the vaccinated.”
Thats actually not true.
The only good thing is this peanut slips up sometimes and says the truth much to the overlord palachooks disgust.
You can also tell when he’s lying through his teeth with his body language.
I reckon this change in terminology by ATAGI is the beginning of the end.
The change makes it more inline with other vaccinations.
It's a sign covid will begin to be treated more endemic, and less of a novel threat.
No national mandating of third shot. Some states may do it, but can't see it sticking around much longer relatively (think months, not years).
Check in and vaccination certificates now needing a complete refresh to be updated to suit the terminology.
shortenism wrote:Yep 1,2,3.... 4. 5 even.. Who knows. But we know they contracted enough juice for at least 10 shots per person in Oz. The missus and 2 other mums left this AM for Canberra in a convoy of several other cars largely dominated by women I gotta say. The divine feminine spirit standing up. Sounds like crew going from everywhere.. Requesting the Governor General to dissolve the Govt. Be interesting if it even gets a mention on the mainstream media. But like Trudeau, its coming for em one way or another and they know it.
Dissolve parliament due to the whims of a fringe group?
What sort of society do you think we live in? Might be time for you and your missus to get off the fear train, and understand we have a functioning democracy and an extremely privileged position in this world.
Crew like Dictator Dan will buckle to the screams that his vaccine mandates discriminate against poor visiting Africans and are therefore racist.
Stok wrote:shortenism wrote:Yep 1,2,3.... 4. 5 even.. Who knows. But we know they contracted enough juice for at least 10 shots per person in Oz. The missus and 2 other mums left this AM for Canberra in a convoy of several other cars largely dominated by women I gotta say. The divine feminine spirit standing up. Sounds like crew going from everywhere.. Requesting the Governor General to dissolve the Govt. Be interesting if it even gets a mention on the mainstream media. But like Trudeau, its coming for em one way or another and they know it.
Dissolve parliament due to the whims of a fringe group?
What sort of society do you think we live in? Might be time for you and your missus to get off the fear train, and understand we have a functioning democracy and an extremely privileged position in this world.
Well, our political class enacted draconian authoritarianism whilst playing to a vocal fringe group of bed wetters who demanded that healthy young people need coerced into being injected with a vaccine which serves them no statistically significant improvement in health outcomes against covid and does nothing to stem the spread of the virus.
It’s not like they don’t have form in pandering to shouty minorities.
The real Donald Trump wrote:bluediamond wrote:Turns out the revolution, will, be televised.
So Trudeau called in the tow trucks to tow away the protest trucks and the tow trucks joined the protests.
Then he banned jerry cans for people bringing fuel for truckers, so protesters all started carrying jerry cans and the cops now run around confiscating empty jerry cans.
Then he banned honking horns in support of truckers, so the cops are out arresting granpas for honking horns.
Now Ottawa cops are just calling in sick, taking leave or simply quitting the force for good.
When the covoy rolled into town, Trudeau ran and hid after a sudden covid exposure .
When taken to task in parliament, booed and heckled, he walked out and ran and hid again.
GOFUNDME rebranded itself GOFUCKME and relegated itself to the scrap heap of history after trying to confiscate truckers support donations.
Meanwhile, the UK will ditch the whole covid shit show next month and the rest of the world will follow or be left looking like complete dick wads / stok & Co.
Yes mate. It was a beautiful thing to watch.
People are coming together. It seemed that love was the overwhelming feeling amongst all the various people from every walk of life.
There was no stereotypical person. Just everyone from everywhere making a stand and saying enough. It has to end. We want our freedom back. They are standing up for exactly the same things we've lost here.
The trucks are the nuts and bolts of the movement. With them taking up the city streets, the city stops. It allows the people to come out and make a stand. When Melbourne protested, they had to go home after each Saturday. That's not happening in Ottawa.
There's an absolute distrust of media for their blatant lying in the reporting of the event. And there's a true contempt for Trudeau.
Honestly folks, if you people still chirping on about needing to get more boosters...jabs being a neccessity...you're either working for the government, or you have serious mental illness and delusions. The time is up to let it go.
It's going to get harder and harder to avoid seeing the truth for what it is. We've been lied to all along. The governments are all back pedalling (have a look at how Austria dropped all restrictions as soon as the constitutional court asked questions), and yes, West Australia looks like the last place on planet earth that is going to let go of it's undying love of the covid narrative. Fuks sake!! haha
Blowin wrote:Well, our political class enacted draconian authoritarianism whilst playing to a vocal fringe group of bed wetters who demanded that healthy young people need coerced into being injected with a vaccine which serves them no statistically significant improvement in health outcomes against covid and does nothing to stem the spread of the virus.
It’s not like they don’t have form in pandering to shouty minorities.
How would you have preferred they react?
By doing nothing?
By calling a referendum?
Whilst the enactment of emergency powers wasn't a comfortable experience to have lived through, as we generally live pretty cushy, safe lives here - they're needed. Pandemic's are disasters, and we're now on the way out, after 2 years. 2 years is a very, very short time in the scheme of things.
You're just continuing to be the whinging voice, because you didn't get your way.
p.s. the fact you lump this as a 'political class' vs the rest of us is hilarious! You must literally live in a cave, with your only connection to the outside world being via Tucker Carlson.
This change in terminology and now the vaccine status being considered up to date after a booster is possibly a political masterstroke by scomo. He's saying the federal LNP won't mandate boosters but the states still can.
He's now dangling the vaccine booster mandate carrot right in front of the dictator Labor states.
I think one of the biggest impediments to the federal Labor party's campaign is the Labor states buckling to this temptation and mandating boosters.
I think the federal Labor party will need to get some control over the dictator states on this one and keep them reigned in.
bluediamond wrote:People are coming together. It seemed that love was the overwhelming feeling amongst all the various people from every walk of life.
I dunno BD, not sure I've felt much love come from your posts in the past!
So long as you don't work for the government stok, the love is there.
Just a follow up to a friend of mine's mum who was having seizures after getting the whack a few months ago
Today she's joining the convoy to canberra. My friend posted a video of her and a transcript of her battle with health since jab. She still gets constant seizures, can't control them, medication has made a minor difference. Every health issue she's ever had has also resurfaced and she's a shell of the woman she was before the poison was put into her.
As she stated in her messaging, this is 'crimes against humanity'.
Anybody vehemently pushing for the choice to be taken away from people and allowing this to happen, by bully and coersion, including several posters on here, should be held accountable.
Off the fear train ya reckon Stok. Nah mate, if we were on the fear train we would be up to our 3rd booster by now.
It will stop when people like you Stok say enough is enough.
Don’t get that booster mate, and don’t support it.
It’s beyond clear that you don’t need it.
@Burlsa I already had my booster weeks ago. It was like running a small errand. Now there's less chance of me being a burden on the healthcare system, or, less chance of making life harder for my family (as I've heard plenty of accounts from people my age that had Omicron, of it making them bedridden for a numbers of days - not ideal when you have little ones who just spend all day tearing around the house/park/beach).
@shortensim:
Option 1 - get vaccinated, takes fuck all time and is recommended by experts worldwide.
Option 2 - join a cultish group of cooked units, try to overthrow one of the most stable democracies in the world and follow the belief that big pharma and the gov are trying to control you.
Which one sounds more riddled with fear?
@BD
How was your friend who had the stroke? Is she better yet?
Stok wrote:@Burlsa I already had my booster weeks ago. It was like running a small errand. Now there's less chance of me being a burden on the healthcare system, or, less chance of making life harder for my family (as I've heard plenty of accounts from people my age that had Omicron, of it making them bedridden for a numbers of days - not ideal when you have little ones who just spend all day tearing around the house/park/beach).
You're kidding right? A small errand that plays right into the hands of your horrible Dictator Dan.
You were never going to be a burden on the health care system, you eat well and are not old.
If you were over 60, then sure i understand your fear. I went to my dads house the other day and they had ABC news on all day, then he jumps on his ipad to check news.com.au. He's completely brainwashed and addicted to the fear.
He also has heart disease and was eating bacon & eggs at the same time as watching this shit. Not once did the news mention a healthy lifestyle that i heard.
What i realised is he is the everyday Aussie, this is what they fucking do. It's a cult and by you saying that you could be a burden on the system encourages this shit behaviour.
Yeah, Omicron might put you in bed fort a couple of days and from what i can see it doesn't matter if you're jabbed or not.
You're living in a MSM fear bubble. You would rather submit to the jab out of fear than being in bed for 2 days than saying enough is enough and finally standing up to the bullies in government.
Stok, whether you are a conspiracy theorist or not, it’s hard not to be a little bit sceptical about the TGA’s decision to approve Paxlovid based on a single study that is not peer reviewed nor even published.
Yet at the same time many other early treatments exist yet are either recommended against or for clinical trials only despite many, many peer reviewed trials and in some cases quite good evidence.
Just that alone has me pondering that more might be going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about.
Remember, every good investigative journalist starts out as a conspiracy theorist to some degree
tylerdurden wrote:Stok, whether you are a conspiracy theorist or not, it’s hard not to be a little bit sceptical about the TGA’s decision to approve Paxlovid based on a single study that is not peer reviewed nor even published.
Yet at the same time many other early treatments exist yet are either recommended against or for clinical trials only despite many, many peer reviewed trials and in some cases quite good evidence.Just that alone has me pondering that more might be going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about.
Remember, every good investigative journalist starts out as a conspiracy theorist to some degree
If its got a patient, then its good says the TGA $$$
If its not in patient (ivermectin) then its bad says the TGA (no money)
UK health professionals speaking out about the UK governments abandonment of rational response to covid.
What a load of horseshit stok. You reckon being bed ridden for a couple of days is a major problem? Worth immobilising billions of dollars to get a miracle cure? Or is it that ping you are chasing? You aren't the first addicted to the needle. As we are seeing when something sounds too good to be true it typically is. You are now lining up happily for your 3rd? Even promoting it? Sounds like a drug problem to me. 'This gear will save you, make you bullet proof' Heard it all before. I don't need the ping and to me you read like a few days of rest would do you the world of good.
imagine stoks medicine cabinet lol
Stok’s family a few months ago…..
shortenism wrote:What a load of horseshit stok. You reckon being bed ridden for a couple of days is a major problem? Worth immobilising billions of dollars to get a miracle cure? Or is it that ping you are chasing? You aren't the first addicted to the needle. As we are seeing when something sounds too good to be true it typically is. You are now lining up happily for your 3rd? Even promoting it? Sounds like a drug problem to me. 'This gear will save you, make you bullet proof' Heard it all before. I don't need the ping and to me you read like a few days of rest would do you the world of good.
Stok is a healthy thirty something surfer who gets the flu injection every year…..safe to say that his opinion on the necessity of medication is seriously compromised if not completely invalid.
@burlsack
Off you go again with fear, yet you're the one claiming we have a dictator(s) in Australia.
I really don't see the issue with it, you're treating getting an injection as if it's some sort of ceremonial punishment. For me it was an errand.
I also don't agree with your guess that having a vax won't help reduce the severity of your experience with covid, but I guess that depends who you listen to - medical experts and scientists who've studied in the field and know what they're talking about, or social media opportunists (such as your mate the Primod) who has no idea what the fuck they're talking about but know how to stoke up anger/fear in the cooked mob that follow them.
@shortenism
Drug problem? Yeah righto. You clearly don't understand the scale of covid, the cost to society of days of work/hospitalisations/deaths. Of course for me personally the risk is low, but there is still a risk. Problem is, if everyone approaches this with a self centred 'me, me, me!' approach, then that very low risk will still represent a high enough number to do some unnecessary damage to our healthcare system.
Simple stuff to understand really, unless you're sucked down rabbit holes of fear and disillusionment.
@tyler
As I've said on this page before, take it up with the Advisory Committee on Medicines. They're an apparently independent body, with members names and qualifications/experience included. There's too many eyes on this, too much experience in the room, and too free of a press for their to be significant corruption of that nature in Australia.
Blowin wrote:Stok is a healthy thirty something surfer who gets the flu injection every year…..safe to say that his opinion on the necessity of medication is seriously compromised if not completely invalid.
Haha
All the places I've worked offer it to staff.
Simple way to reduce the likelihood of extended time of work.
gsco wrote:This change in terminology and now the vaccine status being considered up to date after a booster is possibly a political masterstroke by scomo. He's saying the federal LNP won't mandate boosters but the states still can.
He's now dangling the vaccine booster mandate carrot right in front of the dictator Labor states.
I think one of the biggest impediments to the federal Labor party's campaign is the Labor states buckling to this temptation and mandating boosters.
I think the federal Labor party will need to get some control over the dictator states on this one and keep them reigned in.
yep,
an absolute ' i don't hold a hose mate' masterstroke...
ticks all the non boxes he's seeking to tick
and leaves an absolute bomb for federal labor
will be most interesting if federal labor lose on this single issue, ...not good interesting... just interesting in a 'coulda seen that coming' way intetesting...
the wedge tail that might fly... this time...
Stok wrote:bluediamond wrote:People are coming together. It seemed that love was the overwhelming feeling amongst all the various people from every walk of life.
I dunno BD, not sure I've felt much love come from your posts in the past!
what do you expect?
when nearly every posts of yours tries to paint others as having some kind of mental illness or lack of intelligence...
projection 101?
dude, you really aren't as bright as you think you are...
or you are terribly bought...
both
shortenism said :
shortenism wrote:Thermalben, what is so obvious is the solution approach to this covid19 problem is a series of laws, which introduce greater surveillance, censorship and ultimately dependence on the state through a mass economic destruction. All under the banner of saving lives.
Ppl like Icke have brought together various individuals and research to highlight this point. I'm an observer and part timer, so will pass you onto him to do your own listening, reading etc. I'm also listening and reading the mainstream lines too..
Stok, yes you have a drug problem. The sooner you realise it the better champ. You have been manipulated and coerced by the biggest drug cartel in the world to take regular needles? There is no other explanation. Sorry.
Stok wrote:@burlsack
Off you go again with fear, yet you're the one claiming we have a dictator(s) in Australia.
I really don't see the issue with it, you're treating getting an injection as if it's some sort of ceremonial punishment. For me it was an errand.
I also don't agree with your guess that having a vax won't help reduce the severity of your experience with covid, but I guess that depends who you listen to - medical experts and scientists who've studied in the field and know what they're talking about, or social media opportunists (such as your mate the Primod) who has no idea what the fuck they're talking about but know how to stoke up anger/fear in the cooked mob that follow them.
Stok, if Daddy Dan came out tomorrow and said you need a 4th shot i have no doubt you would do it, you would say the same thing about the experts etc etc
However all around the world these experts are dropping all mandates and def not recommending 3rd, 4th shots for fit healthy people.
You're in a Dan Andrews cult.
Stok you need to leave this thread soon. The empty barrels have you surrounded and will soon start to feed on themselves once you are gone :) :)
stok has admitted only being here to make sure he keeps the pot stirred, doesn't surf
The Courier Mail jumps the shark.
"Terrified, gasping for breath and dying: Inside Qld’s busiest Covid ICU
As Covid ravages patient bodies, the unvaccinated plead for the jab while others close to death do something unexpected. Now doctors and nurses take us inside a Qld Covid ICU, revealing what goes on and the secret weapon treatment saving lives".
Again, it's in the language. Where's the threat? Why does ABC choose to use the word 'threat' for a legal, peaceful protest??
"People have been gathering in the ACT for a fortnight to protest various grievances, in particular their opposition to mandatory vaccination policies.
Demonstrators suggested protesting at the "Superhero Saturday" event at the vaccination clinic at the Australian Institute of Sport.
The plan was discussed at their main camping ground at Exhibition Park in Canberra's north, and shared on social media.
ACT Policing's Commander of Operations, Linda Champion, said police were aware of the threat and monitoring the demonstrators.
"We don't anticipate anything unlawful going on, but we [will be] there in sufficient numbers to ensure the safety of all parents and children turning up to the clinic," she said."
The language, the messaging, the fear mongering to the average joe citizen watching or reading their little bite sized chunk of news for the day.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-11/canberra-braces-for-vaccine-prote...
Sweden Declares The Pandemic To Be "Over” FEB 09, 2022
Sweden, a country which never imposed significant lockdown measures, has officially declared that the COVID-19 pandemic is “over” and announced that it will be lifting all remaining restrictions.
Yep. NZ getting revved up too.
https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/new-zealand-covid-protest-grows-af...
I've read this 4 times and still for the life of me can't identify the source this shit news publication is quoting.
Robo wrote:Sweden Declares The Pandemic To Be "Over” FEB 09, 2022
Sweden, a country which never imposed significant lockdown measures, has officially declared that the COVID-19 pandemic is “over” and announced that it will be lifting all remaining restrictions.
Shhhhhh, not these scientists. It’s only the corrupted ones in Australia Cok likes to listen to
OMG; I just spent 40 minutes waiting for a JP with one couple flying to NZ and another lady - lovely people but they would not stop jabbering about covid, spitting their opinions on everyone around (even through masks) ... everything from "are you boostered" through "doctors in the US have said inhaling betadine will kill covid in your nostrils" and so on.... omfg people are mad; EVERYONE is mad (except me).
Stok wrote:@BD
How was your friend who had the stroke? Is she better yet?
Still completly fucked Stok. She hasn't been able to return to work. Missed the birth of her niece last week because too sick to leave her parents care. She's been in and out of the doctors. Different specialists. They've conceded it 'most likely' is related to the jab. Her life's completely changed. I still haven't been able to visit her because she can't handle having visitors. Spends most of her time in bed. The doctors told her to expect this to last for up to 6 months.
And my other friend who's mum is going to canberra, she posted a video of her mum actually having the convulsions. Not made up. Why would you anyway. Yep. It's poison. Just because it didn't happen to you (and i'm glad it didn't, i sincerely mean that) doesn't mean it's not happening to many others. My dad's missus got fucked over from it too. She's still unwell......and there's plenty of others i know of.
bluediamond wrote:Stok wrote:@BD
How was your friend who had the stroke? Is she better yet?Still completly fucked Stok. She hasn't been able to return to work. Missed the birth of her niece last week because too sick to leave her parents care. She's been in and out of the doctors. Different specialists. They've conceded it 'most likely' is related to the jab. Her life's completely changed. I still haven't been able to visit her because she can't handle having visitors. Spends most of her time in bed. The doctors told her to expect this to last for up to 6 months.
And my other friend who's mum is going to canberra, she posted a video of her mum actually having the convulsions. Not made up. Why would you anyway. Yep. It's poison. Just because it didn't happen to you (and i'm glad it didn't, i sincerely mean that) doesn't mean it's not happening to many others. My dad's missus got fucked over from it too. She's still unwell......and there's plenty of others i know of.
Really heavy BD, so fucked that Drs will basically not commit to saying its a jab injury in fear they will be audited ty ATAGI, yet anyone with a recent covid positive test automatically categorised as a covid death.
Ive covered it before but my Uncle & MIL both had strokes after AZ (within 2 weeks) and NO doctor would write them an exemption from the next jab. Only told to take fizzer instead.
Excellent
bluediamond wrote:Stok wrote:@BD
How was your friend who had the stroke? Is she better yet?Still completly fucked Stok. She hasn't been able to return to work. Missed the birth of her niece last week because too sick to leave her parents care. She's been in and out of the doctors. Different specialists. They've conceded it 'most likely' is related to the jab. Her life's completely changed. I still haven't been able to visit her because she can't handle having visitors. Spends most of her time in bed. The doctors told her to expect this to last for up to 6 months.
And my other friend who's mum is going to canberra, she posted a video of her mum actually having the convulsions. Not made up. Why would you anyway. Yep. It's poison. Just because it didn't happen to you (and i'm glad it didn't, i sincerely mean that) doesn't mean it's not happening to many others. My dad's missus got fucked over from it too. She's still unwell......and there's plenty of others i know of.
It needs to happen to those demanding others be injected against their will.
Sad but true.
You don’t wish harm on anyone but these people are inflicting suffering on others and it needs to stop. Now.
bluediamond wrote:Stok wrote:@BD
How was your friend who had the stroke? Is she better yet?Still completly fucked Stok. She hasn't been able to return to work. Missed the birth of her niece last week because too sick to leave her parents care. She's been in and out of the doctors. Different specialists. They've conceded it 'most likely' is related to the jab. Her life's completely changed. I still haven't been able to visit her because she can't handle having visitors. Spends most of her time in bed. The doctors told her to expect this to last for up to 6 months.
And my other friend who's mum is going to canberra, she posted a video of her mum actually having the convulsions. Not made up. Why would you anyway. Yep. It's poison. Just because it didn't happen to you (and i'm glad it didn't, i sincerely mean that) doesn't mean it's not happening to many others. My dad's missus got fucked over from it too. She's still unwell......and there's plenty of others i know of.
I wish these stories were in the main stream news; they are real.
My thoughts and best wishes are with your friends.
Blowin wrote:Excellent
How good
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia