COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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wallpaper Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 8:56am
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well I've had my booster and I feel great. Even better knowing that I'm not in the 3% of people that represent the dumbest cunts in Australia.

You’re a one percenter bloke and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise!

that sounds like fodder for my new tatt!

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wallpaper Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 8:59am

Todays Hot Tip: Find out if your local epidemiologist is a truck driver by leaving a B double with the keys in it parked across her driveway.

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old-dog Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 9:07am

A bloke I ran into last week is a full on freedumb fuckwit, after forty years of living in a beachside trust home on welfare he can no longer afford his slab and bag of weed every week let alone a new play station and is fucken angry as hell at the guvamint.

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Hiccups Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 9:09am

WTF is going on in here? Tucker Carlson, David Icke, constant shit-posting. You dullards need to take a long hard look at yourselves. Away from the internet would be best methinks.

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gromfull Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 9:25am
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annnnnnnd, we have a new slur to keep a stoking that division....

'misogynist racist conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer white supremacist soveriegn citizen freedumb fighter cooker' ...just wasn't cutting it anymore... so now we have...

anti-boosters

well I'll wear anti- booster....

I won't wear the rest, because aside from being the most mindlessly dumb name calling for the most mindlessly dumb of name callers... they just aren't true...

Im not a conspiracy theorist, because I really do not buy into them, at all, ...no matter what the mindlessly reactive may say otherwise...

and, Im not an anti-vaxxer, because I've had all my vaccines, including these ones...

and Im certainly not any of the other mindlessly dumb slurs for the mindlessly dumb and divisive slurrers...

but I am an 'anti-booster'... because the whole thing stinks, ...the moving goal posts... the misinformation... the revolving door policy... the plain as day desperate desperation... it all stinks, and to be honest, the vaccines just seem to have very little merit if any at this point in time... very very little... I've had em, I've done it, Im done, and I'm not planning on doing anymore... fuck em...

Im an 'anti-booster'

go ya hardest mindless morons

I am more than happy to be a part of this 'extreme minority'

though it seems from comments, my position is neither extreme nor minority

but that little truth won't get in the way, ...for the bought, the deranged (still), and the whole stinking machine, that has well and truly lost its way...

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/goalposts-move-aga...

Well said, I agree completely with it all, and I too will not be getting boostered, I'm am out of the vaxx club, do not see any point to it for the same reasons you stated, and I'm meeting alot of people who going the same way, I'm even giving up customers that require you to be ,up to date, with your covid vaxx,

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gromfull Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 9:33am
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Not sure this has been shared in the past, but yeah...trust your governments..trust your health officials.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlZgvY-zHIc

Wow and they wonder why some of us don't trust them, now more than ever they need to front another enquiry for longer and be made , forced to answer what question , public representatives ask of them, aren't they there to serve the people

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 9:34am
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annnnnnnd, we have a new slur to keep a stoking that division....

'misogynist racist conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer white supremacist soveriegn citizen freedumb fighter cooker' ...just wasn't cutting it anymore... so now we have...

anti-boosters

well I'll wear anti- booster....

I won't wear the rest, because aside from being the most mindlessly dumb name calling for the most mindlessly dumb of name callers... they just aren't true...

Im not a conspiracy theorist, because I really do not buy into them, at all, ...no matter what the mindlessly reactive may say otherwise...

and, Im not an anti-vaxxer, because I've had all my vaccines, including these ones...

and Im certainly not any of the other mindlessly dumb slurs for the mindlessly dumb and divisive slurrers...

but I am an 'anti-booster'... because the whole thing stinks, ...the moving goal posts... the misinformation... the revolving door policy... the plain as day desperate desperation... it all stinks, and to be honest, the vaccines just seem to have very little merit if any at this point in time... very very little... I've had em, I've done it, Im done, and I'm not planning on doing anymore... fuck em...

Im an 'anti-booster'

go ya hardest mindless morons

I am more than happy to be a part of this 'extreme minority'

though it seems from comments, my position is neither extreme nor minority

but that little truth won't get in the way, ...for the bought, the deranged (still), and the whole stinking machine, that has well and truly lost its way...

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/goalposts-move-aga...

I think most people are going to be Anti Boosters at some stage as just not doing something now makes you " Anti"

It's just at what boost do they say okay do i really need or want the 3rd shot, 4th shot, 5th shot, 6th shot etc

I havent had a booster yet really not keen on doing so, but ill keep pumping them into me as long as i need them to get into Indo, and well it's sad that that may become the case.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:07am

Expert positive thought...
100% Experts agree : "Once all are Vaccinated we'll achieve herd immunity!"
100% Expert's agree : "After we're all Vaxed - Everyone will get Covid!" ... All say Aye...Here! Here!

Experts were half right!

Xmas 2021 > ( Just 5 of the Top Vaxed VIP Nations spread over 50% of the world's Covid ).
All Hail our Vax Experts...(Cough!)

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wallpaper Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:14am

For all your latest scientific and medical information follow the link below:

https://www.tollgroup.com/about/history

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Blowin Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:22am
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For all your latest scientific and medical information follow the link below:

https://www.tollgroup.com/about/history

Alternatively, you could go to Stok’s GP who thinks it’s necessary and appropriate for a healthy mid thirties surfer to get annual shots to wage war against…..dum dum dum…..the flu!!!!!!!

Or you can get your health advice from Brad Hazzard.

Lol

Then again, I think Wallpaper is another hypochondriacal boomer who is fizzing for his next shot to quell the anxiety for two minutes before the panic resumes.

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gragagan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:36am

Live stream from Canberra:

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Roadkill Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:37am
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well I've had my booster and I feel great. Even better knowing that I'm not in the 3% of people that represent the dumbest cunts in Australia.

That 3% is pretty well represented here!

True

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gragagan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:39am

The Canada one, better quality:

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gragagan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:40am

Both sound like they're full of cooked idiots haha

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Roadkill Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:43am
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Live stream from Canberra:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05fmYIGS4kk

See haw many peoples are here, no whyolance no whyolance…every peoples are beep beep toot toot and waving and happy.

A few hundered = a millions of peoples are here, so peace, everybawdy happy peoples…and no ones has covid.

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Roadkill Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 10:48am
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The Canada one, better quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoZQCLdXVo

BD, admitted to watching this for 4 hours and couldn't take his eyes off the screen. Was riveting stuff.

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wallpaper Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 11:01am

@blowin

You do know that the corona virus and the influenza virus are two different things right? (Stupid question really. It seems not.)

what you think doesn't have much relevance to reality does it sunshine. Anyway wonder what you'll be doing when this 'hypochondriac boomer' sails tripled vaxxed and boosted through customs on my way to spot X for my next long overdue surf trip.

this is what I'll be doing: thinking see ya suckers

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wallpaper Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 11:05am

one more thing blowin - clearly you see no reason why you should be concerned about society generally (ie including older and immunogigally compromised people) it's a fact that one day you'll be older and Covid will still be with us. maybe that hadn't struck you yet.

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gragagan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 11:06am
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The Canada one, better quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoZQCLdXVo

BD, admitted to watching this for 4 hours and couldn't take his eyes off the screen. Was riveting stuff.

I got bored after 30 seconds

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etarip Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 11:33am

Idiots in Canberra have trashed the camping ground they’re in. It’s part of the Exhibition Park in Canberra (EPIC) where they hold big events. There’s photos of signs with ‘Nuremberg 2.0’ on them. That’s pretty fucking grim.

A result of the damage they’ve done is that the Lifeline bookfair, a key fundraising event for an important charity, has been canceled.

Don’t believe the hype about tens of thousands of people in Canberra backed up by videos of massive convoys. They’ve been creating traffic jams then filming the ordinary people who just want to go to Bunnings or the supermarket and claiming that they’re part of the movement. They just want a sausage sandwich FFS.

The protestors are infiltrated by A-grade fuckwits. Cops have asked them to move on by tmrw.

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Supafreak Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 11:50am

Interesting study , might encourage some to do a bit more exercise too . https://neurosciencenews.com/exercise-vaccine-immune-20059/

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sypkan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:05pm

really etarip?

I don't dispute most of your post, but what's with this...

"Don’t believe the hype about tens of thousands of people in Canberra backed up by videos of massive convoys. They’ve been creating traffic jams then filming the ordinary people who just want to go to Bunnings or the supermarket and claiming that they’re part of the movement. They just want a sausage sandwich FFS."

come on mate, you're better than that...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=316592420431001&id=143035168...

there's clearly tens of thousands of people, if not yesterday, today

I honestly don't get the outright desperation to deny reality, and desperation is all that it is... coming from many levels and angles...

sure dismiss their concerns, write them off if you must... but this warping of reality for political gain has got to stop

it just feeds the beast

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Blowin Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 11:56am

There’s a clown ready to cruel any occasion.

Shame to have such a worthwhile message disrupted by these strange folk.

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bonza Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:07pm
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WTF is going on in here? Tucker Carlson, David Icke, constant shit-posting. You dullards need to take a long hard look at yourselves. Away from the internet would be best methinks.

David Icke was a pisstake by udo. Made me laugh.

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etarip Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:14pm
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really etarip?

don't dispute most of your post, but what's with this...

"Don’t believe the hype about tens of thousands of people in Canberra backed up by videos of massive convoys. They’ve been creating traffic jams then filming the ordinary people who just want to go to Bunnings or the supermarket and claiming that they’re part of the movement. They just want a sausage sandwich FFS."

come on mate, you're better than that...
here's clearly tens of thousands of people

I honestly don't get the outright desperation to deny reality, and desperation is all ot is, coming from many levels

sure dismiss their concerns, write them off if you must... but this warping of reality for political gain has got to stop

it just feeds the beast

I was in Canberra for most of this week and here this weekend. Know a fair few people here so been talking with them too (went to uni here and have worked on and off in Canberra for 25 years). I’m currently about 5km from EPIC and less than 500m from Northbourne Ave. There’s a decent crowd but it’s definitely not any bigger than half the size of Summernats - which is a decent basis of comparison. Certainly some normal looking folk floating around but interspersed with absolute flogs. The traffic jam tactic is reasonably well known. Is every car you see in the videos tooting their horn, waving flags and holding signs? Here’s a tip; the ones that aren’t are just people going about their business.

The local shops to EPIC, a suburb called Watson, has had a group of flogs abusing regular folk doing their shopping for wearing masks. Which seems a little at odds with the right to individual freedom doesn’t it?

I’m not philosophically inclined to support vaccine mandates. I’ve got no beef with democratic, peaceful protest. I’m just telling you what I’ve seen and what a bunch of people I know have seen and experienced.

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burleigh Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:09pm

The force is strong with the jab junkies here today.
Go get your booster boys, gives us something to laugh at.

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etarip Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:13pm
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The force is strong with the jab junkies here today.
Go get your booster boys, gives us something to laugh at.

You an anti-masker too burlz?

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burleigh Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:16pm
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The force is strong with the jab junkies here today.
Go get your booster boys, gives us something to laugh at.

You an anti-masker too burlz?

NEVER worn one. Got an exemption very early on before the government crackdown on everything

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aaron61 Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:16pm

Pfizer would like to thank you all for taking part in these clinical trials.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/11/covid-booster-effectiveness-wanes-after-...

Kids on hold.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-kids-fda...

Safe and effective...

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etarip Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:19pm
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The force is strong with the jab junkies here today.
Go get your booster boys, gives us something to laugh at.

You an anti-masker too burlz?

NEVER worn one. Got an exemption very early on before the government crackdown on everything

Good for you! How good’s that totalitarian state!?!

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sypkan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:21pm

fair enough

but none of that negates the fact there's clearly tens of thousands of people

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etarip Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 12:24pm
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fair enough

but none of that negates the fact there's clearly tens of thousands of people

I’m heading into town later for a reunion / catch up drinks with a bunch of mates. About half out of towners and half locals. Will report what I see there.

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Supafreak Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:13pm

Boosters every six months not a viable strategy, says Doherty chief
Tom Burton
Tom BurtonGovernment editor
Feb 7, 2022 – 5.00am

Administering repeated mRNA vaccines is not a viable strategy, and there is a strong need to develop broad-based vaccines and therapeutics to protect against future variants, says the head of the Doherty Institute.
With many more medical tools available to prevent severe disease, Professor Sharon Lewin predicted that Australia would begin to move away from “blunt” population controls to a testing and isolation approach that focused on reducing disease risk, rather than infection control, similar to the Danish response. Denmark has just lifted all restrictions, including wearing masks, despite there still being a high number of omicron cases. It has taken a similar highly technical approach to the pandemic to Australia and has vaccine levels similar to or better than the most populous Australian states.
But while Professor Lewin was optimistic about the course of the pandemic, she said it was important to have a “scenario plan” for future more virulent variants. This would avoid the problems thrown up by the contagious omicron variant, which had been unanticipated by governments and scientists around the world.
Professor Lewin is an infectious disease expert and her Melbourne University Doherty Institute has led a consortium of academic modellers and epidemiologists that informed Australia’s initial response to the Wuhan variant and the reopening plan after the delta variant wave last year. Controlling disease rather than infection
She predicted there would be a switch to a clinical definition for COVID-19 sickness.
“That would mean a much simpler messaging to the public to stay at home if sick,” she said.
Under this scenario, the testing and reporting of cases would evolve to only be necessary for people entering hospitals – similar to what happens with flu – with isolation focused on vulnerable groups.
“I’m not saying that that’s going to come in now, but that could be a future scenario if you are not worried about disease (severity),” she said.
“That’s really what is sitting behind the Danish changes in their restrictions in that they’re not worrying about infection, and they’re just worrying about disease.” New medical tools give more options
Professor Lewin said the pandemic was not over, but she was optimistic because Australia had “many more levers” to pull than in the first phase of the pandemic, and was now moving to where measures would be based on the characteristics of the variant it was facing.
“We’ve got a lot more tools available. How we use vaccines and boosters, and variant specific vaccines and new technologies, how we use testing, how we use antivirals, they will all be different, based on the variant we are facing,” she said.
“I think the overall strategy is all headed towards reducing disease, deaths and hospitalisation, special measures to protect the vulnerable and less blunt population-based blanket rules, which is what we were doing before we had these other tools.
“The stringency of isolation and quarantine will depend on the features of the virus.
“I think a lot of the public were very confused about the shift in strategy, even in opening up plans, when it went from delta to omicron. “Those policies are all related to the features of the virus. So if we had a virus that was much more pathogenic, we would ramp up the stringency again for isolation and quarantine because you’ve got a lot to lose if someone catches it. That’s the uncertainty in the future.”
Change in vaccine strategy
Professor Lewin said “chasing variants and boosting people every six months is not a viable strategy for the world”.
“We won’t be able to manufacture that amount, and you’ll never be able to keep up with the variance.
“An omicron variant vaccine may not be better than a Wuhan vaccine, even against omicron.
“A much better way would be to have what’s called a pan-sarbecoviruses. “These are vaccines that can protect against most corona variants, rather than specific strains. That would be a far more sustainable strategy than repeated mRNA vaccines.
“We just don’t know enough about how durable the immunities are. You may get better durable immunity with mixing vaccines.”
I think we need to be realistic that COVID is not over and that there will be more unexpected challenges.
— Sharon Lewin, head of the Doherty Institute
But a recurrent mRNA vaccine every six months was not a viable future strategy, she said, adding that there was advanced work on a pan-coronavirus vaccine and antibodies that are ready now.
“This is not wishful thinking. People are publishing capabilities to do this now. So, we might see them in clinical trials even as early as this year. So, this is not something that there is hope or wish for the future.”
Professor Lewin said that while she was optimistic about the course of the pandemic, it was important “to plan for the worst”. “I think we need to be realistic that COVID is not over and that there will be more unexpected challenges,” she said.
“The worst would be a new variant that causes much more severe disease. It’s possible, I’m not saying it’s likely, but it’s possible.
“We’ve got to do a lot more scenario planning around potential new variants and start to think about what would be the triggers to activate more extreme measures... I think that is all quite unlikely, but it’s all possible.”
Professor Lewin said that while it appeared the number of cases had peaked for the current omicron wave, she was uncertain about the short-term epidemiology, noting there was a second subvariant called BA.2.Stopping the virus from evolving
While she expected the focus to remain on limiting disease severity, infection control was still important to limit the evolution of the virus.
She noted there were emerging nasal-based vaccines that gave better mucosal immunity.
The mucosa line the airways and, rather than attack the virus once its enters the body, nasal vaccines stop the virus from entering the body.
Danes at Copenhagen’s central station enjoy their first maskless and restriction-free day.

Europe heads for COVID-19 ‘ceasefire’
“Although we are largely focused on its public health level in reducing disease, reducing infection has still some benefits, though that’s much tougher thing to do.
“It does have an important role because it will stop evolution of the virus.
“Even if the virus doesn’t make you sick, it will cause other infections. So with omicron it allows the virus to evolve.
“So a long-term strategy to get on top of this issue of blocking infection will be important.” https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/boosters-every-six-month....

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sypkan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:22pm

maybe a few thousand... maybe definitely...

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/antivaccine-mandate-rallie...

I gotta say, having these other events within the vicinity is just dumb and shows the cluelessness of our leaders is up there with trudeau...

seriously who didn't have the forsight to reschedule a superheros kids vaccination day at AIS?

it's like a red flag to a bull...

I hope nothing happens, but geez, ya gotta wonder...about a lot...

pretty sure if there was a captain cook appreciation society meet at the memorial at the same time as blm rallies, common sense would have prevailed...

absolutely clueless

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etarip Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:33pm

Having these other events in the vicinity?
What? Like, the pre-planned events? The farmers market?

That would be an authoritarian government that imposed decisions to cancel community events…?

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Stok Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:34pm

LOL, of course burlsack has an exemption from wearing a mask.

A supposedly living, breathing image of perfect health....can't wear a mask and had to go to the docs to get one.

I would bet a large sum of money that if we were around at the time of seat belt laws coming into play, Burleigh would be one of the flogs arguing against wearing them.

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Stok Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:37pm

Old mate can sling a few verses.

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Supafreak Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:45pm

There’s a fair amount of footage of protests in Canberra if you can be bothered with the ads . https://www.9news.com.au/national/protesters-convoy-canberra-anti-vaccin...

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sypkan Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:48pm

no, that would be a wise established ruling class, that is well aware of their surroundings and constituents

the fact it is in canberra, public service mecca, and a city miles from anywhere, where anyone with half a clue has seen the build up over the last few days, just confirms my point

absolutely clueless

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bluediamond Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:52pm
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The Canada one, better quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoZQCLdXVo

BD, admitted to watching this for 4 hours and couldn't take his eyes off the screen. Was riveting stuff.

Yes mate. Horses for courses but i'll happily explain why.
The guy filming it (a former lawyer) walked around with a camera, everybody that he talked to came up and thanked him for what he was doing and many said it was one of the best things they've ever been involved in.
He stopped and talked to a fella from Slovakia, who said he'd left Slovakia 25 years ago after communism ended there, hoping for a better life, but now, he said, the current Canadian regime feels like he's back there again.
He talked to a Romanian truck driver who had similar sentiments, a guy who just wanted the mandates to be lifted so his son, who's unvaccinated could have some joy back in his eyes again.
He talked to a nurse who had lost her job because of the mandates, who had tears in her eyes as she expressed it as being one of the greatest things she's been a part of "It feels like a long lost family, after 2 long years of being separated from everybody"
I saw a group of 20 something year old males, with shovels in hand, shovelling snow off the footpath so people could safely navigate the city streets.
I saw a woman who stopped briefly to be interviewed, carrying a cup of coffee and a donut, that she'd bought for a homeless guy up the street.
Every single person that came up to him was from a different walk of life. There was the odd red neck. Most were well educated, and most spoke quietly, calmly, with reason and with conviction.
It would serve you well to take the time to watch more than 30 seconds before forming an opinion on it. If you can sit through the 6oclock news for 30minutes (fuck knows how any sane human could) then you owe it to the people you're judging to at least try to listen and learn.

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gragagan wrote:

The Canada one, better quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoZQCLdXVo

BD, admitted to watching this for 4 hours and couldn't take his eyes off the screen. Was riveting stuff.

Yes mate. Horses for courses but i'll happily explain why.
The guy filming it (a former lawyer) walked around with a camera, everybody that he talked to came up and thanked him for what he was doing and many said it was one of the best things they've ever been involved in.
He stopped and talked to a fella from Slovakia, who said he'd left Slovakia 25 years ago after communism ended there, hoping for a better life, but now, he said, the current Canadian regime feels like he's back there again.
He talked to a Romanian truck driver who had similar sentiments, a guy who just wanted the mandates to be lifted so his son, who's unvaccinated could have some joy back in his eyes again.
He talked to a nurse who had lost her job because of the mandates, who had tears in her eyes as she expressed it as being one of the greatest things she's been a part of "It feels like a long lost family, after 2 long years of being separated from everybody"
I saw a group of 20 something year old males, with shovels in hand, shovelling snow off the footpath so people could safely navigate the city streets.
I saw a woman who stopped briefly to be interviewed, carrying a cup of coffee and a donut, that she'd bought for a homeless guy up the street.
Every single person that came up to him was from a different walk of life. There was the odd red neck. Most were well educated, and most spoke quietly, calmly, with reason and with conviction.
It would serve you well to take the time to watch more than 30 seconds before forming an opinion on it. If you can sit through the 6oclock news for 30minutes (fuck knows how any sane human could) then you owe it to the people you're judging to at least try to listen and learn.

Nice sob story.

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bluediamond Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 1:59pm
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There’s a fair amount of footage of protests in Canberra if you can be bothered with the ads . https://www.9news.com.au/national/protesters-convoy-canberra-anti-vaccin...

Geez, just a couple of people.
Ahhh the irony of using 'the mental health expo being cancelled' while the lockdowns and mandates have probably caused more mental health issues in 2 years than 20 years. Nice one ABC.

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burleigh Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:01pm
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LOL, of course burlsack has an exemption from wearing a mask.

A supposedly living, breathing image of perfect health....can't wear a mask and had to go to the docs to get one.

I would bet a large sum of money that if we were around at the time of seat belt laws coming into play, Burleigh would be one of the flogs arguing against wearing them.

Hah fuck you’re a tool.

I got an exemption because I didn’t want to wear a mask and didn’t know where this shit was heading.

Turns out I’ve never had to show it anyway.

Bit rich you commenting on my health, as you also seem like a healthy human, except you’re first in line for covid and flu shots. Says a lot about you actually.

Did you also walk your kids around on a leash?

And no, seatbelts make sense, unlike the jab which is like putting sticky tape over your seatbelt (immune system)

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bluediamond Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:01pm
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The Canada one, better quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoZQCLdXVo

BD, admitted to watching this for 4 hours and couldn't take his eyes off the screen. Was riveting stuff.

Yes mate. Horses for courses but i'll happily explain why.
The guy filming it (a former lawyer) walked around with a camera, everybody that he talked to came up and thanked him for what he was doing and many said it was one of the best things they've ever been involved in.
He stopped and talked to a fella from Slovakia, who said he'd left Slovakia 25 years ago after communism ended there, hoping for a better life, but now, he said, the current Canadian regime feels like he's back there again.
He talked to a Romanian truck driver who had similar sentiments, a guy who just wanted the mandates to be lifted so his son, who's unvaccinated could have some joy back in his eyes again.
He talked to a nurse who had lost her job because of the mandates, who had tears in her eyes as she expressed it as being one of the greatest things she's been a part of "It feels like a long lost family, after 2 long years of being separated from everybody"
I saw a group of 20 something year old males, with shovels in hand, shovelling snow off the footpath so people could safely navigate the city streets.
I saw a woman who stopped briefly to be interviewed, carrying a cup of coffee and a donut, that she'd bought for a homeless guy up the street.
Every single person that came up to him was from a different walk of life. There was the odd red neck. Most were well educated, and most spoke quietly, calmly, with reason and with conviction.
It would serve you well to take the time to watch more than 30 seconds before forming an opinion on it. If you can sit through the 6oclock news for 30minutes (fuck knows how any sane human could) then you owe it to the people you're judging to at least try to listen and learn.

Nice sob story.

How is that a sob story Roadkill? Would you like to explain your comments?

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bluediamond Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:02pm

It's hard not to feel sorry for you Roadkill.

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etarip Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:04pm
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no, that would be a wise established ruling class, that is well aware of their surroundings and constituents

the fact it is in canberra, public service mecca, and a city miles from anywhere, where anyone with half a clue has seen the build up over the last few days, just confirms my point

absolutely clueless

So you’re saying that the ACT government should cancel a scheduled voluntary vaccination event, in case ‘anti-mandate’ (that’s being kind) protesters decided that they wanted to disrupt it?

What kind of policy precedent would that set? Letting one group interfere with the free choice of another?

I don’t think anyone is too concerned about the protests tbh. It’s a bit of a shitshow, but not much more than a minor nuisance from what I can see.

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burleigh Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:06pm

Roadkill had a big morning surfing kiddies corner at Burleigh. Was that you out there wearing the mask?

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bluediamond Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:09pm

I've noticed a dangerous precedent being set by commenters on here about protesters and the way they are being categorized and stigmatised as 'less than' and 'others'. Sub humans even for taking part in protests for things they believe in to be just and right.
I'd be very careful with that.
By setting a precedent of condemnation, where does that leave you if something that you feel is truly awful and unjust affects your life?
How could you ever protest against....anything now that you've discredited it in such vitriolic language.
When the shoes on the other foot, how would you feel? If this last 2 years has shown anything it's that anything is possible. It might just be you that is the outcast of society before you know it, and then how are you going to stand up for your rights and your freedom??

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bluediamond Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:10pm
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Roadkill had a big morning surfing kiddies corner at Burleigh. Was that you out there wearing the mask?

hahaha

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Roadkill Saturday, 12 Feb 2022 at 2:13pm
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I've noticed a dangerous precedent being set by commenters on here about protesters and the way they are being categorized and stigmatised as 'less than' and 'others'. Sub humans even for taking part in protests for things they believe in to be just and right.
I'd be very careful with that.
By setting a precedent of condemnation, where does that leave you if something that you feel is truly awful and unjust affects your life?
How could you ever protest against....anything now that you've discredited it in such vitriolic language.
When the shoes on the other foot, how would you feel? If this last 2 years has shown anything it's that anything is possible. It might just be you that is the outcast of society before you know it, and then how are you going to stand up for your rights and your freedom??

All the while turning a blind eye to the language and anger used against those that don’t agree with anti Vaxers.

Such a blind hypocrite, BD.