COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
san Guine wrote:No apology then?
Not when your comment was meant to mislead. Hell no.
No Burleigh you were just being presumptuous. Cummon..
burleigh wrote:san Guine wrote:No apology then?
Not when your comment was meant to mislead. Hell no.
Nil attempt to obfuscate on my behalf...
stunet wrote:burleigh wrote:seeds wrote:I think you’re all bonkers. Day in day out. Non stop. Bloody hell! And to what end?
You’re not changing a damn thing with all your raving/raging on here.Feels good though
The most illuminating post yet.
Was it ever Stu ??
I'd hate to know what makes him feel bad?? Possibly an involuntary check-in to Ward 5.
Fuck I’ve spent way too much time on here today. Craig can I have a job?
I’ll moderate this thread and ban Robo for asking you to fight him.
Thanks
Ha. Indeed.
Alana_a wrote:That is a flat out embarrassing admission by you san guine. One of the worst fibs on the thread.
Alana,
Looking forward to your apology
seeds wrote:I think you’re all bonkers. Day in day out. Non stop. Bloody hell! And to what end?
You’re not changing a damn thing with all your raving/raging on here.
On the money seeds.
Haven’t looked at this thread since Pipe contest and it’s still almost word for word repeated day in day out.
It’s fucking mental.
Seriously looney bin shit
Same GF, stayed out for five days, come back and it's the same old.
Craig wrote:Same GF, stayed out for five days, come back and it's the same old.
And threatened with a beating for good measure ha ha ha
goofyfoot wrote:seeds wrote:I think you’re all bonkers. Day in day out. Non stop. Bloody hell! And to what end?
You’re not changing a damn thing with all your raving/raging on here.On the money seeds.
Haven’t looked at this thread since Pipe contest and it’s still almost word for word repeated day in day out.
It’s fucking mental.
Seriously looney bin shit
yet you can't stay away lol
same reason I go to the circus robo, I like to see the clowns :-0
Fair point Goofy. I'm currently watching my community disintegrating because alot of people refuse to comply with a forced experiment on their body. They are choosing autonomy of their bodies over a jab which has proven to have no effect in stopping spread and seems to be putting more people at risk who were never in serious danger of covid to start with.
Seeing that on the ground, and being one of those outcasts who are made to feel less than human in our society is pretty confronting. Maybe jumping on here now and then to have a whinge about it is just a release. I don't hold any grudges to the commenters on here, my spite is aimed purely and squarely at the governments that were elected under a false premise that are now dividing our communities and causing shitloads of suffering. I think it's also important to pass observations on from this part of the world so people can understand it's real, people are suffering and there's seemingly no end in sight.
Rebel news on The Hill reporting on the truckers protest in Canada , sounds like some parts of Canada are moving forward but the Boss is having problems within his own party .
bluediamond wrote:Fair point Goofy. I'm currently watching my community disintegrating because alot of people refuse to comply with a forced experiment on their body. They are choosing autonomy of their bodies over a jab which has proven to have no effect in stopping spread and seems to be putting more people at risk who were never in serious danger of covid to start with.
Seeing that on the ground, and being one of those outcasts who are made to feel less than human in our society is pretty confronting. Maybe jumping on here now and then to have a whinge about it is just a release. I don't hold any grudges to the commenters on here, my spite is aimed purely and squarely at the governments that were elected under a false premise that are now dividing our communities and causing shitloads of suffering. I think it's also important to pass observations on from this part of the world so people can understand it's real, people are suffering and there's seemingly no end in sight.
I reserve as much spite for those civilians who support the vaccine mandates as I do for the politicians enacting them. At least you know the politicians are doing it for their careers - it certainly isn’t based on scientific or medical objectivism- but the punters who give the politicians the support they grave are the real villains. They do it because they’re either spiteful, scared enough that they’re willing to sacrifice others for themselves or they’re proper sadistic authoritarian creeps.
Either way…..they’re sub human scum who delight in dividing our community, inciting hate against an innocent demographic of people and inflicting emotional, financial and physical suffering on others who refuse to conform to their arbitrary demands.
I think there is hope. Looking around the world and it’s media, there are a lot that have been pushing the hysteria over the last couple years who now are doing some serious back-peddling. Even stating as fact certain things which, just last year would have been called a conspiracy theory. More people are starting to see it for what it really is.
Just gotta wait for WA to catch up as usual.
Trudeau, like Adern, is an alumni of the World Economic Forum’s “Young Global Leaders “ program. He has a bigger game in mind with the vaccine passports than just getting people vaccinated. It’s all about getting the population accustomed to conformity and the Digital ID.
https://www.smh.com.au/technology/national-digital-id-plan-sparks-austra...
Looks like the above is handled by the same bloke who handled Robodebt. Totally trustworthy individual.
So bluey how do you feel about the classic old Aboriginal elders who have a huge risk of dying if they catch covid, or is it only "young" black lives that matter. Just wondering how you justify that one.
@olddog What a bizarre and out of context question. How's that personal gripe going? You never did answer if you know me. It feels like you hold a grudge.
Local car wash guy just told me he stopped work in January, servo management told him he had to wear a mask while washing cars outside , he works out of the end 2 bays of a car wash. Him and his dad who died last year have been there for years and years.
Brain dead imbeciles.
old-dog wrote:So bluey how do you feel about the classic old Aboriginal elders who have a huge risk of dying if they catch covid, or is it only "young" black lives that matter. Just wondering how you justify that one.
hopefully they should be getting looked after, they get $330 billion in government funding a year, for 3% of population its not bad.
A metropolitan firey i know that works in Adelaide is gonna be stood down for refusing the mandates. There's another less person who's sacrificed alot to serve the community being shafted by the community he has always protected.
Speaking of fires, it's alleged that when the fires were happening down here last week, some of the evacuation centres were not allowing people who didn't have their double jab certification to enter. I watched the council meeting live and the topic was raised to which the mayor said that wouldn't be happening from that point on.
Brain dead imbeciles is an understatement Robo.
bluediamond wrote:A metropolitan firey i know that works in Adelaide is gonna be stood down for refusing the mandates. There's another less person who's sacrificed alot to serve the community being shafted by the community he has always protected.
Speaking of fires, it's alleged that when the fires were happening down here last week, some of the evacuation centres were not allowing people who didn't have their double jab certification to enter. I watched the council meeting live and the topic was raised to which the mayor said that wouldn't be happening from that point on.
Brain dead imbeciles is an understatement Robo.
My SIL who has been a school teach in Adelaide for 40 years told then to shove it lol, these people are everywhere, another family member 21 just finished uni for nursing last year, was offered a job in local hospital, knocked it back, has 3 other jobs for now, may go back to it in years to come.
Nah no grudge at all and never saw your question, I don't think its out of context, correct me if I'm wrong but when the the health authorities shut down outback communities to save lives and help stop the spread weren't you the one jumping on conspiracy theories about the military and secret genocide plans etc. I just cant understand where all the mistrust and paranoia of Govts. scientists and medical experts comes from, sure they fuck up and get it wrong a lot but they are only trying to do their best and stop the hospital system from collapse and keep the economy growing without too many deaths. So my question was do you think the vulnerable elders should get jabbed or not. Cheers.
Robo wrote:old-dog wrote:So bluey how do you feel about the classic old Aboriginal elders who have a huge risk of dying if they catch covid, or is it only "young" black lives that matter. Just wondering how you justify that one.
Geez, have to completely disagree with you on that opinion Robo, but there's a separate thread for that.
hopefully they should be getting looked after, they get $330 billion in government funding a year, for 3% of population its not bad.
old-dog wrote:Nah no grudge at all and never saw your question, I don't think its out of context, correct me if I'm wrong but when the the health authorities shut down outback communities to save lives and help stop the spread weren't you the one jumping on conspiracy theories about the military and secret genocide plans etc. I just cant understand where all the mistrust and paranoia of Govts. scientists and medical experts comes from, sure they fuck up and get it wrong a lot but they are only trying to do their best and stop the hospital system from collapse and keep the economy growing without too many deaths. So my question was do you think the vulnerable elders should get jabbed or not. Cheers.
Yes Old dog, completely suss on the government. You'd have rocks in your head not to be. Suspicion is born from the outright lies we've been fed throughout the pandemic and the backtracking that's constantly happening after the fact. By media, government and government health officials. Pharmaceutical companies.... Fark, theres 290 pages of that in this thread. I'm not going to go back over it. I'm sure you've read it.
As for your question, i think Aboriginal elders should have the choice, just like everyone should have the choice. I still don't understand how that's not clear. White, black, young, old, big, little, it's about choice, not being forced. If you believe the jab is effective, and for the large proportion of the population, i don't believe it is, then go for it. Doesn't bother me what someone's choice is.
edit: just wanted to add to this comment regarding the 'hysteric' response to the percieved imprisonment of Indigenous people in their communities. Yes, i did fall for that one. You got me. Got caught hook line and sinker, although i still don't know the full story of that, but it did teach me a lesson in checking your sources late at night when you've had a few beers!!
old-dog wrote:So bluey how do you feel about the classic old Aboriginal elders who have a huge risk of dying if they catch covid, or is it only "young" black lives that matter. Just wondering how you justify that one.
WTF is wrong with you?
bluediamond wrote:old-dog wrote:Nah no grudge at all and never saw your question, I don't think its out of context, correct me if I'm wrong but when the the health authorities shut down outback communities to save lives and help stop the spread weren't you the one jumping on conspiracy theories about the military and secret genocide plans etc. I just cant understand where all the mistrust and paranoia of Govts. scientists and medical experts comes from, sure they fuck up and get it wrong a lot but they are only trying to do their best and stop the hospital system from collapse and keep the economy growing without too many deaths. So my question was do you think the vulnerable elders should get jabbed or not. Cheers.
Yes Old dog, completely suss on the government. You'd have rocks in your head not to be. Suspicion is born from the outright lies we've been fed throughout the pandemic and the backtracking that's constantly happening after the fact. By media, government and government health officials. Pharmaceutical companies.... Fark, theres 290 pages of that in this thread. I'm not going to go back over it. I'm sure you've read it.
As for your question, i think Aboriginal elders should have the choice, just like everyone should have the choice. I still don't understand how that's not clear. White, black, young, old, big, little, it's about choice, not being forced. If you believe the jab is effective, and for the large proportion of the population, i don't believe it is, then go for it. Doesn't bother me what someone's choice is.
edit: just wanted to add to this comment regarding the 'hysteric' response to the percieved imprisonment of Indigenous people in their communities. Yes, i did fall for that one. You got me. Got caught hook line and sinker, although i still don't know the full story of that, but it did teach me a lesson in checking your sources late at night when you've had a few beers!!
Been lots of Aboriginal protestors in Canberra flying the flag, no different than the rest of the population, some will get it some won't, although I reckon they would be sus on the white fellas medicine especially the older ones.
old-dog wrote:Nah no grudge at all and never saw your question, I don't think its out of context, correct me if I'm wrong but when the the health authorities shut down outback communities to save lives and help stop the spread weren't you the one jumping on conspiracy theories about the military and secret genocide plans etc. I just cant understand where all the mistrust and paranoia of Govts. scientists and medical experts comes from, sure they fuck up and get it wrong a lot but they are only trying to do their best and stop the hospital system from collapse and keep the economy growing without too many deaths. So my question was do you think the vulnerable elders should get jabbed or not. Cheers.
in 2 years show me a hospital that has come anywhere near collapsing lol, there's been no flu, covid patients just replacing the flu patients, your just repeating the narrative.
and no they shouldn't if they don't want to like the rest of us
burleigh wrote:old-dog wrote:So bluey how do you feel about the classic old Aboriginal elders who have a huge risk of dying if they catch covid, or is it only "young" black lives that matter. Just wondering how you justify that one.
WTF is wrong with you?
old age, 1 year of dogs life is 7 of our's haha
@ Bluey, good answer.
@ Burleigh, You should take up surfing mate, you could do a bit of research and skip the pesky learning stage and be on the WCT next year. Go your hardest I prob. wont bother checking this thread for awhile. Over and out.
shoredump wrote:One other thing I should have added, did you even read the paper I linked from your same source speaking of long term consequences from acute influenza
No I didn't Shoredump missed it but not surprised at the ongoing problems after progression to pneumonia.
@Shoredump
"We had over a million active cases and we peaked at 414 ICU
When someone says “it’s just the flu” they aren’t talking on a molecular level but on a threat level. Anyone who tries to shut that down is trying to instill fear by lying about its potential threat"
I understand your point but that's not how it comes across to me we might have to give up on this point can't see either of us giving ground.
"I totally agree, it’s twice as bad as the flu, maybe 4 times as bad. But on a scale of what we might get it’s a nothing event. It’s far less a problem than climate change"
Absolutely agree.
"and knowing that gain of function research centres are playing with bugs with a 20% death rate, I’m now concerned about all the terrorists sitting at home suddenly realising all they have to do is blow one up. There are bigger threats than Covid"
And again absolutely agree.
"and people are allowed to respond as such"
I don't understand this bit?
"What’s next, are you going to walk up to Gerry Lopez and tell him it’s not a cake walk, that in fact 18 people have died there"
And you really lost me here also have no idea where you are going?
Havent watched or listened (also podcast) to it yet but I'm sure this will be good
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/fully-covid-vaccinated-two-doses-...
Australia's definition of being fully vaccinated against COVID-19 is set to change, with people aged over 16 years now only considered "up to date" with their vaccinations if they have had their booster shots.
Key points:
People will be need to get a booster within six months of their primary course to be 'up to date'
The rule will not apply to international travellers coming to Australia.
Lolol
Australia = Hilarious
Blowin wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/fully-covid-vaccinated-two-doses-...
Australia's definition of being fully vaccinated against COVID-19 is set to change, with people aged over 16 years now only considered "up to date" with their vaccinations if they have had their booster shots.
Key points:
People will be need to get a booster within six months of their primary course to be 'up to date'
The rule will not apply to international travellers coming to Australia?Lolol
Australia = Hilarious
Only the AFL change the rules more.
This is potentially the absolutely worst thing that could happen, and a completely disgraceful day for Australia. The wording in the article is:
ABC wrote:Under the new rules, if it has been longer than six months since someone's last vaccine dose and they are eligible for a booster they will now be considered "overdue".
Does this imply that we would need to have a booster every 6 months, indefinitely?
Are they going to mandate this and enforce it by locking people out of society if they don't do this?
This is getting very dangerous. We are now on the borderline of no longer living in a free society. We are now nearly no different to China.
Australia should be going in the opposite direction of relaxing and removing all covid rules, restrictions and vaccine mandates and requirements, etc, and moving on in life as a free and open society.
Naturally acquired immunity is not recognised by the Australian government.
Australian government does not recognise science.
I think we will GSCO- this is just a face saving exercise to appease certain hard-liners.
You're a fearful bunch, that's for sure.
We're on the way out of this pandemic, this stuff will drop away.
I remember it last year 'they want to lock us in Australia forever!'.....all of a sudden - borders open and quarantine free travel.
Don't buy into the fear mongering, life is sweet.
If endless boosters get mandated then we are no longer living in a free and open society.
All the lessons of human progress - such as the enlightenment and French revolution - will have been abandoned and lost.
Out basic human, civil, and natural rights will have been taken from us.
This is the article.
Looks like the ABC page got removed...fake news ? (or bad url ?)
Ah - it got updated -
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/fully-covid-vaccinated-two-doses-...
monkeyboy wrote:Looks like the ABC page got removed...fake news ? (or bad url ?)
Ah - it got updated -
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/fully-covid-vaccinated-two-doses-...
They might have changed it because 3rd doses are still only recommended, not mandated.
"It is understood that national cabinet agreed it would not mandate booster shots nationally, except for aged care workers. But states and territories may decide to implement mandates in their own jurisdictions."
this is an important context and one I feel wont change unless the next variant is more deadly than the current.
Victoria and WA governments may continue to hold the line for their political purposes but those days are numbered.
gsco wrote:If endless boosters get mandated then we are no longer living in a free and open society.
All the lessons of human progress - such as the enlightenment and French revolution - will have been abandoned and lost.
Out basic human, civil, and natural rights will have been taken from us.
You serious?
Did you read the article? They said the third does have not been madated. No mention of future doses. You're like the boy who cried wolf.
p.s. natural rights are pretty open to interpetation....
'fearful' ....pfffffffff.... the narrative!!!
how can you possibly justify this stok when the rest of the world is heading in the exact opposite direction?
even the looney liberal press in the US have given up...
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/end-coronavirus-restri...
the jig is up mate
this is not science
This isnt surprising really. It's very likely this kind of ruling will apply to all "recommended" vaccinations. Some will say this is Australia leading the way; others will say over-reach. Most will accept it, some wont. Governments will enforce rules; governments will change rules. It's all just a complicated game.....
Stok wrote:You're a fearful bunch, that's for sure.
We're on the way out of this pandemic, this stuff will drop away.
I remember it last year 'they want to lock us in Australia forever!'.....all of a sudden - borders open and quarantine free travel.
Don't buy into the fear mongering, life is sweet.
Stok, are you ok? This is the most sane thing I’ve read from you
bonza:
"Victoria and WA governments may continue to hold the line for their political purposes but those days are numbered."
If you take a step back and think logically, it makes sense for VIC and WA to have a stricter take on covid.
VIC was hit hardest, had a tough time with states shutting their borders to them and couldn't escape the early paraiah image.
WA is a victim of its own successful management of covid.
They may take a bit longer, but both will get there in the end and drop all mandates/restrictions.
gsco wrote:This is potentially the absolutely worst thing that could happen, and a completely disgraceful day for Australia. The wording in the article is:
ABC wrote:Under the new rules, if it has been longer than six months since someone's last vaccine dose and they are eligible for a booster they will now be considered "overdue".
Does this imply that we would need to have a booster every 6 months, indefinitely?
Are they going to mandate this and enforce it by locking people out of society if they don't do this?
This is getting very dangerous. We are now on the borderline of no longer living in a free society. We are now nearly no different to China.
Australia should be going in the opposite direction of relaxing and removing all covid rules, restrictions and vaccine mandates and requirements, etc, and moving on in life as a free and open society.
“We are now nearly no different to China.” Hardly.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia