COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
sypkan wrote:'fearful' ....pfffffffff.... the narrative!!!
how can you possibly justify this stok when the rest of the world is heading in the exact opposite direction?
even the looney liberal press in the US have given up...
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/end-coronavirus-restri...
the jig is up mate
this is not science
I think the democrats have realised they need the votes....
@sypkan why so quick to relate everything back to bipartisan US fuckery.
Blowin wrote:Naturally acquired immunity is not recognised by the Australian government.
Australian government does not recognise science.
“Naturally acquired immunity is not recognised by the Australian government.”
It needs to be taken into account…silly not to.
burleigh wrote:Stok, are you ok? This is the most sane thing I’ve read from you
Hah!
Nah I think I didn't make myself clear.
My point was this talk of endless boosters and restrictions is fearmongering.
You know, they're not planning on turning us into pin cushions, that's just in people's weird fantasies.
Stok wrote:bonza:
"Victoria and WA governments may continue to hold the line for their political purposes but those days are numbered."If you take a step back and think logically, it makes sense for VIC and WA to have a struxter take on covid.
VIC was hit hardest, had a tough time with states shutting their borders to them and couldn't escape the early paraiah image.
WA is a victim of its own successful management of covid.
They may take a bit longer, but both will get there in the end and drop all mandates/restrictions.
not true.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-09/new-omicron-modelling-released-y-...
there is no justification to continue the restrictions or mandates given the current science. you know this but your ideology prevents you from saying it.
risk/cost benefit stok.
there was contract between the public and the government to get through this. we give them our freedom they save lives. that ended about October last year. time to move on
protect the vulnerable. stop the mandates and restrictions. easy.
"@sypkan why so quick to relate everything back to bipartisan US fuckery."
because they are even more condescending and deranged than you...
if they know the jig is up... the jig is up...
besides, it's not just US, the UK and vast majority of europe are heading in the other direction
@Bonza nah you got me all wrong.
I'm a firm believer that when the time is right....we drop it all and move on.
I know that this 'time is right', won't be an overnight thing. There are multiple factors at play (yes, some political and not based directly on science).
I have no issues with a third shot being mandated. Until we kick this thing properly it's no use celebrating too early. 4th shot, or further, that's yet to be decided.
Unless the next variant turns out to be more serious, this will be over soon.
My main gripe with this thread has always been it's just been a cesspool for misinformation and flat out conspiracy nonsense.
@sypkan.
LOL the jig? Through your eyes, the world must look like a terrible sinister, but simplistic place.
You know not all countries are dropping all restrictions. Taiwan I know for one still requires everyone to quarantine for 14 days.
If it changes to "up to date" then there really was no need to rush out and get vaccinated 12 months ago. Although thats real easy to say in hindsight.
Stok wrote:@Bonza nah you got me all wrong.
I'm a firm believer that when the time is right....we drop it all and move on.
I know that this 'time is right', won't be an overnight thing. There are multiple factors at play (yes, some political and not based directly on science).
I have no issues with a third shot being mandated. Until we kick this thing properly it's no use celebrating too early. 4th shot, or further, that's yet to be decided.
Unless the next variant turns out to be more serious, this will be over soon.
My main gripe with this thread has always been it's just been a cesspool for misinformation and flat out conspiracy nonsense.
what are you even saying?
bonza wrote:Stok wrote:@Bonza nah you got me all wrong.
I'm a firm believer that when the time is right....we drop it all and move on.
I know that this 'time is right', won't be an overnight thing. There are multiple factors at play (yes, some political and not based directly on science).
I have no issues with a third shot being mandated. Until we kick this thing properly it's no use celebrating too early. 4th shot, or further, that's yet to be decided.
Unless the next variant turns out to be more serious, this will be over soon.
My main gripe with this thread has always been it's just been a cesspool for misinformation and flat out conspiracy nonsense.
what are you even saying?
he's saying strap yourself in
and suck it up...
we'll let the deplorable know when its time
and yes, we're not even pretending its about the science anymore...
(just between you and him)
stok 10 FEB 2022 at 8:15PM
"My point was this talk of endless boosters and restrictions is fearmongering.
stok 10 FEB 2022 at 8:32PM
"I have no issues with a third shot being mandated. Until we kick this thing properly it's no use celebrating too early. 4th shot, or further, that's yet to be decided."
at least hutch was funny. cockee are you there?
Yes Bonza.
Yet to be decided.
Not as GSCO put it 'This is getting very dangerous. We are now on the borderline of no longer living in a free society. We are now nearly no different to China.'
I don't see boosters and mandates lasting after this third shot if things continue to subside.
stok what makes you so sure? (im happy to be corrected but there is no mandate yet for a 3rd shot.. have you resigned yourself to that? and if so why?
bonza wrote:at least hutch was funny. cockee are you there?
What happened to hutchy?
eaten.
Qld delayed opening schools this year by 2 weeks as to give parents more time to get their kids vaccinated and to avoid the peak of covid transmissions. By the looks of this only 6000 + kids in the 5-11 have been jabbed once so far . Interesting link in that you can look at each state , just tap each state for vaccination statistics. 
huntington museum of art
. https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-updates-debate-o...
bonza wrote:stok what makes you so sure? (im happy to be corrected but there is no mandate yet for a 3rd shot.. have you resigned yourself to that? and if so why?
I see the benefit in having the resilience in the community from a third shot, so as I said I have no issues if it becomes mandated (this bed wetter has already had his). You're right there's no national mandate, but states can do what they decide - which just shows poor leadership and the general defunctness of the way our national gov has operated in conjunction with state govs throughout this pandemic.
As for further shots - I generally see that fearmongering is heavily used by anti gov types to drive more people to their cause. The whole premise of this is - 'they' have taken control and you won't ever get your freedom back. I'm a bit more optimistic, and dare I say realistic. The phrase "When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras” comes to mind. People are searching out for Zebras, when the obvious is staring them right in the face. This response to this pandemic is not an orchestrated narrative, rather a messy, rocky road filled with unknows, incompetence and cold hard lessons. So, I have no reason to believe that anyone has any real interest in making vaccines a forever thing. Maybe, maybe some of the big pharma companies would prefer a steady income stream of that manner, but there'd be too many eyes on them to make taking that risk worthwhile. They could pretty easily (and will pretty easily) capitalise on treatments and other things anyway.
Just in. Roll up those sleeves
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/fully-covid-vaccinated-two-doses-...
Anyone got anything to say about this
Hahaha
Hey mate are you up to date? Nah I’m overdue lol
What a farce, come in spinners.
Stok wrote:bonza wrote:stok what makes you so sure? (im happy to be corrected but there is no mandate yet for a 3rd shot.. have you resigned yourself to that? and if so why?
I see the benefit in having the resilience in the community from a third shot, so as I said I have no issues if it becomes mandated (this bed wetter has already had his). You're right there's no national mandate, but states can do what they decide - which just shows poor leadership and the general defunctness of the way our national gov has operated in conjunction with state govs throughout this pandemic.
As for further shots - I generally see that fearmongering is heavily used by anti gov types to drive more people to their cause. The whole premise of this is - 'they' have taken control and you won't ever get your freedom back. I'm a bit more optimistic, and dare I say realistic. The phrase "When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras” comes to mind. People are searching out for Zebras, when the obvious is staring them right in the face. This response to this pandemic is not an orchestrated narrative, rather a messy, rocky road filled with unknows, incompetence and cold hard lessons. So, I have no reason to believe that anyone has any real interest in making vaccines a forever thing. Maybe, maybe some of the big pharma companies would prefer a steady income stream of that manner, but there'd be too many eyes on them to make taking that risk worthwhile. They could pretty easily (and will pretty easily) capitalise on treatments and other things anyway.
You’d Jump off the harbour bridge if they told you too, blind following the blind that’s you.
That wouldn't happen floggo. Stay under that tin foil hat of yours.
Stok wrote:bonza wrote:stok what makes you so sure? (im happy to be corrected but there is no mandate yet for a 3rd shot.. have you resigned yourself to that? and if so why?
I see the benefit in having the resilience in the community from a third shot, so as I said I have no issues if it becomes mandated (this bed wetter has already had his). You're right there's no national mandate, but states can do what they decide - which just shows poor leadership and the general defunctness of the way our national gov has operated in conjunction with state govs throughout this pandemic.
As for further shots - I generally see that fearmongering is heavily used by anti gov types to drive more people to their cause. The whole premise of this is - 'they' have taken control and you won't ever get your freedom back. I'm a bit more optimistic, and dare I say realistic. The phrase "When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses, not zebras” comes to mind. People are searching out for Zebras, when the obvious is staring them right in the face. This response to this pandemic is not an orchestrated narrative, rather a messy, rocky road filled with unknows, incompetence and cold hard lessons. So, I have no reason to believe that anyone has any real interest in making vaccines a forever thing. Maybe, maybe some of the big pharma companies would prefer a steady income stream of that manner, but there'd be too many eyes on them to make taking that risk worthwhile. They could pretty easily (and will pretty easily) capitalise on treatments and other things anyway.
You’ve got from a sensible post to this…….
I thought we were going to be mates
It would booster boy
Supafreak wrote:Qld delayed opening schools this year by 2 weeks as to give parents more time to get their kids vaccinated and to avoid the peak of covid transmissions. By the looks of this only 6000 + kids in the 5-11 have been jabbed once so far . Interesting link in that you can look at each state , just tap each state for vaccination statistics.
huntington museum of art
. https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-updates-debate-o...
Good find. That’s 6000 to many kids.
burleigh wrote:Supafreak wrote:Qld delayed opening schools this year by 2 weeks as to give parents more time to get their kids vaccinated and to avoid the peak of covid transmissions. By the looks of this only 6000 + kids in the 5-11 have been jabbed once so far . Interesting link in that you can look at each state , just tap each state for vaccination statistics.
huntington museum of art
. https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-updates-debate-o...Good find. That’s 6000 to many kids.
Nationally hasn’t cracked 100,000 yet Two-thirds of Australians want all kids aged 5-11 to have the jab, but parents more cautious https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/two-thirds-of-australians-wan...
aaggh cant be bothered arguing with you stok. as I said earlier. you are doing it wrong. but good luck none the less.
burleigh wrote:You’ve got from a sensible post to this…….
I thought we were going to be mates
LOL
I actually have mates who have veered down a similar path to you. I'm still mates with them. A few went to the protests down here in Melbourne - I try to make it a point to not write off someone because we have conflicting beliefs. Works sometimes.
But - I don't become mates with bullies.....and that bed wetter talk is a STEP TOO FAR.
bonza wrote:aaggh cant be bothered arguing with you stok. as I said earlier. you are doing it wrong. but good luck none the less.
That's the spirit. Now don't ever post, or check in on this thread again*, you'll feel much better for it.
*not trying to sound threatening, genuine recommendation.
Dan luvs Anna's wannabe mandated Oz entry for Triple Vaxed terminators only.
Oz is Level 4 High Risk Red Listed & the whole world including Mutants are advised to keep well clear!
The 3rd Dose Mandate (UK Review) Lends a little (a lot) of insight!
Beginning of the End for Vax > 3.5m @ (300%) mark up Pfizer Vax to go in the Bin & Moderna is next.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10476167/UK-set-bin-3-5million-...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/08/pfizer-covid-vaccine-pi...
UK Health Data [+] Cases ( Consenting Adults 18+) 26th Dec > 30th Jan
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surve...
No Vax 285,948 > 231,750 (-19% infection)
UK Unvaxed = 30.8% but represent just 12.14% of cases (Mopping up 18.66% of Pfizer's slops)
Unvaxed been mopping up Pfizer's infections for months without UK / WHO thanking them just once.
UK Vaxed = 69.2% but represent 87.86% of cases (Spreading an extra 18.66% covid over unvaxed)
Vax is currently pushing out 37.32% extra covid above the Omicron strain. (Ok! So crew knew as much!)
Vax Breakdown has some further surprising *Jaw drops this week...
1 dose 13,425 > 8,567 (-36% infection)
Partial 87,535 > 67,205 (-23% infection)
2 dose 1,095,258 > *583,313 (-47% infection) 1/2 dose case drops are hitting records (2nd dose) Wow!
This need further examination as most would expect waning breakthrus. (There is a theory or two!)
Slow vax uptake signals 2nd Doserz rode out the Wane for Innate immunity + BT Natural immunity!
(vs) & or
Boosters 943,915 > 1,018,299 (+ 9% infection) this continues & still without a UK health warning!
UK Health Data [+] Deaths
No Vax 1,145 > 1,168 (+2%) Rise could be an anomaly from Aged Care Hot Booster spill over.
Unvaxed 30.8% represent just 18.2% of deaths (Unvaxed Saving 12.6% UK Covid deaths)
Vaxed 69.2% but represent 81.8% of deaths (Vax is currently adding 12.6% deaths to the Covid Toll)
Vaccine is causing 25.2% of extra UK Covid deaths than unvaccinated hesitants. {rip}
Breakdown of UK Vaxed Covid Deaths will clearly reveal which deadly group...(Crew already know!)
1 Dose 13 > 10 (-23%)
Partial 182 > 233 (+28%)
2 dose 1,836 > 2,054 (+11.9%)
(vs)
Boosters 1,509 > 2,956 ( +96%) Quintessential Big Pharma Vax is #1 Killer strain of Pandemic!
Vax Boosted 70+ seniors account for 53% of all UK Senior Covid deaths) Some sick cure that is!
Boosters account for 46% of all Covid deaths and will very soon be largest cause of all UK deaths.
It's horrid to state such, but you can't just blink it away as heartless Experts do.
There is no way any UK PM could continue with this sick VIP game show as the game is well & truly up!
Not so Expert Vax Data summary :
UK Paid Big Pharma a 300% mark up for current extra 37.32% Covid infections & 25.2% extra deaths.
40% of Vaxed NHS have Covid so Boris pulled the pin on the Vax sham to join the Northern Lights.
Unvaxed Vikings now roam Northern Europe & will soon conquer Central Europe.
Meanwhile! Oz Experts ban Lowest infected Covid nations
Oz Experts mandate the looping of leis over #1 infectious VIP Killer Mutants doing the Right Thing!
[NEWS]
Triple Vaxed nice Killer Mutants did the right thing by eating Oz Expert's shit for brains.
High Risk Red Level Hellhole of the Pacific Leaders dream up punishment levels for years to come...
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https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-statement-on-defining-up-to-date-st...
* Important News for all Vaxerz > "Booster Mandate is now Law!"
Media won't say so but crew can & should read it for yourselves!
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Police state Bullies laid out their Mandate for Vax Public / Private Policy AIR Rules.
Looks like they may be soon be mandating all Adult Vaccines... like as in Kidz Vax cards...
Yep! Already hinted at non Pharm rehab for obligated healthy societal compliance...re: Welfare card!
* Warranted Vax Auto prompts the Vaxer [ Due Date ] > [ Up 2 Date ] > ([{ OVERDUE }]) Press Panic!
[ Overdue ] have their Fully Vax Status Auto wiped and are classed as something worse than unvaxed!
*Oz Govt : "Being [Overdue] means you will not be able to generate a current Digi Covid -19 Vax Cert!"
In other words you take yer Auto timed Booster or lose yer QR touch'n'go thingy & Yer Wife & Job!
tbb gives a shout out to Big Tech & conspiracy nut jobs...claiming Oz was shaming China social credit.
Govts will now hunt you down for yer next Vax & Auto ban you from the Pub & Work....just like China!
Can read more here....
No mention if a bumped [Overdue] Fully Vaxer goes back to Start to Vax all over again...(It don't say!)
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/cer...
tbb only knows that [ Overdue ] are like boat people, better start digging to China for yer freedom...
The Jam : Going Underground
If anyone's awake, this is a live stream from Ottawa.
It's indisputable that it's a loving, peaceful protest for freedom.
Any outlets that attempt to paint it as anything other than that shouldn't be trusted.
Turns out the revolution, will, be televised.
stok still trying to flog the dead horse of your stupid choices.
the gigs up loser.
just need governmental cock strokers like you to admit you got stooged.
stok have you got your booster yet ?
I hope you've also booked in for your omnicon specific booster in April, cos it really makes sense getting this booster that is useless on omnicon.
don't forget the kiddies. whack the bejesus outa those germ riddled pesky goblins.
bluediamond wrote:Turns out the revolution, will, be televised.
So Trudeau called in the tow trucks to tow away the protest trucks and the tow trucks joined the protests.
Then he banned jerry cans for people bringing fuel for truckers, so protesters all started carrying jerry cans and the cops now run around confiscating empty jerry cans.
Then he banned honking horns in support of truckers, so the cops are out arresting granpas for honking horns.
Now Ottawa cops are just calling in sick, taking leave or simply quitting the force for good.
When the covoy rolled into town, Trudeau ran and hid after a sudden covid exposure .
When taken to task in parliament, booed and heckled, he walked out and ran and hid again.
GOFUNDME rebranded itself GOFUCKME and relegated itself to the scrap heap of history after trying to confiscate truckers support donations.
Meanwhile, the UK will ditch the whole covid shit show next month and the rest of the world will follow or be left looking like complete dick wads / stok & Co.
Don’t forget it’s only a fringe minority group that has been already defeated and has packed up and gone home….,,,,,apparently ……..,hard facts according to our resident authority on anything and everything.
So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
well it's only 2 whacks to come in so doubt that
Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Probably.
you'd have to be a puppet to get the billy booster now
Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Probably.
so you think its ok for tourists coming in only need 2 whacks but Aussies need 3 to leave?
Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Probably.
so you think its ok for tourists coming in only need 2 whacks but Aussies need 3 to leave?
Roadkill doesn’t think for himself. He will wait for clot Morrison to tell him what’s right
Yep 1,2,3.... 4. 5 even.. Who knows. But we know they contracted enough juice for at least 10 shots per person in Oz. The missus and 2 other mums left this AM for Canberra in a convoy of several other cars largely dominated by women I gotta say. The divine feminine spirit standing up. Sounds like crew going from everywhere.. Requesting the Governor General to dissolve the Govt. Be interesting if it even gets a mention on the mainstream media. But like Trudeau, its coming for em one way or another and they know it.
Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Probably.
so you think its ok for tourists coming in only need 2 whacks but Aussies need 3 to leave?
that actually makes sense to some dumb cunts.
They think it's fantastic.
As for ATAGI... the same dumb cunts will be lining up for every next great booster like it's a new iPhone. They need to start wearing the pFizzer loylaty card like a name badge.
Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Probably.
so you think its ok for tourists coming in only need 2 whacks but Aussies need 3 to leave?
Aussies leaving require the amount of shots required to enter any country. That is the decision of the destination.
Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Supafreak wrote:So with ATAGI changing what fully vaccinated means to “ up to date “ does this mean you can only get on a international flight leaving Australia if you’re “ up to date “ and what else will we be banned from or entering unless we are “ up to date “ ?
Probably.
so you think its ok for tourists coming in only need 2 whacks but Aussies need 3 to leave?
Aussies leaving require the amount of shots required to enter any country. That is the decision of the destination.
But according to our mighty CHOs, Premiers and the fucking boss of fizzer two shots does nothing
So why not let the pure bloods travel?
Qantas made the decision to only allow fully vaccinated ( 2 doses ) unless you had an exemption before governments had mentioned it . So Qantas can decide if , unless “you’re up to date “ you can’t board the flight. What other countries require doesn’t really count, it’s what Alan Joyce decides. I’m guessing the government doesn’t want to be seen as making it mandatory and will simply let business be the bad guys.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia