COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Hey Anti Vaxxers, Is this fake news? Any cause for concern?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/tsunami-of-covid-australian-doctors-gra...maybe they shouldn't of mandated the jab and sacked 1000's of nurse/dr's.
But is it cause for concern? Or fake dramatics from some Dr?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/data-appears-to-support-cl...
But it cause for concern? Or no worries it is what it is?
If your asking if the hospitals will be full of obese and the elderly people with other issues sure.
Why are you worried? I would be more worried if I was conned into a vaccine that doesn't even work.
well it effects, new cancer diagnosis, chronic disease management, exploratory surgery for a heap of things, peadeatric care, ED care with accidents the list goes on.
It is not the obese or elderly only that are effected.
I guess you miss the bigger picture.You’re blaming people that didn’t get the vax for this? Haha
You’re red hot mate. Blame your shit vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, blame the government, blame MsM for putting the fear into everyone listening.
I'm not attributing blame anywhere...hospitals reaching capacity, is what it is. I was just asking if you anti vaxx crew have any concerns for the people in other depts or with other issues that are being effected?
Listenign to QLD press conference, they are now requesting if you have mild symptoms to stay at home and not get tested. haha WOW
They have made their bed with putting FEAR into everyone to get the vaccine now they are reaping what they sowed.
People calling 000 with mild symptoms is on THEM & MSM
Comparing Australian data to random other countries makes no sense. The Australian data on hospitalisations and ICU cases, which is easily found demonstrates that the vaccines work.
I have no knowledge of Tanzania and there is very little data available beyond the raw case numbers which tell us very little without testing rates. Why not have trust in the health professionals rather than go digging through data that might be meaningless or confounded by numerous variables which are not explained? The old cliche that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing is confirmed numerous times a day in these forums.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Hey Anti Vaxxers, Is this fake news? Any cause for concern?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/tsunami-of-covid-australian-doctors-gra...maybe they shouldn't of mandated the jab and sacked 1000's of nurse/dr's.
But is it cause for concern? Or fake dramatics from some Dr?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/data-appears-to-support-cl...
But it cause for concern? Or no worries it is what it is?
If your asking if the hospitals will be full of obese and the elderly people with other issues sure.
Why are you worried? I would be more worried if I was conned into a vaccine that doesn't even work.
well it effects, new cancer diagnosis, chronic disease management, exploratory surgery for a heap of things, peadeatric care, ED care with accidents the list goes on.
It is not the obese or elderly only that are effected.
I guess you miss the bigger picture.You’re blaming people that didn’t get the vax for this? Haha
You’re red hot mate. Blame your shit vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, blame the government, blame MsM for putting the fear into everyone listening.I'm not attributing blame anywhere...hospitals reaching capacity, is what it is. I was just asking if you anti vaxx crew have any concerns for the people in other depts or with other issues that are being effected?
No. I blame Government & MSM 100% for the fear they have put into every single person listening, they have people so scared of the cold that they are clogging up testing, Ambulance & emergency with mild symptoms. That's on them
blindboy wrote:Comparing Australian data to random other countries makes no sense. The Australian data on hospitalisations and ICU cases, which is easily found demonstrates that the vaccines work.
I have no knowledge of Tanzania and there is very little data available beyond the raw case numbers which tell us very little without testing rates. Why not have trust in the health professionals rather than go digging through data that might be meaningless or confounded by numerous variables which are not explained.
Vaccines don't work. We were told they stop transmission and to get it to protect the community. They dont.
You've been sold a lemon, and not one you can make lemonade with.
Imagine buying a car, but only two wheels work. Then defending the car sales person saying it was the best he knew and the car still half works.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Hey Anti Vaxxers, Is this fake news? Any cause for concern?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/tsunami-of-covid-australian-doctors-gra...maybe they shouldn't of mandated the jab and sacked 1000's of nurse/dr's.
But is it cause for concern? Or fake dramatics from some Dr?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/data-appears-to-support-cl...
But it cause for concern? Or no worries it is what it is?
If your asking if the hospitals will be full of obese and the elderly people with other issues sure.
Why are you worried? I would be more worried if I was conned into a vaccine that doesn't even work.
well it effects, new cancer diagnosis, chronic disease management, exploratory surgery for a heap of things, peadeatric care, ED care with accidents the list goes on.
It is not the obese or elderly only that are effected.
I guess you miss the bigger picture.You’re blaming people that didn’t get the vax for this? Haha
You’re red hot mate. Blame your shit vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, blame the government, blame MsM for putting the fear into everyone listening.I'm not attributing blame anywhere...hospitals reaching capacity, is what it is. I was just asking if you anti vaxx crew have any concerns for the people in other depts or with other issues that are being effected?
No. I blame Government & MSM 100% for the fear they have put into every single person listening, they have people so scared of the cold that they are clogging up testing, Ambulance & emergency with mild symptoms. That's on them
so zero fucks given? zero concern for our hospital staff. Who would still treat your kids...yet you don't give a fuck about them.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Hey Anti Vaxxers, Is this fake news? Any cause for concern?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/tsunami-of-covid-australian-doctors-gra...maybe they shouldn't of mandated the jab and sacked 1000's of nurse/dr's.
But is it cause for concern? Or fake dramatics from some Dr?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/data-appears-to-support-cl...
But it cause for concern? Or no worries it is what it is?
If your asking if the hospitals will be full of obese and the elderly people with other issues sure.
Why are you worried? I would be more worried if I was conned into a vaccine that doesn't even work.
well it effects, new cancer diagnosis, chronic disease management, exploratory surgery for a heap of things, peadeatric care, ED care with accidents the list goes on.
It is not the obese or elderly only that are effected.
I guess you miss the bigger picture.You’re blaming people that didn’t get the vax for this? Haha
You’re red hot mate. Blame your shit vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, blame the government, blame MsM for putting the fear into everyone listening.I'm not attributing blame anywhere...hospitals reaching capacity, is what it is. I was just asking if you anti vaxx crew have any concerns for the people in other depts or with other issues that are being effected?
No. I blame Government & MSM 100% for the fear they have put into every single person listening, they have people so scared of the cold that they are clogging up testing, Ambulance & emergency with mild symptoms. That's on them
so zero fucks given? zero concern for our hospital staff. Who would still treat your kids...yet you don't give a fuck about them.
Me being vaccinated isnt going to help the problem that MSM & government has caused.
Ive got lots of fucks to give, but i didnt create this issue.
burleigh I am sure you are a fantastic surfer ...... but you are a terrible epidemiologist. Maybe play to your strengths.
blindboy said “ Why not have trust in the health professionals “ maybe because their information hasn’t always been reliable ? From don’t wear a mask because you may touch your face too much to wear a mask outdoors on a deserted beach , then there’s this classic ,
“Here in Australia, we do not have that emergency that they have in the U.S.,” said Dr. Paul Kelly, acting chief medical officer. “The other thing that is different here in Australia is we have a very large and deliberately expanded laboratory network using the gold standard of PCR (polymerase chain reaction) testing. We have plenty of capacity there.” they have been consistent in confusing everyone and you say “ why not just trust the health professionals “ ?
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Hey Anti Vaxxers, Is this fake news? Any cause for concern?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/tsunami-of-covid-australian-doctors-gra...maybe they shouldn't of mandated the jab and sacked 1000's of nurse/dr's.
But is it cause for concern? Or fake dramatics from some Dr?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/data-appears-to-support-cl...
But it cause for concern? Or no worries it is what it is?
If your asking if the hospitals will be full of obese and the elderly people with other issues sure.
Why are you worried? I would be more worried if I was conned into a vaccine that doesn't even work.
well it effects, new cancer diagnosis, chronic disease management, exploratory surgery for a heap of things, peadeatric care, ED care with accidents the list goes on.
It is not the obese or elderly only that are effected.
I guess you miss the bigger picture.You’re blaming people that didn’t get the vax for this? Haha
You’re red hot mate. Blame your shit vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, blame the government, blame MsM for putting the fear into everyone listening.I'm not attributing blame anywhere...hospitals reaching capacity, is what it is. I was just asking if you anti vaxx crew have any concerns for the people in other depts or with other issues that are being effected?
No. I blame Government & MSM 100% for the fear they have put into every single person listening, they have people so scared of the cold that they are clogging up testing, Ambulance & emergency with mild symptoms. That's on them
so zero fucks given? zero concern for our hospital staff. Who would still treat your kids...yet you don't give a fuck about them.
Me being vaccinated isnt going to help the problem that MSM & government has caused.
Ive got lots of fucks to give, but i didnt create this issue.
No one said you created the issue. The issue is however real, I was just asking if that real issue concerns you.
But...you go off all triggered.
blindboy wrote:burleigh I am sure you are a fantastic surfer ...... but you are a terrible epidemiologist. Maybe play to your strengths.
So you're 100% happy with the experts still claiming get vaccinated or boosted to protect the community? Or do you think they should change the narrative?
35K + cases in NSW alone today that have been tested + many more that haven't been bothered to get tested.
17K in Victoria.
Yet the Experts & premiers are still saying get boosted to protect the community. It's not right.
Edit: very average surfer
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Hey Anti Vaxxers, Is this fake news? Any cause for concern?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/tsunami-of-covid-australian-doctors-gra...maybe they shouldn't of mandated the jab and sacked 1000's of nurse/dr's.
But is it cause for concern? Or fake dramatics from some Dr?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/data-appears-to-support-cl...
But it cause for concern? Or no worries it is what it is?
If your asking if the hospitals will be full of obese and the elderly people with other issues sure.
Why are you worried? I would be more worried if I was conned into a vaccine that doesn't even work.
well it effects, new cancer diagnosis, chronic disease management, exploratory surgery for a heap of things, peadeatric care, ED care with accidents the list goes on.
It is not the obese or elderly only that are effected.
I guess you miss the bigger picture.You’re blaming people that didn’t get the vax for this? Haha
You’re red hot mate. Blame your shit vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, blame the government, blame MsM for putting the fear into everyone listening.
How is my post blaming people that didn’t get the vax?
burleigh wrote:Listenign to QLD press conference, they are now requesting if you have mild symptoms to stay at home and not get tested. haha WOW
They have made their bed with putting FEAR into everyone to get the vaccine now they are reaping what they sowed.
People calling 000 with mild symptoms is on THEM & MSM
Better late than never. The public service is not known for its efficiency. That's not a slur on the public service; sometimes its better to wait. Always easier to criticise in hindsight; a big part of me wants to believe our leaders know what they are doing; not for my sake but for the sake of anyone who needs to be told what to do.
This couldnt get more ridiculous could it:
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/covid-outbreak-at-remote-antarctic-s...
ok - I'm outta here, too much vax porn today.
burleigh this is a good summary of current vaccine effectiveness. So yes boosters reduce the risk of infection and also if infection occurs, of serious disease. This information has been widely publicised. What about it causes you concern?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/omicron-chart-prote...
BB, it was hardly random. Your article cited three countries, Afghanistan, Tanzania and PNG in It's comparison to wealthy countries vax rates. I chose to look at Tanzania as it's arguably the most stable of the three.
When looking at it from numbers of deaths that is what made me question the article you provided. I thought the author skipped through that too quickly and was worthy of further exploration because to me, the low number of covid deaths in a virtually unvaxxed population is in stark contrast to a highly vaxxed population such as Australia, the US and the UK.
And as for Japan which thankfully avoids all the hysterical MSM click baiting that I'm reading back home- after a huge surge post olympics (no correlation there ha ha) daily cases have plummeted to be almost insignificant in a nation of 125 million peeps. Yesterday, nationwide I think 400 cases, one death and less than a handful hospitalised classed as severe. Japan vax rate is at about 75% in one of the most densely populated countries on earth. Again, it doesn't compute.
Ps- I enjoyed your writing back in the day.
zenagain wrote:BB, it was hardly random. Your article cited three countries, Afghanistan, Tanzania and PNG in It's comparison to wealthy countries vax rates. I chose to look at Tanzania as it's arguably the most stable of the three.
When looking at it from numbers of deaths that is what made me question the article you provided. I thought the author skipped through that too quickly and was worthy of further exploration because to me, the low number of covid deaths in a virtually unvaxxed population is in stark contrast to a highly vaxxed population such as Australia, the US and the UK.
And as for Japan which thankfully avoids all the hysterical MSM click baiting that I'm reading back home- after a huge surge post olympics (no correlation there ha ha) daily cases have plummeted to be almost insignificant in a nation of 125 million peeps. Yesterday, nationwide I think 400 cases, one death and less than a handful hospitalised classed as severe. Japan vax rate is at about 75% in one of the most densely populated countries on earth. Again, it doesn't compute.
Ps- I enjoyed your writing back in the day.
Japan . Hard to fathom why so low.
blindboy wrote:burleigh this is a good summary of current vaccine effectiveness. So yes boosters reduce the risk of infection and also if infection occurs, of serious disease. This information has been widely publicised. What about it causes you concern?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/omicron-chart-prote...
I’m really surprised you put this link up blindboy. these stats are for all vaccines combined. There are other sources saying that after 24 weeks AZ has zero efficacy. Your link would give the elderly a false sense of security. So even if they get a booster of Pfizer that would be 1 dose and by your link 52% efficacy. I have seen other reports say a Pfizer after AZ would give 70% efficacy. Why would you use a all vaccines combined as a guide? And isn’t this a US study ? AZ wasn’t used in the US Edit ok the study was from the UK , still not a very good example .
blindboy wrote:burleigh this is a good summary of current vaccine effectiveness. So yes boosters reduce the risk of infection and also if infection occurs, of serious disease. This information has been widely publicised. What about it causes you concern?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/omicron-chart-prote...
This.
"It is not clear how long booster protection will last. The UKHSA previously reported that protection against symptomatic disease dropped after 10 weeks —from 70% to 45% — after a Pfizer booster among those who had already taken two Pfizer doses".
By next Oz winter, the third dose will be as much use as a pregnant pole vaulter.
Israel is going for four.
Is ADE a possibility? A new variant? Another shambolic rollout of another vaccine?
Etc etc.
If you have more detailed sources put them up. I was responding to burleigh's claims and didn't want to confuse him.
blindboy has been busted lol
blindboy wrote:If you have more detailed sources put them up. I was responding to burleigh's claims and didn't want to confuse him.
Doesn’t stack up against the current numbers though.
And very likely sponsored by some big pharma giant.
zen my understanding is that there are no reliable death stats from Tanzania for all causes let alone specific covid data. And as I asked before, why speculate about these issues and raise doubts when the big picture is crystal clear...vaccines reduce infections and hospitalisations and yes it would be nice if we didn't need boosters but thecrelity is thst we do.
As far as Japan goes I think there is much greater social cohesion there as well as a tradition of mask use leading to greater use of social distancing and other measures, even when not mandated.
blindboy wrote:zen my understanding is that there are no reliable death stats from Tanzania for all causes let alone specific covid data. And as I asked before, why speculate about these issues and raise doubts when the big picture is crystal clear...vaccines reduce infections and hospitalisations and yes it would be nice if we didn't need boosters but thecrelity is thst we do.
As far as Japan goes I think there is much greater social cohesion there as well as a tradition of mask use leading to greater use of social distancing and other measures, even when not mandated.
With SO many infections happening. When does natural immunity come into play?
Or that not happening because they can’t make money off that?
Boosters $$$
burleigh in terms of numbers we are pretty much where most epidemiologists predicted once the frequency of omicron breakthrough infections and the way we would open up were known. Governments were told infections would rise sharply after the Xmas New Year period if they opened up before. They made a politically based decision to do so and we will find out over the next couple of weeks what the consequences of that will be. Let's all hope for the best.
Natural.immu ity is not 100% effective against omicron. Probably similar to double vax protection.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/omicron-larg...
Here ya go blindboy, there’s plenty of different sources and they don’t all necessarily say the same , confusion rules . https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/96412
Hey anti-vax / covid is a hoax idiots.
35,000 cases in NSW today. That translates to another 350 patients presenting to hospitals, that are already overloaded with covid. Now those 35000 will no doubt take out plenty of nurses and doctors who are close contacts.
How good's letting it rip folks? Especially when Australia is being governed by a monstrously incompetent bunch of dogs who put the interest's of RAT price gougers ahead of public health.
"They made a politically based decision to do so and we will find out over the next couple of weeks what the consequences of that will be."
I think that the political fallout will be substantial - amongst the hundreds of people I talk to everyday, Scomo and Perrotet are totally on the nose, held in total contempt.
"Australia is being governed by a monstrously incompetent bunch of dogs who put the interest's of RAT price gougers ahead of public health."
That's about the extent of it, and they've know that this was coming for at least four months.
Vic Local wrote:Hey anti-vax / covid is a hoax idiots.
35,000 cases in NSW today. That translates to another 350 patients presenting to hospitals, that are already overloaded with covid. Now those 35000 will no doubt take out plenty of nurses and doctors who are close contacts.
How good's letting it rip folks? Especially when Australia is being governed by a monstrously incompetent bunch of dogs who put the interest's of RAT price gougers ahead of public health.
I don’t believe Covid is a hoax I believe the government beat up and MSM fear is the hoax.
95% of NSW double vaccinated and you’re still trying to blame unvaxxed?
Blame the shit Vax, blame the shit government, blame MSM.
It’s fucking comical that you would blame us that we’re not willing to get jabbed with an experiment to protect “the community”
Vic Local wrote:Hey anti-vax / covid is a hoax idiots.
35,000 cases in NSW today. That translates to another 350 patients presenting to hospitals, that are already overloaded with covid. Now those 35000 will no doubt take out plenty of nurses and doctors who are close contacts.
How good's letting it rip folks? Especially when Australia is being governed by a monstrously incompetent bunch of dogs who put the interest's of RAT price gougers ahead of public health.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=350199670250468&set=a.2150713604299...
Macron just said he doesn’t consider the unvaccinated as French citizens.
Have you ever heard a more hate and division inciting statement by a leader from the developed world ?
I can’t remember one
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Hey Anti Vaxxers, Is this fake news? Any cause for concern?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/tsunami-of-covid-australian-doctors-gra...maybe they shouldn't of mandated the jab and sacked 1000's of nurse/dr's.
But is it cause for concern? Or fake dramatics from some Dr?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/data-appears-to-support-cl...
But it cause for concern? Or no worries it is what it is?
If your asking if the hospitals will be full of obese and the elderly people with other issues sure.
Why are you worried? I would be more worried if I was conned into a vaccine that doesn't even work.
well it effects, new cancer diagnosis, chronic disease management, exploratory surgery for a heap of things, peadeatric care, ED care with accidents the list goes on.
It is not the obese or elderly only that are effected.
I guess you miss the bigger picture.You’re blaming people that didn’t get the vax for this? Haha
You’re red hot mate. Blame your shit vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, blame the government, blame MsM for putting the fear into everyone listening.I'm not attributing blame anywhere...hospitals reaching capacity, is what it is. I was just asking if you anti vaxx crew have any concerns for the people in other depts or with other issues that are being effected?
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=350199670250468&set=a.2150713604299...
supa, good luck for a quick complete recovery and getting back in the water asap. The truth on vaccination is that we are making the best of a bad deal from the virus. It's a shit fight and looking like staying that way for a while. Boosters are less effective than we might have hoped but they can provide the vulnerable parts of the community with protection during the peak of this wave. We have dodged a bullet with omicron being so mild and our high vaccination rate and can feel hopeful that no worse variants will emerge.....but it would be foolish to assume so.
blindboy wrote:Comparing Australian data to random other countries makes no sense. The Australian data on hospitalisations and ICU cases, which is easily found demonstrates that the vaccines work.
I have no knowledge of Tanzania and there is very little data available beyond the raw case numbers which tell us very little without testing rates. Why not have trust in the health professionals rather than go digging through data that might be meaningless or confounded by numerous variables which are not explained? The old cliche that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing is confirmed numerous times a day in these forums.
And you are the king of that
"95% of NSW double vaccinated and you’re still trying to blame unvaxxed?"
Well fuck yeah I'm pointing the finger at the idiot anti-vaxxers. They are massively over-represented in our hospitals.
the vax isn't perfect. It's good, but you are actually too stupid to realise that taking a good vaccine is a shit load better than taking none at all.
blindboy wrote:supa, good luck for a quick complete recovery and getting back in the water asap. The truth on vaccination is that we are making the best of a bad deal from the virus. It's a shit fight and looking like staying that way for a while. Boosters are less effective than we might have hoped but they can provide the vulnerable parts of the community with protection during the peak of this wave. We have dodged a bullet with omicron being so mild and our high vaccination rate and can feel hopeful that no worse variants will emerge.....but it would be foolish to assume so.
Omicron is looking to be less virulent then delta everyday so hopefully it takes over from delta soon . I took my mum for her booster yesterday, at tweed vax clinic they can do 390 a day. I had her booked for Moderna 3 weeks ago with a pharmacist at John Flynn hospital who rang yesterday to cancel appointment as they were out of stock but could rebook her in 2 weeks . I was a tad pissed off but the nurses at tweed mall slipped us in . I’m all for boosting the elderly and vulnerable but totally against mandates and passports . Thanks for wishing me well and I should be ok , just being cautious at the moment . With AF my heart might go from 50 to 140 , most of the time it’s normal but the svt episode of 220 was a bit frightening .
Vic Local wrote:"95% of NSW double vaccinated and you’re still trying to blame unvaxxed?"
Well fuck yeah I'm pointing the finger at the idiot anti-vaxxers. They are massively over-represented in our hospitals.
the vax isn't perfect. It's good, but you are actually too stupid to realise that taking a good vaccine is a shit load better than taking none at all.
Roughly 30 unvaccinated in ICU in Victoria.
None of those in hospital are healthy people. Being healthy is the best resistance to covid in the world. But politicians don’t get kickbacks for mandating good health.
"None of those in hospital are healthy people."
Haha ha special subject ....the bleeding obvious!
Hmmm................
Under ATAGI guidelines, people with a vaccination exemption are subject to the same restrictions as people who are vaccinated.
That means Djokovic will be free to attend restaurants, events, and venues in the same way a person who has been fully vaccinated is.
He will also not be required to undergo quarantine upon arrival into the country.
Blowin wrote:Vic Local wrote:"95% of NSW double vaccinated and you’re still trying to blame unvaxxed?"
Well fuck yeah I'm pointing the finger at the idiot anti-vaxxers. They are massively over-represented in our hospitals.
the vax isn't perfect. It's good, but you are actually too stupid to realise that taking a good vaccine is a shit load better than taking none at all.Roughly 30 unvaccinated in ICU in Victoria.
None of those in hospital are healthy people. Being healthy is the best resistance to covid in the world. But politicians don’t get kickbacks for mandating good health.
How do you know none in hospitals are healthy?
You really are scraping the bottom of the cesspit you dwell, in to post your bs now, snowflake.
Isn't the Novak Djokovic thing just a standard publicity and media stunt by a major sporting body to advertise and generate increased exposure of an upcoming sporting event?
Vic Local wrote:Hey anti-vax / covid is a hoax idiots.
35,000 cases in NSW today. That translates to another 350 patients presenting to hospitals, that are already overloaded with covid. Now those 35000 will no doubt take out plenty of nurses and doctors who are close contacts.
How good's letting it rip folks? Especially when Australia is being governed by a monstrously incompetent bunch of dogs who put the interest's of RAT price gougers ahead of public health.
drama queen is back, guess you won't be going to the AO incase djoka gets some sweat on you lol
gsco wrote:Isn't the Novak Djokovic thing just a standard publicity and media stunt by a major sporting body to advertise and generate increased exposure of an upcoming sporting event?
People should be more concerned on the vulnerable and elderly in poorer nations not receiving their first dose instead of losing their shit over a healthy 34 year old who’s covid recovered .
Blowin wrote:Macron just said he doesn’t consider the unvaccinated as French citizens.
Have you ever heard a more hate and division inciting statement by a leader from the developed world ?
I can’t remember one
Don't blame him. No reason to be unvaccinated unless you have a genuine condition that prevents it from being safe.
The unvaccinated by choice are selfish to the very core.
Robo wrote:Vic Local wrote:Hey anti-vax / covid is a hoax idiots.
35,000 cases in NSW today. That translates to another 350 patients presenting to hospitals, that are already overloaded with covid. Now those 35000 will no doubt take out plenty of nurses and doctors who are close contacts.
How good's letting it rip folks? Especially when Australia is being governed by a monstrously incompetent bunch of dogs who put the interest's of RAT price gougers ahead of public health.drama queen is back, guess you won't be going to the AO incase djoka gets some sweat on you lol
Well aren't you a complete fuckwit robo. Have you not been paying attention to what the doctors and nurses are saying? The hospital system is fucked, contract tracing is non-existent, it's very fucking hard to get a covid test, and NSW just got another 35,000 cases yesterday.
But you obviously don't think it's a problem. Yes, you are a complete moron.
blindboy wrote:"None of those in hospital are healthy people."
Haha ha special subject ....the bleeding obvious!
On the contrary. Hospitalisation statistics have been used as a gaslighting technique for the past two years. The inference was always that anyone might be struck down and hospitalised by the virus. Reality has shown this to be an utter falsehood. It’s extremely rare for anyone who’s health is not previously under duress by either old age, obesity or chronic disease to be hospitalised with covid. Statistics show this to be unambiguously true to the point that the average covid death is preceded by 3.5 comorbidities.
There has never been a hint of messaging over the past two years which tries to explain that it is almost exclusively the existing ill of health who are hospitalised if they contract covid.
To claim otherwise is to perpetuate the lie.
Now ask yourself why the government and media would deliberately set out to install a misinformed perspective amongst the population.
"Hospitalisation statistics have been used as a gaslighting technique for the past two years"
Oh blowin, when will you stop this absolute crap?
Three simple questions that I know you won't be answering.
1. Were's your proof this is happening?
2. Who is doing it?
3. Why the fuck would anyone inflate hospital stats. What exactly is the point of that?
You're fucked in the head blowin pushing these ridiculous conspiracy theories. Are you going to go through the rest of your life publishing your absolute bullshit day in day out?
Vic Local wrote:"Hospitalisation statistics have been used as a gaslighting technique for the past two years"
Oh blowin, when will you stop this absolute crap?
Three simple questions that I know you won't be answering.
1. Were's your proof this is happening?
2. Who is doing it?
3. Why the fuck would anyone inflate hospital stats. What exactly is the point of that?
You're fucked in the head blowin pushing these ridiculous conspiracy theories. Are you going to go through the rest of your life publishing your absolute bullshit day in day out?
Bit early for you today. Normally you don’t come out until after the 6pm news with a belly full of hate.
Also, have you been living under a rock regarding hospital numbers?
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia