COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Here's what Yale University actually published on March 2 2020.
https://yalehealth.yale.edu/covid-19-update-travel-yale-health-guidance-...
Blindboy doesn’t care that your child has more chance of reaction to the vaccine than covid.
He wants them jabbed with a toxic substance to allay his irrational fear.
...and this is what Fauci said on the same day
“Social distancing is not really geared to wait for a vaccine,” he said on March 2, 2020. “The major point is to prevent easy spread of infections in schools (closing them), crowded events such as theaters, stadiums (cancel events), work places (do teleworking where possible). States and localities make these decisions, not the Federal Government. The goal of social distancing is to prevent a single person who is infected to readily spread to several others, which is facilitated by close contact in crowds. Close proximity of people will keep the R0 higher than 1 and even as high as 2 to 3,” he continued. “If we can get the R0 to less than 1, the epidemic will gradually decline on its own without a vaccine”
The site below created this headline from that statement
"Fauci said COVID would “decline on its own” without a vaccine"
This is the worst possible level of journalism. Toxic dangerous bullshit manufactured by distorting expert opinion. Just the usual disgusting behaviour from our resident fuckwit in repeating it here.
Not to mention the appalling irresponsibility in running a web site that day after day all through the pandemic has tolerated, misinformation and toxic bullshit damaging to public health messaging. Great stuff eh Ben?
Not sure how long this will last 
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. https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/travel-restrictions/international-travel...
Supafreak wrote:Not sure how long this will last
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. https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/travel-restrictions/international-travel...
Insanity! It's almost like they believe they have covid under control in the state. haha
Also Mandatory 14 days for unvaccinated is also insane, seeming that the major spreaders of Covid are now the vaccinated.
The government has led people to believe that if youre vaccinated that your chance of catching covid is far less, this lie will continue with the spread of covid through the super spreading vaccinated as they mingle together thinking they are incredibly healthy while they sink piss in the pub.
What's really sad is there's so many fuckwits who couldn't care less about vulnerable people dying.
"They're old, they don't count"
"They've got a pre-existing condition, they don't count"
Bullshit.
Contracting covid is a life-and-death situation for these people. Catching covid will kill them, not catching it means they live until they're meant to die.
And now scummo the low-life is giving in to these anti-xxx idiots
blindboy wrote:...and this is what Fauci said on the same day
“Social distancing is not really geared to wait for a vaccine,” he said on March 2, 2020. “The major point is to prevent easy spread of infections in schools (closing them), crowded events such as theaters, stadiums (cancel events), work places (do teleworking where possible). States and localities make these decisions, not the Federal Government. The goal of social distancing is to prevent a single person who is infected to readily spread to several others, which is facilitated by close contact in crowds. Close proximity of people will keep the R0 higher than 1 and even as high as 2 to 3,” he continued. “If we can get the R0 to less than 1, the epidemic will gradually decline on its own without a vaccine”The site below created this headline from that statement
"Fauci said COVID would “decline on its own” without a vaccine"
This is the worst possible level of journalism. Toxic dangerous bullshit manufactured by distorting expert opinion. Just the usual disgusting behaviour from our resident fuckwit in repeating it here.
Not to mention the appalling irresponsibility in running a web site that day after day all through the pandemic has tolerated, misinformation and toxic bullshit damaging to public health messaging. Great stuff eh Ben?
Wrong bloke.
Maybe you could double down by repeating your lie that vaccines prevent hospitalisation to the tune of 90%?
Do it bloke…lie some more!
But yeah, good on you for highlighting more of Fauci’s lies there bloke.
Fauci: “ If we just lockdown for three days the vaccine will disappear “…..Lolol. How’s that working out bloke? Obviously they wouldn’t have such an incorrect, incompetent lying scumbag still in charge after he’s made two years worth of complete fuvkups after that original fucked up lie ?
Oh wait….
The virus will decline after we lockdown for three days….Nek Minute.
FFS.
Trust the science!
gragagan wrote:What's really sad is there's so many fuckwits who couldn't care less about vulnerable people dying.
"They're old, they don't count"
"They've got a pre-existing condition, they don't count"
Bullshit.
Contracting covid is a life-and-death situation for these people. Catching covid will kill them, not catching it means they live until they're meant to die.
And now scummo the low-life is giving in to these anti-xxx idiots
Yeah exactly.
Just like Roadkill a few posts back when he wrote off the death of a 26 year old in NZ from the vaccine as collateral damage.
gragagan wrote:What's really sad is there's so many fuckwits who couldn't care less about vulnerable people dying.
"They're old, they don't count"
"They've got a pre-existing condition, they don't count"
Bullshit.
Contracting covid is a life-and-death situation for these people. Catching covid will kill them, not catching it means they live until they're meant to die.
And now scummo the low-life is giving in to these anti-xxx idiots
But being vaccinated does NOT stop the spread. It never has, youve been lied to. Their best protection is for them to be vaccinated and to look after their own health (or have family members make that decision for them)
burleigh wrote:Supafreak wrote:Not sure how long this will last
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. https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/travel-restrictions/international-travel...Insanity! It's almost like they believe they have covid under control in the state. haha
Also Mandatory 14 days for unvaccinated is also insane, seeming that the major spreaders of Covid are now the vaccinated.
The government has led people to believe that if youre vaccinated that your chance of catching covid is far less, this lie will continue with the spread of covid through the super spreading vaccinated as they mingle together thinking they are incredibly healthy while they sink piss in the pub.
Unvaccinated are allowed into Australia but not out of Australia!
Anything to bring the millions of wage suppressing highly skilled Uber delivery technician coolies back in time to give the wage theft hospitality industry it’s “ best Christmas present ever”.
Anyway mate, you aren’t meant to remember the government’s lies from yesterday- only their lies from today!
burleigh wrote:gragagan wrote:What's really sad is there's so many fuckwits who couldn't care less about vulnerable people dying.
"They're old, they don't count"
"They've got a pre-existing condition, they don't count"
Bullshit.
Contracting covid is a life-and-death situation for these people. Catching covid will kill them, not catching it means they live until they're meant to die.
And now scummo the low-life is giving in to these anti-xxx idiotsBut being vaccinated does NOT stop the spread. It never has, youve been lied to. Their best protection is for them to be vaccinated and to look after their own health (or have family members make that decision for them)
Gragagan is about five lies behind.
Covid has gone meta!
NEW: First Omicron death in the U.S. was also a case of reinfection with COVID-19, officials say pic.twitter.com/QZwTQoLBun
— BNO News (@BNOFeed) December 21, 2021
shortenm wrote:Thanks Thermal. So am I paying for two subscriptions? Or can a subscriber have more than one account on this forum?
Only one has a subscription, the other is a free (unpaid) account.
@blindboy, do you believe the only misinformation has come from anti - vaxers ? Government and media have done their fair share of misleading the public. How do you expect SN to adjudicate everything posted ? Don’t take everything or everyone so seriously, people will make up their own minds regardless what is written in these forums. I understand your trying to protect what you believe. What did you do with students who didn’t want what you were trying to teach ?
https://m.
Give me an example supa. Most of those posted by the usual fuckwits don't stand up to much analysis. I think the media have spread misinformation as click bait. The government sources in Australia anyway, I believe have done their best to be accurate. SN are responsible for everything appearing on their site. To pretend otherwise is to promote unethical behaviour.
Supafreak wrote:@blindboy, do you believe the only misinformation has come from anti - vaxers ? Government and media have done their fair share of misleading the public. How do you expect SN to adjudicate everything posted ? Don’t take everything or everyone so seriously, people will make up their own minds regardless what is written in these forums. I understand your trying to protect what you believe. What did you do with students who didn’t want what you were trying to teach ?
it's a good question supafreak...
especially when targeted at the guy who has probably spread more misinformation, bullshit, and recycled outright lies than anyone else on this site...
anyone!
just because nyt publish a lie, it doesn't change the fact it is a lie
blindboy wrote:Give me an example supa. Most of those posted by the usual fuckwits don't stand up to much analysis. I think the media have spread misinformation as click bait. The government sources in Australia anyway, I believe have done their best to be accurate. SN are responsible for everything appearing on their site. To pretend otherwise is to promote unethical behaviour.
It would be a long list BB , think back to the beginning and what we were told by our best in the world health officials about masks . There has been a steady flow of confusion and flip flopping in my opinion .
supa you have to recognise that the understanding of the virus was far from instantaneous so it is understandable that the advice aboit it has changed. With further new variants probable and new vaccines in the works, advice will probably continue to change.
Reading these threads is a nice little insight into the behaviour you could expect if ( when?) Australia did turn into a proper authoritarian state.
You’d have the small minded little kings like Blindboy who are utterly convinced that their opinion is the only one that matters. You’ve only got to see how many times Blindboy has been proven wrong in his claims, only to have him pipe up with “I disproved that bullshit” claim a bit later despite having not even provided a rebuttal. He just assumes his self appointed authority is enough…..and that’s your definitive authoritarian fuckstik right there.
When he said the other day about Swellnet being guilty of something ( ?) because they allowed opinions about a trump which he didn’t agree with and when he then claimed his opinion was inarguable fact, you know that cunt is not right in the head.
I know the things I post are my opinions and I’ll defend them to the hilt until I change my mind. Blindboy truly believes his opinions are unalterable truth.
That’s fcuked up.
The thought of clowns like him controlling what you’re allowed to do, say and think are why everyone has to be on constant red alert for the authoritarian political movement these clowns truly believe they’re entitled to manage .
For the good of everyone of course. Lol.
"...at the heart of every censor lies hubris: the belief that they are so evolved, enlightened and superior that they have risen above the eternal human propensity to err, enabling them to ascertain universal truth whose validity is so unassailable that nobody should be permitted to question it let alone dissent from it...'
sounds familiar
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-real-disinformation-agents-watch
There is a difference between censorship and ethical publishing. Reputable publishers fact check before publication.
'fact check', 'ethical publishing' and 'reputable sources' you say...
you must be referring to the likes of the new york times, who did due diligence, and didn't send you down the russia 'rabbit hole'....
"...All that said, there is a core truth — an unintentional one — that lies at the crux of this elite war on "disinformation." It is absolutely true that U.S. political discourse is drowning in deliberate disinformation campaigns and lies. It is also true that this disinformation epidemic is a serious menace, a toxic plague on our democracy and society. That part they have right.
Where they have gone wrong — very, very wrong — is how they have identified the most harmful sources of this disinformation. It does not emanate primarily from Trump boomers on Facebook or dark web QAnon groups or mischievous and transgressive teenagers on 4Chan. Ordinary citizens are obviously as capable as anyone of believing and spreading false assertions. But the far more damaging, destructive, organized and coordinated disinformation campaigns come from major corporate media outlets themselves and their security-state partners — particularly the corporate outlets that most vocally and flamboyantly claim to be so profoundly concerned about disinformation that they want to censor the internet in the name of stopping it. They are the ones who spent the last five years flooding the country with demented CIA-constructed conspiracies about a Kremlin takeover of the U.S. using clandestine sexual blackmail over the president and hallucinating Russian agents hiding under every bed; so many fabrications were disseminated under the rubric of that fairy tale that it is genuinely hard to choose the worst.'
fuck you are funny
really really funny
or just flat out deranged as blowin suspects... which would just be a little sad...
Let's look at Blowie's efforts today. From an earlier post:
"Indeed on that same day, Fauci wrote to a Washington Post reporter: “The epidemic will gradually decline and stop on its own without a vaccine.”
What Fauci actually said
"Close proximity of people will keep the R0 higher than 1 and even as high as 2 to 3,” he continued. “If we can get the R0 to less than 1, the epidemic will gradually decline on its own without a vaccine”
By removing the last sentence, which is what was done, the entire meaning was changed. This is straight out of the propgandist's playbook since most people will not check the original statement. To use this kind of trick, or to tolerate its publication, during a pandemic is beneath contempt as it places the personal health of anyone believing it at risk.
Health knowledge in the community is unevenly spread so many people are vulnerable to this kind of anti-vaccination bullshit. It is particularly reprehensible when those pushing it have no real concern about the issue and clearly, since they are double vaxxed themselves, do not even believe it. They are either political actors of some low form or are so insecure and pathetic they obtain ego gratification from publishing contrary material and in the case of the worst offender here, sexual insults, abuse and incitement to violence as well as actual physical threats against those who disagree with him here as well as public figures (a gallows). But no doubt Swellchan will role on and the toxic crap here will remain a nice little earner for the owner.
"...since they are double vaxxed themselves, do not even believe it. They are either political actors of some low form or are so insecure and pathetic they obtain ego gratification from publishing contrary material and in the case of the worst offender here..."
or option 3
they were coerced into getting double vaxxed... and they think the whole government / big pharma 'cooperation' throughout this pandemic, has been a massive exercise in government overeach, cover ups, and corporate/billionaires takeover of government to name just a few things...
nothing sinister... just genuine concern...
you've really gotta stop looking for the worst in people to justify your ideological extremism
it's a disease
ironically
again...
"Close proximity of people will keep the R0 higher than 1 and even as high as 2 to 3,” he continued. “If we can get the R0 to less than 1, the epidemic will gradually decline on its own without a vaccine”
This has been proven to be false by the last two years of globally destructive and wasteful lockdowns. The virus did not decline when people were locked in their homes, the virus went on pause for a little while and then the virus returned as soon as life resumed. It purposely gave people the false idea that the problem would resolve with his three day lockdown. If he believed this himself he should be sacked, if he didn’t believe this himself he should be sacked and persecuted for destroying the lives of millions of individuals.
It is misinformation. It’s bullshit. It’s a lie and it was told in the first week of March 2020…..and you’re still perpetuating the lie.
You need to be put in the stocks for spreading lies and inciting fear.
@blindboy , the video I posted earlier had the CDC issuing a statement to the ABC media that on the 10th of December saying that in 5 million vaccines administered to children there were no cases for concern, the doctor doing the video then went and showed evidence of a CDC paper dated the10th of December as finding 14 cases of myocarditis. Is this misleading misinformation in your opinion ?
supa, the statement ON Dec 10 could not have included the data TO Dec 10, for the reason that it takes time to process. When the data was available they released it.
blindboy wrote:supa, the statement ON Dec 10 could not have included the data TO Dec 10, for the reason that it takes time to process. When the data was available they released it.
Watch the video , it reported to the ABC on the 10th , on the same date the CDC had a meeting with the reports. The paperwork is shown on the video with the dates . He also goes on to show they have screwed up how many people have actually been vaccinated in the US .
Unapologetic fear porn and scare mongering is unleashed
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/omicron-cases-could-hit-200-000-...
Omicron cases could hit 200,000 per day!!!!
10,000 hospitalisations per day!!!!!!
And then you read….
“The modelling also assumes that, in addition to being much more transmissible than the Delta variant, Omicron causes equally severe disease, stating that “all international modelling groups are using this conservative assumption”.
FFS.
Weather equivalent:
“We’ve modelled devastating cyclones hitting every part of the Australian coastline simultaneously. Millions to die! Modelling assumes that entire nation surrounded by 35 degree ocean temperatures”
Someone needs to go to gaol over this fear mongering.
Pravda is was fact check all story and fact to is protect peasant. Much happy readers.
All fact check by man in basement with use big Fact Book given from great leader.
Truth save much argue and read for peoples.
Current R number in Australia 1.6
https://epiforecasts.io/covid/posts/national/australia/
supa I will get back to that video but the first slide definitely said, "......as of Dec 10." and the meeting was Dec 16. I will watch the rest later but my guess at this stage is plausible bullshit that is a nice little earner on YouTube.
And we’re back to blowin demanding a respected scientist be put in stocks for the horrendous crime of making basic, factual mathematic statements that blowin doesn’t like.
The tin foil hat might be cutting off his circulation.
blindboy wrote:Current R number in Australia 1.6
https://epiforecasts.io/covid/posts/national/australia/
supa I will get back to that video but the first slide definitely said, "......as of Dec 10." and the meeting was Dec 16. I will watch the rest later but my guess at this stage is plausible bullshit that is a nice little earner on YouTube.
The paper was dated the 10th they had a meeting the day before, the 16th was when reports came out that there were 8 myocarditis cases . You can look up the associate professor who made the video, he is well known . https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ym4rwk0AAAAJ&hl=en
Vic Local wrote:And we’re back to blowin demanding a respected scientist be put in stocks for the horrendous crime of making basic, factual mathematic statements that blowin doesn’t like.
The tin foil hat might be cutting off his circulation.
Shouldn’t you be grifting tens of thousands of taxpayers dollars bloke?
Supafreak wrote:Not sure how long this will last
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. https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/travel-restrictions/international-travel...
Fascinating. I knew the PCR tests had its limitations, but now they don't work on the unvaccinated?
Or are we openly acknowledging now the "unclean" amongst us has shifted from being those with Covid-19 to those who have not been vaxed? An arbitrary 14 day stay as a guest of the state seems suitable chastisement for such delinquency.
9–potential future pandemic
7–lockdown line we should have drawn
5–COVID-19
3–the flu
1–common cold
With respect-
Discussions on covid which focus primarily upon death rates as a means of defining whatever position is being presented don't seem to cover the range of issues at stake.....the impact of long covid is another very important factor for mine and there doesn't appear to be a great deal of attention afforded the matter.
I found this modelling - and I am aware it is yet to be independently verified, so see that it is likely to be debunked by some on that basis - provided food for thought in regard to issues such as years of life lost, years living with a disability and permanent functional impairment....the impost of this upon the health system and those with non-covid illnesses is also of interest to me - the research (which is pre the advent of Omicron) can be found here https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1066181/v1 - there is also a briefing paper here for those interested in a read https://iht.deakin.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/153/2021/12/Briefing-...
I am sticking by what I said supa, I cannot see anything in that video that suggests the data. was available on Dec 10. He implies that because the data collection ended on the 9th she must have been aware of it on the 10th which makes no sense. Data does not get processed and travel up organisational hierarchies instantaneously. It needs to be analysed carefully beforehand. No-one is going to approve it going up the line until they are sure they have checked it.
He then goes on, without evidence to state that she is lying. In order to prove that her would have to have evidence that she knew the contents of the report on the 10th. If he has that evidence it is not in his video. A reasonable accusation might be that others in the organisation were aware of the data and knew it was valid but failed to make her aware of it. But old mate in the video is just another pandemic profiteer making a buck by spreading bullshit. Sounds a bit familiar.
Ok blindboy
Nah, the media don't lie. 250K daily. haha thats 1.4 million per week. We only have a population of 25 million, so in 2 months every single adult Australian will have had Covid?
Time to forget about any Doherty Modeling i think. UK with 67Million have just had a record day 90K in the middle of winter.
This shit is INSANE.
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/australias-will-reach-20...
Shouldn’t you be grifting tens of thousands of taxpayers dollars bloke?
That would be tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars that only exist in one place, blowin's wild imagination.
Stop making shit up blowin. The only people who believe your complete and utter bullshit blowin is the totally unhinged shortenism and the batshit crazy Burleigh.
@blindboy, I was just thinking, the doctor that made that video has really slipped . Hes gone from having articles published in just about every major medical journal to making BS videos on YouTube. Unbelievable what covid has done to some people to make them resort to making up BS to turn a buck . https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ym4rwk0AAAAJ&hl=en
Supafreak wrote:Ok blindboy
sometimes... that's all you can say...
but at the same, it says so much
Yeh supa, it's sad but at the moment you have to be cynical about any of these people on YouTube. The odds are pretty high against finding anything of value there.
blindboy wrote:Yeh supa, it's sad but at the moment you have to be cynical about any of these people on YouTube. The odds are pretty high against finding anything of value there.
Yes very unfortunate that Professor Petrovsky is on YouTube as MSM Australia doesn’t seem interested. I wonder why that is .
No idea on that one supa. There may be legitimate reasons but it is hard to see what they might be.
That doctor in the youtube video, on his google scholar page I count that he has 67 publications in 2021. That's more than 1 per wk. That's not humanly possible. It's not even humanly possible for someone to be even peripherally involved in 67 papers per year. There's something very wrong going on there.
At 250k cases per day, the Doherty Institute appears to have mistakenly added an extra 0 to Australia's population... The US's highest daily case number so far was about 300k.
Actually there seems to be a conflict of interest here. The Doherty Institute makes a significant amount of money from research grants, particularly for infectious disease modelling. So it seems not in their interest to publish research saying something along the lines of "covid isn't a problem, don't worry about it, we can put it behind us, you don't need to keep paying us millions of dollars per year in research grants to keep doing covid modelling and research..."
The whole system seems cooked.
gsco wrote:That doctor in the youtube video, on his google scholar page I count that he has 67 publications in 2021. That's more than 1 per wk. That's not humanly possible. It's not even humanly possible for someone to be even peripherally involved in 67 papers per year. There's something very wrong going on there.
At 250k cases per day, the Doherty Institute appears to have mistakenly added an extra 0 to Australia's population... The US's highest daily case number so far was about 300k.
Actually there seems to be a conflict of interest here. The Doherty Institute makes a significant amount of money from research grants, particularly for infectious disease modelling. So it seems not in their interest to publish research saying something along the lines of "covid isn't a problem, don't worry about it, we can put it behind us, you don't need to keep paying us millions of dollars per year in research grants to keep doing covid modelling and research..."
The whole system seems cooked.
@gsco , there’s plenty of information about the said doctor. https://profiles.ucsf.edu/vinayak.prasad. http://www.vinayakkprasad.com/news. Blindboy has outed him as just another you tube grifter.
gsco wrote:That doctor in the youtube video, on his google scholar page I count that he has 67 publications in 2021. That's more than 1 per wk. That's not humanly possible. It's not even humanly possible for someone to be even peripherally involved in 67 papers per year. There's something very wrong going on there.
At 250k cases per day, the Doherty Institute appears to have mistakenly added an extra 0 to Australia's population... The US's highest daily case number so far was about 300k.
Actually there seems to be a conflict of interest here. The Doherty Institute makes a significant amount of money from research grants, particularly for infectious disease modelling. So it seems not in their interest to publish research saying something along the lines of "covid isn't a problem, don't worry about it, we can put it behind us, you don't need to keep paying us millions of dollars per year in research grants to keep doing covid modelling and research..."
The whole system seems cooked.
can it really be that cooked?
some of the 'mistakes' from various institutions and interests throughout this pandemic seem so monumental in their stupidity, one cannot imagine a professional person or body possibly overlooking them...
seriously, sometimes it seems the gaslighting and parallel realities are so off the charts various interests are purposely sowing division
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia