COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Petrovsky trials for children are starting next year, not sure where . Some Australian parents would be hoping this gets approved so as to have a choice between Pfizer and spikeogen . There is huge interest in Petrovsky vaccine with 35,000 Australians registering for any upcoming trials .
supa, from.that link you posted it sounds like there will be a whole new generation of protein based vaccines that will be safer and have greater effectiveness. Petrovsky is further down that path than most.
@blindboy, he has also made a vaccine for every varient so far , currently making one to suit omicron.
blindboy wrote:Classic propaganda states "facts" and then draws, often illogical, conclusions from them. In this case the "facts" were that the man was coerced into being vaccinated and that he was previously healthy. There is no evidence for either.
The illogical conclusion here is that someone must be personally responsible and should be punished. The basic idea is that you start from your conclusion and manufacture the evidence. More importantly, the argument imust be highly emotional and express outrage, though the propagandist rarely feels anything. Their concerns are more broadly political. Shallow tedious stuff and quite out dated since the public, by long exposure is pretty much immune to these kind of naive ravings.
Cool story bro.
Truth is he was coerced by the NZ government and he died as a result.
They are the facts.
udo wrote:
The great awakening....oh gawd
udo wrote:
It’s going to be interesting to see who else comes forward.
Yep and so those conspiracy nutters are correct again with the narrative shifting to a 3rd booster to be considered the minimum to be declared 'vaccinated'..
'2 weeks to flatten the curve' was a lie, 80% jabbed to open up was a lie, 90% jabbed to open up was a lie and the 3rd booster will be a lie. As will be the 4th and 5th and 6th.
Thanks to the compliance of many, and promotion even by the likes of SN, VL and BB this sort of behavior has become seemingly acceptable. Get off the bus ppl. You still can.
@shortenm , have you changed your name ? I thought it was shortenism ?
This thread is a rabbit hole
"Truth is he was coerced by the NZ government and he died as a result.
They are the facts."
....because you say so? Ha ha ha. Full of shit...as usual.
shortenm wrote:Yep and so those conspiracy nutters are correct again with the narrative shifting to a 3rd booster to be considered the minimum to be declared 'vaccinated'..
'2 weeks to flatten the curve' was a lie, 80% jabbed to open up was a lie, 90% jabbed to open up was a lie and the 3rd booster will be a lie. As will be the 4th and 5th and 6th.
Thanks to the compliance of many, and promotion even by the likes of SN, VL and BB this sort of behavior has become seemingly acceptable. Get off the bus ppl. You still can.
Yep. They’re to,d so many lies and they repeat so many lies that they can no longer keep track.
A couple of weeks ago Blindboy was adamant that naturally Aquire immunity was not as good as being vaccinated, now he’s saying that the reason South Africans experienced the omicold as fuck all was because they already had naturally acquired immunity.
Crew like him don’t really care about the facts though. They’re inconsequential to their main message :
“You’ll do what I tell you and you’ll shut the fuck up whilst you’re doing it!”
Blowin wrote:blindboy wrote:Classic propaganda states "facts" and then draws, often illogical, conclusions from them. In this case the "facts" were that the man was coerced into being vaccinated and that he was previously healthy. There is no evidence for either.
The illogical conclusion here is that someone must be personally responsible and should be punished. The basic idea is that you start from your conclusion and manufacture the evidence. More importantly, the argument imust be highly emotional and express outrage, though the propagandist rarely feels anything. Their concerns are more broadly political. Shallow tedious stuff and quite out dated since the public, by long exposure is pretty much immune to these kind of naive ravings.Cool story bro.
Truth is he was coerced by the NZ government and he died as a result.
They are the facts.
Govts coerce for the protection of many...it isn't always perfect, but it is for the best.
The big question , if fully vaccinated soon means 3 doses after the government reconsiders the options , will those that are only double vaccinated be discriminated against ? as in , international flights etc etc ? https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/australians-could-soon-n... Scotty seems to be changing his tune , aren’t we supposed to just stare it down ?
Blowie you are back to arguing with what you say I said rather than what I did say. Why not go into a corner and argue with yourself for a while and save us the trouble of calling out your constant stream of toxic bullshit. You are an anti-vaxxer who is fully vaccinated and so a complete hypocrite. Credibility? Less than zero. The odds of anything you say being total bullshit are running at 100%
udo wrote:
Hahahaha
Is this serious or a spinal tap look at the situation? (actually entertaining if it is a spoof)
Did Hendy even finish high school?
Comedians , clubbies, home school mums , all cogs in the social media wheels of anti vaxxer expert victory.....
Hessian sacks $9 at Bunnings Warehouse ..... and if you find a cheaper price we will better it by 10%
https://www.bunnings.com.au/saxon-hessian-garden-bag-110l_p0246328?gclid...
As recommended by Alan Jones and the perennially angry among us .... bag’em up and tow ‘em out to sea!!
Angry?
I'm furious!
Now if only Trevor Hendy can ride up like a broad-shouldered white knight and speak truth to power (!) because as he himself says, often our passions and abilities are obscured by junk thoughts, beliefs and memories.
And after all, we need his help to turn over that last rock, the one that the spirit, or soul, is hiding under.
Onya Trev.
Just another loud mouth celebrity moron looking for an ego boost now their career is over.
"Yep. They’re to,d so many lies and they repeat so many lies that they can no longer keep track.
A couple of weeks ago Blindboy was adamant that naturally Aquire immunity was not as good as being vaccinated, now he’s saying that the reason South Africans experienced the omicold as fuck all was because they already had naturally acquired immunity."
oh well, the 1980s educated science teacher is really coming along actually...
a couple of weeks before that he couldn't even bring himself to consider naturally aquired immunity when discussing indonesia
well, trying to avoid discussing indonesia actually...
so that's some development... for a cantankerous old ....
Hey Supa, thanks so did I!? No idea. I didn't change it but have logged in from a different computer. Maybe i upset SN.
Supafreak wrote:The big question , if fully vaccinated soon means 3 doses after the government reconsiders the options , will those that are only double vaccinated be discriminated against ? as in , international flights etc etc ? https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/australians-could-soon-n... Scotty seems to be changing his tune , aren’t we supposed to just stare it down ?
could be big problem for crew trying to return to oz...
plenty of bule in indo double vaxxed, with buckley's of getting a booster
shortenm wrote:Hey Supa, thanks so did I!? No idea. I didn't change it but have logged in from a different computer. Maybe i upset SN.
Hmm, I'd like to see just how far this conspiracy theory goes.
Alas, it is probably better to nip it in the bud, and let you know shortenm (and shortenism), that you actually have two accounts: shortenm was created nine and a half years ago, shortenism was created two and a half years ago. They both have different email addresses.
Imagine if all conspiracy theories could be debunked that easily?
sypkan wrote:"Yep. They’re to,d so many lies and they repeat so many lies that they can no longer keep track.
A couple of weeks ago Blindboy was adamant that naturally Aquire immunity was not as good as being vaccinated, now he’s saying that the reason South Africans experienced the omicold as fuck all was because they already had naturally acquired immunity."
oh well, the 1980s educated science teacher is really coming along actually...
a couple of weeks before that he couldn't even bring himself to consider naturally aquired immunity when discussing indonesia
well, trying to avoid discussing indonesia actually...
so that's some development... for a cantankerous old ....
And then he lies about lying….it’s fucking nuts.
Legit weirdo.
You gotta wonder what’s going on at the CDC , before covid they had an extremely good reputation, now not so much and trust is at a all time low with doctors. Here they once again show how they have failed to install confidence in what they do . https://m.
&fbclid=IwAR1MwkSaHVEeYeKDo3MeGJYSuVEfexmjXsc0K-WsooYiyrpTg2UP5r32DDg thermalben wrote:shortenm wrote:Hey Supa, thanks so did I!? No idea. I didn't change it but have logged in from a different computer. Maybe i upset SN.
Hmm, I'd like to see just how far this conspiracy theory goes.
Alas, it is probably better to nip it in the bud, and let you know shortenm (and shortenism), that you actually have two accounts: shortenm was created nine and a half years ago, shortenism was created two and a half years ago. They both have different email addresses.
Imagine if all conspiracy theories could be debunked that easily?
Thanks Thermal. So am I paying for two subscriptions? Or can a subscriber have more than one account on this forum?
Ignorant arse and his mate little sir echo wet their pants in excitement over a vaccine death in NZ but somehow forget the 5 million covid deaths. Sick fucksticks for sure, proud of their empathy bypasses and determined to continue in their ignorance. Hey Trev, over here, you've hooked a couple of suckers!
blowing calling others liars.....is next level hilarious.
Trev's all ready to fill that God Shaped Hole - for a price of course.
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National Cabinet meeting tomorrow to discuss your "booster" being classed as your third vaccine.
You cant make this shit up, i've been saying this for weeks.
Goal posts about to be moved AGAIN. But quick get your 3rd Vaccine because even though we know it's not effective (look at transmission of vaccinated people) we have bough a shit load of it and it has an expiry date.
Fully vaccinated for your freedumbs? If you're a close contact you're is isolation for 7 days. Now thats a real "freedumb" when you look at transmission of the fully vaccinated.
Using QR check in? another way to be classed as a close contact and locked away.
Only last week premiers were screaming that it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated and the virus hunts down the unvaccinated. It's al lies.
Trev's also selling this on his site.
Even better if you've caught covid fully jabbed in QLD. They have been putting everyone in Hospital when they aint sick. You can't make this shit up
Roadkill wrote:A disease of the unvaccinated.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/greg-hunt-reveals-the-l...
Its real worth a quick perusal through the very recent history of this thread to showcase the gaslighting, lying and bullshit which is spread by the authorities and media.
Here’s Greg Hunt - the federal minister for health no less - talking out his arse and lying to the media. He says that double vaccinated are virtually prevented from catching covid.
This is from only 8 weeks ago. Even then he knew that thousands of double vaccinated people were catching covid. Two months later and the lie has changed to “Of course two shots won’t prevent infection…..but three will!”
8 double vaccinated people died whilst testing positive to the virus yesterday.
The authorities lie. The media lies. The government is not your friend.
Blowin wrote:Roadkill wrote:A disease of the unvaccinated.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/greg-hunt-reveals-the-l...
Its real worth a quick perusal through the very recent history of this thread to showcase the gaslighting, lying and bullshit which is spread by the authorities and media.
Here’s Greg Hunt - the federal minister for health no less - talking out his arse and lying to the media. He says that double vaccinated are virtually prevented from catching covid.
This is from only 8 weeks ago. Even then he knew that thousands of double vaccinated people were catching covid. Two months later and the lie has changed to “Of course two shots won’t prevent infection…..but three will!”
8 double vaccinated people died whilst testing positive to the virus yesterday.
The authorities lie. The media lies. The government is not your friend.
100%. Vicmoron has been constantly saying that vaccinated reduces transmission over & over, yet he's now gone very quiet on the subject.
Where we have stayed relatively the same. The only difference between a "conspiracy theory" and the truth is around 3 months with covid news.
The burleigh and blowin bullshit show continues. Two manly men who are not afraid because they know more than the world's leading virologists.
For the those who struggle with statistics
udo wrote:
What a fucken goose
Name dropping "there's the beautiful kelly slater, barton, taj" ffs
Selfish piece of shit.
Blowin wrote:Let’s all remember this quote next January :
“Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly said it was a “very important day” but reiterated boosters were just that – a boost – and people with two doses remained fully vaccinated and well protected against COVID-19.“
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/green-light-for-booster-program-...
From the 28th October.
In Russia peoples know government is friend of government and friend of friend of government.
Peoples not so much is friended is so expect little. Not listen much to goverment is talk and number.
Covid to Russia peoples is like loss of job, slip on ice, bad cabbage in bin, empty vodka bottle, bump of car in traffic, smelly fart, cancer lump or angry babushka at party.
Is another problem of many on is of road of life. Not stop of life.
Is braves? Is sad? Is good? Is not good? Or just is?
Vic Local wrote:The burleigh and blowin bullshit show continues. Two manly men who are not afraid because they know more than the world's leading virologists.
You gone quiet Vic. Whats wrong? Your little dream bubble of being vaccinated to not catch Covid been popped?
Look at SA media releases. https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/public+content/sa+health+... Vaccinated cases everyday WAY higher than unvaccinated. It's now a pandemic of the vaccinated, the government has moved completely away from saying that the vaccine stops transmission, which means everythig they said about protecting more vulnerable was another lie.
Now they are saying they will only look at ICU patients, which means fit, young healthy people should never have received the jab as they most likely would not have ended up in hospital anyway.
It's coercion/manipulation and the lies keep on coming.
If youre old, fat or sick, get the jab to protect YOURSELF. Im guessing Vic, blindboy and roadkill all fit in the bracket somewhere
burleigh wrote:100%. Vicmoron has been constantly saying that vaccinated reduces transmission over & over, yet he's now gone very quiet on the subject.
fwiw, the girl i sit next to at work tested positive last thursday, was sitting next her mon-wed & as of today i haven't caught it... luck, or vax helping suppress transmission?
also, why so much childish name calling in this thread, it's bizarre
Wow….Blindboy trying to accuse others of not understanding statistics!
Then again…..he’s the same bloke who keeps repeating the lie that being vaccinated is what would prevent me from being hospitalised if I caught covid!
Here’s how his lie works:
He says that the vaccines reduce chance of hospitalisation from covid by 90%. Which he hopes you will assume means that your 100% chance of hospitalisation is now only a 10% chance. But that’s not what the 90% statistic actually means.
The 90% is you relative risk, not actual risk.
As a healthy 49 year old unvaccinated my chance of hospitalisation is already about 0.005%. The vaccine- in best case scenario and it may not work AT ALL - reduces my 0.005% chance by 90%. This means my chances are now one half of the three fifths of fuck all which they were before I started injecting toxic Pfizer products into my body.
The bloke doesn’t understand statistics. He doesn’t understand much beyond “ Obey or I’ll send you to the headmaster”
gragagan wrote:udo wrote:What a fucken goose
Name dropping "there's the beautiful kelly slater, barton, taj" ffs
Selfish piece of shit.
Name checks one doctor, with dubious credentials, says his work is "real science". The chutzpah!
There are lies, damn lies, wiful ignorance and then far out there, way on the other side of anything approaching reason, there's Blowie, all on his own, holding aloft a torch for the right to spew toxic bullshit....thar she blows! It's the great white wanker!
blindboy wrote:There are lies, damn lies, wiful ignorance and then far out there, way on the other side of anything approaching reason, there's Blowie, all on his own, holding aloft a torch for the right to spew toxic bullshit....thar she blows! It's the great white wanker!
What do you think about all the lies the premiers have told over the last 18+ months?
blindboy wrote:There are lies, damn lies, wiful ignorance and then far out there, way on the other side of anything approaching reason, there's Blowie, all on his own, holding aloft a torch for the right to spew toxic bullshit....thar she blows! It's the great white wanker!
I tell you what bloke….you’ve yet to prove me wrong once in your eighty pages of silly old bugger bullshit.
Your only weapon is brutal ignorance. You’re like a more delusional version of VIC Local. At least we know he’s only in this for the cash handouts from the taxpayers for sitting on his wrinkly old arse instead of hosting tea parties. You aren’t even that smart bloke.
You’re just a mouthpiece for Pfizer and Greg Hunt.
Trev, preaching to the converted. An off the shelf self awakening course :)
Who was responsible for this totalitarian approach to a virus?
Fauci's War on Science: The Smoking Gun
Those weeks following the release of the Great Barrington Declaration did feel odd...
On the good side, medical doctors, scientists, public health workers, and citizens all over the world were thrilled that three top scholars in fields of public health and epidemiology had spoken out against lockdowns and for a reasoned approach to Covid. They eagerly signed the document.
Yes, there were some attempts to sabotage it too, with fake names and so on, which should have been a clue about what was coming. The fakes were deleted in days and new methods of confirming signatures were deployed.
The document, on the one hand, said nothing controversial. The right way to deal with this pandemic, it said, was to focus on those who could face severe outcomes from disease – a very plain point and nothing new. There was nothing to be gained by locking down the whole of society because of a pathogen with such a huge differential in its demographic impact.
The virus would have to become endemic in any case (including the realization of “herd immunity,” which is not a “strategy” but a descriptive term widely accepted in epidemiology) and certainly would not be stopped by destroying peoples’ lives and liberties.
The hope of the Declaration was simply that journalists would pay attention to a different point of view and a debate would begin on the unprecedented experiment in lockdowns. Perhaps science could prevail, even in this climate.
On the bad side, and at the very same time, following the release, the attacks began pouring in, and they were brutal, structured to destroy. The three main signers – Sunetra Gupta (Oxford), Martin Kulldorff (Harvard), and Jay Bhattacharya (Stanford) – made the statement as a matter of principle. It was also born of frustration with the prevailing narrative.
Mostly this declaration was intended as an educational effort. But the authors were being called vicious names and treated like heretics that should be burned. There certainly was no civil debate; quite the contrary.
It was all quite shocking given that the Declaration was a statement concerning what almost everyone in these professional circles believed earlier in the year. They were merely stating the consensus based on science and experience. Nothing more. Even on March 2, 2020, 850 scientists signed a letter to the White House warning against lockdowns, closures, and travel restrictions. It was sponsored by Yale University. Today it reads nearly like a first draft of the Great Barrington Declaration. Indeed on that same day, Fauci wrote to a Washington Post reporter: “The epidemic will gradually decline and stop on its own without a vaccine.”
But following the March 13-16, 2020 lockdowns, the orthodoxy had evidently changed. And suddenly. The signers of the GBD had declined to change with it. Thus did they endure astonishingly brutal smears. What felt odd at the time was the sheer intensity of the attacks, as well as their dogmatism and ferocity. These attacks also had a strong political flavor that had little regard for science.
Already by the summer, it was very clear that the lockdowns had not achieved what they were supposed to achieve. Two weeks had stretched into many months, and the data on cases and deaths were uncorrelated with the “mitigation measures” that had been imposed on the country and the world. Meanwhile, millions had missed cancer screenings, schools and churches had been shut, public health was in a state of crisis, and small businesses and communities were fighting to stay alive.
It was obvious on October 4, 2020, when the Declaration was released, that it was a correct statement and that the lockdowns had failed by every measure. Following Trump’s fatal March 2020 decision to acquiesce to Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx, the president had pushed for reopening the country and treating this pathogen as a disease with normal medical methods. He was not making much headway, however. The handful of people around Trump who had been responsible for pushing them were digging in, prepared to wage a full war on dissent.
What historian Phil Magness has discovered, with newly unearthed emails, comes not as a shock to any of us but it is satisfying to see the confirmation of what we suspected. It seemed at the time that the effort to attack and destroy both the GBD and its authors was coordinated from the top. Here at last is the proof that our intuition was not crazy.
The author of the initial email is Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The recipients were Anthony Fauci and H. Clifford Lane, NIAID Deputy Director for Clinical Research and Special Projects.The email calls for a “published take down” of the GBD that is both “quick and devastating.”
That evening, Fauci wrote back, not with a reference to any scientific papers supporting lockdowns and so on but with a piece from the gadget publication called Wired, which said the GBD is wrong because “quite literally arguing with the past” because the lockdowns are no longer being used. Collins responded: “excellent.”
The next day, Fauci struck again with an article from the pro-lockdown leftist newspaper The Nation. It’s a demoralizing reference simply because the public was led to believe that between his endless TV interviews, Fauci was scouring “the science” to find out more about SARS-CoV-2, not googling and landing on highly politicized and ideological webzines. What we find in these emails are highly political people who are obsessed not with science but with messaging and popular influences on the public mind.
Days later, Collins himself gave quotes to the Washington Post that ridiculed the position that society should reopen. He was clearly attacking Trump and the White House generally. Fauci said not to worry about it because they were too busy with other things, e.g. the election.
Over the following weeks, many new pieces appeared in the popular press. These gentlemen eagerly shared them.
What do we learn from these emails?
The attacks on tens of thousands of medical professionals and scientists were indeed encouraged from the top. The basis for the attacks were not scientific articles. They were heavily political popular pieces. This adds serious weight to the impression we all had at the time, which was that this was not really about science but about something far more insidious.
You can discover more about this in Scott Atlas’s book on the topic. These new emails confirm his account. It was an outright war on top scientists, people whose views on matters of public health were not different from the professional consensus only earlier in the year. For that matter, Anthony Fauci himself warned against lockdowns in January and February, favoring instead normal methods of mitigation.
My own estimate is that the convinced advocates of lockdowns when they took place were probably fewer than 50 in the US. How and why they managed to grab hold of the reins of power will be investigated by historians for many decades. The incredibly positive response to the Great Barrington Declaration, which has garnered 900,000 signatures in the meantime, demonstrates that there was and is still life remaining in traditional public health measures deployed throughout the 20th century and still respect for human dignity and science remaining among medical professionals and the general public.
Please remember that Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins are not just two scientists among hundreds of thousands. As the NIH site says, it “invests about $41.7 billion annually in medical research for the American people.” With that kind of spending power, you can wield a great deal of influence, even to the point of crushing dissent, however rooted in serious science the target might be. It might be enough power and influence to achieve the seemingly impossible, such as conducting a despotic experiment without precedent, under the cover of virus control, in overturning law, tradition, rights, and liberties hard won from hundreds of years of human experience.
This war on dissent against lockdowns is not only a scandal of our times. The lockdowns and now the mandates have fundamentally transformed society and its relationship to government, technology, media, and much more. The emergency continues. Protests have arisen the world over but they are hardly even covered by the media. We seem ever more to be on the precipice of total disaster, one that will be difficult to reverse. It is urgent that we know who did this, as well as how and why, and take steps to stop it before more damage is done and then becomes permanent.
When was the last time you heard someone in a position of authority in Australia informing people of the extreme age dependence for risk of severe covid?
Never.
The government is not your friend.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia