COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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truebluebasher Friday, 17 Dec 2021 at 7:48pm

USA Xmas Holiday Review

US Covid has been rising since Oct/Nov up to current 150,000 cases/day > 1,800 deaths/day

US Kidz are now 23.6% or 30,000/wk or current 164,300 cases...
US current Highest Kidz Covid has been in the N/E as with their vaxed parents.

Vax % ( Ages 5-11) Start Nov > Peaked mid Nov 300k /day > mid Dec 65k/day (Govt Ok'd New year)
45.6% Vermont 35.8% Massachusetts 32.5% Maine 30.3% Rhode Is 27.1% Columbia 27% Virginia ...
3.6% W Virginia 3.9% Mississippi 4.9% Louisiana 5.7% Alabama 8.1% Wyoming 8.5% Tennessee...

Kid Covid infections in this order (Note High Vax States)
Vermont > Maine > New Hampshire > Massachusetts > Michigan > Illinois > Minnesota > New Mexico

US Nursing Homes Vax% > (30% Staff Shortage)
70% Vermont 68.2% *N. Dakota 62.1% N Hampshire 60.3% Iowa 59.9% S Dakota 59.3% Delaware
17.3% Arizona 20.8% Columbia 23.8% Florida 24.9% Tennessee 26% Louisiana 26.2% Missouri.
US Nursing Homes Covid Cases (States n/a)
11th Oct - 11th Nov - Resident Cases 1.8 >1.2 /100 + Staff cases 2.5 >1.4 /100

General Population
USA > Top Ten Vaxer States are spreading most Covid.
#1 Vermont (3x Peak Covid) > 2 Rhode Island = Peak > 3 Maine (2x Peak Covid) > 4 Connecticut = Peak 5 Massachusetts 6 West Virginia 7 New York 8 New Jersey 9 Maryland 10 *Washington ( All Rising > 2nd Highest Peaks)

Can Joe's Vax Nightmare get any worse? Let's see if the crew can salvage US Hi Vax hot mess...

*US Winter predictions (Boosters should reduce Highest Vaxed / Covid states downward)
US Boosters are given at 5 months... steady at 17%
Warning! Quite a few EU nations rush their Boosters to 3 months and are Vert Spiking WR Mass Covid.

*US Xmas Covid peaks after the holiday return in 1st week of Jan...gotta hang in there a bit longer!
Perhaps US can learn from last winter to avoid repeat super spread!

*Current Cold Front is driving Covid thru High Vaxed N/E states across to Mid US. (Change in the wind!)
Crew can examine the La Nina Weather change to gauge 2022 US Winter Covid Outbreaks.
https://weather.com/forecast/national/news/2021-12-15-winter-early-sprin...

La Nina Pacific switch drives a Cold Snap from N/W to end at Centre North States.
Jan Covid should switch to infect *Montana > (see Below) *N/S Dakota < Minnesota + Nebraska / Iowa.
Keep note of sleepy tail end of Cold N/W Front of Idaho > (Oregon > *Washington covid on radar now)

Feb Covid blows out to spread as far east as Wisconsin...No indication of Further N/E Cold Snaps.
But backpedals from Montana to smash *Washington then spreads down Oregon to California way!
Wotz important is the N/W push, as it may be (less salty-more arid) as it pushes down the West Coast
Feb is the most Coldest for many states & Nevada / Utah will also be on Covid Watch.
tbb is just putting it out there as colder seabreeze may not kill off the Virus as neither the UK icy blasts.

March La Nina fronts same states but backs off & still haunts *Washington < Idaho > *Montana.
Must be said that California Coast is Highly Populated & La Nina Cold Snap blasts North Pacific Coast.

Deep South Hesitants continue their flukey fun run in the sun.

(Lowest 10 Vaxed US States) (50-53%) have less need for Boosters.
1 Georgia falls 30% 2 Arkansas Low 3 Tennessee Low 4 Indiana Fall-Med 5 *North Dakota Flat 6 Missouri Fall-Med 7 South Carolina Flat/Spike 8 Oklahoma Low 9 *Montana Diving 10 Kentucky steady.

Together the Lowest 10 US Vaxers struggle to sneeze out 20,000 cases/day

(Pandemic of the N/E (aka) Vax wane anomaly is similar to N/E Mid Rollout immune escape anomaly)
Less that Deep South are any extra Hesitant just that N/E never learn from same Vax mistakes!

However! Beware the La Nina : Jan-March N/W Omicron blizzard.
WNW States have ultra Low Nursing Home Vax 26%-45%. vs (Mass Vax Wane!)
Winter Frontline Low Vaxed 53%*Montana + (52%*Nth Dakota has High Vax 68.2% Nursing Homes)
Hi Vax 70% *Washington has 1,000 cases/day + Low Vax 45.4% Nursing Homes)

Most of the World Covid spikes at Xmas > Easter > August Worker Holidays.

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sypkan Friday, 17 Dec 2021 at 7:57pm

"I love candy canes"

...that's pretty obvious, chubba chubba chubba chubba and chubba...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=457084005813155&id=100043213...

funny stuff

just plain odd funny...

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burleigh Friday, 17 Dec 2021 at 8:21pm
sypkan wrote:

"I love candy canes"

...that's pretty obvious, chubba chubba chubba chubba and chubba...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=457084005813155&id=100043213...

funny stuff

just plain odd funny...

Now we know why VicMoron was quiet on here today. Making signs and handing out candy canes. What a fucking weird mob of humans

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truebluebasher Friday, 17 Dec 2021 at 9:19pm

Can UK shock the world anymore...Boosting their incubating freedom Vax Spikes to 88,376 cases/day
2020/21 UK Xmas Phase 1 / Dose 1 Vax Incubation Spike is censored...
2021/22 UK Xmas Booster Spike should be!

Vax Hubs are now Covid Rocket Launch Pads...54321 We have Lift Off!
UK Vax /100 Covid Booster Launch
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~GBR
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

Le French Vax/100 Covid Rocket Boosters
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~FRA
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/

Spanish vax/100 Covid Rocket Ship Boosters
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~ESP
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

Rollouts on Roids > Leaders mandate 1 million Covid Warheads per Launch

Leader : "We'll order it to rain Covid in order to flush out the last hesitant!"
Hesitant : 'We're now knee deep in Covid because of the Rollout!'
Leader : "Ok! No need to be rude about it, or I'll have our pet Experts rollout Covid Acid Rain Clouds!"
Hesitant : 'Yer still gonna need a more sinister Mass Vax Promo ...Like this...!'

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Vic Local Friday, 17 Dec 2021 at 10:04pm

There's plenty of cooked units commenting on this forum, but the people following and attending the Dan Andrews Treason Case in Myrtleford are beyond burnt. Some light reading of the sh!tshow.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/dec/17/daniel-andrews-tr...

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I focus Friday, 17 Dec 2021 at 10:16pm
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It's the numbers that are more the concern, the numbers of infections will most likely be much much higher, hence even if a much smaller percentage of people really get sick the numbers could still be high.

Yes how ever in Oz we likely have a higher population of patients being treated for autoimmune diseases, cancers, heart issues, diabetes etc due to our progressive health system (i.e. most can get treated regardless of wealth) higher infection rate means the new variant may well knock them over.

Plenty of unknowns still to work out.

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sypkan Friday, 17 Dec 2021 at 10:18pm

pretty funny stuff...

creative crowd, kinda shat in their own nest, and undermined their own cause...

but definitely more creative and interesting than the candy cane chubbas

https://www.rebelnews.com/daniel_andrews_criminal_hearing_thrown_out_aft...

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Island Bay Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 5:43am

Not quite as effective as we'd hoped...

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=08#%20

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Hiccups Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 6:39am
sypkan wrote:

"I love candy canes"

...that's pretty obvious, chubba chubba chubba chubba and chubba...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=457084005813155&id=100043213...

funny stuff

just plain odd funny...

I'll give him credit for persistence. You can get a bit of insight into that "journalist's" mind in this short video.

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Blowin Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 6:33am
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Blowin Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 6:44am

How long do you reckon the “we don’t know how serious this strain is” story line can hold out against reality?

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Vic Local Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 6:52am
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How long do you reckon the “we don’t know how serious this strain is” story line can hold out against reality?

Probably as long as it takes to carefully analyse the impact of the new strain from various locations around the world and within Australia.
Hey blowin, science takes time. Being an idiot and demanding certainty while pretending you know more than the experts is much quicker.

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:09am
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Vic Local Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:15am

Our Aussie Aussie Aussie anti-everything mob are using the same playbook as their US brothers and sisters.
Create a mob of idiots - do dumb shit - ask for donations - watch your bank balance grow.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/capitol-attack-insurrect...

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:16am

Hmm.

I wonder how long this can go on?

Interesting note: No mention of Gottlieb sitting on Pfizer board.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/17/covid-fauci-says-a-redefinition-of-fully...

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:23am

"Create a mob of idiots - do dumb shit - ask for donations - watch your bank balance grow".

Like this?

https://support.theguardian.com/au/contribute

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Blowin Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:24am
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Not looking good.

Roll up for another booster.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/modelling-suggests-rapid-spread-o...

Written by the fella who predicted 5000 deaths per day in England last year and the same fella who created the idea of UK lockdowns and demanded they were implemented only to have him Criss cross the country to root his married mistress whilst everyone else was under his house arrest.

Totally trustworthy and reliable!

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Blowin Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:26am
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Blowin wrote:

How long do you reckon the “we don’t know how serious this strain is” story line can hold out against reality?

Probably as long as it takes to carefully analyse the impact of the new strain from various locations around the world and within Australia.
Hey blowin, science takes time. Being an idiot and demanding certainty while pretending you know more than the experts is much quicker.

Hey VIC Locsl…..you’re always banging on about grifters profiteering from the virus. Tell us how many thousands of dollars of taxpayer cash you gleamed whilst you were demanding the ever harsher lockdowns which sent many people bankrupt.

How much taxpayer cash grifter?

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:39am

Something for the whole family.

https://drudgereport.com/

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:37am

Just in case this little snippet from Drudge flies under the radar.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10318751/CDC-panel-unanimously-...

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blindboy Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:49am

The headline is a lie. Actually it is a good example of a standard tabloid technique. Lie or overstate the headline to attract the simpletons (in this case those who believe vaccines are toxic) then get a bit closer to the truth in the main body for those who actually read and to protect against accusations of deceit.....as if anybody in power these days actually cares.

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:50am
blindboy wrote:

The headline is a lie.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/232698/modelling-suggests-rapid-spread-o...

Have a word with the scientists then...

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 7:51am

Wrong headline.

The scientists you need would appear to be the CDC.

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:02am

Or was it this one?

These scientists keep finding out new things.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/12/17/21/vast-study-confirms-rare-hear...

Whatever will they discover next?

Hopefully it's good news and not bad.

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:14am

These scientists never stop.

Kiddie shot just needs fine tuning.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-business-health-...

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Supafreak Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:14am

Here’s a headline, from the Atlantic https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/620953/. The Pandemic of the Vaccinated Is Here

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burleigh Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:32am
Vic Local wrote:
Blowin wrote:

How long do you reckon the “we don’t know how serious this strain is” story line can hold out against reality?

Probably as long as it takes to carefully analyse the impact of the new strain from various locations around the world and within Australia.
Hey blowin, science takes time. Being an idiot and demanding certainty while pretending you know more than the experts is much quicker.

You're right, science does take time. Just like the science behind these emergency jabs. Thanks for clarifying VicMoron.

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blindboy Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:34am

"The Moderna Covid jab carries a slight risk of usually non-serious heart problems a study of the entire population of Denmark found Friday."

Wow what a horrendous error ...... a vaccine that produces a "slight risk" of a "non-serious" problem. Better stay at home under the covers if that worries you.

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:39am
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"The Moderna Covid jab carries a slight risk of usually non-serious heart problems a study of the entire population of Denmark found Friday."

Wow what a horrendous error ...... a vaccine that produces a "slight risk" of a "non-serious" problem. Better stay at home under the covers if that worries you.

What is proves is that there are still unknowns with these rushed, experimental ineffective jabs.

Certainly doesn't bother me.

I only take ones that have had proper clinical trials...

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burleigh Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:41am

A virus so deadly it can be mistaken for the common cold. Get your boosters people. jab jab jab

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/omicron-or-cold-how-to-tell-t...

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 8:53am
aaron61 wrote:
blindboy wrote:

"The Moderna Covid jab carries a slight risk of usually non-serious heart problems a study of the entire population of Denmark found Friday."

Wow what a horrendous error ...... a vaccine that produces a "slight risk" of a "non-serious" problem. Better stay at home under the covers if that worries you.

What is proves is that there are still unknowns with these rushed, experimental ineffective jabs.

Certainly doesn't bother me.

I only take ones that have had proper clinical trials...

"Usually non-serious heart problems".

That's a nice little caveat.

Let's hope you don't score the unusual ones...

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Vic Local Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 9:00am
blindboy wrote:

"The Moderna Covid jab carries a slight risk of usually non-serious heart problems a study of the entire population of Denmark found Friday."

Wow what a horrendous error ...... a vaccine that produces a "slight risk" of a "non-serious" problem. Better stay at home under the covers if that worries you.

And this is where the rubber hits the road. The anti-vaxxer flogs want everyone to bend to their will because they fill their tiny minds with covid misinformation. They want vulnerable people to stay at home rather than stupid people. Fark that. We should never make the majority to make sacrifices for the moronic minority.

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shortenism Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 9:06am
Vic Local wrote:

There's plenty of cooked units commenting on this forum, but the people following and attending the Dan Andrews Treason Case in Myrtleford are beyond burnt. Some light reading of the sh!tshow.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/dec/17/daniel-andrews-tr...

Standard shit fkery VL. You've fallen for it hook line and sinker AGAIN. Surely, you can see the way the story is presented is to make it sound like a big joke. When in reality, its not really a joke. I mean common ppl are pushing to get a state Premier to court and as we know its rare to get anywhere on attempt 1. Yet its back on page 10... Dan Andrews conveniently gets caught up in a COVID hotspot so cant attend...? Livestream cuts out...? Coincidence? Its so cooked its not even funny. Just like his little staircase fall, which led into him and his wife being interviewed on prime time tv talking about the near death experience, tissues and all. Shit fkery 101.

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blindboy Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 9:18am

Shitfuckery 101? Nah Ph.D in paranoia!

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Vic Local Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 9:20am

Wow shortenism, falling for the old "Dan Andrews treason trial" in Myrtleford. The one the magistrate kicked out because it's beyond ludicrous. This is genuine tinfoil hat territory.

Someone is going to have to come up with something truly bizarre to beat shortenism for "The most cooked unit on Swellnet in 2021" comp.

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goofyfoot Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 9:49am

From blind boys article -
“ Overall, the numbers are still too small to draw firm conclusions about the severity of disease caused by Omicron, says Troels Lillebæk, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Copenhagen.”

So they don’t really know yet?

Also from the article-
“ Early results suggest a glimmer of hope. Reports from South Africa have consistently noted a lower rate of hospitalization as a result of Omicron infections compared with infections caused by the Delta variant, which is currently responsible for most SARS-CoV-2 infections globally. ”

Guess we wait and see

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blindboy Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 9:52am

There is no firm conclusion yet. The data so far support the less serious but more infectious view. The degree to which each of those has changed will probably be the key. If the rate of infection has increased proportionally more than the seriousness has declined that translates to more serious cases and potential stress on the hospital.system. We have to hope the equation runs in the other direction.

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I focus Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 10:12am

Vaccines = rushed
New Variant = experts appear in days

People die with COVID = people die from vaccines

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 10:20am
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From blind boys article -
“ Overall, the numbers are still too small to draw firm conclusions about the severity of disease caused by Omicron, says Troels Lillebæk, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Copenhagen.”

So they don’t really know yet?

Also from the article-
“ Early results suggest a glimmer of hope. Reports from South Africa have consistently noted a lower rate of hospitalization as a result of Omicron infections compared with infections caused by the Delta variant, which is currently responsible for most SARS-CoV-2 infections globally. ”

Guess we wait and see

Not only lower rate of hospitalisation but average length of time in Hospital in SA gone from 8.5 days to 2.8 days.

Even that women in UK that died from the variant is said to have been old and had other medical conditions.

These so called experts always take a super conservative view point as do media and politicians, i guess they just want to safe guard themselves, if they take a more positive view and then it turns out bad they will get blamed, but if overcall things and then it doesn't happen, although they were wrong nobody cares.

I guess they also don't want people to have too much of a carefree attitude and not take things seriously too.

This video despite the click bait headline answers some decent questions and even why they always overcall/overcook predications.

This Doctors vids are good too(low on BS)

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 10:30am

(Edit, seems it hasn't been updated yet, dates back to the 13th Dec)

BTW. this is interesting according to this we have the second highest percentage of Omicron variant in the world

From media i would have thought UK did, i guess they just have so much Covid.

I guess most in isolation?

If not we will be one of the first countries to have it become our dominant variant.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSel...

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blindboy Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 10:31am

"People die with COVID = people die from vaccines"

ifocus makes a late run for idiot of the year but with favourites like Blowin, burleigh and shortenism leading by several piles of stinking dung he will really have to consistently sink even lower than this if he is hoping for a podium finish.

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Vic Local Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 10:48am

ID. there's a very obvious reasons why politicians and medical experts would rather err on the side of caution than underestimate the impact of covid. The consequences of the latter are much greater than the consequences of the former.
We've watched the shitshows in Brazil, USA, and the UK. All caused by a "don't worry" mentality.

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 10:59am
Vic Local wrote:

ID. there's a very obvious reasons why politicians and medical experts would rather err on the side of caution than underestimate the impact of covid. The consequences of the latter are much greater than the consequences of the former.
We've watched the shitshows in Brazil, USA, and the UK. All caused by a "don't worry" mentality.

Frankenstein had more scruples. Let alone caution.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-business-health-...

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I focus Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 11:02am
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"People die with COVID = people die from vaccines"

ifocus makes a late run for idiot of the year but with favourites like Blowin, burleigh and shortenism leading by several piles of stinking dung he will really have to consistently sink even lower than this if he is hoping for a podium finish.

Was meant to be sarcasm BB... but would be nice to win something once in my life.

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aaron61 Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 11:12am

Pfizer.

At the end of this, I hope they are fucking bankrupt.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/11/pfizer-nigeria-meningitis-...

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blindboy Saturday, 18 Dec 2021 at 11:48am

Sorry focus, sarcasm is tricky online!