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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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upnorth Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 8:44pm

Don't take it personally, doesn't sounds like many of those doctors were planning on staying in Australia anyway with flights already booked home later in the year.

They trained and completed internships in the UK and Ireland and were in Australia for a jolly. The shit has hit the fan at home and they've gone back to help support their family and community, who wouldn't do the same? The advice this week to all UK and Irish nationals overseas from their respective governments has been get the fuck home asap.

Also on the flight were a load of backpackers, that's a good thing right? The fact Australia doesn't train enough of its own professionals is a separate issue, the doctors are the symptom not the problem. No pun intended.

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Blowin Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 7:30am

If anyone was wondering why the Greens need to be disbanded :

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stunet Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 8:33am

Can anyone recommend a good dystopian novel to lift my spirits?

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ojackojacko Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 8:54am

1984 never gets old stu - relevant in this environment too. have a search about zoom (video conferencing) and privacy

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Inkspots Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 8:54am

Deon Meyer’s “Fever” highly recommended, aftermath of coronavirus set in South Africa - brilliant writer. Don’t know if it will lift your spirits but will keep you absorbed for hours.

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AndyM Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 10:32am

Had to share this if only for the use of the term "incontinent dogs" to describe people in Italy ignoring lockdown rules.

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/angry-italian-mayors-rage-at-people-...

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mikehunt207 Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:18am

An author John Christopher (most famous for his trilogy The Tripods Trilogy which was made into a kids BBC series in the 80,s) wrote a great many end of days style books, one I remember in particular was The Death of Grass (1955), old now and I read them in high school but the post- apocalyptic message stuck with me , ahead of his time. Short paperbacks

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Blowin Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:34am

From Macrobusiness
“Only six weeks ago, we witnessed the entire higher education lobby vigorously attack the federal government’s ban on Chinese arrivals to stop the spread of the novel coronavirus.

Once their demands were rejected, we then witnessed Australia’s universities effectively transform into people smugglers, offering grants of up to $7,500 to Chinese students to help fund travel packages to third-country transit destinations.

Sydney University Associate Professor, Salvatore Babones, rightly labelled these university grants “morally indefensible” since they risked transmitting the coronavirus through poor vulnerable nations, in addition to Australia.

As it turned out, an estimated 32,000 Chinese students managed to circumvent Australia’s travel ban, at a rate of around 1,000 arrivals a day, via travelling through countries like Thailand and Dubai.

However, with the coronavirus now spreading like wildfire throughout Australia, universities are now closing their doors and turning to online teaching:

The Australian National University closed its campus on Thursday for at least three months with virtually all students and staff studying and working remotely.

All buildings will be locked and only a few people will remain present…

“ANU medical experts are clear: to control the spread of COVID-19 we must take tough action to reduce the number of interactions on our campus, and take it now,” he said…

La Trobe University has told its staff that almost all of them must work from home from Friday onwards.

An advisory committee has also recommended that universities close all student accommodation, thus potentially casting many international students onto the streets:

The Australian Health Protection Principals Committee, made up of the chief medical officers from all Australian governments, wrote in advice to tonight’s meeting of the national cabinet that “consideration should be given to closing student residential accommodation”.

Thus, after lobbying hard to open Australia’s border, and then bending the rules to bring Chinese students into the country to collect their fees, campuses are being shut and these students are effectively being abandoned.

For supposedly the smartest people in the nation, our universities have sure acted dumb. How many of these Chinese students brought over the coronavirus, we will never know.”

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Blowin Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:38am

Uni census day after which all student fees are non refundable was 29 March.

Coincidence ?

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velocityjohnno Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 12:33pm

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Blowin Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 12:30pm

.VJ’s post was hectic. Sometimes I get lulled into thinking that this thing isn’t so bad by a blue sky and a sunny day.

It’s that bad that John Cleese has put out a statement :

“The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent virus threat and have therefore raised their threat level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon, though, the level may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.”

The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out.

The virus has been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let's Get the Bastard.” They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”

The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbour” and “Lose.”

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

Australia, meanwhile, has raised its alert level from “No worries” to “She'll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is cancelled.” So far, no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.“

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stunet Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 2:00pm

Thanks for the heads up, Mike Hunt (heads up my c#nt!), and to Inkspots too.

I'm partial to the add spot of fictional dystopia. It can be a hard grind at times but worth it if the story shines a ray of light; says something about the fundamentals of humankind. Even a novel as brutal and despairing as The Road by Cormac McCarthy offers a glimmer of hope.

I don't know how to carry the fire.
Yes, you do.
Is the fire real?
Yes it is.
Where is it? I don't know where it is.
Yes you do. The fire is inside you. It always was there. I can see it.

On the weekend I began re-reading 'The Dog Stars' by Peter Heller, a book I enjoyed the first time around, and which again sows the seeds of a new society despite the current one being in ruins.

The reason it's in ruins, however, is due to an almost total devastation of the Earth's population from a flu virus. I kinda forgot about that when I picked up the book and it's just a touch too close to reality for enjoyment.

I'm fine with any other apocalyptic scenario: nuclear war, alien invasion, spiralling climate change, it's all good! However, rogue flu is off the menu for now.

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Blowin Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 2:07pm

Forgot books.

The future has been shown.....in High Definition.

( Substitute toilet paper for gasoline obviously. )

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GreenJam Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 3:26pm

here, here Blowin.

I fear this is the beginnings of WW3

that was in relation to the earlier post abou China inflicting this on the world...........

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velocityjohnno Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 4:11pm

Has anyone mentioned 'On the Beach?'

Dystopian Teen fiction:

Day of the Triffids - comet blinds everyone, then these poisonous mobile plants come down to earth and start venus flytrapping people with large stingers.

Z for Zachariah - post nuclear stuck in a valley with a weirdo situation for teen girl

All of the Twilight series - if you are able to get through it Stu. Dystopian love and angst with eternal teen girl question of should I choose a vampire or a werewolf as my alpha.

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blackers Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 5:43pm

Just to lighten things up a bit.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/30/astrophysicist-ge...
Is it wrong to laugh at someone else's misfortune? No one was hurt, apart from their pride.

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Patrick Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 5:55pm

fucking funny blackers!

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upnorth Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 6:49pm

Stunet you could try The Edge of The World by Michael Pye. How the North Sea made us who we are.

Not imagined but thousands of years of suffering in all its forms - disease, war, famine etc. And incredible ingenuity, endeavor and luck from those who survived.

Discovered that in 796 a Viking raiding party tried to take a monastery not far from here. On this occasion the monks were ready and killed the Viking leaders, the crew fled on board their ships only to be forced ashore at the local beachie where all were slaughtered. Makes contemporary localism look pretty tame.

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H2O Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 8:19pm

Dystopian film - District 9-

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mikehunt207 Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 9:43pm

" I didnt have sex with that Prawn!" , love the saffa accent in that one, makes in almost a comedy when its not really meant to be.
Another great couple of movies of similar genre is 28 Days Later and then 28 Weeks Later, Zombies but same thing a blood borne virus, Guy wakes up in hospital after being in a coma and the world has changed (for the worse), some great scenes of London landmarks with totally empty streets. Great actors too

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soggydog Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 9:47pm

The start of 28 weeks later is pretty crazy/scary.

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Distracted Tuesday, 31 Mar 2020 at 7:34am

For books has TC Boyle “After the Plague” been mentioned?

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Blowin Tuesday, 31 Mar 2020 at 8:25am

ALP is the voice of China. Scummo may be worse than useless but ALP would have been a step down again.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/unswerving-leadership-nsw-labor-mp-p...

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Blowin Tuesday, 31 Mar 2020 at 8:41am

From Macrobusiness :

“Yesterday afternoon, Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg officially announced that a $1,500 a fortnight “job keeper” wage subsidy will be paid to businesses to ensure they retain staff. The particulars of the agreement are as follows:

The wage subsidy package will cost $130 billion over six months.
Six million Australians are expected to utilise the scheme.
Every Australian worker that qualifies is treated the same, regardless of whether they are full-time, part-time, sole trader, or casual.
Business turnover will need to have fallen by 30% or more to be eligible for the scheme.
It is available to workers stood down from 1 March 2020.
The scheme will be delivered and enforced via the ATO to ensure that businesses pass on the payments to employees. This will relieve pressure on Centrelink.
Employees will be required to liaise with employers to receive the payments.
Those unemployed and whom do not qualify for this scheme will have to apply to Centrelink for the separate “Jobseeker” (formerly Newstart) payment, which was temporarily doubled to $1100 as part of the second stimulus package.
While the Morrison Government’s wage subsidy scheme is certainly welcome, and is a big step forward, it is still far too complicated.

Instead, the Government should have suspended all other forms of welfare payments (e.g. aged pension and Newstart) and simply paid every Australian adult with a tax file number a universal basic income of $1500 per fortnight.

Here’s how this $1500 a fortnight UBI could have worked:

UBI payments would commence within a fortnight during the usual Thursday welfare payments cycle.
Every taxpayer and welfare recipient would receive the payments.
There are no eligibility requirements to be met or bureaucratic approval needed. The money would flow automatically. Therefore, there is no need to apply to Centrelink or MyGov.
These UBI payments would supersede all existing welfare payments.
Employers that stand down workers would be exempted from paying staff entitlements or superannuation while the UBI is in effect.
The ATO would make the payments because it has almost every taxpayer’s bank account details. Everyone else can provide these via MyGov.
The UBI receipts would be counted as taxable income for the purpose of next year’s tax return lodgements. This would claw back some of the costs, especially from high income earners.
As you can see, this is a far simpler policy that treats everybody the same. It ensures everyone can meet their basic living expenses. And it requires zero bureaucratic input or approval, thereby relieving the strain on both CentreLink and myGov.

The two disadvantages of a temporary UBI against the Coalition’s wage subsidy are both political. UBI would not hide the unemployed on the books of Australian employers, thus artificially inflating the employment numbers. And it would also entail scrapping all of its misfired sitmulus efforts to date, acknowledging mistakes.

Perhaps this is why the Morrison Government has gone down the complicated wage subsidy route.

Or maybe it’s just inept.“

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Blowin Tuesday, 31 Mar 2020 at 8:46am

“They had 3 goals:
Avoid any possible comparison with labor and the $900 cheques;
Hide the unemployed on company payroll;
Facilitate ways and means of rorting for their chosen mates and industries etc.“

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I focus Tuesday, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:39am

The cynical in me wonders about where the campaign went when Labor spent $50 bil for the GFC of "how will future generations pay for all this".

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Blowin Wednesday, 1 Apr 2020 at 4:53am

Where’s Peter Dutton ?

He said he was fine 17 days ago.

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Balance Wednesday, 1 Apr 2020 at 7:55am

He is likely self isolating with a bunch of sexy french au pairs he snuck in to the country...dirty bastard

He would also be busily working on a massive bail out package for child care centres

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Blowin Wednesday, 1 Apr 2020 at 8:02am

Dutton is looking to crack down on hoarders.

Chances are he’ll overlook the fact that he owns 6 houses.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 1 Apr 2020 at 9:55am

Qld Premier : "We Pollies should be free to stroll our beaches & surf our Oceans!"
https://www.facebook.com/7NEWSGoldCoast/videos/671198753615261/

PM: "Plebs fleeced $30m to prop up Pollie's beaches are banned from their pools!"

Home Affairs Minister grows tired of defending his local Surf Spot from Plebs.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/03/officer-shoots-gun-while-chasing-surfer...

NRL teams should be given their own Island Surf Resort + $200m for a few cold ones.
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/nrl/live-players-question-why...

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 7:50am

Australian media gaslighting the public claiming that temporary visa holders are unable to return home and so we must pay for them to stay...

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/businesses-forced-to-choose-betw...

The example is given of a guest worker from Philippines. Claimed she cannot return home....

The SMH is lying to Australians to maintain house prices by maintaining demand irrespective of the inability of Australia’s health and welfare systems to cope with the needs of Australian citizens alone.

If temporary visa holders had any respect for Australians they would return to their home nations as is appropriate.

Australian unions lobbying for foreign guest workers who push wages down and compete for jobs with Australian citizens. Unions need to be disbanded and reformed as they now proactively work to undermine Australian workers......scum.

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Fliplid Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 8:18am

I Focus, Josh Frydenberg was asked a question about this the other day. Apparently he isn't "looking backwards but forwards", no point dwelling on the past hey?

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 8:51am

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/tucker-carlson-who-helped-china-c...

Tucker Carlson nailing the WHO for the shameful bunch they are.

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stunet Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:06am

Paul Joseph Watson and Tucker Carlson?

Might give that one a miss...

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:21am

Or....you could watch it and then report back just how biased and incorrect it is. Please don’t be one of those fools who dismisses something out of hand due to not liking the source. That’s the realm of the blinkered and close minded.

It goes for about 4 minutes. Watch it and tell me what you think.

I still read the Guardian even though I know that 95 percent of the time it’s knob gobbling , Fake Left shite . Got to get all viewpoints and assess them yourself. I read the SMH everyday despite expecting to find Neoliberalism shilled relentlessly.

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stunet Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:21am

"those fools who dismisses something out of hand due to not liking the source."

Yeaaaaah...and you don't undermine certain journos and sources for the same exact reasons?

Nah, anyone who thinks Sandy Hook was staged, among many other loony far-right bollocks, is off the agenda for me. A man has to have his standards.

Even if they're right on this issue I'm simply not going there.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:23am

OZ has #1 crippling GST destroying Labour, Manufacture, Housing, Nation Building
OZ has the largest loss of home grown industry & highest Housing cost.
OZ has highest Slave intake as to declining workforce (All FACTS)
Now! Will OZ please fuck off Scrooge's GST...before we degenerate into tadpoles!

Libs record tax take needs to compensate business by shipping in 3 million slaves.
Oz can now dig holes, pick fruit, stack shelves, wash dishes & spit on shit!
That's right! Who needs to build stuff when ya got slaves...

The business save on wages that silver spoons OZ Boomers Middle Class Welfare.
This also wins favour with every business & wins every election since.

eg: Each 'Reffo' bankrolls Lib kitty $650k...more than PM Johnnie's gold Card.

Asian Students make up for more than half of 2.4 - 3m VISA rorters.
Corona halts world's largest slave trade so PM is forced to do nothing.
Nothing! Yes, nothing, as these students already have free premium OZ upgrades.
tbb knows plenty of businesses with ghost white dropped faces..."Free you say!"
'Yeah! We just wave this magic Dutto Card and all doors miraculously open!'

Anyhow! We can still switch channels...
[ WSL Quarantined Surfer ] [ WA-(Artania)Tampa II ] or [ OZ-Waterfront Wars ]

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shoredump Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:46am

Are we going to protect the young and healthy from the fallout of the #boomerremover response?
Are we going to support a hard and fast over 40s tax, and a death tax, post apocalypse, to repay our debt, or are we going to lump it on the shoulders of our children so we can maintain our inflated and unsustainable lifestyles.
There’s already talk of this taking generations to repay, and opening new coal mines to help pay, so the answer is obvious.
I don’t support a response that we can’t manage ourselves. I support looking after ourselves, and leaving the world a better place than we found it.
Lockdown, yes, but clean up your own fucking mess. The community isn’t only made up of older and vulnerable people.
We are a disgrace if we don’t protect the young from the financial fallout

Shoutout to the vegan wellness generation for the viral hashtag, you made me laugh, and I continue to have your back on all things vegan.

Wet markets anyone

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:27am

Anyway , Stu.

Salient and undeniable point is that the leader of the World’s number one health agency- the WHO- is praising Chinese handling of the virus without exception and holding them up as the gold standard for response.

It then refers to the Head of emergency at Wuhan central hospital who blew the whistle on CCP cover up of the situation from go to whoa. She has since disappeared. Yes....this is another health official on the front line in Wuhan besides Li Wenliang.

Point is that the WHO is not to be trusted.

Do me a favour and watch the clip . Free your mind from the artificial constraints of “socially acceptable “ news sources .

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:31am

Stu....I may undermine the opinions of certain sources and journalists but I still listen to what they have to say and then argue the point.

Self censorship is still censorship. It’s the road taken by the feckless .

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stunet Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:32am

I told you, standards.

I don't care if they're right, it's like getting vegetarian advice from Hitler.

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:52am

I didn’t realise that Tucker Carlson was responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews ?

Anyway, where else are you going to get the information that the corrupted MSM doesn’t want you to see ?

Michael West has his little beat and serves it well . What about global issues?

If you’d dared expose your sensitivities to 3:30 minutes of Tucker Carlson you might have gained some insight. I’m not familiar with any Sandy Hook story you are referring to . I just know that this story is worth hearing on its merits.

Just cause a break is shit when you visit it once , doesn’t mean it’s not worth checking once in a while. Particularly if someone else said they’ve had good waves there recently.

Free your mind.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:01am

"I still read the Guardian even though I know that 95 percent of the time it’s knob gobbling , Fake Left shite . Got to get all viewpoints and assess them yourself. I read the SMH everyday despite expecting to find Neoliberalism shilled relentlessly."

100% agree

IMHO the best way to get your news is to look at all spectrums, the truth is almost always somewhere between.

Like it or not most media has bias and intentionally look at things from one angle or leave very important facts out.

BTW. China made this mess, it's their governments fault it happened by allowing even encouraging wet markets with wild animals, they also knew the virus was an issue but didn't contain it.

But that said IF we can believe the numbers, they have since controlled things pretty good.

Three countries now have more cases of the virus than China, USA is off the charts 213,000 cases compared to Chinas 81,000

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stunet Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:03am

"I didn’t realise that Tucker Carlson was responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews"

?????

No idea what that even means.

Hitler was a vegetarian, but he was also batshit crazy, so even the things he said that sounded sane would have to be questioned?

Kapiche..?

I read a lot of media....I'll repeat for emphasis, A LOT OF MEDIA, and of all political stripes, but there are some I just wont go to because they've been proven wrong so many times I simply can't trust anything further they have to say.

If someone tells 99 lies, only a fool would think the next one will be true.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:05am

BTW. Victoria is such a Farking nanny state, fishing & hunting is currently banned even if alone (but public transport still operating, which does my head in surely this is the most high risk place anywhere)

NSW & QLD though have used common sense and still allowed fishing and hunting as long as don't break other rules, like distance traveled & only one or two people etc.

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:14am

Not sure what your beef with Tucker Carlson is.

I’ve watched a bit of his stuff lately and to call it 99 percent lies is , ironically enough, a lie.

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Blowin Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:18am

Victoria has banned fishing and hunting ?

Fuck that. They are inalienable human rights.

What is more responsible.....catching a fish alone on a rock or buying a fish at a supermarket which requires dozens of human interactions to be possible ?

It’s like the UK being in lockdown. Only essential travel . And then watching dozens of planes land every hour at Heathrow and crew disembarking then catching taxis wherever the fuck they like.

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wally Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:30am

Stunet wrote, ”If someone tells 99 lies” , which is not saying 99% of what he says is lies. Stunet is saying Tucker Carlson has a long track record of lying, which is true, I think.

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Balance Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:36am

Indo you forgot to mention the premier also stated in a news conference that partners weren't even allowed to visit each other...at their place of residence...dam. need to say the interpretation of the rules was later reversed

I did work out that you could still comply with social distancing rules and enjoy some romance...as long as your dick is a metre and a half long...you wear a condom...you could still technically get a blow job

Ok for me, but not the masses