Interesting stuff

Total school holiday vibe down here this morning, all age groups at cafes, lots of walkers/runners on the waterfront, parents & kids on bikes, or doing beach play. Busy, cars parked quite thick on the foreshore car parks. Numbers in water about on par for a Saturday.

This is a great book. The author, Lolo, survived famine in the low countries near Germany in the latter part of WW2, and took away from it a lifelong growing habit. It's geared for SA but will work in all of Southern Australia.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7492176-one-magic-square

Strongly recommended, from memory 10squares is all you need.

Public schools won't close anytime soon as teachers are the country's baby sitters. If they were to close, what will all the emergency services, doctors, nurses, etc that are parents, going to do, as they won't be letting their kiddies stay at home alone.

School's will close soon for two weeks, school holidays are coming, Victoria start school holidays in less than a week other states not long after.

I believe that in England they are partially closing schools. Staying open only for health care worker's kids and minimal staff in attendance. Maybe good option for here.

I have a feeling schools here will close with the upcoming holiday period and stay shut until at least September, possibly next year.

Uni students around the Globe want a redo or money back...

Most schools are shutting
UK/ North schools open mostly as Child care to allow Parent Health workers
Example in Australia...
Oz Christian School Health Parents 80%
State School Health Parents 30%
[VISAS] 20-40,000 back up (Extended Stay for Coronavirus) PM- Weigh it up?

Oz Libraries All English Language Lessons Closed (see VISAS) > Needles Ouch?
All Community Classes are shut +
Computers are few reflecting Govt space rules...can't rewire a whole new hub!

Oz Doctors / Private Schools / Principals / Teachers all want OZ schools shut.
Govt say 6months is the Repeat Year cut off ... similar to US 175 school days!
World is screaming out Repeat Year is inevitable...Oz say Never Ever No Way!
Oz Wide spread packed schools would each need an extra wing to cope with redo!.
PM will never comply & will go it alone if need be...(Zombies won't be repeating!)

Examples(Qld State Prep Year + Grade 7 > Grade 8) > approx 3 years Upgrade...
Repeat means Oz would need classrooms for 50,000 extra students by Jan 2021
In current climate that is not fair or realistic. (Tear Up School Truancy Rules!)

All believe OZ PM will burn the Books this Week...
Just to save face as not one kid will go back to school after 26th March is the call.
tbb has said Maccas is flat out & needs full time little slaves & PM is in the way!

Online Education Crooks are preying on Grade 12 Students (Now desperate)
Govt has no preferred or Sanctioned Online provider + Very few are Qualified!
100's of different provider plans & Speeds..no two are similar.
Class of 2020 can't repeat, can't go to school, Parents aren't signed in!
They are fucked... need a miracle to make a Uni grade...(No Graduation Proms!)
Still...all have booked schoolies no doubt!

Govt! Home Education requires back ground checks on every parent (1 month)
Under current conditions (3-4 months Background Checks + Parent/Student Plans)
This must be rock solid as existing Home schooling. (PM moved way too slow!)
The 2020 kids year is fucked thanks to Dopey PM....

Online private schools wear uniform each day & sit around same teachers..
These kids know they win all OZ CEO jobs for next 4 years.
Yes! 4 years is the length of time from Katrina School kids took to recover!

Oz will see PM's funded Rich Kids simply squash poor diseased state school losers!
Mummy! Can I have a private Tutor!
Several Private / Boarding schools have long shut & still studying for Top Jobs.

No Naplan Test this Year!

25%-50% of Oz Students are staying home...Teachers are ready to walk.
Most say PM we'll pull the pin this week (PM has lost control + no Online Plan B )
No: Assemblies, Excursions,Fetes, Sports Carnivals, Concerts, Parent Meetings.
Church, Gyms, Table distance Rules (Desk space grows as Classrooms shrink!)

tbb apologizes for mixed up layout! Changes so fast this does!

We’re in gods hands, apparently

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/former-government-minister-offer...

This is the reason I don’t believe a word this guy says

This is from November 2018 and already had Smoko picked as a rude, aggressive, evasive prick who had a shady history.

And considering his religious fundamentalism it's probably not surprising that he appears to be a bigot and a homophobe.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2018/november/1540990800/sean-kelly/...

If it was NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard who signed off on the cruise ship corona cases being let loose to wander around Sydney that cunt needs to be escorted from the building by security Monday morning with his shit in a cardboard box.

What do i do for a living Blowin
I'm just a garbage man

This weeks poor handling of the virus and its resulting clusterfuck is "just the lemon next to the pie"

Guardian reporter Ben Smee has more on the docking of the Ruby Princess cruise ship in Sydney.
NSW health minister Brad Hazzard has told reporters that in hindsight, he would have waited for coronavirus test results first before letting passengers disembark.

See ya Monday Brad

Anyone else on here waiting for Government response to keep infected population out of unaffected areas . Business as usual with SMOKO and MIRACLES.

I am in area with no reported cases, Lots of friends and business associates are pulling kids out of school and themselves from work for safety of immune compromised family members or themselves.

The worst leadership in Australia's History is at this stage releasing the masses across the country for Holidays to infect unaffected areas ....... Solid Gold

anyhow Stuck some twin fins in my single today was pleasantly surprised

I heard the interview today on RN, even the health minister or whoever it was trying to defend letting them off even though" some showed signs of a sniffle or cold but not of the virus ", fuck me , NSW is Italy in 2 weeks

Nice find Blowin will be disseminating
I'm sorry when i passed out in your closet, but I never, and I don't know who could have if I didn't, but I never, and I repeat never, ever pissed in your steam iron."

Could be a generation of kids repeating a year I heard. Crazy times indeed

"Dont take my lighter, a general gave me that lighter"

Thanks TBB for your last post re. schools. Some salient points to consider.

"Just the lemon next to the pie. It's gonna get bigger."

Thanx mattlock: Here's those main educational sources...
Note: Some media are kindly knocking down Paywalls for Corona stories.

https://www.goondiwindiargus.com.au/story/6688398/we-need-closure-date-s...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-18/coronavirus-pandemic-schools-to-s...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/parents-are-voting-with-thei...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/thousands-of-australian-do...

(*Repeat Year!) Also above....
note: Oz students will blow pass requirement but Govt can't build 50,000 (wiki) new classes for repeat year.
Past examples of cram a refresher into 1st term of next grade but Senior Year & Unis must buy a pass.
Past studies (Katrina) show it will take 4 years for state schools to return to normal grades.
(Online Private Schools) Grades 9,10,11,12 (are 6 mths ahead) & will scoop best Jobs 2020-24.
Sorry tbb can't supply all links (Way to many) Just ask if there's one you require!

What % of the worlds population has died from this virus? What % of those deaths were at the end of their career?
Create a fear,push that fear and you own the people.
A compliant population is one that is easily controlled.

"And considering his religious fundamentalism it's probably not surprising that he appears to be a bigot and a homophobe."

And?

This is just the way we like 'em in Australia.

Oi!

73 years coming up, cunts

The general consensus among the 50 or so elderly that I’ve spoken with about this is that us younger generation have grown up in nothing but good times, while they’ve had newspaper on nails in the outdoor dunny, newspaper on the windows so the bombers couldn’t see the light, and parents that grew up in the depression. What’s happening now is nothing new, people are so caught up in their own cotton wool lives, and what’s happening is just a deflation of an unrealistic expectation of what life is about. People forget we are animals on a rock in a life and death struggle for survival. Didn’t anybody listen to their grandfathers stories. The reality is there’s more to come and my tip is that it will be climate driven. Strap yourselves in folks you ain’t seen nothing yet, and is the reason I continue to try to harden you softies up.

@blowin re the export of medical solvents. You have been quoting the Oils lately... who can stand in the way when there is a dollar to be made....
Can only hope that report is either incorrect or has been sorted now. Germany, China etc have stopped export of medical products such as ventilators and masks weeks ago.

China were positioning to invade us this last decade, and I have no doubt they were complicit in at least a couple of steps in the spread of this disease, for the primary goal to gain a good relative footing. What we need now is a triage nurse because there are several major issues facing us this decade whether you want to gaslight me on that or not is up to you, but you have unfortunately missed my point and it will be to the detriment of the majority

"The general consensus among the 50 or so elderly that I’ve spoken with about this is that us younger generation have grown up in nothing but good times, while they’ve had newspaper on nails in the outdoor dunny, newspaper on the windows so the bombers couldn’t see the light, and parents that grew up in the depression. What’s happening now is nothing new, people are so caught up in their own cotton wool lives, and what’s happening is just a deflation of an unrealistic expectation of what life is about. People forget we are animals on a rock in a life and death struggle for survival. Didn’t anybody listen to their grandfathers stories. The reality is there’s more to come and my tip is that it will be climate driven. Strap yourselves in folks you ain’t seen nothing yet, and is the reason I continue to try to harden you softies up."

100%

This forum has been fall of whingers for year whinging about all kinds of petty crap, while in reality we have been through a complete golden period of time.

At least they now have something real to whinge about, and in the next year or years will have much more to whinge about, and like ive said before (not even that long ago), you are all going to look back on the last 20-30 years as the golden years, especially economically.

Indo and shoredump, have either of you two tried to buy a house in the last 10 years?

My dad bought a block of land as a third year apprentice for $10,000. And it just happened that in a year he earnt $10,000 at that stage.

I have a fourth year apprentice who earns about $41,000 a year, and that wage would only get him a 10% deposit on a block these days. In the same area.

Yes we’ve had it easy in A LOT of areas the last generation, but don’t either of you tell me that there’s nothing to whinge about this day and age.

Funny you should mention that goofy, I’ve worked part time almost my whole life, never been interested in toys, only travel, family and friends, but as my daughter began to walk and talk a bit of gravity hit. 10 years ago I bought my first home, with zero savings, close to some great waves and within a doable distance of my 25-30hr a week near min wage job pouring tea and coffee. Some hard yakka renovating sees us in our 2nd nicer home now, without too much of a mortgage. Yeah every generation has its troubles, I mean we’ve got justin beiber to contend with now, but relatively speaking, yeah nah

how'd you get a mortgage with zero savings?

Good question fr76

Shoredump that’s a good effort doing that on 25-30 hours a week too. Well done. You’ve done something right!

Real-estate is possibly the only area i can understand people whinging about, but high real-estate prices are generally a product of a healthy economy, yeah sure there are other aspects that have inflated prices too, but a healthy economy is the main driver.

With a 40K wage you could still get into the market with an investment property somewhere else, I've been looking at places around the $100-$150K mark that have very good rental returns, yeah sure they are pretty average places and often in rough areas with low unemployment but its possible even in areas near decent waves, two examples are Kempsey in NSW near Crescent and Portland in Victoria other areas in SA.

It's how i got into the market and how my sister got into the market, both only 15 years ago and no we both weren't living at home.

To save my deposit i saved 18K on a 35K wage in one year, basically didn't do anything for the whole year just work, surf my local beach, didnt drink or party or go out i didn't even buy my lunch once and just lived in a caravan at a caravan park, i was living on the sunny coast at the time and had no chance of buying in there, so had to buy elsewhere luckily i found the second cheapest house where i now live (and grew up), tiny house but i could afford it and ive since more than doubled the size of the house. (done it all myself bar electrical & plumbing) my house is now worth almost three times i paid for it and my mortgage payments are much less than what we would pay in rent if we had to rent.

Actually I had an $8000 credit card debit as well, walked in and just asked the bank if I could use the first home buyers grant to pay off my credit card and the required mortgage insurance, they said sure, sit down. It was that easy. That’s some good times. To be fair to goofy it was 11 years ago...

Goofy, does your apprentice drive a 40k ute and like a beer and a slap on the pokies by chance.

It’s not hard if you live within your means, but agree melbourne / Sydney, forget it, and last 10 years has gone to shit for first home buyers

So the only area he can afford is a place with low unemployment which means there’s a chance he won’t be able to find a find a job to pay his mortgage? Doesn’t seem right to me

SD na he drives a price of shit 4wd, but being honest he’s not great with his money. Festivals, partying etc etc. at 20 years of age that’s all I was thinking about too ha ha

Fair enough, youth is meant to be loose.
I was in my 30s before I got my act together

The point is its still possible to get into the market, if you think outside the box.

Especially if you were young living with mates sharing living cost you can purchase a cheap rental property, the location is almost irrelevant it doesn't need to be a place you want to live, but IMHO better if it still not 100km inland.

For example just looking at places in Kempsey (there is places cheaper than this) but this one is my pick https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-south+kempsey-131648234

Solid 3 bed brick place on a decent sized block, not super modern but not old either.

Lots of potential to add value, pimp up the front with nice landscaping with hardy tenant proof plants, throw a nice deck off the back and landscape the backyard, could even render it in the future.

A completely realistic entry into the realestate market with heaps of potential.

So many possibilities still, especially for those that can pool into together with friends or family to get into the market.

BTW. how's this $25K for a block on the east coast 30 minutes or so from a beautiful coast with some fun waves, yeah sure you need to get rid of it, but cheap if you did it yourself.

Would have to look into local regulations, but you could even just throw up one of those shed type house, ideally its already hooked up to mains septic

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-residential+land-nsw-west+kempsey...

Well i do a lot of repair work in rental properties caused by tenants and ive lost count of how many owners say to me 'never again'......just not worth it........people show no respect to others properties.....

A few thoughts on your last post Blowin'. First, you'd go hydro, not outdoors. Quicker grow time and easier to control and keep hidden. Don't steal power, just pay the bill. Second, no mates. Friendship, dope and money "boil in water". Guys end up killing each other. Third is the big problem, when you've got $100k worth of dope, who buys that? Criminals is the answer, hey presto, you are now a gangster. Not worth it, just get a job and save your money, short cutting through dope growing is a fools game. I know, I was a fool.

I have a mate who did it Adams way- hydro, low key, one man op, rented his place to an old fella that gave the impression that just a lonely old man lived there, kept the place neat and tidy.

Paid his way through UQ and bought inner city Brisbane property before the boom.

Killing it to say the least.