Interesting stuff

The same bloke who goes to church and autographs bibles for the 'followers'

Strongly recommended:

The BBC's 6 part series on the Spanish Civil War, made perhaps in the late 1970s, before that institution became hopelessly partisan. It's as well balanced a presentation as you will see of the widening political divide, momentous events, initially farcical combat, then increasingly serious and deadly results.

The divisions between the Republicans, caught between monarchy and chaos, the socialists, the anarchists; and the more traditional landowners, church and military will be seen. While the Republican government tries to make it all work, it will be Franco (with his moorish division) who prevails, leaving great bitterness for more than a generation.

VJ, My grandfather went off to fight the fascists with my great uncle when they were in their late teens and early twenties. They were stopped at the border leaving England. They both went off and fought the Germans a few years later. #original ANTIFA.

Speaking of which VL, my great aunt was smuggled out of Nazi Germany by her English husband - they were on the trouble list, given her two brothers were in the German version of the #original ANTIFA.

Small world, eh

So Vic Local sounds more like they didnt go and fight fascists as they were stopped at the border? ,then joined up for ww2 like everybody of fighting age in the UK at the time. What is your point by the way? That your are a genetic anti fascist legend? Cool mate, must be a medal out there for you somewhere.

Meanwhile in Australia...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-hi...

I wonder what kind of chemical agent it was?

Y'know, 'cos that's the main question and all...

We've all probably wondered

https://twitter.com/RealSaleemJuma/status/1267723376023334913

Raiding ATMs using explosive charges.

LOL vj the OrwellnGoode twitter post.
Had to watch several times.
Screaming Chick nearly breaks teeth coz she didn't bother to open the door.
Stoopid!

VJ, good to see the Wolverine showed up in that Twitter post! just not sure whose side he was on.
It is crazy how quickly society can degenerate in the States. Wonder what sort of explosives they use and where they get it from. There was a guy on break from a mine where I worked once who took a couple dets and blew up a dunny in a hotel in Darwin. That was a federal offence and the company got in a lot of trouble.

There is so much misinformation in all sides of the media it is hard to know what is really happening Blowin. Why would the cops be wearing gas masks but only shooting smoke canisters? Can you believe an editor from Fox News or Reuters? I don’t know.
There is also the deliberate manipulation of the rioters/protesters by both left and right wing fanatics. How’s this Umbrella Man story.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/who-is-umbrella-man-speculatio...

@Blowin,

The Federalist defence has already been proven as horeshit.

“No tear gas was used, and no rubber bullets were used,” White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters Wednesday, echoing similar claims from the U.S. Park Police and the president’s allies.

McEnany was correct, but only to the extent that police did not use products labeled “tear gas” and “rubber bullets.”

The Park Police acknowledged firing “pepper balls,” a projectile munition that lofts irritant powder into the air, and “smoke canisters” to scatter the crowd Monday.

So it's technically correct that tear gas wasn't used - hooray Donald, take a bow The Federalist - but instead they used a chemical irritant and smoke cannisters, and that's all good!

Seen among the protestors at Portland, Oregon:

That facemask should throw off the facial recognition software!

Kept the mask on all the way home.

Playing it safe.

Congrats, Blowie, you're the gift that just keeps on giving.

Third times a gas re: using that Federalist article.

First Trump, then Sepp, then you!

Great minds and stable geniuses think alike!

Check the previous page for the sorry saga again.

For someone who admitted they know fuck all about Trump, and apropos US politics (even wore it as a badge of sorts), what is your reason for comment, Blowie? Actually, extrapolating out to most, if not all of your commentary here, there, and everywhere, what is your raison d'etre period?

As has been noted before, it's always illuminating.

Not the content, but the intent.

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society."

That ain't Caeser the No Drama Llama talking but General James Mattis, who Trump appointed as Secretary of State.

And on the motivation to protest:

"It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation."

"When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside."

pretty damning, but i guess the apologists will just say that he has an axe to grind against his former boss & that it is just a fake left conspiracy or whatever the trendy saying of the day is

in other news, spend 150k on a reno to get 25k from scomoron, more welfare for the well off?

"Some 50 years ago", hey General Mattis? Just after Kent State? Though that was the National Guard, I guess.

And weren't the army on standby in California during the LA Riots in 1992?

Then again, who can forget (or remember, man) 'Operation Green Sweep'?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Green_Sweep

Fake news from the MSM?

Seeing this American cop come through and assault an Aussie female journo doing her job despite being identified is hard to stomach.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/04/australian-reporters-assau...

Trump is sanctifying this lawlessness amongst his cops/troops.

Thats a pretty scary development.

Blowin, I thought your instincts were anti-authoritarian?
This is straight out of the jackboots textbook.

"An article penned by Andrew Bolt about teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg being “deeply disturbed” and a “strange girl” with “so many mental disorders” did not treat the issues of mental heath and disabilities appropriately, Australia’s press watchdog has ruled."

"In its defence of the article, News Corp, publisher of the Herald Sun and The Daily Telegraph, said it is entirely reasonable to describe Thunberg in such a way."

https://mumbrella.com.au/andrew-bolts-takedown-of-greta-thunberg-breache...

Your 10.10 comment stu, powerful stuff.

Last night I heard an interesting notion about how democracy has been performing over the last decade or so around the world.

It’s about how in the context of hyper partisan politics the losers of elections don’t let those that win govern cleanly and how the constant white anting of the opposition is creating further divisions in society. Republicans treatment of Obama was cited as an example.

There’s votes in division

would there be as much division without social media?

Abbott, ya mean Guy?

AND he was Bolt's main man!

What a neat tie-in.

Abbott also both against Gillard and Turnbull, what a warrior

you misspelled wanker there, guy

"in other news, spend 150k on a reno to get 25k from scomoron, more welfare for the well off?"
And from that 25k you can deduct drafting fees, planning application fees, building application fees, plumbing application fees and private certifier costs which you will need to get the grant. That should leave you about 10 bucks to buy a basin trap from Bunnings.

yeah more smoke and mirrors i reckon, lets look like we're doing something without having to actually do (& or spend) anything

will be interesting to see what the take up is like (assuming it gets through both houses)

synchro I don't know who thinks this shit up. It's supermarket mentality. Buy 2 items to save a pittance even if you don't need the second one. Most mom & pop shows would probably be thinking maybe just a new bathroom or kitchen so this deal isn't for them. As you say just more savings for the well off. Now if they said spend $50k and we'll give you $25k then the uptake would be much larger and the money would go more towards your small construction businesses/tradie set ups rather than to the larger businesses and architects that will jump on the gravy train like they did last time when Kevin Dudd splashed some cash around for the building industry.

"An article penned by Andrew Bolt about teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg being “deeply disturbed” and a “strange girl” with “so many mental disorders” did not treat the issues of mental heath and disabilities appropriately, Australia’s press watchdog has ruled."

"In its defence of the article, News Corp, publisher of the Herald Sun and The Daily Telegraph, said it is entirely reasonable to describe Thunberg in such a way."

100% it's a very fair description, to say she is not disturbed, and a normal girl without mental health conditions that would be a complete lie.

She is obviously disturbed that is very clear.

Im sure we can agree she is a strange girl and far from normal.

And even her wiki page says she has a few mental disorders

"Mental health

Eventually, she was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism. In one of her first speeches demanding climate action, Thunberg described the selective mutism aspect of her condition as meaning she "only speaks when necessary".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg

'Bruce Pascoe’s Dark Emu tendered as evidence in whacko-right conspiracy'

The “rising movement” of whacko conspiracy theorists in Australia — the whole QAnon, shape-shifting lizards stuff — has found a new recruit in Josephine Cashman, and the mainstream right has a new embarrassment.

In the past few days, Cashman has sent out a storm of tweets alleging that the sinister international global conspiracy is manifested in Australia by… the success of Bruce Pascoe’s book Dark Emu.  

Remember Josephine Cashman?

The top end Indigenous businesswoman and former prosecutor found brief fame last year during the all-out assault on Pascoe and Dark Emu by the conservatoriat.

Cashman provided Andrew Bolt with a letter which purported to be from Yolngu elder Terry Yumbulul attacking Pascoe as a fabulist. Yumbulul denied he had written the letter; Cashman claimed she had written it “for” him.

At the same time, Cashman fell out with onetime mentor Marcia Langton, and Black Inc. publisher Morry Schwartz, both of whom were on the board of Cashman’s Indigenous bootstrapping Big River Impact foundation, after Cashman made wild allegations about organised crime in Indigenous groups and launched her attacks on Pascoe (who is published by Black Inc.).

Schwartz (disclaimer: he is a publisher of mine, one of the lucky ones, who actually got a book) has a soft spot for “iconoclastic” Indigenous leaders — practical business types, none of your abstract theorising and wigging out spectacularly,

Cashman has certainly been hard-headed and dewigging in the past 48 hours, putting out a blizzard of tweets about Dark Emu, Schwartz and… George Soros, of course.

This tweet serves as a summary of the torrent:

Yes, Cashman is going dank emu, getting into the international Soros conspiracy.

Her near continual stream of tweets yesterday repeats the familiar charge that the protests in current US unrest are being paid for by Soros, through Antifa, that the Chinese Communist Party is involved and much much more.

Cashman’s Australian twist appears to be that the publication of Dark Emu, and kids’ version Young Dark Emu, is part of the global conspiracy, Schwartz apparently working hand in glove with his 17th cousin, George ‘Schwartz’ Soros.

Call it what it is. This is anti-Semitism from the lower depths, and with an extra twist straight out of the playbook: that Jews are manipulating simple black people for their own nefarious ends.

That idea has the distinction of being deployed by both the KKK and the Nation of Islam in the past. Cashman’s flurry of tweets on this matter and her conviction that Dark Emu is central to a global conspiracy suggests an… erm… manic enthusiasm for her new found political faith.

Will her onetime champions, especially Andrew Bolt, now call her out on it?

Don’t hold your breath. Bolt sailed pretty close to the wind, during the Abbott government’s 18C review, after he accused Jewish community peak bodies of ingratitude and disloyalty to him when they backed retention of the law. (Heh, you know who else accused the Jews of disloyalty?)

Mind you, a lot of the Likudnik-dominated peak bodies are pretty slow to call out anti-Semitism on the mainstream right, as manifested in the writings of, for example, Nine political editor Chris Uhlmann.

Their support for Israel is too important to squander on the remorseless spread of old-skool anti-Semitism on the global “respectable” right. 

Meanwhile for the right, Cashman is now just another hero/martyr figure who has crumbled to dust.

She joins Lord Monckton (climate denier turned Obama birther), Milo Yiannopoulos (cheeky conservative turned man-boy-sex defender) and Jordan Peterson (inspirational scourge of victimhood and champion of enlightenment common sense, addicted to painkillers; who cold-turkied in Russia following a mental breakdown) in the avenue of open-mouthed laughing clowns that is the contemporary right.

Planet Janet Albrechtsen and Andrew Bolt have written gushingly about most of them. They’re either so stupid we should try and sell them a timeshare, or they don’t care that these hero figures have a limited shelf life.

Meanwhile, given the steady rise in right-wing anti-Semitic attacks in Australia (we can presume it wasn’t the Deakin Uni BDS collective who sprayed swastikas on the greens of the Jewish-community founded Cranbourne golf course recently), we hope that Cashman will get off the Jewish conspiracy hunting and onto shape-shifting lizards as soon as possible.

I mean have you ever asked what Bruce Pascoe is hiding behind that big beard of his? Gills, sheeple, he’s got gills! Open your eyes!

-Guy Rundle on Crikey

Maybe listen to their own words:
2017 Beverly Hills Antifa
"George Soros Where's Our Money?"

https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/bricks-fires-frozen-bottle...

"Police intelligence units have uncovered encrypted and walkie-talkie communications as well as social media postings that coordinate the delivery and hiding of weapons and projectiles and the direction of anarchists to specific locations at specific times.

In essence, these professional rioters have created command-and-control apparatus as well as supply chains unseen in prior riots "

Ha ha ha....nice one.

Seems a bit odd they'd ask publicly, and then it would show up on a channel called #SeekingTheTruth - "Learn What the Gov doesn't want you to know about" - which has as much merit as The Federalist.

By odd of course I mean hugely suspicious.

And by hugely suspicious I mean most likely a big pile of steaming horseshit.

Believe what you want I guess....

So why make a fuss about this? It's in a country far away that many here do not like.

The reason exists within the link above I posted to the Spanish Civil War. Once something like that goes live, the two sides give no quarter. There are countless examples of the swing - the Right moves through a town, all the Left are killed. The Left takes the town back, the Right are killed. What ends up is wholesale slaughter.

Also, if you look at the history of successful communist revolutions, once the vanguard group manages to overturn the executive/policing/military of a country, it is inevitably turned upon the civilians and we get massacre, perhaps 90 million in Russia, millions in Cambodia, 50 million in China. We get starvation massacres like the Holodomor (about 30+ million of the USSR total). If you look at the vanguard groups themselves, they don't do it on their own, they are helped.

So if one truly loves life, and values all opinion and peoples, the logical approach is to call out the nefarious organising going on in the background, with the hope that most rational people see it and do not succumb to its hatred. It is much better to debate the Left vs Right in an open forum/soapbox than reach a stage where only murder will suffice.

Funny how when the right are in power and fuck things up completely it still manages to be the lefts fault. You alt.right fuckheads that post here need to get your heads out of your arses.

Because you're gaslighting a popular protest that's why - and like the General earlier said, the protestors are making a wholesome and unifying demand.

But you appear not to agree with that?

And you disagreed multiple times, all of them from one point of view, so you're not impartial, and you're using bogus references that are proven again and again to be fake. You've got to provide something more rigorous.

PS: What do these protests have to do with Communism?

from the cops in the link vj posted

“We had no idea the power of social media. We do now. It is how these folks are communicating in these riots,” he said

well blow me down with a feather, in my day it was 2 cans and a piece of string

also mentions they are using encrypted communication to plan things, but if the communication is encrypted how do the police know the content...

That's disappointing from Josephine Cashman i follow her on social media and she seems to be really playing things up to a far right demographic at the moment i guess to raise her profile and gain more followers so she has more of a voice, and i guess also out of frustration of the attacks from the left on her (like this guy who sounds like a complete far left wanker trying to link anything he can to her to bring her down)

It is disappointing though she should just stick to indigenous issues and take a more central approach to gain a broader diverse range of followers like Jacinta price (who is still right leaning) has, it might take more time but it would give her more credibility, it's a pity especially at this time with the media playing on the whole race thing she should be focussing on that area instead.

That whole other incident was pretty dodgy though, something doesn't add up there, i mean she is a lawyer obviously quite smart, absolutely crazy to think she would write a fake letter and think she was going to get away with it, if just doesn't add up, it more likely he agreed to it and then something has happened after it went public.

I shake my head and write furious comments in red texta when students cite spurious references in uni work. In their defence they're kids, well mostly late teenagers, and they're supporting arguments they don't necessarily believe in.

Commenters here have neither excuse.

Ah, Cashman...

What a spectacular name for a grifter!

Rundle on the money again.

As for A. Bolt and Greta, who remembers our very own Info Dreamin' and his classic "annoying little bitch"?

Oh how we laughed.

"Oh how we laughed."

Im guessing "We" as in "Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin & Snuffy"

Well, your mate Blowin laughed.

There were more than a few who thought very much otherwise.

And your pissweak excuses didn't wash either.

Much like A. Bolt actually.

Nice DC.
Hanson is so desperate for an indigenous friend she grabbed hold of Cashman. Two synergistic grifters right there.
"annoying little bitch"? Really Indo-dreaming. A touch misogynist don't you think. Your fragile masculinity can't handle a very intelligent teenage girl. Try to be a better person.

"Try to be a better person":

Bahhhhhaa coming from you.

Saw this one from a couple of weeks ago, but still as appropriate today as it was then, especially with release of today's housing-industry-stimulus-package......but then again I guess it applies to every day for Scomo and Co.

And then there's Trump "the bombs never hit you when you're down so low" leader of the so-called free world.