Vaccinate or not
Chairman of the Tokyo metropolitan medical association on the use of ivermectin , the list of countries currently using ivermectin is growing . https://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article/123988. Haruo Ozaki, Chairman of the Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association
Haruo Ozaki, chairman of the Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association, held an emergency press conference on the 13th, saying that the number of people infected with the new coronavirus has increased rapidly. I can't say that. "
[Related article] Congested around the Olympic venue ... Governor Koike dismissed the expert's point "You mentioned in the impression theory" Since
18,000 new infected people are reported daily, "it will be ranked high in the world" It is also true that the number of deaths is small. I would like to deal with it again with a sense of crisis. "
The average number of newly infected people in Tokyo for 7 days was 3934 per day as of the 11th, which is about twice that of 2 weeks ago. "It's really normal people, and they're getting more and more infected. It's not the stage to think that it's a disease only for those who go out to play at night," he said.
He said the medical field was full and appealed to the government, "I want you to show a clear exit strategy." Based on the fact that the infection is spreading beyond the metropolitan areas, "The situation is that the whole country is suffering from disasters. No one will listen to me, so I will come up with a new policy. "
Regarding the antiparasitic drug "ivermectin", it shows the number of infections and deaths of the new corona in a country that is prophylactically administered for another disease in Africa. It is necessary to thoroughly study the clinical trial, but it seems that we are at the stage where it is okay to have the patient give an informed outlet and get permission to use it. "
Authored by former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield and NYU clinical professor Dr. Marc Siegel, the Op-Ed calls out the Chinese government for preventing the CDC from visiting Wuhan, China or the Wuhan Institute of Virology in early 2020 - which forced US investigators to "put together the circumstantial pieces of the puzzle on our own."
The doctors note:
On Sept. 12, 2019, coronavirus bat sequences were deleted from the institute’s database. Why? It changed the security protocols for the lab. Why? It put out requests for more than $600 million for a new ventilation system. What prompted this new need?
In January 2020 two hypotheses emerged about the origin of the novel coronavirus: that it began in a bat, then infected another animal before spreading to humans in a Wuhan “wet market,” where wild animals are sold for meat; or that it emerged from the Wuhan laboratory. The wet-market story was pushed by the Chinese CDC and the World Health Organization. Public-health leaders argued that Covid-19 was like SARS and MERS, earlier coronaviruses that emerged from bats and spread through an intermediate animal.
But neither of those viruses has ever evolved to the point where it can transmit efficiently from one human to the next. There have been fewer than 10,000 cases of each virus world-wide since SARS was discovered in 2003 and MERS in 2012. What virus comes out of a bat cave and infects humans by the millions? It’s not biologically plausible. If instead it evolved slowly over many years in nature, how come no one knew of it? -WSJ
What does bear investigation, they write, is the hypothesis that SARS-CoV-2 was "taught" to infect humans using humanized mice (grafted with human tissue and immune cells) in order to test whether the virus's 'cleavage site' was manipulated to more easily infect a human cell.
They also note a "growing body of circumstantial evidence" supporting the lab-leak theory - including info gleaned by the US State Department that Wuhan lab workers fell ill with Covid-like symptoms in the fall of 2019.
The story of SARS-Cov-2 started long before January 2020. We believe the virus was most likely uncontained in a laboratory where it was being worked on, and that it escaped unintentionally. A Harvard study of satellite images revealed a shutdown of traffic around the Wuhan lab in the late summer and early fall of 2019. Weeks later, in late September, the hospital parking lots were filling up.
There were hallmarks of scientific arrogance and failures in the containment system. China’s CDC initially appeared to be out of the loop but later became a key messenger, selling the natural-origin and wet-market theory. Another apparent misdirection was several key scientists’ insistence on a narrow definition of “gain of function” research to include remodeling, overt bioengineering, shaping or constructing a virus. As far as we’re concerned, if a virus is taught to or evolves in a lab to infect human tissue more efficiently, that’s gain of function. -WSJ
According to the doctors, there is a 'global need' to know the truth, because it affects how we approach the problem, and "variants are emerging rapidly that continue to change the game. All this is in keeping with a virus that more likely jumped from a bat to a lab, not to a rat or a rabbit."
Until we know what happened in Wuhan, Redfield and Siegel have called for a moratorium on so-called 'gain-of-function' research while authorities carefully craft policy to avoid the next pandemic .
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Interesting Simba, any word when Oxford's trial results are due?
Here comes the official narrative adjustment.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/breakthrough-covid-19-cases-may-...
Hmmmm….not exactly what we were told until recently is it? Just change the story-easy!
“The vaccines were never tested to prevent transmission, only symptomatic disease, “
@craig , trial is up and running, not sure when results will be in . https://www.principletrial.org/ Concerns raised by FLCCC and BIRD. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 1, 2021
CONTACT:
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Joint Statement of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance and British Ivermectin Recommendation Development Group on the Unethical and Questionable Methods of the Upcoming PRINCIPLE Trial by Oxford University
The latest trial to test the efficacy of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 is poorly designed and will deprive some ill patients of any medicine.
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a group of highly published, world-renowned critical care physicians and scholars, and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development Group (BIRD), a U.K. based group of medical and scientific experts from over 16 countries, issued a joint letter today to the investigator of the PRINCIPLE trial at Oxford University explaining a list of concerns over the trial’s design and raising questions about the ethics of conducting such a trial.
In the letter, FLCCC and BIRD voice their deep concern for the health of participants in the trial. The design of the trial will require several participants who are suffering from COVID-19 symptoms to not receive any treatment for the illness. The consequences of such a design could be catastrophic. Depriving patients of any treatment will likely cause more suffering and in some cases, even death. The groups question the need for such a design when the latest research shows beyond a doubt that ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19 at any state of the disease.
“The design of the study is highly unethical. There is absolutely no need to keep a lifesaving treatment from a group of patients to find out if it works,” said Dr. Pierre Kory, president and chief medical officer of the FLCCC. “This goes against everything we swore an oath to as doctors. The investigators need to redesign this dangerous study immediately.”
In the letter the two groups detail their additional concerns of the quality of the data the trial will produce. The trial intends to observe the antiviral properties of ivermectin in patients that have been showing COVID-19 symptoms for up to 15 days. It is well known that the virus naturally clears the body in 5 to 7 days. Measuring antiviral properties of a treatment when the virus may have cleared the body naturally is unlikely to be useful for providing reliable evidence or clinical guidance.
“A trial like this is not necessary when there is a preponderance of the evidence that currently exists in several peer-reviewed meta-analysis that show that ivermectin is effective at preventing and treating COVID-19,” said Dr. Tess Lawrie, director of the Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy and organizer of the BIRD group. “The way the trial is designed, it is unlikely to produce any meaningful results. This can also be misleading to the public and medical professionals as it could send an incorrect message about ivermectin based on very poor data.”
A copy of the letter can be found here: NEED LINK
About the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance
The FLCCC Alliance was organized in March 2020 by a group of highly published, world renowned Critical Care physician/scholars – with the academic support of allied physicians from around the world – to research and develop lifesaving protocols for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 in all stages of illness. Their MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol, introduced in March 2020, has saved thousands of patients who were critically ill with COVID-19. Now, the FLCCC’s new I-Mask+ Prophylaxis and Early At-Home Outpatient Treatment Protocol with Ivermectin has been released – and is a potential solution to the global pandemic.
For more information: www.FLCCC.net
About the BIRD group
Convened by The Evidenced-Based Medical Consultancy (E-BMC) in Bath, United Kingdom, the BIRD meeting was assembled according to the World Health Organization Handbook of Guideline Development to review the latest science on the safety and efficacy of Ivermectin for the treatment and prevention of COVID-19. The expert panel included medical and scientific experts from 16 countries, including Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, France, Hungary, India, Ireland, Japan, Peru, Nigeria, South Africa, Philippines, United States, United Kingdom
"Communism gave us the virus, Capitalism gave us the vaccine"
So communists use German Built, French Designed & Trained Oz Student US funded Labs.
With English Typeface on all Doors / Lab gear / Beakers / Test Tubes.
US paid Chinese staff speak English to read the English Print outs for resident Aussie & US scientists.
That's some pretty twisted arse about Communism if the poor Chinese just do as the west says!
Vaccines were designed by Communist Block Scientists from Hungary.
1980 Communist comrade Katalin Kariko worked on RNA (Here's a Photo)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/redemption...
2004 with her colleague progressed the Communist RNA > mRNA.
Signed to Biontech founded by "Bicycle riding Hungarian Communists" Ozlem Tureci & Ugur Sahin
tbb ventured behind the Iron Curtain in 1987 & can assure crew it was Communist to 1989.
Yer fancy mRNA Covid Vax was well & truly half brewed when tbb was there!
Capitalists released the Virus thru their own Capitalist Lab in China.
Capitalists lazily bought 90% of Vax from the Hungarian Communists that brewed the Vax.
Further More...Hungarians design & run most nations Covid testing for US/UK/Oz.
Ask! Who here thinks US are clever enough to Dope their own Dopey athletes...durr!
Crew know that Communists Dope Athletes & they Vax us Dopes!
Way it's always gonna be!
But surely...Hungary aren't still Communist now...(Not supposed to be!)
Crew can be the Judge of that...
1st EU Nation to approve Sputnik V ( Russia )
1st EU Nation to approve Sinopharm ( China )
1st EU Nation to dump Pfizer > Their mRNA vax designer has 20 years of Honours & Town freedoms.
EU Watches as Hungary Kills Democracy
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/04/europe-hungary...
Just saying, that things are never quite what they seem...Pfizer is 100% Communist Vax for rich people!
Hungary...can't afford their VIP Communist Vax so they share Vax with comrades from Russia & China!
PS:
July 2020 The first Fully Covid Vaxed Aussies with (Zero side FX) never got much help from Capitalists (Oz Govt)
Raw Prawn best describes Oz Govt thank you for starting Oz Rollout 8 months ahead of his AZ Chunky Custard.
Nicolai Petrovsky is about to brew 1m doses/wk of same Vax in Iran (Not exactly Capitalists)
If this virus was anywhere near as dangerous as some would have you believe then people would not need to be forced by the military and the police to exist under house arrest. If it was actually as bad as hyped then people would be hiding in their houses voluntarily and essential workers would need to be forced to carry out their duties.
Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man, while Marxism is the opposite.
— Henri Jeanson, 1900-1970, French critic & columnis
Blowin wrote:If this virus was anywhere near as dangerous as some would have you believe then people would not need to be forced by the military and the police to exist under house arrest. If it was actually as bad as hyped then people would be hiding in their houses voluntarily and essential workers would need to be forced to carry out their duties.
So Blowin, does Covid only affect the old people? Is there actually a pandemic called Covid?
You keep saying that there's nothing to worry about if you are young and healthy . The posts/links that have been provided to you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Delta variant has and is affecting babies/kids and now in NSW 70% of new infections under 40 .
then try looking at the USA and the surge in infections and deaths......nearly 200000 infections today , and only a 800 deaths a day......is that now acceptable ?
Roker - tell that to the millions killed by Stalin , Mao , Pol Pot ,etc . Pure capitalism was practices by hunter gathers and they were FREE . Capitalism today is tainted by regulations applied by so called experts .
At least in a Democracy were are able to have free thought and speech . Being constantly eroded today by governments , the media and Big tech . Once a freedom is given up governments never give them back !
It takes a revolution to take back .
indo-dreaming wrote:"Communism gave us the virus, Capitalism gave us the vaccine"
So Indo , are we all good that our capitalist system lets Australia take Pfizer vaccine ( Because AZ is not good enough for Australians ) from Covax , which was destined for Africa.....Australia has now received more than 2 x doses from Covax in a month , than Africa .....because we paid and they don't?
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/australia-should-return-covax-vacci...
Capitalism today is tainted by a lack of regulation ignored by politicians.
There fixed it for you
bonza wrote:Capitalism today is tainted by a lack of regulation ignored by politicians.
There fixed it for you
Ha Capitalism today is controlled by the business lobby groups , and when capitalism wobbles like in a recession/pandemic , the Government has to intervene with the peoples tax $'s and or borrow on their behalf to prop up and give money back to the Capitalists......ban all lobby groups , and that could be the answer?
Brutus- 70 percent of “infections” in under 40’s proves my point. Bodies of young people would be piling up in the streets if what you believed was true.
I pay no attention to US stats. Australia is enough of a real world demonstration and the real world demonstration shows that the fear mongering is not justified.
A key point seen in other countries is when the system is overwhelmed, then the death rate climbs rapidly.
A brave political move would be to open up society as much as possible once it is established that the system would not be overwhelmed. It would result in more cases and some lives lost but would save lives elsewhere and give a lot of people some assistance financially.
I don’t underestimate the lethality of the virus, it could potentially overwhelm the system in Australia if we’re not careful.
It’s all speculation though, declaring the system is safe from being overwhelmed is a tough call no matter what info you’re privy to
Blowin wrote:Brutus- 70 percent of “infections” in under 40’s proves my point. Bodies of young people would be piling up in the streets if what you believed was true.
Blowin it's not all about the deaths , it's also about overloading our health system/workers with sick people and also the long covid which has long term affects stopping people from resuming a normal healthy life ....... I know you don't read many links ...how about whats going on in Sydney right now.......https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/17/covid-putting-syd...
Blowin, "I pay no attention to US stats. Australia is enough of a real world demonstration and the real world demonstration shows that the fear mongering is not justified.".. now I understand your position , which is based on your Australian experiences , and not what is going on Globally ?
pretty limited view, where examples in other countries show us the lessons of Covid so far......seems like you want to trial and error here in Australia........which to me is Ostrich syndrome , why?
Roker - tell that to the millions killed by Stalin , Mao , Pol Pot ,etc . -You got me there Hutchy. Commies and Fascits are better at genocide than capitalists. Though the latter do have some form - particularly in regard to the OP’s of colonised countries, But the quote referred specifically to exploitation - presumably in the capital/central committee vs. labour sense.
Capitalism today is tainted by regulations applied by so called experts .
That’s the whole point that (humorous, joke) quote was making Hutchy. Less regulation equals more exploitation. Are you arguing for sweatshops, Dickensian like factories, uber Uberisation ? Indentured servitude, reintroduction of the Masters and Servants Act?
At least in a Democracy were are able to have free thought and speech . Being constantly eroded today by governments , the media and Big tech .
Here you seem a mite contradictory Hutchy. Big Tech and certain media giants are leading the charge for your desired unregulated environment - at least where it suits them.
Why do you reckon that the US - the most capitalist of the liberal democracies - is so strong (well relatively) on anti-trust violations?
Perhaps because this type of ‘regulation’ helps promote the same democratic values which you apparently favour?
NSW Phase 1 are most exposed to Covid
NSW Frontline Covid infections
16th Jun -31st July ( Total 93 ) - Unvaxed 51 > One Dose 30 > Vaxed 12
Last 7 days Aug ( Total 28 ) - Unvaxed 9 > One Dose 14 > Vaxed 5
68% of Current infected NSW frontline are part/fully vaxed.
Oddly...it's hardly the most alarming fact
76% of NSW frontline were infected in the Community & not on the Frontline.
Pause!
Stats show that an Unvaxed Frontline Nurse is safer than a Fully Vaxed Nurse at Bunnings. (True!)
NSW Health will wanna keep #1 Vital Frontline news off the Telly...Shh!
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-survei...
NSW Aged Care Covid Infections ...(Do we dare to care?)
16 June - 31 July ( Total 26 ) Unvaxed 13 > One Dose 13
Last 7 days Aug ( Total 9 ) Unvaxed 2 > One Dose 7
Note States " Knowingly Mandate highly infectious incubating 1 dose frontline to spread more Covid.
This fact has been known since Jan & One Doserz are #1 Cause of Oz Lockdowns
What do our Media & Pollies have to say about any/all of Vaccinated Frontline #1 Superspreaders
Nothing! It is Taboo...everyone close yer eyes & stick yer head in the sand!
Now would be a good time to start being honest with the people...{ Misinformation Overlode! Warning! }
Brutus- NSW health system is not in any jeopardy of being overwhelmed by patients. The only reason the system is in jeopardy is because staff are furloughed due to positive tests. They are not necessarily sick or transmitting virus.
I don’t look at overseas stats because I’ve got no frame of reference with which to assess them. US stats are so compromised it’s ridiculous. The virus is so politicised there that it’s considered an indicator or political persuasion whether you want the vaccine or not…..ludicrous stuff. Then when you start factoring in items such as hospitals getting paid when a patient tests positive to Covid and it’s safe to assume the stats are cooked. US is so full of lies that sometimes it’s tempting to think the country only exists in a Hollywood basement ( Apologies to RHCP!). Not sure how you can place faith in anything that comes out of the states.
Anyway Brutus….you still haven’t addressed the discrepancy between your belief and reality. Where are the piles of dead youngsters from the past two months of wildfire death plague?
How come no one is talking about Long Vaccine?
Listen to this rubbish fear mongering from the Premier…
“ You have to assume, no matter where you are in the state, that every time you set foot out of your door, that you have the virus or anybody you’re in contact with has the virus.”
She needs to be arrested for creating panic in society. That’s some hardcore Chicken Little shit right there.
This guy must have had a crystal ball !
“In the future it will be about finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old, because as soon as he is over 60-65 years of age, man lives longer than he produces and costs society dearly. Then the weak and then the useless who do nothing for society because there will be more and more of them, and especially finally the stupid ones.
Euthanasia targeting these groups; euthanasia will have to be an essential instrument of our future societies, in all cases. Of course, we cannot execute people or set up camps. We will get rid of it by making them believe it is for their own good. Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive.
Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to come to a screeching halt rather than gradually deteriorating. We won’t be able to give intelligence tests to millions and millions of people, you can imagine!
We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the big, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.
We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will thus be done by themselves: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own. “
“The future of life” – Jacques Attali, 1981, interview with Michel Salomon.
633 cases in NSW. All you anti-lockdown folk must be feeling pretty fucking stupid today.
You reckon the virus is a way to reduce human population Hutchy?
Captain Congeniality has spoken.
We should all receive a booster shot before we enter a restaurant, or a gym, or a grocery store, or do anything. The government should mail us each a booster shot every day and we should start our days out with sweet life juice that will save the #children
— Very Concerned Parent (@ZeroCOVID4Ever) August 17, 2021
Remember, we are all in this together, except the unvaccinated, who should just die already.
— Very Concerned Parent (@ZeroCOVID4Ever) August 17, 2021
After almost two months of the lockdown strategy:
“633 cases in NSW. All you anti-lockdown folk must be feeling pretty fucking stupid today“
What do you say to someone like that?
Man, I honestly don’t think I’ve ever met someone who hates people as much as this bloke. It’s never about the opinion, the contrasting viewpoint is just the excuse to spew forth hate. It’s not even pushing an ideology so much as casting about for others to insult.
Damaged goods
blowin, I couldn't give a flying fuck if you believed the colour of orange juice was green. There's no harm in different opinions, except when they are dangerous to other people's health.
You don't get to vomit up ridiculous and dangerous opinions on here with immunity. When you talk absolute shit, people are allowed to call you out for it. That's how free speech works.
But hey, faced with exponential growth in new cases, you won't be changing your opinions because no amount of evidence would sway that tiny little mind of yours.
You may not give a fuck about old or sick people, but I do, so that's why I regularly call you am absolute caaaarrrrrnnnnnttttt whenever you push your anti-lockdown agenda while the virus is raging.
This could be the solution for nations with the problem of refrigeration for vaccines. Trials set for India later this year . https://www.csiro.au/en/news/news-releases/2021/csiro-study-into-new-war...
Freeride, Hutchy - If they are thinning the herd they are doing it wrong.
Bill Burr on Conan.
Scomo's Pole dance
Poland like Oz were =World leading Vax Hesitants prior to Covid Vax Rollout
Meaning, Vax safety slipped 10-20% in minds of vaxers. (Media / Pollies tell fairytales of Vax Slayers!)
21st July tbb : https://www.swellnet.com/comment/746652
April > May > June Vax ramped & Peaked [ 0.9 /100 day ] Covid Vax Cases peaked at [ 35,246/day ]
Poland had hit their Pre Covid 50% ( Vax Safety ) Ceiling...(With a non safe Vax > only way is down)
Vax Rollout plummeted [ 0.16/100 day ] >14th June bottomed out > Covid Cases Flatline [ 200-300/day ]
Like every other country...Miracle Covid Cure > Simply chuck yer Vax in the bin. ( Works every Time. )
Their Vax rate welded at 50% > Sub Zero or some shit, but they got less Covid than a NSW Chemist!
Bonus ...Sell their incubating highly infectious Covid shots to some other Losers...take the shit...Please!
16th July Poland to sell Ten's of Millions of Pfizer doses...
https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/07/16/poland-to-sell-tens-of-millions-o...
11th Aug Poland sells 1.5m to Spain + Portugal
https://notesfrompoland.com/2021/08/11/poland-sells-1-5-million-unused-c...
Spain + Portugal were also running down Rollouts & Vax > also running out of Covid Cases.
After buying Poland's Vax they're back in the game stoking their Vax powered Covid train...it's a life!
15th Aug Oz buys very same Vax that fuels Spain/Portugal's cases & ramped Poland's 35,246 cases/day
All things considered, that's a huge leap - which way doesn't really matter for Oz Vax purchases!
https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-1-million-doses-coronavirus-vacci...
We all know how these things end ... look away Gromz!
Expert : "Seemed like a popular decision at the time!"
An 'undisclosed deal' with the Poles. Can't see why the public shouldn't know how much we're forking out. I think we can assume that Duda didn't give 'em to us for cost. Maybe the Polish government's progressive laws on violence within marriage were chucked into the bargain too? Wonder if Hungary's having a garage sale anytime soon?
Exactly Roker.
It's well know that vaccine hesitancy is huge in Poland, and given that only have half their population is fully vaccinated, it certainly looks like they are getting rid of the doses before they expire.
Flog em to Australia because we can't get them in arms fast enough.
There's also fake doses floating around in Poland.
So when Scumo announced the "1 million doses arriving tonight" arrangement, surely our journos should have asked. 1. How many are arriving tonight 2. When are the rest due? 3. What are you doing to ensure these doses are not fake or close to expiry date? 4. How much did you pay for them? "and no we are not accepting the commercial in confidence excuse again". Fucking hacks dropped the ball again.
With cases raging in NSW and a massive vaccine shortage, Scumo would have been going into procurement negotiations on his knees. He wouldn't give a fuck how much extra was paid for the doses. These LNP dogs are happy to piss away our money to make themselves look good.
Blowin wrote:Brutus- NSW health system is not in any jeopardy of being overwhelmed by patients. The only reason the system is in jeopardy is because staff are furloughed due to positive tests. They are not necessarily sick or transmitting virus.
I don’t look at overseas stats because I’ve got no frame of reference with which to assess them. US stats are so compromised it’s ridiculous. The virus is so politicised there that it’s considered an indicator or political persuasion whether you want the vaccine or not…..ludicrous stuff. Then when you start factoring in items such as hospitals getting paid when a patient tests positive to Covid and it’s safe to assume the stats are cooked. US is so full of lies that sometimes it’s tempting to think the country only exists in a Hollywood basement ( Apologies to RHCP!). Not sure how you can place faith in anything that comes out of the states.
Anyway Brutus….you still haven’t addressed the discrepancy between your belief and reality. Where are the piles of dead youngsters from the past two months of wildfire death plague?
Blowin.....what you don't realize is that our Health system is not made for a pandemic , and that's why it's starting to get overloaded...but yes health/hospital workers are also being hit with Covid and if you follow the Global trends...all seem to be working double shifts to keep up. Elective surgery is being pushed back which also threatens other people with cancer/heart problems etc....
I do not use US based stats , I look everyday at Japan/France/Brazil/USA stats as I have business's and friends in each ...I talk with them weekly and am hoping I can leave Australia in October , so I search high and low on the internet for what's real and what's not,,,,as I will be travelling in a few mths to all the places I mentioned ,for the next 6+mths, until Australia drops it's quarantine and air fares come back to reasonable....
So when I read this in the USA and how many children are now catching Covid and dying.....well as you can see here we are just starting again here with delta...do you think there's any difference with Aussie kids to Americans?
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/children-hospitalised-with...
About time our PM took his holiday to Hawaii. Stay a bit longer this time. He can take the health minister with him. Split the cost of a room. I'll be happy to chip in.
Brutus
Elective surgery is being pushed back which also threatens other people with cancer/heart problems etc....
Not sure what is happening now but during our first lockdown all these procedures were stopped by the government and the specialists / surgeons were forced to stay home .
Another cost of lockdowns .
Why would you inject yourself with an unknown unproven poison for a “virus” with a 99.97% survival rate?
Ive had flu that have kept me bedridden for a week.
Big deal.
Give me covid
@ Twichy- I can agree with your sentiments.
However, in answer to your question:
Just to help your fellow man. And indirectly helping you and your family and friends too.
It wont hurt you.
And Twichy if there was a jab to give perfect pecs, flat stomach and a set of abs that 50% of the population had already had tell me you wouldn't be lined up.
"...as I will be travelling in a few mths to all the places I mentioned ,for the next 6+mths, until Australia drops it's quarantine and air fares come back to reasonable...."
8 months time no quarrantine... tell him he's dreaming...
Here's my uneducated, probably flawed personal plan to moving forward.
1. Get as vaccinated as humanly possible. If this vaccine is "poison" myself and half (or more) of the world's population can look at each other just before we all die and say "fuck it at least we had a go"
2. Listen to the medical advice because surely across countries, religions etc etc.. these highly trained professionals have not been quietly colluding against us.
3. Comply with lock downs and restrictions and encourage others to do the same because it has worked in some places. I am yet to see an example of community disobedience against lock downs resulting in a better outcome.
4. Alter my expectations of work into the future. I may have been an Events Coordinator (I wasn't) in the past but now, to contribute economically, I need to be a brickies labourer at a mass quarantine centre under construction or something else entirely.
There, now you can tell me how I am a puppet to these authoritarian masters and I am a simple sheeple. But at least I am trying to leave behind a somewhat inhabitable place for my kids.
That Gergyl guy on Twitter pulls together a graphic summary of the Sydney delta outbreak. Early days but data suggests a 2.5% fatality rate and heading for 1000 cases a day by the end of the month.
If the case fatality rate here ends up lower than 2.5% I'll be surprised. This is machine fitted assuming the lag and that the slopes are parallel to the new cases lines: pic.twitter.com/dFc0DHz8vM
— Glen (@Gergyl) August 18, 2021
Check this out .
Can scroll the bar to see timeline of countries and covid rates etc.
Notice how China over the last two years has one of lowest rates..
And Brutus, if you have really been researching and discussing this pandemic on a weekly basis with all your OS mates from the countries you list, you’d be right across this next ‘strain’ called....? Drum roll..?
I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?