Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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offshoreozzie Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 12:58pm

"Trust Science" they say...

Lot's of conspiracy theory Haterade left around here boys so let's drop the "flat earthers" in the mix to ridicule too right?!? They have ridiculous unprovable theories right? Ok...

SSame guys were also on this show which was peaked my interest:
https://www.sgtreport.com/2021/09/satan-is-good-the-vax-is-healthy-and-t...

Further shit fight... begin....

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Supafreak Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 9:02pm
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bluediamond Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 9:20pm

Sorry @supafreak. Posted this on the other thread you started. Meant to post it here.
Just wanna pop this here for people to see.
https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-entry.aspx
It's a government website with the statistics of adverse effects after having vaccines, in Australia. It also states that this year, 533 deaths may (possibly) be linked to the aforementioned adverse effects on individuals, (that's how i'm reading it but i could be wrong).
Not sure if it's been posted before but would be interested in how other crew interpret it.
The way the website is set up it makes it difficult to negotiate to find what you're looking for. I'll give step by step.
1. Click on link. On home page check the box that says 'i have read and understood.etc)
2. In the box 'Select Medicine' type Covid. A dropdown of 3 vaccines should come down. Tick them all. (i'm only assuming these are the 3 current vaccines being trialed.
3. Next in the date range, click 2021, and i just put March 1
4. You have to then click on the 2021 as the end date range to bring up the actual months and dates of the year. (sneaky government). Once you do, go through the years again and find 2021, click it, it will automatically put in September 15 or around that. Click that.
Then hit search.
This should come up....
Number of reports (cases): 58661
Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 57787
Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 533
Discuss.
(Note. These cases are all volunteered from physicians. This doesn't represent whatever percentage of the medical profession that chooses not to disclose this information.)
Also it's possible to check world stats too i think.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 10:39pm

Here they come , expect more of these new drugs and more anti ivermectin propaganda. Wank wank money in the bank . https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/a-daily-pill-to-treat-covid-could-be... https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-bla...

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offshoreozzie Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 4:04am
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"Trust Science" they say...
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Lot's of conspiracy theory Haterade left around here boys so let's drop the "flat earthers" in the mix to ridicule too right?!? They have ridiculous unprovable theories right? Ok...
Same guys were also on this show which was peaked my interest:
https://www.sgtreport.com/2021/09/satan-is-good-the-vax-is-healthy-and-t...
Further shit fight... begin....

Ooops. I meant this video:

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Supafreak Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 6:05am
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gromfull Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:47am

and here we go, let the court cases begin, very definitive answer , https://fb.watch/8kFucr9Joh/

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truebluebasher Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:30am

Qld Health Vax Hub phoned & advised Outpatient tbb to first get a GP approval before Vax .
Qld Health Emergency refused to release tbb without first booking a GP Heart Check.
GP booked in heaps of Heart Tests
Heart specialist said tbb must wait to have a Hospital Heart Examination
GP says you're not even half cleared until Qld Health tests your Heart.
With Vax delayed by all Med practitioners tbb offered up Vax to...
National Vax Emergency
Qld Frontline Vax Shortage
Offered to later participate in ongoing Qld Health Covid Vax Trials ( Awaiting Reply )

tbb / Mum have also been denied entry to Surf Clubs & Supermarkets
Just yesterday..tbb presented at info counter & Coles Store manager berated tbb for not having an app...
tbb started to mumble that disabilities didn't ...
Manager said if tbb don't comply...then you'll be refused (Essential Food Supplies) on next attempt
About 4 folk sign in a day for Supermarket or Servo > Most get cranky when they reach for Clip Board.
However! Department Stores use ipads on the Door & Big brother Voice-overs for Cyborg Upgrade.
Qld Govt has told tbb to dob them in...too hesitant, to do that...be like a one sided ACA Showdown.

Mum also gets bullied & told she'll be refused at the next nearest Coles)
Telstra sold mum countless dud phones & pulled outta most $50 in store lessons & keep blaming her!
All while cutting off her Home Line for 6 Weeks then refused tbb to mediate from a Home Phone.
We had to wait for tbb's brother to visit from Townsville to wrangle a Mobile hook up Test & reset.

tbb has tried more options than any in Oz to Vax & now they wanna mandate starvation upon me.
Care least what Govt mandate or fake argument to vax...look around >

During this time Vax Ramping has skyrocketed Delta cases
Since end of June ...vax has ramped > Qld has fought off 20 Delta outbreaks as Vic is also in the shit.
NSW Delta peaked for unvaxed a month ago but Hospitals are now overrun with mostly Vaxed patients.

Last night's news interviewed a distraught crying Nurse claiming Qld Health was hiding Vax deaths.
Today's News....guess what?
CHO says they hid vax delta infections since mid August adds Vaxerz are spreading all the Outbreaks.
Yep! Never told the community that current #1 Qld super spreaders of Covid are the vaccinated as NSW.
Tells it straight up today ...the vax is shit...Get Vaxed...(That's been the same message all year!)

Pre Vax Rollout Qld welcomed 22,000 unvaxed / day...rub covid over each other...Record Migration.
With each and every vax the Border closes tighter ...now just 2,000 NRL VIPs / day. [Keep the fuck out!]

tbb no longer needs to share that Vax is super spreading Covid...all leaders are screaming it!
Govt's are fueling Covid to spray it over Hesitants that have constantly been denied Vax.

Fed Health: "Covid app found no trace of Covid...Vax Covid Outbreak & now, no sign of Covid app.
Feds wanna open Oz wide with only Oz wide Covid Safe app in the bin...(Not one person says a word!)
Feds: "90% Vaxed superspreading Covid in every hidey hole is Coming...better get used to it!" WTF
WA Premier.."The idea to deliberately import the Virus is complete madness!"
Qld: "Vax is fucked we're all gonna die!"
All paint 90% Vaxed freedom day as the Texas Chainsaw Massacre...
If Qld shrugged off 20 bouts of 30-50% Vaxed Delta, why then is 90% Vaxed Delta so deadly?

Well apart from the obvious Fact that Record Vax Ramping has Record Vaxerz clogging all Hospitals.

Once borders open...low spreading unvaxed must Test more often via Govt Mandate.
Obviously skews Unvaxed as #1 Govt Health cases in #1 Covid Hot Spots.

Unvaxed pay $30 "Non Health certified Count" false [-] Tests that fail to show [+] cases or Hot Spots.
#1 Vax spreaderz don't figure in Cases > Exposure Sites > Hot Spots.(US/UK rid Vaxer tests the same)
In effect the Govt green Lights current #Oz 1 Vax spreaderz by stealth to sneeze over unaware unvaxed.
Mostly, cheaply vax around a city then give Vaxez freedom to dragnet & sneeze over Hesitants in CBD.
MSM pulls down Govt Reverse charts > [News] "Vaxerz are Spreading Covid over everyone, again!"

None question why Sydney City #1 Labor seat has the most Liberal run Vax Hubs, ever short on Vax?
Read today's Qld News...Vacating CHO has the guts to call out this ongoing Govt pandemic Vax fraud!
Would've been rude to flick pass the scam to the new guy!
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/covid-spreads-betwe...
East coast is currently locked down by Record Vax Ramping Covid from Qld > NSW > ACT > Vic.
How much more Vax & Covid could Oz possibly want...OMG..They want More! VAX! VAX! VAX!
We now increasingly isolate for longer and argue more each day over opening up...How good is Vax!
PM : "Oz are leading the Vax race to infect every hesitant in each state with Covid!"

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 11:55am

Finally some good news hopefully !

Scientists are saying that the "Mu" variant - also known as variant B.1.62 - which once sparked fears of igniting yet another wave of "breakthrough" infections has already been "eradicated" within the US. According to the most recent data on on the virus-tracking website Outbreak.info, Mu-related infections are accounting for 0% of new infections in the US.

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Supafreak Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 5:33pm

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truebluebasher Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:15am

Thanx for caring crew...
Qld Nurses / Doctors / Teachers / Police are forming breakaway unions.
https://npaq.redunion.com.au/righttochoose
https://amps.redunion.com.au/whsinfo?hsLang=en
https://tpaa.redunion.com.au/whsinfo?hsLang=en
https://inqld.com.au/news/2021/09/30/rebel-nurses-union-to-fund-fight-ag...

"Nurses are far more capable than politicians, bureaucrats and so -called public Health Officials of making informed medical decisions relating to their own bodies and how they treat patients."

Note: Unvaxed pre Rollout Nurses kept spread & death numbers down to half of Post vax Hospitals.
NSW 16 June-11th Sept (54% frontline Health / 74% frontline care [+] tests were vaxed)
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-sur...
We must come to our senses & restore Best Science & Good Health to respect all frontline.
Vaxerz must limit their own #1 spread before bullying proven lesser spreading unvaxed Frontline.

Doctors claim best health care & Patient confidence is being undermined & breached by fools...

Here's a current example of where VIP Experts wanna wish away a problem.
Gonna fire hose Vax over the Disabled in last weeks before opening day to excuse a vaxerz killing field.
Vax experts are so goddamn white ...tbb feels sorry for them, so will absolve all their white trash guilt.

How about we treat disabled as human beings...instead of VIP speed bumps. (Too weird?)

Tip! Last thing Disabled need is vax...here's what tbb & other ill hesitants need...
Rollout has set back disabled / Outpatient recovery by 2-3 years...(Relax) all we ask for is this...

1) Restore just 1 essential long delayed specialist check in good faith as a confidence boost. (Too much?)
2) Save yer frontline > Reinstate all unvaxed Nurses to assist in Checks then prep the healthy for vax.
3) Disabled trust unvaxed Nurses to give them a Vax & disabled need not share why! (All agree! )
4) Once you remove all vax Mandate from the scene...we'll vax faster than all wish! (Again! No heavies!)
Just keep the Bully Vax Experts far far away & you'll get yer 60% highly unstable Covid Time Bombs.

We ask fuckwit Experts to please not sack Oz finest Frontline...disabled will cherish & honour our fallen.

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Supafreak Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 4:53am

Sad stuff TBB , nurses need support not ridicule .

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truebluebasher wrote:

Thanx for caring crew...
Qld Nurses / Doctors / Teachers / Police are forming breakaway unions.
https://npaq.redunion.com.au/righttochoose
https://amps.redunion.com.au/whsinfo?hsLang=en
https://tpaa.redunion.com.au/whsinfo?hsLang=en
https://inqld.com.au/news/2021/09/30/rebel-nurses-union-to-fund-fight-ag...

"Nurses are far more capable than politicians, bureaucrats and so -called public Health Officials of making informed medical decisions relating to their own bodies and how they treat patients."

Note: Unvaxed pre Rollout Nurses kept spread & death numbers down to half of Post vax Hospitals.
NSW 16 June-11th Sept (54% frontline Health / 74% frontline care [+] tests were vaxed)
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-sur...
We must come to our senses & restore Best Science & Good Health to respect all frontline.
Vaxerz must limit their own #1 spread before bullying proven lesser spreading unvaxed Frontline.

Doctors claim best health care & Patient confidence is being undermined & breached by fools...

Here's a current example of where VIP Experts wanna wish away a problem.
Gonna fire hose Vax over the Disabled in last weeks before opening day to excuse a vaxerz killing field.
Vax experts are so goddamn white ...tbb feels sorry for them, so will absolve all their white trash guilt.

How about we treat disabled as human beings...instead of VIP speed bumps. (Too weird?)

Tip! Last thing Disabled need is vax...here's what tbb & other ill hesitants need...
Rollout has set back disabled / Outpatient recovery by 2-3 years...(Relax) all we ask for is this...

1) Restore just 1 essential long delayed specialist check in good faith as a confidence boost. (Too much?)
2) Save yer frontline > Reinstate all unvaxed Nurses to assist in Checks then prep the healthy for vax.
3) Disabled trust unvaxed Nurses to give them a Vax & disabled need not share why! (All agree! )
4) Once you remove all vax Mandate from the scene...we'll vax faster than all wish! (Again! No heavies!)
Just keep the Bully Vax Experts far far away & you'll get yer 60% highly unstable Covid Time Bombs.

We ask fuckwit Experts to please not sack Oz finest Frontline...disabled will cherish & honour our fallen.

Vax experts are so goddamn white ...tbb feels sorry for them, so will absolve all their white trash guilt.
What the fuck has colour got to do with it? White trash guilt? 95% of what tbb writes is abosolute jibba jabba…this bs is next level.

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truebluebasher wrote:

Thanx for caring crew...
Qld Nurses / Doctors / Teachers / Police are forming breakaway unions.
https://npaq.redunion.com.au/righttochoose
https://amps.redunion.com.au/whsinfo?hsLang=en
https://tpaa.redunion.com.au/whsinfo?hsLang=en
https://inqld.com.au/news/2021/09/30/rebel-nurses-union-to-fund-fight-ag...

"Nurses are far more capable than politicians, bureaucrats and so -called public Health Officials of making informed medical decisions relating to their own bodies and how they treat patients."

Note: Unvaxed pre Rollout Nurses kept spread & death numbers down to half of Post vax Hospitals.
NSW 16 June-11th Sept (54% frontline Health / 74% frontline care [+] tests were vaxed)
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-sur...
We must come to our senses & restore Best Science & Good Health to respect all frontline.
Vaxerz must limit their own #1 spread before bullying proven lesser spreading unvaxed Frontline.

Doctors claim best health care & Patient confidence is being undermined & breached by fools...

Here's a current example of where VIP Experts wanna wish away a problem.
Gonna fire hose Vax over the Disabled in last weeks before opening day to excuse a vaxerz killing field.
Vax experts are so goddamn white ...tbb feels sorry for them, so will absolve all their white trash guilt.

How about we treat disabled as human beings...instead of VIP speed bumps. (Too weird?)

Tip! Last thing Disabled need is vax...here's what tbb & other ill hesitants need...
Rollout has set back disabled / Outpatient recovery by 2-3 years...(Relax) all we ask for is this...

1) Restore just 1 essential long delayed specialist check in good faith as a confidence boost. (Too much?)
2) Save yer frontline > Reinstate all unvaxed Nurses to assist in Checks then prep the healthy for vax.
3) Disabled trust unvaxed Nurses to give them a Vax & disabled need not share why! (All agree! )
4) Once you remove all vax Mandate from the scene...we'll vax faster than all wish! (Again! No heavies!)
Just keep the Bully Vax Experts far far away & you'll get yer 60% highly unstable Covid Time Bombs.

We ask fuckwit Experts to please not sack Oz finest Frontline...disabled will cherish & honour our fallen.

Here are your promoted unions tbb.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/fake-unions-new-associations-rid...

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old-dog Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 10:27am

The flat Earth links would have been an appropriate way to finally end this silly wankfest of a thread. The anti vax nutters are getting desperate now it has become so obvious how wrong they got it. This link is just a magnet for the self entitled narcissists with mental health issues. I'm never going to look again and go back to thinking that people are thoughtful rational thinking beings who understand the difference between real science and social media science fictional crap.
Adios hombres.

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john_c Friday, 1 Oct 2021 at 4:20pm

To all the anti-vax nutters on here spreading your ill informed rubbish, please read this then take a good long look in the mirror! You are all a disgrace to the community.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/as-covid-normal-society-reopens-what-ris...

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offshoreozzie Saturday, 2 Oct 2021 at 8:28am

LOL. john_c giving us a long hard smack down with a lamestream media article. Ouch.

Did you want a personal apology?

Never going to happen...

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wingnut2443 Saturday, 2 Oct 2021 at 10:58am

Not sure if this has been shared, but, listening / watching this morning, the hairs on the back of my neck were standing up! Fuck, I got goosebumps several times.

Before you jump to a conspiracy theorist or anti vax rhetoric, consider the speakers:

Geert Vanden Bossche - Expert vaccine developer (Belgium)
Robert Malone MD - Inventor of mRNA vaccines (USA)

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truebluebasher Saturday, 2 Oct 2021 at 5:34pm

Thanx wingnut2443...Meeting of the Covid 19 Giants was a monumental wake up call.

Oz Unions

Getting back to local basics... the Lib Lawyer QIT Student union leader Jack M'cGuire.
2015 First spoke up on Qld Club lockdowns robbing Uni Students of financial support.
https://pubtic.com.au/venue-lock-outs-unlikely-as-new-government-struggl...
Also championed Lib blue ribbon pet hate of Compulsory Student Fees

2018 joined as Lawyer for TPA > now runs Oz wide Red Union franchise
Unofficial as they're only just forming & refuse to donate to political Parties...(Proves they're not official)
Libs are horrified by the young gun's Collective unionized approach...(Also leans more to Democrats)
He has backing of SEQ Lib MPs (Former AMA GP + Nurse) Rabid neck chewing Attack Dogs...
Growing Frontline members can out new crisis to weight'n'wedge Lib MSM/TV against Qld Govt.

Jack's Red Unions have gone Oz Wide > Teaching / Doctors / Nursing / Drivers / Police
Despite dwindling unvaxed populace...Red Union are increasing membership @ 120-200 / day

Not Anti Vax > Pro Safety Risk assessment for whole Covid Frontline (Simple Award level Duty of Care)
VaxType / Age / Efficacy / Incubation ...what /when is the risk increase for each + Vaxerz...equally?
Currently ....
Govts refuse to run updated Risk assessment on work sites because it will involve Vax risk.
Something they know shit about & even if they did, would never step up to inform workers of Vax risk.
It is said not one Business has complied with basic updated Work Place safety & penalties do apply.
Greatest covid risk are Invincible Vax Bullies that dish it out but refuse to adopt best safety standards.

Govts are mandating anti safety, regressive risk compliance drive at most dangerous time of our lives.
High Court will likely exempt Vax Bullies right to bypass Vax Safety assessments...(Out of Order!)

Instead of upskilling Vax knowledge...Hospitals are rewarding the dumbing down on Vax knowledge.
Govts say we gotta live with Covid but then burn all their Vax Books...while forever altering Vax stats.
Govts ramp record post Delta covid then refuse to protect us! 'We're coming for you...suck it up or Die!'
Never in all tbb's years has a Govt wished to hunt so many innocents...Bloody terrified of Vax Bullies!

Experts now claim we gotta double our Hospitals to combat their own Rolling out of Record Covid

Only unvaxed can reduce Covid Spread + participate in trials to restore vaxer'z immunity.

Qld largest Survey on 2,000 Nurses
1,300 never had the Jab
602 say they were coerced into being Vaxed.
Leaves 98/2,000 most expert vaxerz brave enough to Vax.

Govts mandate Work places to forever become less safe by mandating known highest risk spreaders.
Current NSW #1 [+] Cases/ Patients / Staff are all vaxed...
Qld /World Scientists agree that more Vax ramps more Covid = Top 25 Delta spreaders..
In fact the best scientists from near all countries warn Mass Vax is spreading more Covid to kids.

Leaders could not give a shit about our health...mandates are only to cover own Covid Ramp fuck ups.
World has insanely ramped 2x more Covid & Death since vaxing.
Qld Govt fought off 20 Delta outbreaks but fear 90% Vaxerz will be the death of us...tbb is listening!

Vid 1 / 28th April 2020 - Teachers Union Jack is mates with Sky/Bully Gleeso but speaks his own mind.
https://www.facebook.com/TPAQld/videos/qld-students-learn-online/2272276...

Vid 2 George Christensen (Yes! That George!) live Web Cast > Lawyer Tony Vax banter.
[21:00] Jack again is well versed and ahead of the Game on Work Place risks.

Again, tbb is no fan of Lib Politics but was drawn to Red Union Viral workplace commentary.
Progressive Vid is more informative in one hour than what all Oz MSM Expert panels can hide in a year.

Video presents the most progressive Work Place Post Vax safety. (Light years ahead of lazy Govts)
No secret as to why Jack has 100's -1,000s of Qld frontline Nurses quitting Labor Unions to sign up!
Of course Labor are upset by Fake Union that actually cares to address Vax...How dare they!
Tide is turning for a less hateful more smarter, kinder & healthier Oz...it's about time!

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wingnut2443 Sunday, 3 Oct 2021 at 1:44am

4min 20 sec mark ...

FMD

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Supafreak Sunday, 3 Oct 2021 at 10:02pm

Early treatment protocols. https://c19protocols.com/

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truebluebasher Monday, 4 Oct 2021 at 11:01pm

Delta Dawn
Media & Govt ramp fake fear factor of Unvaxed spreading deadly Covid...
NSW / Vic Govts Mandate 1 Vax Dose but the very next day...
Govt's consider 1 dose as "Ineffective Dose" or Unvax'ed...(the reason for instant flip)...
1000's of 1 dose Vaccinated are now Australia's #1 Hottest spreaderz.

Govts withhold Vax Health Warnings because they're the ones behind the ramping of Covid.

28th Aug - Sept 11- NSW Delta peaks & dies off...(Seriously!)
Unvaxed cases continuing plummeting by 39%.
(Oddly as Delta left Town...NSW Govt moves in to ramp the Delta tail...)
Vaccinated (1st dose to 3wks) infections ramping 86%
Vaccinated (1st dose +3wks) infections soaring 169%
Full Vaxed infections skyrocketing 269%
Vaccinated (Notably 1 dose to 3wks) are now the largest spreaders of NSW Covid...
28th Aug 1,157 > 4th Sept 1,843 > 11th Sept 2,151 (Got bumped to No Vax!) eg: over 3,000 now?
That's right! NSW premium Mandated 1 dose brew is now dumped on the shit heap as ineffective...

NSW Rollout of first Doses has halved... so cases are currently halving.
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx

14th Sept - 2nd Oct -Victoria Delta dies (Seriously!)
Unvaxed Hospital cases keep plummeting 25% ( 89% > 73.5%)
(On cue as Delta leaves town...Vic Govt ramps Vax to spread the Delta Tail...)
Partially Vaccinated Hospital admissions are soaring at 169% ( 8% > 21.5%) Approx 92 cases/day
Full Vaxed Hospital cases skyrocket 400% (1%-5%) Approx 22 cases/day

tbb can share that NSW very similar Hospitalizations reflected Vaxerz becoming the Largest daily cases
This is because of large unaccounted cases gloss over the fast decreasing unvaxed / increasing Vaxerz.
TV Land will never reveal that 115 vaxerz /day are being admitted to Vic Hospitals.
Add to that ...Vic is trending if to also dumping 1st Dose to 2 > 3 weeks onto unvaxed losers.
Nor will MSM stumble over the fact that Vaxerz would likely be #1 Vic Spreaderz all things being equal.
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/media-hub-coronavirus-disease-covid-19

Vic Rollout of 1st Doses are dropping..but still too high > not enough to lower incubation infection.

Evil Leaders / MSM / Experts are blatantly lying to you... and scream at unvaxed innocents.
Rollout Grim Reapers & Halos to avoid the truth that these Evil Bastards are smothering us with Covid.
Govts know of their Mass Vax record spreading...that's why they re-label & censor their Peak Vax Data.
Ask why Govts are hell bent on Mandating the fastest known means of spreading Covid during Crisis.
Govt's mandate infecting 10,000's of people to never recover & many are dying...never seen such evil.

(NSW) + (Vic ) Current Peak [+] Vax Data has been removed and or manipulated. (Yes! Latest reports!)
Feds previously delayed Age Care Data then dumped data to corrupt rollout 2 months later...
o/s arrival Vax data was also held back then mashed in to hide 25% VIP foreign mate's Covid suites.
Every angle has been covered to withhold then massage the data so it's unreadable as again now.

Soon enough...
DIY Vaxer Home tests > absent from Govt counts (vs) Mandated official Unvaxed Tests will boss Data
Next mandate #1 Vaccinated super spreaderz from Covid Capital to slosh Covid over the World.
Pay to notice that 40,000 Aussie Vaxerz have yet to make it home...better lock in a Gold Spreader card.

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offshoreozzie Tuesday, 5 Oct 2021 at 11:09pm
old-dog wrote:

The flat Earth links would have been an appropriate way to finally end this silly wankfest of a thread. The anti vax nutters are getting desperate now it has become so obvious how wrong they got it. This link is just a magnet for the self entitled narcissists with mental health issues. I'm never going to look again and go back to thinking that people are thoughtful rational thinking beings who understand the difference between real science and social media science fictional crap.
Adios hombres.

Jeez old-dog, a little Flat Earther mention and you go running away entirely?
Let's note that that is entirely your choice and a rather questionable one... no surprise though that the ignorant cant allow controversial thinking, philosophies and the questioning of some "science" to permeate their indoctrination.

I'm not desperate. I have found covid to be a profound time of learning for me. I have had energy and enthusiasm to learn more on not just science regarding medicine, but also economics, geopolitics, ethics, history and much more.

Hundreds of hours of open-minded review and research and yes well away from YouTube at the source of these tests also.

As I said originally, I have no official position or belief just now regarding. I'm still processing and learning about these alternative concepts or some most importantly SOME of teh theories that bind and support them if nothing else. We all should.

Some things did however stand out to me and if Flat Earth is so scary or ridiculous of a concept and devoid of any scraps of logic or science, we at least need more thought/research/review/testing on:

1) science has very much given us a measure or equation for the curvature of the earth. This number should be "accurate" and tried/true when even "amateurs" with lasers do some testing. The laser across large water bodies and the premise that with curvature accounted for should not be possible is certainly interesting if nothing else.

2) NASA appears to be little more than a Hollywood company pumping out fiction after fiction. Their deceit and lies regarding so much are just too big to put to the side. They are full of shit and a propaganda machine of deceit that has limitless budget and no-one to answer to.

Remember:
All sides are playing all sides, at all times!

The world is waking up.
It will ultimately be our demise and the reason for instability, economic ruin and unfortunately death for many years to come. This is just the beginning, but it will eventually improve again. A vaccine aint gonna change shit for the rest of the stuff the world is now burning over.

Dont shoot me, I am just the messenger.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 6 Oct 2021 at 11:50pm

The Pandemic of the Vaccinated
Premiers are concerned with Mass Vax Hospital Cases skyrocketing above unvaxed post Delta Peak.
NSW / Vic - Vaccinated now boss highest cases & hospitalisation.
Obviously vital to inform public of new Vaxerz Covid spreading faster than #1 Record Delta Covid.
18th Sept NSW Data bundled #1 spreading 1st dose > 3wks in with No Vax as Non Effective Dose
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx
2nd Oct Vic Data wiped #1 spreading "Partially Vaxed" from daily Hospital Data
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/media-hub-coronavirus-disease-covid-19
Both Govts not only know about Mass Vax superspread...they dangerously hide #1 threat to Oz Public.

So why is Govt vax - spreading more Covid after Delta Peak has declined in unvaxed
GVB : "Mass Vax is the ideal breeding ground for more infectious strains."
Mass Vax Rollout
25% Phase 1 Vaxer [w /alpha] spreads [a] x1 vs Unvaxed [w/a][w/a][w/a] x 3 herd weakens virus
50% Phase 2 [w/a/beta][w/a/b] spreads [b] x2 vs Unvaxed [w/a/b][w/a/b] x2 beta weakens virus
75% Phase 3 [w/a/b/delta] [w/a/b/d] [w/a/b/d] spreads [d] x3 vs Unvaxed [w/a/b/d] x1 delta (3x less).
Vaxed go on spreading VOC strains whereas declining Unvaxed mop up with slower Wuhan strain.
Nations now dump restrictions to direct Mass Vaxed to rub off on Unvaxed to promote herd immunity.

10-25% Unvaxed Herd are essential to mop up (breed out) the 75-90% VOC Vaxer'z hyped virus.
Notice how mostly only Vax maker Nations mandate Trials / Boosters / Breeding Vax / Kids Vax.
They're only doing it to please their masters & legitimize their horrific Vax Spikes as a party Vax trick.
Former NSW Leader : "Don't focus on the Disability & Pension savings on the budget bottom line."

Just how long does a Pandemic of the Vaxed play out...and what extra extortion of our Health Crisis...
We always turn to UK for future reference, tbb is Ok with that as UK have improved record keeping!
Mostly if they fluke a good run they wanna report on it...again...tbb thinks that's a good enough reason.

9th Aug (End of UK Delta) > 13th Sept
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-surveillance...

Unvaxed cases dropped every week across all ages (18-80) from 113,942 > 87,377 (23.3%)
Stats show that Unvaxed are by far and away the least infectious group in UK.
Hence the reason to chuck the ridiculous {Vaxer'z spreader Passes} in the bin!

Full vaxed cases are still rising in (30-50 & 70+) Full vaxed (Delayed & escalating Peak Delta period)
Full Vaxed cases dropped slightly in (18-30 & 50-70) (Total) 281,014 > 276,831 (1.48%)
Note : Vaxed Cases ' DIY Tests' are well underplayed as to Official count unvaxed Tests
Adding Unvaxed test every Cold as Covid (vs) Vaxed right off Covid as the Flu & sneeze about!
No! Not just saying that...almost a way of life...even Nurses confuse exact same self diagnoses.
Again! Only an idiot would group #1 Infectious Vaxerz by {Spreader Cards} Be like exposing Vax flaws!

Hospital Emergency Admission / ICU
Unvaxed 2,487 > 2,742 (10.25%) Note data lags Case's decline by 2-4 weeks
Vaxed 3,233 > 4,557 (41%) Again Mass Vax promotes Delta and presents more deadly.
tbb included above Rollout chart so Crew can check how Mass Rollout progresses dominant Strain

Yes! tbb knows that Media forever claim a less serious illness...but UK Health don't support that!
Believe who you like...but read the death notices first...

UK Deaths {RIP} (60 day Data extends from Freedom Day - cross referencing n/a)
Unvaxed 695 > 860 (23.74%)
Vaxed 1,906 > 2,684 (40.81%) (Important! 50-60 y/o Vaxerz (45.6%) Highest increasing Death rate
Crew may recall Expert's broken record or tbb getting arse kicked...(Warning! Vaxer'z not bullet proof!)
Current cases in this age are treading over last week's Unvaxed grave stones...Don't Care > ONE OF US!
Get ready for fear factor...
Current 80+ Deaths > Unvaxed 211 Vaxed 1,472...again informing of this sharp rise,
Aussies are led to believe Aged Care Vaccination is #1 Covid Safe measure....crew are smarter than that!

Anyhow! Think crew can see man from TV Land is a professional liar!

This gives Oz a good idea on Vaccinated Infection Rates & Vaccinated Hospital Crisis & Deaths
tbb is no fool & can see Vax saves lives & presents higher as Rollout declines in year Phases.

However! Vaxerz are clogging Hospitals faster & in larger number than any WR Delta beat Up.
Now how the Hell is this biggest ever Vaxer Hospital Crisis being kept off the front page...
Coz that's the most corrupted dangerous Health Policy of our era...many will die & be disabled...

Vaxerz are #1 spreaderz and this needs to be shared as a #1 Health Warning...
Few unvaxed give a fucking shit about Vax Passes... just be awake to the enemy within.
UK / NSW / Vic / MSM have played every dirty trick in massaging stats as far as 9 months & more!
So yes! Lets just say they're a little paranoid about unmasking their Mass Vax spreaderz.

Expect a run of Grim Reaper Promos to throw public off their overblown Mass Vax Hospital Crisis.
Crew are smart enough to know Vaxerz are # 1 Spreaderz / Cases / Patients / Deaths...
Can always blame the endangered Mini Me Mob for flag waving a post Delta WR Vaxer Hospital Crisis
Govt Health Data can be reclassified as misinformation...if ya like?

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Not sure if this has been shared, but, listening / watching this morning, the hairs on the back of my neck were standing up! Fuck, I got goosebumps several times.

Before you jump to a conspiracy theorist or anti vax rhetoric, consider the speakers:

Geert Vanden Bossche - Expert vaccine developer (Belgium)
Robert Malone MD - Inventor of mRNA vaccines (USA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=qP31cfD3YOY&feature=youtu.be

There's a high number of very highly regarded scientists including Dr Robert Malone who give a compelling argument regarding vaccines and the covid pandemic which really should be heard by everyone.The one really disappointing aspect of the differing of opinions by the average punter is the failure to even contemplate an alternative viewpoint and attacking the individual rather than the argument,open your mind, question everything

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offshoreozzie Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 8:51am

Wow, this thread and Politico in general has died - why? Pushed into the dark off the front page SuperSwellNet.com is the only reason? Hellooooooooooo?

This stuff gets more comical (or sad) by the day... and today's learning > "trust the science" of the FDA headed by a military nurse ROFL.... Nah, I'm good thanks!

The FDA's Chief Scientist, RADM Denise Hinton, is a total fraud. After 8 years in the Air Force, this nurse went to the FDA and somehow became a Rear Admiral. Hinton just signed the letter extending the Pfizer experimental authorization for its SARS-CoV mRNA jab. A letter written by Pfizer's lawyers. Her FDA biography has no details about her research work, since none exits for this NWO creation. A Rear Admiral in the Air Force?

https://www.fda.gov/about-fda/fda-organization/denise-hinton

"RADM Denise Hinton is FDA’s Chief Scientist. In this capacity, she is responsible for leading and coordinating FDA's cross-cutting scientific and public health efforts."

"Before coming to FDA, she was an officer in the U.S. Air Force. RADM Hinton earned her Bachelor of Science in Nursing from Florida State University and her Master of Science degree from Boston University."

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sam_2 Wednesday, 13 Oct 2021 at 4:49pm

RichieMac, spot on. They get aggressive if you challenge their views. It's not a personal attack, just a different point of view being elected for discussion. thats how a conversation is supposed to happen. Is it the long tail of identity politics lagging on in the brain, insecurity based on fear? A dent in pride? Toxic group think? Effects of dumbing down and sound bite media/social media - ing that lead to it? Lack of sleep and being too distracted then cranky? a whole lot of lazy CBF? All of the above? Either way its disturbing.
The other day catching up for a surf, I had a different opinion than a good mate, one from years ago who i recently reconnected with and surf with. When we got into it a bit he got cranky, attacking another mate who wasnt there, i told him i dont care if you are or not, sucks how it divides everyone somehow..then he decided to have a go at me down the path to the beach saying stay away from me, dont get too close and shit like that. FFS how disappointing is that?! Surely some part of him doesnt think its all that full on cos he wanted to catch up but then got narky when we started to say how we thought on things. Last time i checked it was ok to have a difference of opinion and still be mates but this issue seems to get everyone into two camps or maybe three. Two entrenched then the "well ive had it but dont believe in any mandates/segregation" camp.
Yeh thread has sorta died but still super relevant and important. Waiting for Dans ' how things will look next week"....
Teachers about to face mandate deadline. Payments connected to status. A few court cases in the pipeline. Lack of legal framework around mandating jabz for teachers causing department headaches. Legal liabilities ensue i reckon.
https://www.facebook.com/knowyourrightsgroup/videos/1013869969467023
Offshoreozzie..yes good link.

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truebluebasher Friday, 29 Oct 2021 at 9:32pm

Vic Vax Data Censorship Table (Salvage Yard) Exclusive to #1 Vax or Not
Cases shown in % (Concise Vic Table > records Vax Data change points)

Date..............None...1dose...2dose....Hospital None..1 dose..Full
31 July........ 82.8%..12.2%...4.9%.........................................................
10 Sept........................................................................89%....11%....0%
15-18...........................................................................87%....12%....1%
19-20...........................................................................85%....13%....2%
23..................................................................................77%....19%....4%
28-5 Oct.......78%....15%.......7%..........................76%....19%....5%
2 Oct.............................................................................74%....19%....7%... + ICU 4% Full Vax
6 Oct.............................................................................66%....27%....7%...
8 Oct.........................................................................65.3%...26.2%..8.5%
11Oct.................................................................................................................+ ICU 11% 1dose
14 Oct 67%....21%.... 12% (Vax Cases & Hospital Data Censorship)
Vic Govt pull plug on decreasing unvaxed > rapid rising Vax infection > Hospital Data.
NSW & Vic both pulled Data & re-classed 1st Dose cases 1 Week out from open day
NSW 1+ no = No effective Dose > Vic 1 + no = "Not Fully Vaccinated ( Lowers Vax > Ramps non vaxed)
Note! 1 dose is Mandated essential > (until infection)...then yer outcast as some nasty Hesitant thingy!
Vic noted 1/2 Vax cases overtook unvaxed in Cases / Hospital data...so copied Open day switcheroo!

Vic damage control _ _ % Not Fully Vaxed in ICU (re: Redirects High Vax infection to lowest ICU stats).
Wheel out the ICU Grim Reaper...UK/NSW all do it...very effective...(Go as far to claim Zero Hero ICU )
21Oct.......................................................................................................12%..+ ICU 6% Full Vax
22Oct.......................................................................................................14%..+ ICU 7% Full Vax < > 5% at times.
Note : Full Vax High Hospital cases > Why do 50% Full Vax need ICU ...[WR] poor Vax efficacy.
28th Data let slip that 80% of ICU hadn't had 1 dose...exposing this fact 5% Full Vax = "15% (1 dose )"
Oopsie! Now a Data Trail that was never ever mean't to be exposed at any cost! Someone must die!

Today tbb was checking [ Covid Live ] Hospital < > ICU Stats ....as they got Censored...Why?
https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-icu/vic
tbb shared how UK Health did the same to (Independent) OWID & Scottish Tabby Dashboard
PM also withheld & dumped Phase 1 Vax stats on ABC & all Data sets... (Govt aren't shy! It's gone!)

Salute [Covid Live] Patchworking Govt Fully Vaxed Hospital < > ICU dribble feed into a Table.
These guys do excellent real time Data sets...(Dan : "Too bloody clever for their own good!)
tbb was drafting similar & can share that the Full Vaxed Vic ICU stats rose from...
(20% 2/10 lowest > 33.6% 5/14 Avg > 50% 7/14 highest) Rising fast with Vax Cases > Hospital > ICU.

Dan saw Vic's new beaut ICU Data Table & steam came outta his ears...Kill! Kill! Kill!
#1 Reason it was pulled > (Who picked it?) C'mon...take a look at that most recent ICU stat/s...
If 2 doses are better than 1, then working back from ICU stats can estimate 'base' 1 dose Hospital rate!
eg: Full Dose ICU 5% = 15% Hospital Cases > 1 dose ICU 15% = 45% = 55% 1/2 Vaxed Hospital Cases

Dan is free to argue that 1 dose has better efficacy & wouldn't present as high in ICU as Full Vax?

Basically > Thursday's bullying of 80% ICU Hesitant's crossed the line & blew up in their face...
Crew can see, once a base line is figured then the ICU " Full Vax" Table can combine 1 dose uprising!
That's exactly the kinda fuel that Clive thrives on...expose yer weakest link & it's game over!

So Dan wakes up this morning...hooks up the TNT underneath the [Covid Live] [ ICU ] Table...Kaboom!
More Vaxed in Vic Hospitals + 50% of 1/ 2 Dose Vaxerz require ICU...(How very dare they!)

Salute [Covid Live]...got yer back! As for Vic Govt...
Stop Politicizing the Pandemic + Stop censoring Data + Stop bullying the Weakest minorities!
Longer you hide the truth, the more will get infected & more will die! ...Not good Health Policy!
https://covidlive.com.au/vic
https://covid-19-au.com/state/vic

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Nice one TBB. Yes it seems they are trying to bury the true stats harder now.

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Salute sam_2...you just scored Vic a Data Upgrade...c/o Joh's Police State censored Punkz
Pretty sure that only Vic's boomer punk cousins can share this level of Dictatorshit.

Thanks udo...perfect timing ...also including a bit on that one...now a thing!

Vic health site now censor 1 dose / No vax stats + shut down whole data site during opening week.
Covid Live ICU stats were gutted for a week either side of Opening day
This carried on for a week -10 days (Approx) until Covid Live got their Data Back...
Site titles are less obvious but still includes hard won scattered "Full Vax Hospital Data"

See! Vic Health feed scraps..so don't expect "Covid Live" to turn those scraps into a Pet Science Project
Vic be like...will these guys give us a break...how many times do we back up over this dead body...FFS!
Salute https://covidlive.com.au/vic

Continued Data [ Vic Vax Status ] aka : Status of Cases admitted to Hospital (Makes a return)
https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-vaccination-status/vic

Since mid Oct - Vic Daily Cases (Vax breakdown) of any description is now Forbidden
Yes! tbb knows that coming into Xmas Vic should be expanding Data sets not burying every last case.
If Vax is a winner then why not shout it out loud & share the Glory! Where is this Glittering Prize?
Next years school project...Anyone!...Who's gonna reach under Dan's bed to retrieve the data sets!

Data Continued from above (1 dose Vax % rates / 1dose Hospital % rates )
We can combine above data to wrangle a patchwork reliable read on Vic Hospital case status

10th Sept - 8th Oct (1 dose Vax > 4.95% weekly rate)
10th Sept (11 cases )- 8th Oct (26.2% cases) or 3.8% weekly hospital bed rise > (above - is solid data)
Projection is needed > As Vic Health long censored all 1st dose data! (Avg Case % is a fair estimate)
13 Nov ( 'Projected' 1 dose Cases ) *45.74% ('Approx') or *185 / 405 ( *Not official Vic Health Data)

(2nd dose Vax % rate / Hospital cases % rate)
21st Sept - 13th Nov (2nd Dose) > 3.3% weekly Vax rate (From above)
21st Sept Full Vax Hospital > 24 cases or 1% of Vic Covid Patients
13 Nov Full Vax Hospital > 105 /405 cases or 26% of Vic Covid Patients (3.57% weekly hospital rise)
26% re: (Covid Live)

("Approximated") 1+2 doses Vax/Hospital rate
13 Nov (*Estimated) *45.74% 1 dose + 26% Full dose = *71.74% of Vic Covid Patients are Vaxed.

Unvaxed (We can run a Double Check from above % rates)
10 Sept -8th Oct (Unvaxed pop' 5.175% Weekly Rollout)
10 Sept (89% cases)- 8 Oct (65.3% cases)= Unvaxed 5.925% / Weekly clearing of hospital beds.

Vic Health Hospital (Total / Current estimated Vax percentages by weekly avg data)
*Estimates 1 dose *45.74% + Full Vax 26% = *71.74% (vs) No Vax *34.83% (from above % to now)
Further consideration to fact that estimates are based on Avg / wk % not escalating % rates.
tbb thinks Vic data is unlikely to push past 80% Vax / 20% No vax rates (Happy to be proved wrong!)

Current Vic Vax 1 dose 92.7% / Full Vax 87.3% / No vax 7.3% (+ o/s & unsaid Exemptions)

As for now the Stats show the unvaxed clearing out for increasing majority of Vaxerz (No surprises)
Vic's very high rollout % dictates that Vaxerz would likely also fill up the Hospitals.

Vic ICU ( Formulated similar to 'Covid Live' by subtracting "Not Fully Vaxed Data" Reports)
13th Oct Full Vax ICU (Start) > 3 cases or 2% of Vic Covid Patients
9th Nov Full Vax ICU (Peak) > 12 cases or 13% of Vic Covid Patients (2.4% weekly rise)
Future ICU will be driven by Rollout timetabled with Mass Wane outbreaks...re: Xmas > (Easter!)

(See above) 29th Oct - Vic last ICU reports for "1 Dose / No vax". (Now also Censored/Daily Case Vax)

Vic deaths Vax Stats. (Possibly a one off > Not seen another?) Highly Censored!
29th Oct "Current Vic Outbreak Deaths" Nondescript start date.
Unvaxed 70% (vs) 30% > 1 dose 14% + Full Vaxed 16% (4th Nov 17%)
Possible this was a { Public Death Notices } Legal Requirement!

Vic Health Media releases (Ended / Then Delayed in Last week of Oct)
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/media-hub-coronavirus-disease-covid-19
Vic Old Site redirects past censored / Stalled data to > New Media releases
New site is more dumbed down than the last, as It only releases "Not Fully Vaxed" (Flip) 2nd dose.
https://www.health.vic.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases

Dan's Upper hand Censorship...
Vic / NSW Peak Vax censorship times with Vaxerz now hogging 50% plus Hospital resource.
It also hides the direct Vax % incfectious speed > Vax cases (tbb will exclusively detail.)
Note how all Unvaxed / 1 Dose / Full Vax infection rates mirror Vic Rollout more than Wild Delta.
1.(Unvaxed) 5.175% wk > 5.925% cases drop/week
2.(1dose ) 4.95% Vax/wk > 3.8% cases rise/week
3.(Full Vax) 3.3% Vax/wk > 3.57% cases rise/week
Sorry tbb can't see any wild virus ripping Vic apart...Just a perfectly Orchestrated Rollout of virus!

30th Jan 2020 (Pre Vax infections average 52.92 Cases/day) > 20 Feb 2021 Rollout
20 Feb 2021 (Rollout infections average 317.2 Cases/day) > 15 Nov 2021 Today.
Rollout of Vaccine has infected 500% x more Victorians than No Vaccine.

Notes
Govt are stonewalling all breach points to broadcast "Not Fully Vaccinated" from behind ICU bunkers.
This ICU battleground seems to be a last ditch Worldwide Default where Vax can hold strong!
ICU Line in the sand is Western Govt's last stand (Good vs Evil)

Focus Example : When Austria reaches 30% ICU > Unvaxed are locked Up...(No Joke!)
The rate will likely rise with Vaxerz rights to ICU as in 70% vaxerz expect 70% ICU. (A deserved right)

Austria / Singapore (see udo- above) / Oz > Bob Carr > All wanna bump Unvaxed from ICU / Medicare.
Never first returning their Rollout Cancelled Outpatient appointments to get vax ready!
Despite Covid Vax increasing infection rates so Hospitals are increasingly full of Vaxerz!
Also consider NSW treat 2/3 of Patients at Home, to avoid logging 1,000's onto Hospital Case Data.
So does Bob Carr wish to have us forgotten dogsbodies to swallow bleach from under the Kitchen Sink?

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@indo , I think you need to have a closer look , ivermectin treatment over 5- 7 days is approximately $2 USD , there is simply no big profit in it indo . If you actually read what I’ve posted over the months since December, take it a step further and have a closer look at who these Drs , researchers and scientists are and have a close look at their accomplishments and credentials. Do you think they are doing this for a laugh ? Corruption runs through all levels of government , it’s just the way it is the world over . Pig Pharma has alot of power simply because of the money it controls . Do you honestly believe our government has investigated ivermectin ? They couldn’t shut Professor Borody up quick enough ,why ? Because the agreement the world over by WHO and the others was that only a vaccine could save the world from this pandemic, so all money and effort was thrown at vaccines . HCQ was effective early treatment as long as it was used in the first few days along with other drugs and vitamins, the studies are there indo over 160 of them and still going in some countries. China used it early and they did very well . What killed HCQ was Trump promoting it and the Democrats and media waging war against it . They even ran trials but didn’t use the protocol and gave it to patients in late stage covid and the dose was 4-6 times above the recommended treatment and people died and so did HCQ . This is all documented indo have a look . If HCQ and ivermectin were allowed to be proved as effective treatment then under US law the current vaccines couldn’t be rolled out as a emergency response. Again indo look it up . Drugs like remdesivir had minimal trials and Fauci gave the green light for it to be used as treatment , it was approved as a emergency response. $3000+ USD per treatment and Australian government gave it the ok too but not once your on a respirator. Indo at the end of the day it’s about money , if you realy believe governments are trying their best for the people, well that’s your reality and I wish I shared your faith in this government. People say how good Australia has done and its true we have done well but being a islolated island it shouldn’t have been that hard . Australia is rated about 8th for how it’s handled covid , Taiwan is number 1 and didn’t have hotel quarantine or lockdowns like us but had strict self quarantine protocol with ankle brackets and fines up to $33,000 . The people did what was asked and the majority of Australians have done what is asked . Indo all these pro ivermectin Drs are also pro vaccination, they know it’s essential to the world recovery and so is treatment. Its just that cheap off patent drugs aren’t popular with Pig Pharma.

Just reckon this sums it up nicely.

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Well after some internet exploring it looks like vaccines for children are along way off , not enough research yet and all trials have been only on adults. Children’s immune systems are different and the leading vaccine organisations agree it’s not safe enough yet to trial on children, this actually puts my mind at ease but Bali is probably of the cards for next year , bummer ,was looking forward to having 60th there.

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Thats the problem ,3months is now considered a long way off

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The Prez : "Pandemic is Over!"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/19/biden-says-covid-pandemi...
US has had 4 lower Covid spells than Joe's current Retirement Plan.
Lowest Virus reproductive Rate = (2020) 0.86 > (2021) 0.72 > (2022) 0.52 (Joe's Pick) 0.87 (Worse!)
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases
Lowest Cases/1m = 2021 June 33/1m > 2022 April 81/1m > ( Joe's Pick ) 185/1m (Way way Worse!)
Lowest Deaths /1m = 2021 July 0.65/m > 2022 May 0.79/1m > ( Joe's Pick ) 1.27/1m (Doubly Worse!)
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases
Joe's Vax buddies ramp 6x more infectious Covid & doubled the Death Rate & now declare it's Over!
That has gotta be the least healthiest prescription of all time...just made the country sicker!

Turning Point Covid Report
Oz Health Minister is reading from the same script
"Today's announcement comes as Public Health Experts optimism that the Pandemic may be nearing it's end, with global deaths due to the Virus in Decline!"

Sadly though...Data points to a continued uptick of Death Ratio to the Virus on all accounts.
These findings show a clear rise in base level Covid cases & infectiousness in proportion to death.
Then how do these Experts continue to keep spreading Lies?

Well on the face of it...it does seem believable...but it doesn't take long to factcheck to expose their lies!

Note: World Testing is at lowest rate for over a year & often as low as beginning of Day 1 Testing itself.
This is keeping Cases down to absolute minimum despite continued rise of base Covid viral infections.
Not only that...Case < > fatality rate has been rising for over 6 months.(See Below!)
This is despite constant rewriting deaths downward from dying with Covid to from Covid.

Worldometer Lowest Daily Case 'points' keep rising...revealing base Covid is increasing more each day.
Meaning we live with more Covid everyday never ever Less Covid (No going Back with Vax!)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Base Counts actually rule a near perfect upward line...rather Spooky.
2020 April 75k > Sept 240k 2021 Feb 320k > June 360k > Oct 360k 2022 May 400k > Sept 420k

Increased Base Cases companion Base level rising Infection Rate
Cases / 1,000 ( Note each lowest Covid spell % also keeps climbing higher each wave...)
Meaning! The Virus becomes more infectious with each & every Mass Vax...(Eats Vax for Breakfast!)
2020 April 10/K Sept 32/K 2021 Feb 45/K > June 45/K > Oct 51/K > 2022 May 58/K Sept 61/K

Covid Reproduction / Test Rate slowed most towards start of Vax Rollout then lowered less with Vax & rising higher.
Again...the Vax (Boosters) are ramping Infectious Rate of the Virus.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases
2020 April .99% Sept 1.02% > 2021 Feb .85% > June .85% ( Falls ) 2022 May .77% (Rising) Sept .86%

Covid Case Fatality Rate (Base Points) Have been rising from April 2022)
Meaning Boosters have increased the Death Rate not Lowered it...(Expert's Lies can't hide that fact!)
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
2022 April 0.22/1m > Aug 0.22/1m > Sept 0.31/1m (This indicates a Virulence efficacy break thru!)
eg : Boosters 0.22% > 0.31% (All Hospital / death Data records Boosted 10-30% over represented!

Other Vax News...
Experts say approving a Bivalent Vax tested only on animals will further undermine declining Vax Trust.
UK Vax Hub Crews say Moderna Bivalent Needles bend when piercing Vials and are dangerous!
(Note) Each 'Bent' Draw Space Needle then disperses Vax Gunk in bloodstream before Muscle Paylode!
Possibly the most accident prone & hazardous Mass Vax delivery of our time!

Because of these inferior bendy needles the pain is more intense & felt for longer in the Arm.
The Vaccine Dipped & Coated Bent needle permeates the blood stream as it enters each person.
Experts claim Vax doesn't enter the Blood Stream...(Every needle pre dipped in Vax enters all tissue!)
The muscle is the last location to receive Vax after all other Tissue & blood stream.
Only a Pre Filled Syringe can deliver Vax directly to the Muscle independent of Tissue & Blood!
China / Cuba do use pre filled syringes for Covid Jabs...We slosh about in the Lucky Dip Fruit Punch!

The cost is great to replace all their bendy needles > Moderna are trialling less damaging techniques.

Data shows World base rates rising from a higher point. (Weekly reports may confuse rises!)
tbb will work off base cases that underlie the rises.
European base cases are rising considerably in (Russia > Germany > France > Italy)
Much like the World base rate rise is only just noticeable but they're starting from a higher base!
Translation : Watch this Space, as soon they will present in yer face! This being the Expert Wake up call.

These EU nations are running fairly solid 20% upticks from a low base (Poland > Austria > Belgium)

Warmer EU Nations trail with smaller base rises as Last year! ( Portugal / Spain )
Other nations may be running Weekly Reports but nevertheless seem safer than these listed Nations.

New UK Govt / Pageantry / New Bivalent Rollout (Weekly Reports + Low Tests re: Small Spike?)
Change of Leaders & suppressed Data is under constant review...expect a correction soon!
UK Data usually exposes any new Variants?
Only 2x UK Hot Spots 400-800 cases/day & they do scare with some wild Data
1. Ruddington (Tests down -8% > Cases up 1650% > 92 Hospitalization up 52% > 5 on vents)
2. Keswick (Tests up 49% > Cases up by 675% > 64 Hospitalization down -46% > 2 on vents )
Reckon it reflects 1-2 cross delayed Weekly Data flip more than a racing 50% Covid Variant? (Gulp!)

*NZ Boosted Hospitalizations have been rising 10% from 5th Sept (172) > 13th Sept (191)
Other groups are falling? Go figure! (Pretty much reflects OZ Booster Hang Up!)

Australia adopts Weekly Reporting + Lowest Testing over a year + Vax Review is well overdue

Australian States are also winding back Daily / Weekly data + Re allocating Data Piles to lower Vax #.
Oz Vax Review has gone from Weeks to Months to Seasons despite Directive > "Weeks / Not Months"

State Data is still reporting sporadic increases in Boosted Data
Tassie just did that 10,000 case dump on 100 cases/wk unvaxed...Wot to make of that! Shakes Head!
This was a higher up call as Tassie were most reliable with data...this was uncalled for!

NSW Peak Hospitalizations (4th Dose is rising over 1% Total Patients each week) Most Virulent Group
Rising Vaxed ICU % but not in patient numbers > (21 Aug > Rising Vaxed ICU Data was then Censored)
NSW Vaxed Deaths are only receding slowly & look less likely to revisit any former low point of 2022.

SA Boosted Hospital % was rising ( Censored > Weekly ) + Avg Deaths are still rising to a new Peak.
Frightening to think Oz may have to live with High & rising Vaxed Covid Deaths as the New Norm.
Today: Oz Health Minister reminded that Covid was still killing well too many Aussies & will return!
So! Yes! Endless Vaxed Deaths are a real thing going unreported by MSM.

30th Sept Deadline for Covid Payments are extended until end of 2022.
$1.4b (2022 Spring-Summer Pack) (Includes)
$840m Aged Care Frontline Assist (Includes)
$235m PPE + $100m RATs + $35m PCRs

Despite Wot The Prez says!
Data shows Experts clearly made the Pandemic worse...maybe why Joe has said enough is enough!

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truebluebasher Friday, 23 Sep 2022 at 10:30pm

The Prez " Pandemic is Over!"
From US Experts to EMA CEO : "I cannot obviously answer why The Prez came to that conclusion!"

"The Queen's Funeral causes Covid Outbreak, as New Variant Hits!" (That's the Correct Title!)
Queen of Denmark tests [+] returning from UK Royal Funeral.
https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/the-queens-funeral-causes-covid-ou...

New Variant BF.7 is catching on in UK for winter ( Faster infection than parent B. 5 Strain ).
Concern is mounting of this most infectious strain outbreak on the eve of peak Covid Xmas.

These figures are still for Omicron Parental strains (Mostly!)
Zoe UK (Symptoms) 'suspected' Covid [+] 2nd Sept 1.491m > 21st Sept 1.794m

Due to record low testing ...( Less than 10% of Cases are being recorded )
Cases 27th Aug 106,600 > 22nd Sept 144,813 (42% & rising faster)

UK Hospitals (Sept rises)
7th 487/day > 19th 781/day = 4,015 Total (17%/week) rising faster & reads higher this week!
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nation&areaN...
Midlands- Ruddington ( Above Report ) rising > 92 (52%)
South - Dorset 9th 35 > 14th 53 (51%)
S/W > 23rd 509 (39%)
N/E Yorkshire to 23rd up (30%)
Large increases UK wide extending to immediate North Sea neighbours ramping 10-25% outbreaks.

Europe BF.7 > Belgium 25% > Germany /France / Denmark 10%
Covid Daily Cases (rising)
Russia 12th July 3,002/day > 17th Sept 58,305/day
Germany 2nd Sept 29,345/day > 19th Sept 60,238/day
France 28th Aug 14,110/day > 20th Sept 51,816/day
Italy 19th Sept 8,297/day > 20th Sept 28,385/day
Austria 12th Sept 2,793/day > 21st Sept 8,510/day
Belgium 27th Aug 1,136/day > 21st Sept 2,906/day
Other Central Europe Countries are rising as one, similar to 2021 Deep Freeze Covid Bomb.
Joining with outbreaks in Poland > Lithuania > Czech > Hungary > Latvia > Finland
All could be covered under the one Cold Weather System as others sit outside in temperate zones.

US (BF.7) 1.7% > 3% in highest Vaxed N/E > N/W (Also mimics the 2021 US Cold front outbreaks!)
US Omicron Cases 2 x Weekly % increase also rising fastest in highly boosted N/W > N/E States.
Washington 47% NY 45% Mass 40% Maine 36% NJ 32% Vermont 29% ( Also Cold Coastal Fronts!)
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Recent N/W Pacific Port outbreaks in Hong Kong / Taiwan / Korea / Japan tides to other Northern Ports.
Highest Vaxed / Covid infected heavily populated EU/US northern Cold Front "Xmas cargo ports".
Whole world knows what they're getting for Xmas.

Australian States Mask Mandate is lifted.
There seems to be no Expert or MSM reports of BF.7 Strain apart from the one 'News' article.
Oz Expert high vax Mantra recital sounds a few docile strains & that's that...all love to believe that?
Only that o/s experts reckon that BF.7 is too fast for it's Omicron parents...thankfully it's not a race!

Covid awakening with shocking Oz record with 4 quarters of 40,000 Deaths.
Experts : "Think we told you a million & one times that our Vax saved record lives...more or less!"
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/covid-complications-push-austral...

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 28 Sep 2022 at 6:34pm

27th Sept ~ Months not Weeks Oz Vax Review.
Health Minister "Goes without saying I can't release the whole report due to Commercial in Confidence!"
"This is the Executive Summary!"
Reviewers...
Jane Halton works for Gates who funds ANU Prof Peter Collignon > "Dump Masks more Boosting"
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/01/public-transport-...

Gates > Hot hotelier Jane blew the original Vax orders. (Jane reviewed her Hotels & now her Vax Deals!)
https://mcusercontent.com/8a3d58d1cfb663c4dcefbc00d/files/24613b1d-c960-...

Review Code Words : Risk Appetite for Covid Stable
Meaning amount of Public Policy required to keep Covid @ R 1
( currently 3 Oz states over or under R 1 ) or reasonably low covid due to low testing
This stable base is also dependent on Euro Winter Wave...(eg: Germany spiking 100k /day)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

Pandemic Govt Cost $8b Vax + $45b Health Response

* No blame Bonus...all of Jane's Vax fails were in context of Global uncertainty & Vax Shortage. (Lucky!)
* Mass Vax phases Illegibility was Confusing
* Vax performance is Waning
* 4th Boosters are lagging (By World Standards!)
* Shocked to learn Govt had no 2023/24 Vax orders (note : Waiting on Jane's months not weeks review!)

Rollout Progression

* Tell ATAGI to FF heart issues on Kidz Novavax to soak up supplies then delay 2023 orders to 2024.
* This enables Jane to order more of her boss Gate's Moderna for 2023 Kidz > Adults

* Continue ongoing Management of Pandemic (Buy more Vax!)
* Encourage high Vax Rates
* Streamline Vax Side Effects Public Risk Analysis. (It's All Good!)
* Maintain Vax at Capacity
* Accept Higher levels of Vax Waste (Yes! This was recommended with no note of former 70% Waste!)
* Partner Industry & Sponsors > notably in Age Care.
* Keep Big Pharma in the Loop

Future Recommendations
Permanent Global Health Changes link! (note: Jane is a multi World Health rep!)
Fund TGA to wave thru more Big Pharma Vax.

We are not Covid Stable (R 1) > We can't predict next Variant Waves
Dedicate a Vax "Covid" Portfolio to Lock in Big Pharma as an ongoing scam.
Mass Panic Vax Delivery as Priority for next & following Variant Peaks...(More! More! More!)

Ok! tbb is supposed to Table Jane's Top 8

1. 2022/23/24 Boosters
2. Ramp up the Fear Factor
3. Fast Track Target Compliance (Less Age Group Vax delays)
4. Stay in the Big Pharma Loop
5. Constantly review Vax Supplies
6. Vax Stock Management (Govt Big Pharma Portfolio!)
7. Lock in 2 year Aged Care Deals
8. Recommend locking in 2 year Moderna Age Care deals. ( Jane & Pete's Pimp!)
Noting ALP signed 10 year Moderna Deal with Monash Uni Melbourne.

Current Oz infection Rate predicting case rises
(Low) NZ > NSW > Tas > Vic > ACT > (Level) WA / Qld > (Slightly Rising) NT / SA
Currently no sign of outbreak
(NZ / SA recently ended daily reporting to align with other Oz states!)
Noting % of Total Patients / deaths were trending higher each week for 3/4 doses above their Vax rates.
This is not a fad...the more one vaccinates the higher risk of Virulence than least vaxed...(see : Oz Data!)

Govt Minister / Jane's Media Gig is slightly more open than the Closed Shop executive review.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 1 Oct 2022 at 1:21am

30th Sept 2022 Nat Cab Covid Update.

CMO : "Isolation requirement was easing > removal of measures was reasonable!"

PM : "Right time for a Change...it's not sustainable to pay wages forever!" (Wow! Forever?)

Expert Chef Luke Mangan : "Just been in Europe & ya wouldn't even know there was a Pandemic!"
[Recipe factcheck] Europe currently has just stirred up 500,000 cases of Covid...(Sounds Yummy!)
https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid19-isolation-rules-australia-expl...

Those dead against Natcab removing Covid Isolation Policy...
(Gap between Govt Pandemic policy (vs) Health System is widening more each day)

AMA : "Those pushing to end Isolation are not Scientifically Literate & are putting the Public at Risk & they need to understand that. We are seeing a huge upswing in Covid Cases again. It's Coming into Global Holiday Peak Season. It's a period of significant risk & we're urging "Caution" because we need to Protect the Health System. This has the potential to release another wave & tip the Health System into Crisis again!"

Prof Brendan Crabb : "Natcab's Head in the Sand is gonna get us nowhere & make matters worse!"

Epidemiologist Prof Adrian Esterman : "The decision is Complete Madness!"

ACTU : "We are concerned that Workers without Paid Leave must work while infected!"

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/video/mandatory-isolation-scrapped/1du0mbf9g

[Factcheck] Oz Seasonal Infection Rate (Last Govt Reporting Date) Testing is dropping 10-20% weekly
27th Sept 2020( 28,703 Tests/day = 24 cases/day) 1 [+] for each 1,196 Tests (Zero Vax > Lockdowns)
27th Sept 2021( 171,201 Tests/day = 1,491 cases/day) 1 [+] for each 115 Tests (2 Doses > VIP Passes)
27th Sept 2022 ( 19,210 Tests/day = 5,502 cases/day) 1 [+] for each 3.5 Tests (3/4 Doses > No Masks)
(If Oz adopted 2021 Testing Rate it would unleash a Mass outbreak of 49,034 cases/day > No Iso!)
That brings this current Natcab Isolation decision out into the open!
Now we can understand the Professor's concerns.

Weekly Hospital patients were higher in WA / NT + Level in Vic (Backs up an uptick in Covid)
Oz Covid Death Rates are Rising once again.
Data shows Prof's are correct in saying there is an increase both here & huge rise abroad (See Next...)

(Not Covid Stable) + Rising Infection rate + Virulence is up in 3 regions = Maintain Isolation (Surely?)

[Govt Factcheck]
27th Sept Govt Vax Expert = Not Covid Stable (vs) 29th Sept Govt CMO Expert = Isolation is Easing
Guess it all depends on which Lying Govt Expert you back for which day of the week?
CMO is either ill advised or deliberately lying to sell poor Govt science to put public at risk!
Looks like more of the same Govt deception as Covid Crisis heats up...(PM Lights Match & walks away!)

State of Pandemic
World Xmas Spike ramps earlier & from a higher base each year! (Fact! Vax is accelerating Covid!)
So why does just about everyone still believe in Expert Fairytales?
World Covid is Rising 10% wk + Deaths numbers are also edging upward again.
Europe Covid is Rising 10% wk > now 500,000 cases (Germany rising 70% wk)
(Note Netherlands + NZ) Join rest of EU & Removed Vax Mandated Entry
Asia is holding steady but way too high 450,000 cases & increased infection rate...a real concern!
Looks like World Covid is ready to start ramping to light up Xmas.

Oz Govt Current Covid Policy Timeline
5th Sept > House of Rep's Inquiry > (Reinfections & Long Covid)
27th Sept > Vax Review "Not Covid Stable!" (re: Above report!)
30th Sept > ADF pull out of Aged Care.
30th Sept > Extended Covid Hospital Support ends with final $760m > End of 2022.
30th Sept > TGA approve Pfizer Vax 6 months > 5 years continued from last week's 5 >11 years

Australian Isolation Timeline
31st March 2020 > 2 wks
31st Dec 2021 > 7 days
9th Sept 2022 > 5 Days
14th Oct 2022 > (End) Covid Isolation Mandate
+ End Leave Payments (Frontline policy remains as is!)

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truebluebasher Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 11:12pm

Europe Covid Peak Review
By all accounts Cases are still rising but there is a sign of yet further Test resistance!
This low testing in turn results in unpredictable alarming higher ratio of Hospitalizations > ICU > Deaths.
Due to this anomaly some news reports were declaring the end of the world.

Thailand Medical News :
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-germany-facing-critical-c...
"Europeans should celebrate Xmas sooner.
Mild symptoms for a few days then deteriorate fast to severe stage > death is fast 8-48 hours onward.
Germany Critical Covid Crisis will accelerate Healthcare to collapse!
Mortuaries overflowing with also younger adults & kids...None of the fancy drugz work on new variants!"

This is backed up by Geert's Bleak Xmas Forecast....[ 5 past 12 ]
The science is pointing toward the Vaxed further enticing their pet mRNA virus to overwhelm them by Xmas!
Their own worst enemy...thus leaving a small 10-20% unvaxed to assist them & ward off anarchy.
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/

Please tbb...is there any less dire news ahead?
Well kinda! It's not easy to obtain & it does seem superficial but it can present as a calm before the storm.
It is possible a Euro Virus Peak ends very soon...albeit temporary!
tbb will lay this out in alternative formats from each nation that arrive at the same outcome.
This is now seat of yer pants stuff as all former Test Tradition has no Health measure of slightest worth.

(Germany) Peak 175k/day > (Drop?) Explained here by Incidence Rate
16th July 752.7( Last Peak ) > 5th Sept 215.2 (Lull) > 12th Oct 799.9 (Peak) 14th Oct 793.8 (2nd Drop in 2 days!)
Despite testing we see a more infectious strain but shorter life than Mid year outbreak.
However! Previous years show this Wave is just a curtain raiser for mid winter onslaught....
Germany Weekly Peak Stats... (Examples how conducting Low tests > falsely escalates virulence!)
Cases 29.2% > Hospitalizations 33.2% > ICU 56.52% > Deaths 55.5% ( Still rising )

(France) Peak 100k/day (Drop?) Explained here by Test % increases slowing to standard 10% weekly rise!
5-12th Sept +9% > 12-19th Sept +42.7% > > > 3-9th Oct +10% (France has hurriedly come full circle!)
Explaining that even though 'Testing has Doubled to 1.64m the rate has slowed back down to normal.
Again we see the Low Testing is exaggerating virulence...or (Promo Poster for end game Virus Breakthrus!)
Weekly Peak Cases 21.1% > Hospitalizations 33.2% > ICU 40% > Deaths 15% (Likely a delayed rise!)

(Italy) Peak 70k/day ( Drop? Is explained here by recent abrupt high end Test / Case / Hospital Peak Jolt!)
12th Oct Tests 244,746 [+] 47,763 (19.15) Hospitalization 6,484 ICU 118 Deaths 69
13th Oct Tests 238,253 [+] 45,705 (19.8) Hospitalization 6,358 ICU 126 Deaths 66
Again we see high Virulence rates + That Peak drop across the board is hard to top?
Weekly Peak Cases 18% Hospitalizations 30.47 > ICU 40% Deaths *60.5% (*Exaggerated low 43-69 base!)

(UK) Plateau! 10k/day ( Plateau? Is explained here by major Testing constraints!)
Govt PCR Tests peak 26th Sept > Flow Tests / RATS Peak 3rd Oct (There is no mood to Test further!)
Senior Home Pillar Tests are Up slightly from an ultra low base... (Falling Pound is the bigger Test!)
Note : Cases are rising in Victoria + NSW > Hurriedly following UK lowest Testing to wish Covid away!
Weekly Peak Cases 34.7% Hospitalizations 30.87% > *ICU 5% > Deaths 44% (*UK has specialist units)
Low testing is seemingly stretching out Hospitalizations for less but longer Crisis > into Xmas rush?
The absurdity of explaining how (OWID) 13.49 /100k UK cases = (NHS) 12.60 / 100k UK Hospital Patients.
Now that is some fucked up WR Virulence rate! (World Xmas appeal for UK Covid Tests!)
At this rate it's cheaper for UK to skip the tests altogether & house their Covid Patients in Hospitals!
tbb swears he saw similar in the Oz Gas Giants...gives rise to double check that!

Austria / Swiss / Belgium / Spain / Netherlands outbreaks share similar infection / Hospital rates.
It could be argued Octoberfest + Central EU Cold Snap sped things up a little!

Data looks like rising but exampled low testing is undermining the Peak...we should see them chip away at it!
Recapping! Current Euro Outbreak is considered a practice run for the Big One!

Next up is the Oz Xmas Special...

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truebluebasher Sunday, 16 Oct 2022 at 1:49am

Oz Xmas Wave predictions...( Given by 3 states Qld > Vic > SA )

Oz Health Minister "We're Not Covid Stable" (vs) Oz CMO : "We're Covid Stable"
Feel safer knowing our #1 & #2 Health Gurus are at odds!

10th Aug Qld CHO Gerrard : "(Dec Wave) slightly smaller than current record hospital wave!"

Vic Test Results...(Rare insight into Vic behaviour!)
Vic Symptomatic not Testing 25% > Compared to (US 21%)
Vic Testers Not Reporting RAT result 33%
Vic [+] Not isolating 25% > Compared to (US 22.5%)
If Isolation mandate was dropped 33% of Vic would "not isolate".
Vic Health : "Removing Isolation Mandate will result in 50% extra Hospitalizations & Deaths".
(Important!) Vic Report was said to be withheld from Nat Cabinet before removing Mandated Isolation!
No reason was Given...noting Vic CHO Sutton is brother in Law to Vax Reviewer Jane.(Possible Glitch!)

Aug / Sept Vic Modelling CHO : (Nov Wave) equal to Winter Wave variants > est: BA 2.75 + BA 4.6

[R] # 9th Sept 0.86 > 11 Oct 0.99 > End Oct 1.00 + ( We know Oz Covid infections are slowly rising )
9th Sept Oz Weekly reports base line the Case Stats...However bundled deaths trigger random spikes !
Mid Sept Transit Masks Mandate is rescinded Oz wide!

18th Sept NZ wave climbs & daily cases doubled + Hospitalizations are rising.
https://times-age.co.nz/another-covid-wave-hits/
75% BA. 5 > 15% BA 4.6 > 10% BA 2.75 (BQ.1.1 is the newly arrived wildcard)

Oz / NZ Covid Anomalies : Only Vaxed can Cruise & 100's of [+] Vaxed Pass' are free to disembark?
Pacific Majestic Princess LA > Hawaii 22 [+] >46 [+] >146 [+] > Tahiti 200 [+] > NZ is Hot > Sydney ????
Web site Cruise Moderators are blanking out [SOS] [+] Passenger updates > Please will you [STFU].
[+] Cruises *Carnival Splendour *Pacific Adventure ** Pac' Explorer ***Majestic Princess (Not Shown?)
20th Oct ~ *** Cruise enters Sydney, blindly looping leis over another Mass Oz Covid Outbreak! Cool!
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/travel/cruising-rules
Crew get the message ~ Govt's + News + Blogs are covering up Mass Cruise Outbreaks...Well durr!

Oz Fed Govt shows Covid rises...(Weekly Rises in Rats + NSW / WA / ACT )
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/case-numbers-and-statis...
8th Oct Cases rising daily in ACT / NSW / WA
8th Oct Hospitalizations rising in WA > SA > Vic + NSW uptick. (Vents have been nudging up!)
Aged Care is worrisome in NSW > SA > Vic > WA

Crew can see NSW is running hot & needed to bite the bullet to cool their Covid heat.(Perfect Timing!)
Whatever it takes to smother another Covid Wave. (Nothin' to see here!) Cough! Spluttering Cough!
News states NSW will not be held accountable for waves of Mass Vaxed Covid cruises or other shit!
Most cowardly unhealthy approach to Science in the History of Oz..."Don't care anymore, curl up'n'die!"

Here's how SA reads those escalating NSW Covid stats...
10 Oct SA Health : "Nationwide November Wave will be slightly under Winter Wave!"
Approx Infections 6-8,000/day > Hospitals 200/day until 20th Dec

13/14th Oct End of Isolation + Pandemic Leave + End of Reporting of Tests (NSW / Vic Only)
NZ + All other states will continue moping up Dan & Dom's already on the boil hot mess.

(End of Oct) > Vic Health : " Cumulative Infection Predictions Youth 90% > U65 75% > 65+ 50%

There we have it...Cases & Hospitalizations are rising thru Oz & NZ.
SA predict earliest Nov Wave followed by Vic & Qld Dec wave > Other states have said little of Xmas?
Notably NSW who go on pretending the Virus isn't breaking thru the virulent defence of Millions!

What's missing from the Covid Xmas Hamper....
Foreigners...many are already booking over 50% of arrivals by Boat and Flights.
Noting this increases unknown variants in record numbers placing immense pressure on the virus!
Most Vaxed Aussies are not equipped to fight off record numbers of exotic strains.
All of this is new this Xmas & never once spoken about.

re: Most immune evasive BQ1.1 just arrived onboard US cruise in NZ now headed for Sydney...
(100's of majority Yank passengers are infected & We could isolate this most infectious strain ever!)
Any here really think Dom will ward off a new deadly US Covid strain from coming ashore?
Sadly this Variant falls upon the shore of the Leader that cares least for Oz Health...so all must suffer!
NSW care least if any test or isolate for their newly gifted variant...couldn't give a RATS.

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truebluebasher Friday, 28 Oct 2022 at 11:15am

12th Oct WHO / ECDC "We are seeing indicators of a Euro Covid Wave!" OMG! Better late than never!
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/europe-likel...
14/15th Oct 2022 - tbb called the Euro Peak as WHO & Euro trash got outta bed...Yes! Factchecked!
Germany / France / Italy / UK > Have now halved Covid by above exampled key turnaround Peak indicators.

{ Peak Euro Covid }
Head of Hospital Foundation + German Federal Health Minister
* Likely report a new Hospital Crisis record next week.
* Calls for Frontline FFP2 Masks in all indoor settings.

All said Euro Nations then Peaked as demonstrated.

Was this recent wave smaller?
Health Minister believes the infections were 3-4x greater than the reported test numbers.
Which would calculate as highest wave to date...(Makes sense!) Why?

Explains why German Health Minister was about to call their worst ever Covid Hospital Crisis.
*Patients Doubling Nationwide
*Emergency & ICU are overwhelmed
*Staff Shortages
*On the brink of Collapse
Munich (Octoberfest) being hardest hit with worst ever Health crisis with 30-50% / 500 staff infected.

Euro Hospitalizations order Germany > France > UK > Italy

Euro Winter Covid Mandates
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/07/08/spain-italy-france-the-latest...

SWS are now the lead reporters of Covid Outbreaks. ( Genuine account of German Covid Crisis )
tbb did contact & thank them for daring to care in a sea of despair..
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/17/gokk-o17.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/19/germ-o19.html

Was this just a precursor for a larger winter wave?
24/25th Oct ~ (Despite halving Covid 10 days post peak cases again spike)

However! We don't see an open slather Euro Outbreak...it's more specific...but why?
World Tourists are transiting from Octoberfest to Alps for Ski Season
Bavarian Beer Tent crawl to the Alps > Austria > France > Italy > Swiss Ski Resorts
Adding that Germany / France / Italy / Austria are now challenging the Swiss for Post Covid Ski Tourism.
We are seeing a natural trail of Covid infection spreading from Peak Airports to Cozy Ski resorts.
It's all too obvious that only these Ski Nations should time their rebound spike at start of ski season.
Infected nations calling for more tourists above seasonal trends > reverberating their Covid shockwave.

Also a few positive Snow Birds flying south to warm up Hot Spots in Croatia / Greece / Cyprus.
Latin nations are notorious lowest Testing Nations > Outbreaks were delayed last year also.
Of interest being the North Lands not yet experiencing any Covid Cold Snap?

Noting tbb did finish last Euro report by hinting recent Wave was a test run for the big one!
We called the last recent Peak but now this current Big Wave prediction is shaping up...lets hope not!
At this early stage it still seems typical for the time of season.

Next Up tbb will report on the New Wave of [+] Cruising in the Southern Oceans...
Yes! There is a Covid Crisis cruising closer to home & threatening our shore like never before!

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truebluebasher Saturday, 29 Oct 2022 at 5:20pm

Jan-Nov 2022 Oz Covid Cruise Itinerary (swellnet exclusive)

Govt mandated #1 max Covid spreading Cyborgs...currently over 1,000 [+] cruisers invading Oz shore.
Tested Day trippers on Trains & Planes are not as infectious as they whizz by on/off pre incubation.
Note some nations like Germany mandate Masks on interstate long haul journeys but not short rides.
Cruise pass' incubate the virus over time 1-3d 5[+] > 7d 50[+] > 10d 100[+] > 13d 200-400 [+]
Age Care settings + Small Island breakouts number & last just as long...
Apart from Cruises refuelling a fresh batch of less immune passengers each outbreak.
Even comparison to new hospital patients on wards is thwart by poor Ship Cabin air.

Cruise also expands Size (April) 150 Interstate > (May) 2500 National > (Sept) 4,000 International.
Calendar reads (10% cases) 15/150 pass > 250/2,500 pass > 400/4,000 pass > More Cruises / More [+]
So we naturally read an increase in [+] on larger longer cruises...(Media confuses as more infectious!)
So! Don't freak out as you read Itinerary is spreading more Covid each Cruise...Nature of Rebound Plan!

*First State / City - Cruise / Liner berth in Post Covid Season

Boutique Cruises up to 150 pass
4 Jan / *Hobart [+] 2 Coral Explorer
17-23 April / NT- *Broome [+] 12 Coral Explorer
3 May / Broome - *NT [+] 20 Coral Geographer
20 May / Broome [+] 167 (Total pre Undisclosed policy) re: Coral Expeditions /APT /Ponant /True North
During the 1st Month (WA-NT) over 10 (All) cruises were said to be infected.
https://www.afr.com/life-and-luxury/travel/infected-passengers-on-luxury...

National Cruise Liners (Restart) up to 2,500 pass
31 May Sydney - *Bne [+] 20 Pacific Explorer
10 July *Port Douglas - Bne [+] 24 Coral Princess +
15 July Bne-*Sydney [+] 154 Coral Princess
18 July Sydney [+] 100 Pacific Explorer
10 Aug *Newcastle Coral Princess (Crew members remain to perpetuate outbreak cycle!)
12 Aug Sydney-*NZ [+] 100 Pacific Explorer
15 Sept *Melbourne Coral Princess - Note this ship is constantly [+] see below ports.

Arrival of the Cross Ocean International Liners requires Govt backing Down for Pro Cruise Bullies.
Oct NSW Tier Level was Downgraded T3 > T2 / T2 > T1 (Tier 2 [+] 100 Cruise > Now Lowest Tier 1)
Green > Yellow > Amber > Red (Scary Colour scheme is gone > Only a nice Blue for all levels)
When Booking : Tier 1 = standard 100 VIP infections onboard > Tier 2 = 100's > Tier 3 = Get outta town

Note the ships are now picking up local online tags
8-23-25 Oct Sydney-*Hobart (Liner) [+] 100 Pacific Explorer & (Scorer)
8 Oct [+] 100 Coral (Immoral) Princess
8-20 Oct LA-Tahiti [+] 116 > NZ [+] 200 Majestic (Apoplectic) Princess > Sydney (n/a)
https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2883582-hello-from-the-majestic-pr...
8-22 Oct Sydney [+] 100 Celebrity (Whole of City) Eclipse
9-27 Oct Sydney [+] 100 Carnival Splendor (Splutter)
10-25 Oct Sydney [+] 100 Pacific AdVENTure
25 Oct NZ [+] 131 Ovation of The Seas (Disease)
28 Oct Freemantle [+] 290 Coral Princess (P&O Prez : [-] 90% of 2,900 = [+] 290)
28 Oct Qld Covid Emergency ends on 1 Nov...same day as ship of 400 [+] pulls into port! (Nice timing!)
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/covid-over-qld-take...
1 Nov Brisbane [+] 400 Quantum of The Seas (Disease) ... Unleashes blogs of Useless Vax Shame
Now zero shred of Govt Cred...punters just see a contrived Covid health sham...(A sell out!)
No longer mention Expert Covid Health Science as a thing...just a piece of shit...All are happy about it!

Total Covid [+] Passengers number over 2,000 / year to Nov > 25 infected Cruise vessels.
Yes! tbb knows News won't bother to print half nor do they half care anymore...just forget the bludgers!
Cowardly pathetic Oz news sold out...Covid is banned... Sorry! Not allowed to say anything anymore!
Experts chucked Science & Health advice in the bin...let's not learn or try... Just keep selling useless shit!

All our recent half decent Cruise news now comes via a Miami US lawyer Jim Walker...thanx! Ripper Job mate!
Auntie please take note...this Yank is doin' your job all on his own & does a better job of it. (It's Bloody Embarrassing!)
https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2022/10/articles/disease/covid-cruise-ship...
https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2022/10/articles/disease/growing-covid-19-...

Telling Points
Cruise President : Now only we are actively managing Test & Trace.
Careless inferior Onshore health practices led to Covid outbreak infecting our crew & innocent ship.
Undisclosed Small Number = 200-300 [+] Somethin' like that! > Undisclosed onshore Iso (Where/Wot?)
Other nations let us do what we like. (Like : Picking up Covid & brewing heaps more to smear over your town!)

Health
At risk senior Chemist : Close contact Pax refuse to wear free masks in my chemist during an outbreak?
AMA : " Would not Cruise if ya gave me free tickets!"
Cruises harbour many strains of many virus all brewed together for longer.
Crew + Asymptomatic port hoppers recycle the Virus to next Group & new port & so on...
Large [+] Outbreak Cruises should bypass small vulnerable at risk Ports
All close contacts + those disembarking must Test [-] + Wear Masks in High risk / During Outbreaks.
Address stuffy cabin Air!

NSW Govt : Reduce Warnings on every level + Allow for larger Covid threshold to suit Cruise Bosses.
Delay Listing of Covid Ships & Disguise real numbers + Non Disclosed Policy.
Essentially mandate maximum lethal Covid spreading by Govt sponsored repeat offenders! All say Aye!
Refuse to inform public of Mandated Govt sponsored Mass Germ Warfare Experiments...Hoorah!