Vaccinate or not
Anyone know which M.C is the Unions go to guys it's not H.A
Blowin wrote:If risking infection amongst the community is what this is all about, when are the riot squad going to pick up Scott “No federal quarantine facilities “ Morrison and Dan “ Diversity pick and mate’s rates prioritised over proper quarantine “ Andrews?
It’s not about public health it’s about conditioning Australians to be arbitrarily repressed.
The fact that Bunnings has been open and packed throughout 90 percent of lockdown proves this true.
Haha! Maximum grievance! They're coming for your bathplug!
When you only know one way to look at things, it's all you see.
Snuffy Smith wrote:Anyone know which M.C is the Unions go to guys it's not H.A
Not sure about down south Snuffy, but it used to be the Rebels in QLD.
Everyday you prove how much of a low quality individual you are. You are a piece of filth.
from roadkill
so someone with a different opinion is a piece of filth, get a grip, keep getting up them blowin , a true democracy celebrates diversity of opinion, not whats going on this forum thats for sure.
he'll get here supafreak...
maybe in a day or two
when his lies and misinformation aren't so fresh...
fitzroy-21 wrote:Snuffy Smith wrote:Anyone know which M.C is the Unions go to guys it's not H.A
Not sure about down south Snuffy, but it used to be the Rebels in QLD.
I haven't watched any oz tv...
but hard to believe other media sources haven't ridden in on avi's footage of the goons with shovels, pretty damning stuff...
and pretty exciting tv... especially with cops in the middle, all confused, not knowing who to shoot...
little avi might need to watch his back
sypkan wrote:little avi might need to watch his back
Why's that, I imagine he's pretty popular with the violent rabble at such protests. He didn't seem to get beat up like the other guy - I guess the 'news' he produces aligns with the views of the protestors.
The international tournament for military athletes was held in Wuhan, where sick patients would start overwhelming hospitals and dropping dead in the streets not even three months later after Beijing notified the WHO on New Years about the outbreak. After the games, Wei claims, some of the 9,000 athletes who attended were sickened with a mysterious illness, including French, American and German athletes.
"I thought the Chinese government would take this opportunity to spread the virus during the Military Games, as many foreigners would show up there," Wei said in a new Sky News documentary entitled 'What Really Happened in Wuhan?'.
"[I knew] of the possibility of the Chinese government using some strange weapons, including biological weapons, because I knew they were doing experiments of that sort," he said.
The World Military Games, like the Olympic Games for military athletes, were held in Wuhan from October 19-27, 2019.
Just read this . Posted it on Interesting thread as it is very interesting new information . Applicable here to .
Stage 3 trial results .
Remdesivir reduces the risk of hospitalization and medical visits due to COVID-19 in high-risk patients, new data suggest.
California-based Gilead Sciences Inc, the maker of the antiviral drug, published the results of its Phase III clinical trial on Wednesday.
Researchers found patients treated with remdesivir were 87 percent less likely to be hospitalized and 81 less likely to require a medical visit than those who were given a placebo.
@hutchy there has been a lot of reports on remdesivir. India dropped it and introduced ivermectin. Even the WHO doesn’t recommend it . https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2781959.
Brutus - I hope you are keeping up with the daily news !
New documents show that just 18 months before the first Covid-19 cases appeared, researchers had submitted plans to release skin-penetrating nanoparticles containing “novel chimeric spike proteins” of bat coronaviruses into cave bats in Yunnan, China.
They also planned to create chimeric viruses, genetically enhanced to infect humans more easily, and requested $14million from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) to fund the work.
The bid was submitted by zoologist Peter Daszak of US-based EcoHealth Alliance, who was hoping to use genetic engineering to cobble "human-specific cleavage sites" onto bat Covid 'which would make it easier for the virus to enter human cells' - a method which would coincidentally answer a longstanding question among the scientific community as to how SARS-CoV-2 evolved to become so infectious to humans.
Daszak's proposal also included plans to commingle high-risk natural coronaviruses strains with more infectious, yet less deadly versions. His 'bat team' of researchers included Dr. Shi Zhengli from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as well as US researchers from the University of North Carolina and the US Geological Survey National Wildlife Health Center.
Darpa refused the contract - saying "It is clear that the proposed project led by Peter Daszak could have put local communities at risk," while warning that Daszak hadn't fully considered the dangers involved in enhancing the virus via gain-of-function research, or by releasing a vaccine into the air.
Grant documents show that the team also had some concerns about the vaccine programme and said they would “conduct educational outreach … so that there is a public understanding of what we are doing and why we are doing it, particularly because of the practice of bat-consumption in the region”.
Angus Dalgleish, Professor of Oncology at St Georges, University of London, who struggled to get work published showing that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had been carrying out “gain of function” work for years before the pandemic, said the research may have gone ahead even without the funding.
“This is clearly a gain of function, engineering the cleavage site and polishing the new viruses to enhance human cell infectibility in more than one cell line,” he said. -Telegraph
Supafreak wrote:bonza wrote:https://www.counterhate.com/disinformationdozen
“ Just twelve anti-vaxxers are responsible for almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content circulating on social media platforms.”
Ive only ever heard of Kennedy jr , never heard of the rest , interesting link bonza
What about Dr Mike Yeadon ex Vice President of Pfizer
Dr Robert Malone
Dr peter McCullough
Dr Reiner Fullmich
Dr Micheal Savage
Dr Richard Fleming
Dr Judy Mikovits
All experts in their field of molecular science, cardiology,gain of function, gene therapy etc.
I’m not anti vaccine but like open discussion from both sides and this is a closed shop by NIH CDC FDA led by faucci and spoon fed by government and media. Yes covid is real yes the vaccines work and yes like covid they can be harmful as well
@RichieMac , yes definitely agree, debate is dead and a full inquiry into these organisations is sadly needed . FDA used to be fully funded by the American taxpayer but that changed about 40 years ago I think . A lot of FDA staff eventually end up leaving and working for Big Pharma. I’ve said before that in Australia a debate with Professor’s Skerrit , Kelly , Clancy and Borody is needed. Can’t see it ever happening . Borody is putting forward his Triple therapy to the TGA with results from 500 Australian patients he’s treated for covid . None have died.
Don't really think these decisions should be made based on a debate supa. It should be based around the scientific evidence.
@JQ yes I agree , in a debate the evidence can be displayed , either way scientists always disagree. Here’s a good analysis of what’s happening with Pfizer in Israel, even with these results some scientists will still argue, its what they do . https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-...
Melbourne sure has changed since i was there a mere few months ago.
https://www.facebook.com/1048395910/videos/1269851160111186/
FDA is a bit of a mess . https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-19/janet-woodcock-ruled-...
Supafreak wrote:@JQ yes I agree , in a debate the evidence can be displayed , either way scientists always disagree. Here’s a good analysis of what’s happening with Pfizer in Israel, even with these results some scientists will still argue, its what they do . https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-...
That's a good link Supa, breaking it down for those who may not understand statistics very well. I'd suggest mandatory reading for TBB - he's misrepresented these statistics multiple times.
@JQ , the guy that did that analysis is no dummy either. https://www.dbei.med.upenn.edu/bio/jeffrey-s-morris-phd
Blowin wrote:Vic Local :
“You’re a dopey fucken idiot right wing dog cunt stupid fucking nut job facing idiot dopey clown dog who needs to be
hit with a truncheon and sent begging and kicked out of society which is what a dopey fucken dog cunt idiot deserves”Also Vic Local:
“Your rants are very angry and completely lacking in humour or self awareness. “
Check~maaate.
Blowin wrote:Vic Local :
“You’re a dopey fucken idiot right wing dog cunt stupid fucking nut job facing idiot dopey clown dog who needs to be
hit with a truncheon and sent begging and kicked out of society which is what a dopey fucken dog cunt idiot deserves”Also Vic Local:
“Your rants are very angry and completely lacking in humour or self awareness. “
Check~maaate.
NSW so well prepared for the pandemic, not! Only had 18 months to prepare though...
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/24/overseas-trained-...
@san Guine , I see in the US they are doing a recruitment drive for overseas medical staff to replace those refusing vaccine and those that have walked away.
Supafreak wrote:@san Guine , I see in the US they are doing a recruitment drive for overseas medical staff to replace those refusing vaccine and those that have walked away.
Maybe they could offer financial incentives here or pay nurses what they are really worth...hahaha.
Singapore cases on the up . https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/singapore-reports-highest-sin...
A bit on info on the COVID Vaccine
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-09-24/covid-vaccines-do-they-cha...
Good article fitz , some good stats there that show how effective the vax is . My worry is for my fully vaccinated 85 yo mother still contracting it . She’s had a good innings so far but it would be a horrible way to go out , seperated from family and a very lonely death
Yeah Supa, similar situation with my parents. Due to recent recoveries from cancers, fully vaccinated and nearly in their 80's, I have concerns for them too. Add to that, all us kids and grandkids spread out across the country, lockdowns, travel restrictions and quarantine......agh.
Some more data on Singapore , worth following as they have been 80% vaccinated since August. Summary of local situation
· 1,120 cases are currently warded in hospital. There are currently 163 cases of serious illness requiring oxygen supplementation, and 23 in critical condition in the intensive care unit (ICU).
· Over the last 28 days, of the 15,791 infected individuals, 97.9% had no or mild symptoms, 1.8% required oxygen supplementation, 0.2% required ICU care, and 0.1% has died.
· As of 22 September 2021, 82% of our population has completed their full regimen/ received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines, and 84% has received at least one dose.
https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-...(23-sep-2021)
Not sure how much truth to this article, it is the guardian after all and they don’t always get it right . https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/24/leaked-figures-co...
This is a good read , especially for those like me that are concerned for vaccination for children . Ithttps://sciencebasedmedicine.org/vaccine-myocarditis-an-update/
I find it quite amusing reading some of these comments. Especially the "Provax" that think they will be freely flying around the word at their leisure due to the fact they've had their injection. You obviously haven't done much of your own research. How far do you think the new point rated carbon footprint mastercards are going to get you?
Norway to end restrictions. https://news.yahoo.com/norway-end-pandemic-restrictions-saturday-1038577...
The NIH, CDC, WHO and FDA have all recommended dexamethasone - a corticosteroid which has shown efficacy in the treatment of severe covid. It's also a commonly used drug to treat allergies in horses.
Separately, there have been several studies funded by the Indian government, primarily conducted through their largest govt. public medical university (AIIMS).
Role of ivermectin in the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers in India: A matched case-control study (source)
Conclusion: Two-dose ivermectin prophylaxis at a dose of 300 μg/kg with a gap of 72 hours was associated with a 73% reduction of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers for the following month.
Ivermectin as a potential treatment for mild to moderate COVID-19 – A double blind randomized placebo-controlled trial (source)
Conclusion: There was no difference in the primary outcome i.e. negative RT-PCR status on day 6 of admission with the use of ivermectin. However, a significantly higher proportion of patients were discharged alive from the hospital when they received ivermectin.
Clinical Research Report Ivermectin in combination with doxycycline for treating COVID-19 symptoms: a randomized trial (source, double-blind randomized, peer-reviewed)
Discussion: In the present study, patients with mild or moderate COVID-19 infection treated with ivermectin in combination with doxycycline generally recovered 2 days earlier than those treated with placebo. The proportion of patients responding within 7 days of treatment was significantly higher in the treatment group than in the placebo group. The proportions of patients who remained symptomatic after 12 days of illness and who experienced disease progression were significantly lower in the treatment group than in the placebo group.
Here are more human studies from other countries on the 'horse dewormer':
Peru:
Sharp Reductions in COVID-19 Case Fatalities and Excess Deaths in Peru in Close Time Conjunction, State-By-State, with Ivermectin Treatments (source, peer-reviewed, University of Toronto, Universidad EAFIT)
For the 24 states with early IVM treatment (and Lima), excess deaths dropped 59% (25%) at +30 days and 75% (25%) at +45 days after day of peak deaths. Case fatalities likewise dropped sharply in all states but Lima
Spain:
The effect of early treatment with ivermectin on viral load, symptoms and humoral response in patients with non-severe COVID-19: A pilot, double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trial (source, University of Barcelona, peer-reviewed)
Findings: Patients in the ivermectin group recovered earlier from hyposmia/anosmia (76 vs 158 patient-days; p < 0.001).
Bengladesh:
A Comparative Study on Ivermectin-Doxycycline and Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin Therapy on COVID-19 Patients (source - peer reviewed, though not govt funded)
Conclusion: According to our study, the Ivermectin-Doxycycline combination therapy has better symptomatic relief, shortened recovery duration, fewer adverse effects, and superior patient compliance compared to the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin combination. Based on this study's outcomes, the Ivermectin-Doxycycline combination is a superior choice for treating patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 disease.
A five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness (source, peer-reviewed double blind randomized, though small sample size)
Discussion: A 5-day course of ivermectin resulted in an earlier clearance of the virus compared to placebo (p = 0.005), thus indicating that early intervention with this agent may limit viral replication within the host. In the 5-day ivermectin group, there was a significant drop in CRP and LDH by day 7, which are indicators of disease severity.
Meanwhile, There are currently 76 ongoing or completed clinical trials on Ivermectin around the world. Below are the results of 32 which have been completed. One can visit ivermeta.com and dig down on any of these / read the entire study. The site recommends Ivermectin in conjunction with vaccines to confer the best protection against Covid-19, however we'll leave that to you and your doctor to discuss.
@ nevertold, obviously you have "done your own research" ha ha another delusional moron who thinks they know more than the entire medical and scientific world. Listen to the experts and get a life you silly little fuckwit.
You could spend 20 years researching surfing online but unless you actually do it you would still be a total beginner kook, same goes with everything. Experts have devoted their lives to working and studying in their chosen fields and then some delusional Centrelink loser druggies spend ten minutes on a politically motivated click bait site and think they know it all. Fucking hilarious.
@old dog
time to learn some new tricks
well well well...
if vicco's health system gets overwhelmed, it seems there's just one person to blame...
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/politics/questions-raised-over...
as I've been saying, over 18 months to prepare for this wave... oz has had longer than anywhere in the world to prepare for this long lurking wave...
probably more cash to splash too...
seems dandrews is taking a leaf out of morrison from marketing's book... ie. big on announcements, little on substance
Inzider, Everyone I know has had a gut full of these selfish feral rent a crowd morons and want the cops to use as much force as necessary to send them packing. These animals have no respect for anyone or anything and deserve whatever they get. Clueless fuckwits.
@old dog
so the 70 year old lady is a selfish feral who deserved to be pushed over and pepper sprayed in the face, hmmmmm
Inzider , the 70 yo lady turned out to be a 35 yo male in a wig and dress . I’m not joking.
This message from someone named Spartacus has gone viral .
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damn-you-hell-you-will-not-destroy-am...
WATCH: Police move in to force HEALTHCARE WORKERS out of protesting in Melbourne
Masked, vaccinated and socially distanced but banned from speaking out. https://www.rebelnews.com/police_move_in_to_force_health_workers_out_of_...
@ inzider Of course I don't condone the rare over the top incidents, and there is always the odd bad apple in every bunch, but all the cops I know are absolutely top blokes who would give you the shirt off their backs. Why don't you post a clip of the anarchists rushing at the cops and throwing bottles and rocks and vandalizing peoples property and spitting and abusing these front line police just trying to do their jobs. The cops have generally shown amazing restraint in dealing with these wankers and everyone I know wish they had more power not less. The decent citizens need to be protected from the ever growing mob of lowlife dickheads who want everything now without working for it and threaten to spoil our treasured way of life. Cheers.
Ok! So this may not make the Front Page...
Dear Ed; CEO supafreak...so sorry for not making the deadline...
Gotta a scoop that'll get ya back on the front page...
Hot tip on a NRL Hot Box Lap Dance breach...
This tidbit was published in a US Paper recently...we can run with that...
tbb has omitted names for obvious reason...Why's that...Coz it's creepy!
Newspaper was sharing Vaxerz breakthru accounts in a quirky manner...
Then this terrifying global revelation of natural born killers was buried in plain sight.
Story goes a Frontline pregnant Nurse from Boston was ultra safe & got the CDC Mandated Vax.
Passed on the usual Vax immunity to baby > eg: by Chord or Breast Milk...didn't say...
Aside the naturally immune baby ...Vaxed Mum has 3 unvaxed kids naturally... aged 3 / 6 / 8
Re-books flight for the safest time to visit Utah to show off baby to family.
Crew can guess how Mum juggles that... but a baby strapped to chest is obvious...just saying!
Upon arrival in Utah..Mum & Baby can't stop sneezing.
With her medical background, was certain she had an 'Allergy' ...but the 3 kidz aren't sneezing?
Soon after Mum notices the 3 Kids are dead to the world...asking Mum if they'll be alright.
Mum grabs family & all Test [+] for Covid...
Turns out CDC mandated Vax for Pregnant Nurse which unknowingly weaponized then unborn Baby.
CDC spawned a Devil child with Supernatural super spreading powers to sneeze covid over USA.
CDC lab rugrat infected all it's siblings...& Baby may have showered all transit from Boston > Utah.
That's the point...no one suspects a high powered compact Covid sneezing machine.
Can imagine all over the world Mums with Care packages infecting a continuous trail within 20 seconds
Marshmallow Heads....
None of this Covid response is typical to non vaxed...this is 100% a Covid Vaxer'z signature Defence
Now what comes next is tbb cross referencing to form a near complete picture of Breakthru infection.
This is likely the first time any have revealed or written at such length, but it's based on best science.
And only now can tbb share a full breackthru sequence with help of similar personal accounts.
At first...Vaxerz seem slow to respond because they need to drain blood from limbs to flood the head.
Why the Head? Yer Brain Dummy...Vaxerz may not know it, but their body knows to protect the Brain.
This brings on Weak limb muscles & lays them out...
Their Blood engorges their Brain / Eyes / Tongue / Nose. Why! To deny cavities for the Virus to camp..
Exactly! Crew are wise...tissue inflation brings on Loss of Taste & Smell + a foggy brain...
The Vision is more vital so it's spared but the vessels are maxed out Red raw.
Depending on Vax time > Wane < > antibodies, determines the longevity of sensory loss.
For some 2 weeks others 6 months...some studies are recording the longevity but without any agenda.
Here's couple of ideas..
(1) Body knows to keep Defence in place if back up stores are waning! (Long breakthru Vax cases)
(2) Overproduction may still be fighting some last micro traces of shedding covid in the cavities.
(3) Could be that the body is sampling or weary of Asymptomatic / Symptomatic / Shedding as same!
Crew can read between the lines as Science is shifting to the Body's response for Vax & Long Covid
tbb is basically exampling how little any know about their own Vax or reactions (eg: newborns).
Read enough to know that the experts make it up... just as here...only it's often 6 months too late!
Crew can guess why Science is 6 months behind & all have pet reasons & all would be right.
Crew know tbb is no expert but our experts are too lazy to bother with any vax flow on...it's a crime!
Also never read so many Science Papers contradict themselves from one to next! That's good...maybe.
Vaxerz are unsure & suffering...& experts are at a loss...we can step up here.
First is that Vaxerz cough 43% less...tbb thinks the body in minimising Covid entry opportunity.
Antibodies can't control Airways but can defend in and around airways to limit coughing.
Swelling of Vaxerz Tongue is a main part of that defence as it too reduces Covid & need to cough.
The Vaxer'z body expels the Virus by flooding & ballooning Red Eye Balls to then cry out a covid river.
The reason being to flush out any & all hidey holes for Covid...including behind the eyes! Full on!
Nose is the same...dripping covid out like a running tap...you can't turn it off.
Mostly the Nasal tissue is blocked from inside to shape as a perfect sneezing Trumpet.
Vaxers spray 95% of the Covid Virus out...the rest is leaking from their Marshmallow Head.
A sneeze can infect a whole room in 20 secs...Instant clusters are a feature of Breakthrus
The Vaxerz shorter incubation sneezes more virus as an Airborne infectious Flu. (How can it not?)
Pause: Science deflects by answering with set questions but a few experts admit to extra vaxer spread.
Now 43-100x more to original + 18x more than on swabs.
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/covid-19-is-evolvi...
Offset that against ...Less Flu Vax & more Masks / Lockdowns
We sure did kill off our speedy Flu as it slowed it adopted Covid's creepy old 14 day infection
So Flu acts as Covid...tbb & bro were floored for 4-6 weeks...not deadly but drags out...like this...
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-58624295
Notice how similar Flu < > Covid become...Rollout out can train & time the seasons for such.
Very few tests can pick [+] > 13-17% vaxer misreads...increases to > 40-60% elderly
Flowing on from that > US/Oz are getting ...you guessed it... Covid/Flu Jab one in each arm.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7424338/officials-await-flu-covid...
The idea being for an Ultimate Defence to equally block Covid & Flu from spreading.
Hospital workers in the US getting laid off if unvaccinated . https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/28/nc-hospital-175-unvacci...
I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?