Kelly Slater to build world's largest wavepool in the Californian desert

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Swellnet Dispatch

Following several missteps and delays, the Kelly Slater Wave Company (KSWC) yesterday announced plans for the world's largest wavepool to be built at La Quinta, a suburb at the base of Coral Mountain in California's arid Coachella Valley.

Slater is teaming up with private real estate investment and development firm Meriwether Companies and Big Sky Wave Developments, founded by Michael B. Schwab, son of brokerage pioneer Charles Schwab.

“We chose to do this project because it allows us to further build on our technology and also because one of our founding partners, Michael Schwab, is heading up the group running the project,” Slater said in a statement.

“We’re excited to make another KSWaveCo design and I’m personally excited to create a new wave that will be a stand alone design that nowhere else in the world has. This can become the blueprint for new developments around waves and surf parks going forward and is in line with some of my original ideas from when we started this project. I can’t wait to get underway.”

Construction is expected to begin in early 2021 with the opening slated sometime in 2022, pending design and amended approval.

Josh Kerr, Shane Beschen, and Damien Hobgood are also building a wavepool just up the road, the DSRT SURF pool in Palm Springs will be powered by Wavegarden tech with the goal of a 2021 opening.

The KSWC wavepool will be part of a 400-acre site set at the base of Coral Mountain. The masterplanned community will include "a full-service resort, residential homes, a private club, multiple dining venues and adventure sport offerings".

The US$200 million complex will also have a 150-room hotel and up to 600 homes priced in the $1 million to $5 million range. Access to the pool will only be available to homeowners, hotel guests, plus members and their guests. 

No details on wave size have yet been released, however it'll take 68 Million litres of water to fill the pool - reportedly using less water than a golf course.

Currently, there are more than fifty golf courses within twenty kilometres of the site, and over a hundred in the greater Palm Srings area, all irrigated by an underground aquifer.

Last year, a KSWC wavepool in Slater's home state of Florida was canned due to groundwater issues, similarly a proposal in Tokyo to host the 2020 Olympics was rebuffed by the IOC, while a project on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland has made little progress.

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Solitude Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 10:45am

Is it better, bigger, longer? Just for more cash? I thought the viability was tough due to the infrequency of waves?

Sounds like lower middle class and below need not apply.

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fitzroy-21 Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 2:06pm

Fuck, with the above prices, I'd be surprised if upper middle class could afford it, without be up to their neck in debt.

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bill-poster Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 10:49am

That's great Kelly. Stoked for you.

Anything to fill the existential void.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 10:59am

back to Plan A: exclusive country club style resort/condos for the rich to play in.

fuck that noise.

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Solitude Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:01am

Yeah seems quite yawn worthy really

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freeride76 Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:10am

Long as we don't assaulted by some kind of pseudo-environmental greenwashing BS I don't give a fuck.

just build the thing and fuck off.

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see.saw Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:18am

Give me the ocean any day. Let em have it. Hope they don’t fuck to many people or the environment along the way.

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wally Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:24am

I have a mild amateur engineering interest in how a purpose built KS wavepool would perform. As I understand it, Lemoore was only originally a testing and development facility for the surf plough. Not necessarily meant to run as a public recreational facility. For one, I reckon they might be able to markedly improve wave frequency with much better turbulence mitigation with a purpose built pool.

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stanfrance Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:28am

The more things change the more they stay the same. Develop this, develop that, new technology, less impact than this....yada yada. Win yesterday with the Equinox decision, same old today with this. Perhaps Kelly saw this in his magic mushie vision in Mexico or wherever it was?

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Gra Murdoch Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:36am

For comparison's sake – how many litres is the Lemoore tub pls?

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stunet Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:38am

56 781 176 litres, give or take.

It's 15 million gallons.

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Gra Murdoch Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:43am

Used to be literage was about board volume etc, but might it be the new shorthand to compare tanks tubs n basins etc

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Bnkref Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 12:12pm

Tulla tub reported to be 25 million litres

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loungelizard Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 5:26pm

but how many olympic swimming pools and sydney harbors is this?

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zenagain Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 5:46pm

About *27 olympic sized pools worth based on 2.5mil litres per pool (average).

*based on my rough calculations.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:47am

Gra you had a spin in any of the tubs?

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Gra Murdoch Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 12:07pm

Nah mate. Cooked shoulder's kept me out for a while, plus kinda allergic to gatherings to be honest. Says more about me than tubs.

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Blowin Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:56am

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ryder Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:58am

Why isn't the plow double sided, running a left and a right off simultaneously?

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chrisss_91 Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 4:47pm

Why isn’t the track an oval that it just keeps going round and round on rather than resetting and going back and forth?

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freerider. Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 8:09pm

Just give them time, they'll get to it.

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freerider. Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 8:09pm

Just give them time, they'll get to it.

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shoredump Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 10:37pm

Just like an aircraft only flies in the air, and ground speed is irrelevant, a wave only breaks over water, and it’s ground speed is also irrelevant, well, apart from the bathymetry.
The circular thing ends up making a circular current, so the wave stops breaking.
If they could use jets to create a reverse current, then you’re in business

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zenagain Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:58am

I'd still love to give it a go.

There, I said it.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 3:36pm

You are not alone, people are just so negative online.

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freeride76 Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 7:43pm

what if Kelly, as a show of his environmental credentials had donated a million dollars to extinction rebellion Indo.

what would your reaction be then?

thought so.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 8:10pm

Hmm i was about to say Kelly would never do that.

But you know out of the water Kelly has some pretty weird and wacky views.

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see.saw Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 9:18pm

Do whatever it takes to make your money, make a donation. Zero guilt. That’s how it works

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freeride76 Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 12:02pm

mate I'd love to have given Pam Anderson a go in her prime.

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ringmaster Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 6:48pm

Me too!!!

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boxright Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 12:02pm

Lemmore has 250,000 gallons of evaporation per day over summer (taken from Wired.com)

Back of the napkin, that means 90 days in summer, 22.5 million gallons (85 million litres) is lost to the air, more than what the pool will hold.

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Ape Anonymous Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 12:44pm

Maybe Kelly is simply relegating competitive surfing -to the pool. That would be cool -leave the ocean for play and the pool becomes the battle ground.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 2:41pm

boxright is on the trail...
Current Lemoore Ranch holds 56.8ML & gulps down 1.1ML day (300,000 Gallons).
Equivalent of Oz Drought City of Stanthorpe 11,000 x 100L/day water restrictions.
https://stabmag.com/news/we-got-our-grubby-hands-on-the-surf-ranchs-deve...

Kelly berates us that he skols more michelob (water) at his local whiteshoe golf club.
By own admission Kelly's surf'n'turf requires an Ocean tide of 600,000 gallons / day
Kelly alone, consumes 22,000 peoples fresh water resource per summers day

Add on 1hr/day exclusive WSR Man on Man ocean size ultimate honeymoon spa.
WSL GC WSR Comp Dam size Approx (750m x 150m x 3m) = 337.5ML
Gold Coast WSR desal processes 133 ML day (WSL surf in SEQ WSR water supply)
We Goldie mugs must suck up PFAS+WSL Corona surfluenza slops + Jet Ski Fuel waste!
Consider most SEQ Water Reserves prohibit Motor fuel use + Dogs

WSL Ranch 1.1ML/day + Ultimate Golf 1.1ML/day + WSL GC reserve 133ML/day

Ultimate Surfer sucks dry a city of 1,350,000 purely for WSL private daily surf'n'turf.
tbb is billed 3 years in advance for Goat's Toxic Bath Toys & Quarterly for WSR Pee Filter.

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donweather Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 8:45am

Here’s a thought. Why don’t they use recycled water in these theme parks!!!

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peterb Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 2:47pm

October 9, 2012

The KS Surf Parks are coming. Breaking twenty-four hours a day every day. Monday is loggers day, Tuesday for the kiddies, Wednesday will be Ladies Day and Thursday the heats of the KS Surf Park Junior Pro….. this caper will be making too much money to count. Starting at the carpark @ $15 per hour. No responsibilities.

He’ll slice and dice us into market/price segments and we’ll be lining up to get into some of these everbreaking everlasting glassy peelers @ $45 per hour, on our specified day. Slobbering for a share of it because surfers have no shame. We never did, and now we have some money.

Everything in these parks will be commercially governed; water temperature, wave speed and wave height, wave frequency. Wave frequency – This means that the if ten waves are judged insufficient then they can be jacked up to twenty when the office workers start arriving for their late afternoon session. More surfers? … get someone to punch in the more waves option. Mr K Slater has all the numbers figured out.

Like ramping up the water temperature on logger’s day – just a little to help with their circulation so they’ll stay out there longer and pay more. Everything is a plus dollar here.

Cameras all around the course, high definition kit rolling along the perimeter on rails, right in front of you – Later on you will be able to buy the DVD of your rides. Later being on the same day, and on the way out. $150.

Maybe Mr K Slater will do a professional voice over of your rides – like, ‘ Fucken cutback Dude … !!! Just add a spare $50 to the $150 for the DVD.

Twice a day the wave direction will be reversed, what was a right is now a left. Stay in the water for the change over and rent a fifteen minute backwash session for $25. The KS Surf Park Makaha Shorebreak Bounce feature.

Rent a board, hire a towel, buy a nugget of wax, hire a decky to watch everybody go by. Buy a coffee, buy a Subway, buy a hamburger, slide in a few bets at the TAB. Drop the kiddies into day care. Check out the Singles Bar later, an intimate venue overlooking the break. For discerning surfers.

BACKGROUND MUSIC.

Jukeboxes next to the deck-chairs so your babe, she’s the one scoring a tan while all this is happening, can key in some favourite number while you go around – $5 per each, multiple choices – and this will be amped out at you from the directional speaker attached to the vidcam. So there’s the movie soundtrack sorted (this is how the DVD $200 now becomes $225)

Changing rooms, lockers, memberships, wave park regulations, officials, sirens on the hour, health checks, tickets-to-ride, expiry stickers, loudspeakers, and KS Wave Park T-shirts, caps, hoodies ..

Machinery breakdowns, IT breakdowns, water quality/supply problems, salinity problems – how much salt? How much flotation? How much evaporation? How much chlorine? Site water leakages, Public Liability Insurance, Life guards, towers, whistles, employees, corporate offices, accountants. Taxes, fines, inspections, annual operating licences, onsite ambulance officers, certificates of compliance, safety ratings. Council inspections, health inspections …..

yeah ..

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ringmaster Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 7:01pm

I enjoyed reading that P.B!

Disclaimer: Im half cut now........

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tom.keenan Saturday, 29 Feb 2020 at 8:50am

That sounds like Disneyland for surf on roids. give me a quiet 3ft day on the south coast of NSW. Bliss.

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 3:10pm

Honestly sounds shithouse,
Bad for the environment,
Filled with country club wankers and bankers.
Kelly will never be accepted either.
Weird move Kelly, really weird move.
Just retire and focus on golf.
Seems like there is plenty of options in palm springs( for golf).

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Vic Local Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 4:10pm

Kelly Slater Wavepools: the Bushwood Country Clubs of the 2020s.

"Well I guarantee you'll never be a member"
"Member? I don't want to join your crummy snobotorium."

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truebluebasher Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 4:12am

WSL Florida Surf Ranch...(#1 swellnet exclusive)

Nov 2017 WSL paid $6.5m (USD) Pine Glades (80 acre Site) @ Palm Beach Florida.

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Zoned Industrial Park Land backing onto wetlands.
WSL Proposed $50m 13.9 acre (*Concrete) lagoon (610m long x 55m wide)
Note: Concrete with Potable (Town Water + Chlorinated)...Massive cost!
6,625 m2 - Solar powered Buildings
WSL Comp site + Community/School/Adaptable/Athlete Training
Guest numbers 83,000/yr or 227/day
$33m boost to Economy + 300 jobs

Florida Wave Lagoon site plans (rare look see here)...
https://discover.pbcgov.org/pzb/zoning/Hearings-Meetings-LDRAB/Presentat...

Residents protested about 'Glades' impact from beginning to end!
Arguing against Re Zone...
Residents were cautious of Recent NLand neighbourhood Flooding. (Note *Concrete)

23rd March 2017 (Nuthin' Suss!)
PB Council "Unanimously" Voted-Fuck Yeah! To rezone site > Res/Rec Commercial
https://cbs12.com/news/local/giant-surfing-training-pool-clears-early-hu...
https://www.surfingthegulf.com/a-surf-ranch-in-palm-beach-county-florida/

30 May 2019 WSL pull out of Wave Lagoon.
https://www.wptv.com/news/region-n-palm-beach-county/surf-center-project...

PS: No one listened to the residents about the Glades impact.
The Glades water table was too high to dig a deep Wave Lagoon... Durr!
*Could have saved WSL $6.5m
*Now whole Whiteshoe Palm Beach Council & WSL prove they are greedy & stupid

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memlasurf Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 5:27pm

Can't work Kelly out on this one as he is so environmentally aware. The groundwater in this area has dropped nearly 19 metres since 1960 and is still on the way down. Seems like everybody in SoCal (35 million - more than the total for OZ) depends on the Colorado River for water via surface or aquifer replenishment. This surely can't be sustainable and if you take a look on Google Earth, the area is awash with water guzzling golf courses. Plus just down the road is an ultra saline lake which has to say something about the water once it gets too low. Just madness in such an arid area and very different to Urbn surf where they get it from the airport and we in Melbourne get around 650mm a year, they get 127mm if lucky. Bullshit really on Kelly unless I am missing something and he should be called out for it.

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Feralkook Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 5:40pm

Whilst KS might come across as environmentally aware, that does not mean he actually is. There are dollars in having that image, he knows it, "Jet ski Sally" knows it. The dollars are at play here and reading some of those figures around water waste and the fact he is building it in the middle of the desert, if anything, clearly demonstrates a total lack of environmental awareness.

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Feralkook Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 5:41pm

Whilst KS might come across as environmentally aware, that does not mean he actually is. There are dollars in having that image, he knows it, "Jet ski Sally" knows it. The dollars are at play here and reading some of those figures around water waste and the fact he is building it in the middle of the desert, if anything, clearly demonstrates a total lack of environmental awareness.

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Ash Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 6:32pm

Like that post peterb, almost like a rap version song lyrics.
Don't forget the mystery Choquito bar floater and the chlorine after burn, after glow.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 6:43pm

I'd pay double for the Slater voiceover PeteB.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 8:27pm

memlasurf might wanna read > June 2019 KSWC "Democrat Bill to the House".
Kelly is drawing a line under any Wave Pools smaller than KSWC Wave "Basins".
Essentially if you can waste as much water as Kelly, you can tear up The Pool Rules.

Cut off is...100,000 ft2 / 10 acres / 15,000,000 Gallons
(Reason for World's Largest Pool!) The bigger, the less laws on water quality & other.
Whereas rival Wavegarden + AWM (Waco) will be forced under Pool Safety Laws.
In other words, clever water misers like Waco 7.2ML are penalised & will go broke.
Theme Park Wave Pools Safety & Clean Pools are paid for by other operations.

Kelly has his foot on their necks...Go Big or Go Theme Park or Outta my way! (So sad!)
Bill also limits the number of Surfers as an extra cut off to push out WaveGarden.
Obvious aim is to keep wave pools premium & away from access to civic turnstiles.
KSWC Bill will shape the future tech & sites therefore the class of Wave Pool clientele.
Good example being ...Bodysurfers & Waders would be banned from "Surf Parks".
Yeah! Kelly is was a good bodysurfer...so this is about exclusive Tennis Ranch/Country Clubs

Same article also features comments from featured developer...
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/kelly-slater-wave-company-pool-regulatio...

Kelly even goes as far to legislate & win rewards as biggest water abuser on earth.
tbb is a fan of Kelly's surfing but can't excuse his evil exploitation of precious water.

Clearly Kelly sees Water & Surf as some sorta Power Tool or money tree. (So Sad!)

Scomo's Hurley Pick...Kelly as new minister for Oz water...shake hands with Angus!
That was the exact moment when the Planet started cracking up!

PS: March /April KSWC + Assembly Member & "Global Surf Park Summit".(California).
tbb will request an invite for crew...(Form Supplied....) Password: Goldie Whiteshoe Developer
https://www.surfparkcentral.com/surf-park-summit-2020-invitation-request/
https://surfparkcentral.com/SurfParkSummit2/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9vOO7O7u5...

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shoredump Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 8:25pm

Phew, another pool that doesn’t affect the ocean.

It’ll be awesome. Try not to be jealous

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Numbatt Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 10:50pm

I’m definitely breaking and entering.

Just have to somehow get there from the other side of the world.

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memlasurf Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 11:15pm

Tbb I read these and thanks and isn't it curious no one mentions where the water is coming from or even worse, seems to care. This would be one of the first things we ask here in OZ, but over there in the desert, not one word. Kelly seems to be about building a big one and there are laws which relate to water quality, which make it prohibitively expensive to build the big one. Kelly is all good about the environment when he is near the ocean, but then he is oblivious (I hope and not the greedy developer you are suggesting) to trashing the desert ecosystem. This is pretty serious stuff perpetuating a potential collapse of an ecosystem. I just don't understand why he is doing it. It makes you wonder about the people he is hanging out with and if it is rubbing off on him. His clothing is ho hum Ralph Lauren, way too expensive and sort of helps the environment without trying too hard (feel good factor). It would look at home on a golf course whose water use is off the charts (and the amount of chemicals they pump on US style courses to keep the grass lush is agal bloom nasty)....or a giant wave pool, The wealthy elites can afford it and don't care about the environment. Maybe he was always an elitist but charmed us to thinking he really cared and all the time had his eye on a much bigger prize, whatever the cost.

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SoCal Steve Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 4:13am

Should be interesting, but as most said, seems they are snubbing anyone without serious funds.
Maybe some tension in the water between "residents" and "hotel guests"...

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fitzroy-21 Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 2:33pm

There's a new concept. "Wavepool localism"

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MartinNow Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 6:41am

destroying aquifers by the million but I don't care, even though we haven't got a lot to spare

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DBEARINDARE Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 10:42am

You know what? If I had that sort of coin to spend from my hard work. I would,and I wouldn't be concerned about the sort of crap people waffle on with on sites like this one.
Why should'nt one be able to blow your money on these sorts of ventures if you can.
Life is not a rehearsal. And when you leave this earth, you leave with empty pockets. So why not spend it whilst you are above the ground. If I was cashed up from busting my slot and you are not. Maybe you need to be having a bigger dig at life. The wave pool developments are not ruining this earth, nor are those who buy in. Go and find what is really fucked up in the world. And yap away at them instead if you really want to high and mighty.
Or else you are just whinging because its not you in one of those condo's.

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Goofy4 Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 12:01pm

"Why shouldn't one be able to blow your money on these sorts of ventures if you can.
Life is not a rehearsal. And when you leave this earth, you leave with empty pockets. So why not spend it whilst you are above the ground.......Go and find what is really fucked up in the world. And yap away at them instead if you really want to high and mighty.Or else you are just whinging because its not you in one of those condo's."

Absolutely agree that a person ought be able to spend their dollars on what they want......after all, it's their money. Thing is, there are civil laws, criminal laws and environmental bylaws that define limitations as to what we can do with our money - sure go ahead and do what you want (or try to) but be prepared to experience the repercussions if a line is crossed ......that's not whinging, that's the way it is. And on the subject of whinging.....different people have different views on what is "fucked up in the world'...their view being different to mine or yours doesn't make the other's perspective 'high n mighty' - it makes it different rather than invalid. For example, I'm of the view that the many millions of forums like this really have no influence upon decision makers and decisions made. I think what these forums allow for is a discourse - the option to have a say and have a listen to what others have to say and maybe reflect on views and perspectives that are different to my own. Life is not a rehearsal and there are a range of ways in which we can live that life and display what is of personal value in doing so - be it spending all your money on whatever pleases or being an activist for a cleaner, greener world....

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amb Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 2:02pm

DB would you have the same attitude if you lived downstream of Kelly Pool and now your water supply is fucked. For mine Kelly needs to use recycled water or build it where water is not in such short supply.

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memlasurf Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 2:10pm

You don't by any chance have a sunburnt neck and live in Queensland do you.

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Trentslatterphoto Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 11:24am

makes all his words regarding climate change etc seem a bit hypocritical. his carbon footprint is extensive.

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DBEARINDARE Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 1:22pm

But have you considered a volcanic eruption will spew out far more climate changing toxins that we could ever produce. That is a fact also.
So yes, agreed we need to be as clean and green as we can so not to add unnecessary waste into our climate, but factors beyond our control can and probably will wipe everything out.
Have you heard the story about these things called dinosaurs that used to be here.

SPEND BIG! BUT HAVE CONSIDERATION AND SPEND BIG AGAIN.

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dandob Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 4:30pm

Big asteriod not big volcano where dino enders.

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DBEARINDARE the question about volcanic co2 compared to human co2 has been answered 30 years ago. Humans far outweigh volcanoes.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.climate....

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memlasurf Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 2:12pm

So don't take any responsibility at all. Good stuff hope it works out for you.

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freeride76 Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 2:22pm

I wish Kelly would just drop all the enviro-BS and come out and say he wants to be a billionaire.
whatever it takes to get there.

Thats clearly his main motivation.

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Blowin Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 2:52pm

I don’t think US society truly appreciates you until you can buy and sell humans. Money is their god. For all the “ citizen of the world “ jibber jabber Kelly is Septic to the core.

Aussies wouldn’t give a rat’s arse if Warnie worked at Kmart after his Cricket career , but seppo’s would see that as a failed life. Shane Herring isn’t held up as a role model for kids , but Australian society understands and appreciates his journey and career arc. Americans would treat him as a contemptible failed human.

Americans need MOAR !

* Epic movie BTW. Cheers Mr Webber.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 9:46pm

Dedicated to Goofy4.

In next to no time at all, Wave Pool Mobsters have infested every Govt level.
They steal our land, money & resource charge us for free events that we've paid for!

Crew don't wish tbb to muck rake!...to be honest, tbb is sick of outing these fuckerz!
Sure if you want this link or other, just ask nicely...(100% truebluebasher edition)
Really is soul destroying trawling through the days & lives of Wave Pool mobsters.

Reciting from Wave Pool Mobster's Bible (New Testament)
1 : Bribe Premier & Opposition Leaders
2 : Bankroll Mayor's Campaign
3 : Offload shares to Council Planning Go Between
4 : Go Between recommends Land Up Zone to CEO
5 ; Bribed CEO pens Up Zone letter to Bribed Premier
6 : Bribed Mayor says Here! Here! (Council say Wot!)
7 : Mayor tells Public...Nothing to do with us. (Council know ALL or Shit ALL!)
8 : State MP gets a free Junket to insure $3-5m annual cheques stays rubbery.
9 : Any onsite Tenants are offered alternative site...
10: Deception about site history (No Toxic Chem Dump here!)
11: Shame & denounce Local Landcare Rehab group spending 50 years detoxing site!
12: Newspapers push Town's wave Pool Mob as must have next big thing experts!
13: Forgot to add that Mayor owns every Printer in Town + APN $1b. (Letters to Ed?)
14: Consultation is corrupted thru in-house supporters dressed as Civic dogooderz.
15: Council Officers / Full Council [vote No] > Mayor overrules (In confidence) WTF?
16: Site Notice Boards neglect to inform of Basic (Contentious info) Judge agrees.
17: Onsite dig is left as a shit heap despite Dust complaints. (Zero revegetation!)
18: Mayor gave Pals half price water + Whole River > Council / officers [voted NO]
19: Council is held to ransom:(Free Comp) now $3m +$100/each WSL pool comp.
20: Now ratepayers must also cough up extra 2nd B grade back up Surf comp!
* Wave Pools clearly breach standard Safety procedure daily but none give a shit!

Wave Pool operator cries to Media about neighbours & how tough it is to bribe the Govt!

Crew here know tbb could carry on...but what's the point, as we'd all throw up!

Clear as day Wave Pool mobsters steal our money to lock us out! That simple!

Kelly ended US Surf leg on WSL tour & they will never forgive him.
Kelly / Surfing Qld are threatening GC council to rid our $3m GC leg of WSL tour...

WSL need total control to extract every last cent...you can't fight pure evil!
How much proof do you need....Kelly is cancelling #1 World crowded 'Surf Comps'
Kelly is corrupting our Govt to steal our Money, Land, Water & now our Surf Events

Sorry! But in 2020 how could any possibly think Kelly was wasting his own money!
Kelly never hurt anyone when he destroyed the Blue Planet...that's my kinda hero!

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simsurf Tuesday, 17 Aug 2021 at 3:25pm

Those that surf the GC won't miss the WSL. Less carparks, more wankers and a comp in 2' Snapper long-board waves, what is there to miss? I did hear a rumour about a GC wave pool though, but that is about all I can say.

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bipola Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 3:40pm

i read them all and now i am confused, i am going for a nap

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DBEARINDARE Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 4:28pm

Memlasurf, What part of we NEED to be green and clean do you take as not being responsible.
So I take it you have one set of clothes, walk everywhere, catch and grow only what you need to survive. No electrical goods, no plastics, nothing that was made by a enslaved worker. (which there are over 2 million of them globally today)
If the answer is YES. More power to you.
If not. You are irresponsible too.

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DBEARINDARE Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 5:22pm

Oh and by the way Memlasurf.
If you are a typical Aussie. There is more chance of you being a racist than me being a redneck. And before you get all huffy about that comment. Stop and think. In your entire life, You have only had to think this, not to mention say the following about someone.
You Bl..ck so and so
You W...g so and so
You Ch...ng so and so
You Sp...ck so and so
You Da..go so and so
and so on. The answer is YES you have been racist.
People in glass houses.... champ.

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ringmaster Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 7:35pm

Far out!

You're on fire mate.

Been drinking???

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AndyM Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 4:21pm

Haha, you must be on the pipe, right?

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memlasurf Saturday, 29 Feb 2020 at 1:10pm

Of course I have lots of wog mates went to school with heaps, the odd 4x2, poms, Indians, Asians and some black fellas as well we enjoy taking the piss out of each other and being friends. We even have mussers now as well, who tell me they will blow me up if I don't agree to the price. No denying difference let's have some fun with it and these are terms of endearment. It's called living and growing up in Melbourne not white, anglo Queensland which somehow gets a bigger say in how Australia is run than its population would suggest.

The rest of Australia has to cop a lot of red neck rubbish that comes out of QLD particularly from those with red hair and who owned fish and chip shops. Not sure why you are so defensive and can't rationally discuss some important issues. If you don't agree make a decent argument not "fuck this and that I am going to trash the world, and trash people who comment on this we site cause I'm pissed off with my life".

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simsurf Tuesday, 17 Aug 2021 at 3:30pm

What the fuck have you got against gingers and Queensland? I feel attacked. Words are violence.

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memlasurf Tuesday, 17 Aug 2021 at 3:53pm

Geez sim this was a while ago. Nothing against Vikings or banana benders just don't like one female in particular from that neck of the woods who is in parliament who uttered that wonderful question "Pleaseee explaaaain"?

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jayet-010 Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 11:26pm

I'm not reading any comment longer than fifeteen words. Makes it all so much easier.

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zenagain Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 11:53pm

Why close yourself off from what might be a revelation or an insight into something new?

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jayet-010 Thursday, 27 Feb 2020 at 11:56pm

Sorry ... I stopped at something ...

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zenagain Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 12:06am

Touche!

Well played sir.

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kang Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 8:55am

$20Mil win on Powerball. First thing I'd be doing would be to rent the place for a week. Don't sit there on your high horse pretending you wouldn't do the same.

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freeride76 Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 3:56pm

if I had 20 mill that'd be the last place I'd go.

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see.saw Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 4:37pm

Rent a boat for entire Indo season for less probably. Where’s your head at Kanga bra?

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Blowin Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 4:47pm

Twenty million dollars would see me leasing Desert Point for a year and live-streaming me surfing it solo the entire time.

Drive the viewing world world mad as I blow unforced roll-in takeoffs into perfect barrels , pull back on waves over 3 feet and roll around on the sand talking shit after getting way too pissed of a couple of warm Bintang longnecks in the sun.

Anyone interested in a crowd fund ?

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shoredump Saturday, 29 Feb 2020 at 9:53am

Buy 30 properties on the outskirts of Sydney, rent them all out for $500 each, then chase swells around the world, while slowly amassing further properties

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memlasurf Saturday, 29 Feb 2020 at 12:49pm

No but can I be your partner.

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HaddoCurl Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 3:39pm

Claim - counter claim - more claim. Where are you G Webber...

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truebluebasher Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 6:23pm

Webber is rubbing shoulders with KSWC @ Intergalactic Wave Pool Party.
swellnet crew can send HaddoCurl as their Rep... { Intergalactic Pool Party invite }
https://www.surfparkcentral.com/surf-park-summit-2020-invitation-request/
https://surfparkcentral.com/SurfParkSummit2/

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udo Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 8:47pm

$1500USD for standard registration- Webber is a confirmed speaker..

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Oh Swell Friday, 28 Feb 2020 at 6:35pm

peterb that was some prose

http://video.bobdylan.com/

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walter-r-white Saturday, 29 Feb 2020 at 11:04am

So if Kelly himself is in the desert digging this pool, how will he also find the time to do the tour? So sick of the Kelly does this Kelly does that hype? Kelly puts his name to (for a fee plus a consulting gig, maybe paid in equity) is more like it.

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lost Sunday, 1 Mar 2020 at 9:50am

Having spent some time now at the Tulla Tub I’d say KSW has huge amount of catching up to do. Remember WaveGarden had their test site up and running for a number of years and are now rolling out around the globe. KSW has to start again because the foil train model just does not produce enough waves. Even if they doubled up to produce a right and left at the same time the 4 mins between a waves is a killer when at Tulla Tub you are getting 20xthat.

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tubeshooter Sunday, 1 Mar 2020 at 8:59pm

Blind Freddy saw this coming.
As for the exclusiveness for the residents , I,m sure the 150 room hotel also with club membership for tourists will negate the value of that offer.
You can't replace the smell and the sound of the ocean with a fucking machine , and if idiots want to fork out that much coin to live next to it ,, good luck to them ,, one less dickhead buying up coastal property and annoying the line up.

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eastcoastbuoy Monday, 2 Mar 2020 at 6:21pm

you nailed it PeteB.........
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye"
Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye............................

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truebluebasher Monday, 16 Mar 2020 at 1:06pm

World's Largest wave pool
World's Largest Surf Resort
World's Largest Artificial Wave
World's Largest Open Barrel
https://www.archiexpo.com/pt/prod/flow-rider/product-152974-1766218.html
World Largest Waste Of Water (Almost!)

For the record this pool is smaller than both Ranch & China Pools.
Chinese Olympic Wave Train Pool 654m x 144m (95,260 m2)
Sunshine Coast Ranch was reportedly 1km long?
Lemorre Surf Ranch 620m x 43m ( 31,140 m2)
Coachella Wave Pool (2,000ft) 609m x ? m - Approx (30,000 m2)

Kelly's designs keep narrowing to open up the face, so this pool won't be wider.
Kelly examined the Waco Wave Face open wider as it lagged from the wall..no going back!

Kelly's square on plough used more power & pool for less wave face & poor rear views.
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C5612AQH4_iwaNXnSCg/article-inlin...
Angled blade saves pool resource for longer open face for ramps & wide angle viewing!
https://stabmag.com/assets/post-hero-banners/_resampled/ScaleWidthWyIxMj...
Kelly Played around with reef shelf Bathymetry > Texas is Mach II in this regard.
Note how narrowing the straight brings Spectators in close to view open longer face.
Eg: The more angle opens a point wrap wall as to Mach 1 shorter pier restrained ride.
https://raisedwaterresearch.com/spot/wave-pool/us/texas/surf-ranch-austin/

Chinese Straight Plow, Surfers gotta retreat & cancel moves to avoid pier collision.
https://www.surfline.com/surf-news/first-look-chinas-26-million-wavepool...
https://wavepoolmag.com/world-treated-to-chinese-mystery-wave-clip-details/
All that money wasted on a Totally restrictive Olympic surfing toy.
Pretty sure, they too worked out the angled blade trick but needs shelf bathymetry.
So yeah! Gotta pull it all up like Kelly & all the others as (Surf Lakes again, right now!)

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 17 Aug 2021 at 2:47pm

Holy Shit does this site need an update...Ok! Lets ramp & Flip this all in the one go!
Wot! Crew know we can & should do just that!

Say NO to the Wave (Petition)......(Wot? Yep! It's a thing...keep up...said we're flippin' this!)
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/72BVMV5
Save Coral Mountain from Evil Greedy Wave Pool Developers (Fighting Fund)
https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-coral-mountain-from-the-wave-project?mem...

Damn! Another Shit Hot Anti Wave Pool Poster...Drool!
Grom: "Wish our local could stoke up a wildly irresponsible Tsunami Wave Pool development please!"
Developers are gonna employ Anti Wave Pool crews to reboot their lame head dip Promos!
https://www.saynotothewave.com/

Update...
Coral Mountain WSL / Pro 4x Events/yr ~ 2,500/day over 4 days
Open to o/n Accom Members - 7am -10pm 365 days/yr
600 residences (See Stu's Feature) These are all now Short term accom...(Home owner thing is over!)
Surfer Pays for set accom' to gain privilege > Pays again to spin Gold plated Wave Pool turnstyle.
[Disclaimer] Can still get bumped if a Pro or Elo rides into town or so much looks in yer direction!

19th July { Local Paper + Letters }
https://cvindependent.com/2021/07/surfs-up-some-la-quinta-residents-batt...

Fly by Nite VIPs bump Paid up Residential Members > Town are fine to bathe in their Glow.
Glow: 17 Football Fields Floodlights 17x 80ft + extra 25ft/40ft poles to spotlight the Pro Poster Shots.
Pro's Floodlights blot out Coral Mountain, Desert Sky, Moon & Stars but light up yer bedrooms.
Comp sound system / Jet Skis promises to drown out pesky Coyote's Howling at WSL Floodlights.
Land Rape development cements over all wildlife corridors to starve endangered desert critters.
Golf courses turn off Recycled water in drought / Wavepool buys extra townwater to keep VIP's afloat.
Whopping 18m Gallon Basin of Town's drinking water heated to 44' then vanishes into thin air?
Development brings Town to a standstill with additional 8 sets of traffic lights.
Extra traffic Lanes & Larger Multi Lane Roundabout.
Fit existing Local streets with Turnarounds for w/e "Special Event Wave comp queues".

tbb is exhausted...Shut down the half the state just to get shacked!
Be thankful the Goat is an environmentalist...this could be much worse.

30th July - Town Fights off Wave Pool.
https://www.greenstate.com/business/san-francisco-bay-area-hotel-news-ca...
5th Aug (Submissions end)
13 Aug - Coral Springs resistance
https://wavepoolmag.com/coral-mountain-meets-resistance-from-neighbors/

April 2022 Proposed "Coral Mountain" Approval > Start Date?

3 other Wavepools proposed in Coachella Valley

Palm Desert (DSRT) Wave Garden (Open Use)
https://www.dsrtsurf.com/
Thermal Beach Club ( AWM - Perfect Swell ) Residents Only or $240,000 yr (minimum) For real?
https://wavepoolmag.com/update-whats-going-on-with-the-thermal-beach-wav...
https://surfparkcentral.com/thermal-beach-club-surf-park-coachella-valle...
https://raisedwaterresearch.com/spot/wave-pool/us/california/thermal-bea...
Palm Springs (Wave-SurfLoch) Open Use.
https://www.swellnet.com/comment/679642

Check out Stu's excellent Basque bookend Report of Euro Wave Pool resistance...
https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2021/07/22/basque-wavegarden-p...

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groundswell Tuesday, 17 Aug 2021 at 5:28pm

Back when these plans were made, wasn't California in a drought?

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simba Tuesday, 17 Aug 2021 at 7:29pm

real tv real people...........

&t=3s&ab_channel=extratv

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 18 Aug 2021 at 11:42pm

Right you are groundswell...
March 2015 Review recommends water restrictions
2015 State of California Water Restrictions by 36%
16th June 2015 La Quinta Water Restrictions (Turn off Fountains > Grass to Desert)
New developments to tap into Colorado River / Recycled Water (Not Potable Aquifers)
Restrict use on New Developments
Prohibit ALL new Water Features unless "Non Potable Public". (Private Wave Pools?)
2017 continues
Aug 2021 All residents to cut back 15% Water

Kelly's Lemoore Ranch Sloshes > Evaporates (1.1ML) or 300,000 Gallons /day

Town's By Laws (River County is actually least strict but still hardcore!)
http://www.cvwd.org/261/Drought-Updates
#3 Dining establishments can only serve drinking water on request
#4 Must offer guests 'Optional' to Daily Towels/Laundry
Kelly's (2x 750 x 2 Beach / Bath Towels - Guests could wash Towels in the Pool?

#10 (Redo on that Water Feature Law...thought we could rework or twerk that one!)
No use of Potable Water in a Fountain or other decorative Water Feature...(Bummer!)
(Not so fast!)... Except where the Water is part of a recirculating System..."Wavepool"

(Desert Wavepool recirculating system example)
Kelly heats his standard 300,000 Gallon/day Wave Pool wastewater to a Temp of 44'
Kelly could / should evaporate 500,000 Gallons of Town's precious drinking water/day.
Brew in some Cloud Seeds, drape a Cloud Catcher over the Floodlights...Rain fills Pool.

Hooks up Michelob Water on Tap & none know the difference.
Charge extra to Double Eco Surfers BYO Towels as sheets - full of desert sand.
Imagine all the VIP's queuing up, swiping cards for a shakin' Sandy Towel Surf Hang
Take their sand filled grubby towels home as a free Souvenir. { Rubber Stamped }

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MartinNow Thursday, 19 Aug 2021 at 7:21am

a vampire, sucking blood from the earth (thanks Neil Young)

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MartinNow Thursday, 19 Aug 2021 at 7:39am

sell you twenty barrels worth (Neil again)