John John And Steph Take Leave Of 2025 CT Season

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Swellnet Dispatch

Within an hour of each other, John John Florence and Steph Gilmore anounced they weren't planning to compete on the 2025 CT season. Between them they have eleven world titles. The news comes a week after Gabriel Medina - who has another three world titles - announced he was missing the start of the season through injury.

With a new baby, a burgeoning business venture, a healthy taste for adventure, plus a brother who's finding success outside of the contest singlet, John John's announcement maybe shouldn't come as a surprise.

In what might be considered a generous move, John will not compete in the Pipe Pro which will provide his replacement, Mexico's Al Cleland jr, the maximum opportunity to prove himself before the mid-year cut.

John John Florence (WSL)

"I’ve decided to focus on surfing in a different way this year," said John, who's 32-years old. "I want to create the time to explore, find new waves, and draw different lines."

"I intend to compete full on for another world title in 2026, but right now this idea of adventure and creatively pushing my surfing as far as possible is really exciting! The ocean is so big and there are so many different types of waves to explore. I’m stoked to be filming into some new projects and planning to share the amazing places we get to go along the way."

John will receive the 2026 Season Wildcard, which will allow him to compete in the 2026 CT season.

After taking the 2024 year off to travel and unwind, Steph Gilmore, who turns 37 on the 29th January, postponed her return.

"After careful consideration, I’ve decided to take another season away from the WSL tour," said Steph.

"This time will allow me to focus on healing some lingering injuries and redirect my energy toward continuing my adventures of surfing around the globe. I’m deeply grateful for the unwavering support of my sponsors and I wish all the athletes on tour the best of luck this season!"

Steph will also receive the 2026 Season Wildcard, which will allow her to compete in the 2026 CT season.

Stephanie Gilmore (WSL)

Steph's announcement had the WSL running to the rule book to find her replacement. As per their press release:

"As Gilmore had been assigned the same wildcard for 2025, her position was open to be determined by the WSL Commissioner's Office, which awarded it to Luana Silva (BRA) as the next in line on the 2024 CT rankings (the next in line on the CT rankings would be Lakey Peterson, who was already assigned the 2025 Season Wildcard. With Peterson’s qualification, the position continues down to Silva)."

Meanwhile, Gabriel Medina's injury has been succesfully treated and he'll miss the first three events of the season. Following those events, Gabriel will reassess his plans for the rest of the year. Whatever happens, the WSL Commissioner's Office has already assigned Medina a 2026 Season Wildcard, which will allow him to compete in the 2026 CT season.

2023 Rookie of the Year Ian Gentil has been announced as Gabriel's replacemen. Gentil will replace Medina in the first three events of the season, and perhaps more if Gabriel chooses not to compete.

Lastly, 2022 event winners Moana Jones Wong and Kelly Slater will enter the 2025 Lexus Pipe Pro draw as event wildcards.

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jasper99 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:25am

It's getting harder to watch without these 2 surfers involved.....kind of like the Tennis tour without Rafa and Roger, just not the same.

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:28am

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t-diddy Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 2:25pm

THAT is the dream tour!!

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DingOZ Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:36am

The writing has been on the wall for quite some time.

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Vince Neil Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:36am

Nate has cracked the code...have fun travelling the world with your mates...surf great waves.

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memlasurf Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:01pm

Gee who would have thought?

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Thanos S Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 5:10pm

haha, u called it but maybe post pipe.

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fitzroy-21 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:38am

"Lastly, 2022 event winners Moana Jones Wong and Kelly Slater will enter the 2024 Lexus Pipe Pro draw as event wildcards."

Typo?

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:42am

Yeah 2025. Cheers.

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:40am

Who might this favour?

The male rookies will breathe just that bit easier and I expect surfers on the cusp of the title - think Griff, Jack, and Italo - will be relishing it.

Italo's off-season weight training has been an eye-opener.

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Island Bay Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:05am

Captain Beefcake

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tail high to the sky Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:56am

I remember reading owen wrights biography. He talked about 2012 where he bulked up to 92 kgs from low 80s. Said it was totally useless for his surfing and completely stuffed his air game. It showed. He went from 3rd in 2011 to 10th in 2012 when many thought he'd be in the frame for a title. Hopefully Italo hasn't bulked up to the point it's counter-productive.

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:03pm

Reminds me of Clive James' description of Arnie:

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simba Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:12pm

well im sure uplift would have something to say on this

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dawnperiscope Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:26pm

I had to look up the CJ quote, and found a whole bunch of them.. nice to be reminded of how sharp he was

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batfink Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 7:50am

Something about a bag of walnuts if I recall correctly.

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basesix Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:16pm

rumour is, wsl is pepping up the spectacle at comps with Richie Vas hosting some UF(sea) challenges this season. unclear if it's on land, or 'anything goes' heats.

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simsurf Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 9:40am

Bulk like that doesn't help your surfing

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shraz Tuesday, 28 Jan 2025 at 11:27am

I reckon most of our guts would benefit from a photo while wearing a belt like that! Haha! old-skool AI tech!

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:10pm

Italo is only 5'6 though,Owen was 6'3 or 6'4.
A few extra kilos probably won't help him any more in the air,but i reckon he might start getting more recognition for his turns and hacks,which i've always thought were quite a way behind his air game.

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Watt Tyler Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 2:33am

I think he is closer to 5’4

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Sprout Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:45am

I'd be on a yacht straight to the Lines or Marshalls.

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zenagain Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:48am

JJ and Nate on the Slab Tour.

That's worth watching.

Hope Kelly wins Pipe.

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memlasurf Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:07pm

+ Gabby?

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:34pm

Is the forecast showing it'll pump?
I don't wanna see him go out early for the 3rd year in a row.
He needs to get to get to the business end of the event every year to justify his inclusion for the next year.
Otherwise he's taking an opportunity away from someone with their whole career in front of them who should have it.

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suchas Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:51am

Steph to join the slab tour?(*rights only)

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yahabo Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:54am

Slater as a wildcard. Jesus. What about when he's 90? Will he still get a look in?

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:56am

It's getting a bit silly isn't it.

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yahabo Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:00am

He'll be dead and they'll still give him a wildcard. Can he just fvck off? Or how about graciously refusing it because he wouldn't want to take a spot from someone with a future? Of course the latter will never happen...

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basesix Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:15am

did he ever explain blowing off the last eddie?

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Itsmemickyb Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 7:42pm

i assume just to avoid injury

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lost Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:04pm

I can hear his excuses when he fails to make a heat already - wan’t feeling it, nagging injury, was at trumps house advising on vaccines, didn’t sleep well, stubbed his toe, baby this, baby that….

And the words you will never hear - i was beaten by better surfer, he surfer better,

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mick66 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:37pm

KS "Congrats to my opponent. He really deserved the win. Would he have won if my back, ankle and solar plexus hadn't flared up? I'd like to think not, but I wouldn't use my injuries as an excuse. He won fair and square, even if I wasn't at my best. I wasn't going to mention this, but I'd been up all night, as RFK called me to offer the position of Senior Vaccine Adviser . I told him I couldn't take a full time position, and he never seemed to understand my offer of coming to DC whenever I felt like it, as a wildcard. I think I'm more than qualified, as I certainly know more about health than most "experts." But after speaking with Dirk and MBS, I just think it makes more sense to focus on bringing surfing to the Saudi general public. We'll be working on a new reality show, in which 1 of 16 condemned political prisoners can have their sentences commuted to life at hard labor by winning the pool contest. There was Survivor. Now there's Real Survivor. No judging panel Just me. Like it always should have been. Dirk says the ratings are going to be all-time. If I can do well while doing good, why not, right?"

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yahabo Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:41pm

Post of the year and we're still in January...

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udo Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:55pm

Turn out Kellys Tailbone was the Problem and needed some Work

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mr mick Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 7:01pm

Is that John Hopoate in his new job? And in drag as well !!

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mick66 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:14pm

Thanks yahabo, but more like my one good post of the year.

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memlasurf Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:10pm

Ha nothing superfluous about that!

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Standingleft Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 9:59am

I just think it makes more sense to focus on bringing surfing to the Saudi general public
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3vickers Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:24am

that's my two 'never-miss heats' gone with jjf & medina out...on the plus side no setting the alarm for stupid o'clock

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Standingleft Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:26am

So Nate will have John, Gabriel and Stephie on his yacht? 14 x WTs
With a fully armed film crew
At the best locations in the surfing world
And they won't surf unless it's off the dial
yyeeww
Vs half baked Pipe with old man Slater handing out a master-class in backhand tuberiding for the tour rookies he hasn't trounced already.
OK, let's Gooo

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Watt Tyler Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 2:34am

Sold the yacht

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:35am

Will John go the way of every other ex-CT surfer and ride a twinny?

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Standingleft Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:24am

When the slabs aren't slabbing, would be great if they did a World Champs Testing Shit segment?
vintage boards, radical shapes

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memlasurf Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:11pm

Old mans boards I am a convert.

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ron Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:05am

Can't wait for all the Florence content this year.

Can wait for the WSL. If they don't get waves, this year might be the straw.

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:14pm

I don't reckon there'll be as much as people expect.
He'll be at home a lot being a good dad that's around a lot for all those special growing moments with his little bub.
We might get some diaper changing clips and crawling to walking clips drop from him to make up for less surfing clips than we were anticipating though lol.

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juegasiempre Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:08am

The best goofy and the best regular surfers of all time out? Oh, no big deal I guess. We still have b grade brazzos and Ian Gentil competing.

I hope Al Cleland seizes the chance though. I look forward to watching the YouTube highlights.

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southernraw Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:14am

That's now 25 world titles exiting the woz ship in the last 2 years (granted some injuries, some forced out from form and age and some 'taking a break'.

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Onlytwo Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:18am

Reckon they might be off to the Darlo coast now the words out Stu!

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:39am

It's obvious isn't it?

JJF will have his yacht moored offshore, he and li'l bro waiting for the gnarliest day at low tide Spinners to film and post content, while Steph will be on a Search™ with Vaughan Deadly editing out obvious headlands but everyone will know of course.

Place like the Darlo can only stay a secret for so long.

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Island Bay Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:33am

In related, and positive, news:

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:48pm

I hate hip-hop in surf footage ...like .like...

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memlasurf Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:13pm

Man can surf but.

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Solitude Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:41am

Was Steph ever coming back? Not much said about this. I dunno- she’s GOAT I know, but if you’re pulling the pin on two seasons, is it time to utter the ‘R’ word?
The women’s surf world has moved dramatically in 2024, I expect similar seismic shifts this year as well.

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:51am

Slater came out of his semi-retirement aged 30, feeling like he had much more to achieve. It still took him three more years to match the new generation of surfers and win another world title.

Steph is a brilliant surfer but it's very hard to see her matching the new generation of women surfers right now, let alone two or three years from now when she'll be pushing forty.

Retirement? I'd be more surprised if she returns to the coloured singlet next year.

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Solitude Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:28pm

Agreed.

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memlasurf Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:14pm

Ditto

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:05pm

It didn't take him 3 years to match anyone else's level.
He was doing it straight away.
It took him 3 years to beat Andy.

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freeride76 Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 5:58am

Exactly- he was over-surfing the first couple of years back- took him a minute to settle down and crack the code again.

Steph will get wild carded for Snapper and J-Bay if she wants it.

The real question is how many wildcards does Kelly get- especially in the absence of so much world title talent.

Has to be at least 3- might be more - Pipe, Abu Dhabi, Snapper, Chopes, J-Bay?

Anyone care to bet?

Sponsors will be pushing hard- no-one is showing up or tuning in to watch QS warhorses go around again and scrap for 6's and 7's.
They need stars and wheeling Kelly out, even if he was ice cold on a slab, would still draw a crowd.

Steph is done- this "I'm not retired" retirement announcement is all about placating Rip Curl who inked an 8 year deal with her last year, no doubt with some expectation they would see her back on Tour.

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dawnperiscope Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 7:03am

I reckon you’re right, he’ll get wildcards and some 53 year old mayo from the judges.

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dawnperiscope Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 7:14am

He will be rubbing his hands together with the prospect of tricky backdoor conditions

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Jono Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 7:40am

If he goes in enough events he might rack up the points, stay above the cut and qualify for 2026

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dawnperiscope Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 10:14am

Or win another title!
You can’t script this, but you can change his bogey location for a pool and make the finals at his favourite wave.
If the top seeds aren’t on their game and let him get thru a few early heats, who knows.

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southernraw Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 8:47am

Give him endless wild cards FR!!!! haha.
As for Steph, watched the poddy with Mark Howard and when it came to the discussion of big heavy surf she admitted it was a weakness, but didn't seem to show alot of passion in tackling that task in the future. Which is fair enough, but without that dog hungry desire to charge thick slabs, it ain't gonna be pretty for her if/when she does come back. A good mentor wouldn't go astray in that regard i reckon, same as how Desouza called on J.O.B. Does Steph want it that much though? Unlikely i reckon. Not when 16 year olds are winning Pipe trophies right in front of her and are only looking to get better...and more of them! Crikey!

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freeride76 Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 8:54am

They might have too SR........seriously the mens Tour is now looking very, very light on for marquee surf stars and Kelly keeps the turnstiles moving and the chip fryer's full.

I would not be surprised if Kelly surfed every event this year.

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goofyfoot Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 10:00am

Has he named his kid yet?

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southernraw Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 10:53am

I hope so. Just to annoy @lost!! Hehehe
Yeah looks shit now. Not alot of high end superstar talent.

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kaybeegee Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 7:36am

She’s also 36. Maybe she is looking at kids?

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WelshyBoy Tuesday, 28 Jan 2025 at 3:53am

I don't think she was ever coming back. She's an amazing surfer but with the new heavy spots on the womens tour (Pipe / Chopes) the standard of the newcomers is too high plus she clearly isn't comfortable in lefts. I'm sure I will offend fans by saying that.

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burzum Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 11:46am

Man, that is disappointing! He along with Ethan were the main reasons I even bothered tuning in. On the plus side, hopefully Ethan and Jack will have a shot at the WT?

Looking forward to seeing John featuring more heavily in Nates youtube channel then. Noone does a better full rail turn...

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crg Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:07pm

The best surfers in the world don’t want to surf on the World Tour.
Enough said.

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peabo Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 5:08pm

Don't disagree with you in theory, but who are you actually referring to here besides JJF??

Steph is surely not the best in the world at this point and Medina is out due to injury, not choice.

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crg Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 5:41pm

Cmon Peabo…don’t ruin my biased narrative with obvious facts please…

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:58pm

Toledo last year and Carissa for the 2nd year running now shouldn't be forgotten either.

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Roker Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:07pm

Cannot for the life of me understand why he didn’t announce this news after Pipe? And say that he planned to compete in select events, Tahiti and JBay most likely, depending on the forecast of course. Hasn’t he learnt anything from you know who? Who’s this Al Cleland jr anyway? The plight of these poor schmucks who’re doing the hard grind to make a career for themselves need not be considered. Nor should the question of the integrity of the Tour. Jesus, what’s wrong with this dude?

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david 24 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:37pm

By announcing his break pre Pipe , JJ gives Al Cleland a clear run at the CT which was very gracious. Otherwise the Wozzle can hand out wildcards at their own discretion. Cleland charges ( final 8 at Chopes in the Olympics) and has an air game ( won Huntington ) . Look his surfing up.

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JD Croobyard Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 5:36pm

I may be wrong, but I read Roker as a bit of a joker who was actually giving JJF a wrap whilst having a crack at Slater?

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scrotina Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:13pm

im surprised it took john so long to join nate. steph cant go left so its irrelevant, and hearing a pro surfer need to take a year off to travel and unwind, give me a break, thats all pro surfers do. they have the best lifestyle on the planet. her sponsors must have more dollars than sense

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Solitude Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:35pm

Yeah turn it up. Need a ‘break’ - from what exactly? Pro surfers aren’t necessarily to blame, they’re conditioned, but so far from reality it’s not funny.

Only well set up surfers can go ‘explore their surfing and find new lines’………but really - they were paid to surf all day, everyday around the world anyway.

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dawnperiscope Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:20pm

Perhaps, deep down, GM is the only one JJF really cares about proving himself against.

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Nate1212 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:48pm

Absolutely agree. They are the top of their generation for sure. And just because Kelly wanted to stay on tour for ever doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same way.

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:51pm

Natural overall talentwise he doesn't need to think that for a second.
I'd rather watch JJF in any good quality waves 5 foot and over in any break,anywhere,anytime,lefts or rights,over Medina.
But he has quite a bit of work to do to be as good or better a competitor than Medina.
Even though they've both got 3 world titles,i reckon Gabe's titles were more convincing and dominating over the rest of the field.
The fact he has about double as many tour victories as John in the same length career pretty much confirms that to me.

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only-sams Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:24pm

Why are pro surfers so afraid to just retire?

Retiring at the top is such a power move and I wish more people did it Ala Ash Barty. Cannot fathom why Steph didn’t retire on the ski after winning #8.

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Nate1212 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:50pm

Absolutely 100 percent on this. What more have any of them got left to prove.

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OHV500 Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 3:40pm

Totally agree - eg: Casey Stoner

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:39pm

Announce retirement,your sponsors shake your hand, wish you well for the future and their paychecks stop coming.
String them along indefinitely,then they'll wait on the sidelines thinking you're coming back next year,and keep sending you allowances in the meantime.
Well that'd be the competitive minded sponsors anyway with the biggest names in the sport i reckon.

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basesix Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:50pm

yep. or just being half as cynical, in cahoots with sponsors, you string general public and potential customers along. (if it helps a deserving legend milk their commercial cache in this wsl climate, fine by me.)

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dandandan Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 11:04am

Money.

They're all accustomed to obscene, unimaginable sums of it now. A future outside of the tour is always a gamble, even if the tour itself is hardly what it used to be. Especially when you consider the non-surfing partnerships they deal in who potentially care about "current world number one" type slogans more than the surfing public. I'm thinking here of Steph's partnerships with people like Audio and Woolworths etc. My gut feel is those kinds of income streams start to dry up once you're no longer competing.

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ryder Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:26pm

Steph, JJ and Slater waiting for a new Dream Tour.
This shit-show the WSL are dishing up the last 4-5 years is really hard to get into...

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Solitude Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:32pm

Slater well past any ‘dream tour’.

Although the current format is different- pipe, snapper, jbay, trestles, cloudbreak,
Bells and WA is basically the dream tour.

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jetson.rover Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 12:00am

Personally i reckon his dream was to never be off tour.
And once he eventually was,to maintain the same level of attention and relevancy he's always had before then.
Well unless i've been watching a different show for a long time now,that seems to be the evidence i've witnessed.

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dawnperiscope Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:42pm

Or maybe he's just seen the pipe forecast.

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Nick Gee Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 12:51pm

there’s no way JJF wrote that “find new lines” bullshit, settle down.

but yeah, good on him for giving up his spot at the Pipe comp… even with his ability to manage the crowds there imagine giving up the chance of an uncrowded heat or two at that place!

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:26pm

Something Slater would never do even 20 years older and off the tour lol.

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Nick Gee Thursday, 30 Jan 2025 at 2:28pm

Edit: he's turned up at Pipe. can't blame him.

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lost Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:08pm

1 year off and free ticket for a world champ - i can live with that but 2 years and then saunter back on. Na don’t dig that. Don’t think Steph is coming back at any rate.

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spinafex Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:24pm

I think we'd all like to take a year off work and just go surfing.

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:57pm

Look just stay at work,
We don't have to work on our surfing lines or angles.
We don't get paid to surf,
They get paid to surf, in contest or where ever .
Futher more , when it's your business you can make the rules.

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:58pm

florence surfshop/ slab / great waves tour.

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crg Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 1:55pm

In some good news…after finishing up with Billabong…RCal has joined Jules at Rivvia

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tail high to the sky Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 4:24pm

Awesome!

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Solitude Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:00pm

Me: ‘hey darl, I’m thinking of taking a year off to explore myself, the world and the possibilities of experimenting with various surf craft’

Read: ‘I’ve had a gut full of real world responsibilities and I feel like I could iron out my bog rail cutty if I got a new quiver and surfed from Noosa to Red Bluff next year.’

Wife: ‘sure, I’ll support that. Just let me think about the logisitics’

Read: ‘your choice pal, enjoy those fly ridden camp grounds because once you come back you’ll be like that lunatic ‘Trev’ down at the point who lives out of his station wagon explaining to all and sundry the virtues of living off the dole and mee goreng noodles because you don’t have to answer to anyone’

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memlasurf Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:56pm

Ha, and start believing in bizarre conspiracy theories as though they are real; think we have to tear down the whole system (how many times have we heard that since the year dot and it ended in tears); and believe everything Trump says is really true, 'cause it is, really.

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Island Bay Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 4:52pm

Non sequitur of the day :-)

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scott.kempton Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 2:19pm

JJ was sick of the circus and the girls have been over taken by new school girls that are amazing . Surely Steph just cruises around having a good old time she has nothing left to prove to anyone , a few wild cards in pumping rights . Good luck to both of em living the dream

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 3:07pm

Thanx Stu...was just about to share the updated 2025 CT Competitors...now being shredded...oopsie!
Can share that JJ (Red Type) was never there a few hours back...for sure...
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/athletes/tour/mct?year=2025

See Steph...no red type as yet...+ she just ran the 2025 Promos
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/steph-gilmore-filipe-toledo-return-to-co...

Now this...
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/stephanie-gilmore-extends-sabbatical-fro...
Still now no Red Type next to [16] Steph's name...nor any [18] Carissa
WSL must be insisting on the Apple Bookie watches...FU.
Getting like Rollerball with the numbers disappearing off the screen....Gulp!
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/athletes/tour/wct?year=2025

So no one finds it odd...
That 1/2/3/4/5 now 6 number ones just walked out on the 2024/25 WOTD Watch Scam.
Kelly did also say he fuckin' despised the WOTD watch & also wore any shit from early on..
That's a fuckin' telling pact as a matter of fact...how ya like them rotten apples!

#1 Tyler is still good for the Stone Tossing Event ain't she...
Poor Sally has her work cut out in rescuing surfing...that's a tougher job than Coaching Spurs...
Never said that...Strewth tbb the shit that comes outta yer mouth...how dare you insinuate that...#@%!

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 3:32pm

Also for what it's worth...these ward charts were hanging off JJ's / Steph's Beds...
They delayed sharing these Charts and the very second they did...{Kaboom}
Starting to think WSL never had permission to cut'n'paste both champs names...
Something big just went down & likely all parties are arguing over the same thing at same time!
Not sure what it is but likely the same reason # [18] Carissa / or replacement has been left off...

All these woke gromz have sold out but not our big names...they're not buying it...no way!
Starting to wonder just how ill Gabs is...huh! Coz we already know wot Ward his bed is on..

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Watt Tyler Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 6:42pm

Must be a bad forecast for the pipe contest

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lost Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 7:12pm

Surely they have both none for sometime they are not competing. This was no last min decision.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:42pm

There is evidence to this...JJ is one rare surfer that said NO to surfing the Palace Pool.
tbb is searching for any personal hang up with this deal...Coz He's surfed the Ranch Ok!
Kelly would have begged him & paid him & Carissa whatever to greenwash The Palace Pool.
JJ is taller & Carissa a larger frame would need more runs on the Pool as it's shallow...
Jack said he hit the concrete often & this surfer bottomed out (Snap!) in Comp...Dry wretch'd he reckons!
https://www.facebook.com/WSL/videos/wow-kai-broke-his-board-borrowed-one...
So by not seeing them here 'at all', means they were never doing CT 2 ... Agree!

Crew may know more about this...tbb is starting from scratch in this regard...
Do any of the crew feel this Arab Pool or Gaming Tour is a Deal Breaker..
Coz Gambling is Strictly illegal in Hawaii + Indo > Rio likewise has also not surfed the Palace Pool.
https://www.hawaii-aloha.com/blog/casinos-in-hawaii/#:~:text=Gambling%20...'re%20here.
Both Hawaiian #1s don't Surf Abu Dhabi & both are missing from 2025 Scratchies Cards.
Starting to wonder if they feel conflicted on Gambling ethics / laws about it...
Is tbb reading too much into this...Coz they're pretty big deals > massive sins for islanders.
These would be deal breakers for tbb...would definitely walk out on CT gaming tour...No blood money!

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tubeshooter Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 7:17pm

Fil must be rubbing his hands together, especially combined with the Pipe forecast.

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bbbird Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 8:20pm

So hopefully we can all watch some of the worlds best surf at amazing waves & WSL comps.... if the swell shines in their narrow windows.



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bbbird Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 8:52pm


"The world is your oyster..."

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Reform Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:31pm

Hey bbbird,
Filipe is not as healthy as Jack, check out their eyes, Filipe looks to be whacked on something maybe it's the sun and salt! very possible,

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bbbird Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 9:24pm

Too many oysters...?

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memlasurf Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 11:59am

From my eye Robbo should have one that by at least a point. It is not the number of turns it is the quality. Filipe always looks like he has something up his bum he needs to eject so wiggly.

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bbbird Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 9:29pm

He doesnt appear to have been affected by gastropoda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastropoda

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bbbird Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 9:44pm

Cracks opening down south

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memlasurf Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 9:44am

Maybe he could have succumbed to one of the Sphincterochila genus?

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 8:53pm

Trump's Border Relations Promo was already Sharpied & ready to go..
https://www.surfer.com/news/al-cleland-history-first-mexican-surfer-wsl-...

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jetson.rover Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 9:56pm

Steph is done.
If she does come back next year, the gulf between her and the new youngins like Caity Simmers and Erin Brooks will be embarrasing.
It already probably is.
Was hoping John would do Pipe and Chopes still this year but looks like he'll be completely missing all year now.
I'd like to see him have a crack at breaking out of that 3 world titles group he's in with Medina,Mick,Andy and Curren,and even going past MR for 5 and becoming the 2nd most winningest guy for world titles.
Not to mention his resume is still a bit emptyish with just 1 Pipe title and still no Chopes ones.
We all would have said he'd have 3 or 4 each by now if asked a decade ago i reckon.
I really hope Robbo pulls off a world title this year.
Oh and Slater in Pipe again?
Well there's 3 things certain in life and we all know what the first 2 are right lol.

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Alana_a Wednesday, 22 Jan 2025 at 10:55pm

Steph’s eyes should’ve lit up when she saw the pipe forecast

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Surfalot67 Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 8:33am

Is Flippy definitely coming back? I just can't see how he could...

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theolderIgetthe... Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 8:33am

Pro surfing - now officially broken...

And how many of us actually care?

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Vince Neil Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 1:06pm

all of us when an Aussie wins...

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Supafreak Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 9:04am

My top 3 pick for this year is Jack , EE & Italo , I would like it to be in that order but I believe Italo is the danger man this year, his hunger and commitment might get him over the line .

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belly Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 9:25am

I agree with Griff nipping at their heels. Looking pretty light on after that other than old Jordy. There's the Crosby injury as well.

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seabreeze Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 12:44pm

I am so relieved that despite her injury Stephanie will be fit enough to concentrate on global adventures. Graceful retirement involves a recognition and acknowledgment that the attention of the world moves on and that one is not thought about as often as they once were.

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crg Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 2:14pm

I think the official term is "The anti-Kelly method" of retiring.

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TheWhoSellOut Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 2:30pm

I am announcing that I will be taking a year off from watching the WSL Championship Tour.

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Island Bay Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 3:35pm

While I do like both Jack's and Ethan's surfing, I nailing my colours to Jordy's man turn mast. Hope the big Saffer takes it.

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Supafreak Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 4:15pm

Over the years I reckon Jordy has been underscored, particularly at pipeline .

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Watt Tyler Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 2:43am

Most under scored guy of the last ten years, pretty much everywhere.
He must have pissed someone off

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Vince Neil Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 1:05pm

no humans of above average stature are allowed to win the tour.

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jetson.rover Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 8:30pm

And Taj was the most underscored guy in the 10 years before that,and became the best surfer to never win the world title by the end of his career.
Looking like Jordy will challenge for that mantle too,but it'll stay with Taj for me.
He got closer to winning world titles than Jordy ever has,was a better competitor,and has won quite a few more events than Jordy has.

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Optimist Thursday, 23 Jan 2025 at 4:10pm

I wonder how Steph’s Malibu house went in the fires….hope it’s all good.

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ryder Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 8:26am

Not sure it's the same for men on tour, but for the women what does a 37 year old Steph Gilmore have in common with the 18-21 year old girls. Basically totally different generation that struggle with conversation for starters.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 25 Jan 2025 at 10:47am

Still 17 these girls are...it's illegal
To exploit a Child by wrapping them in XXXX Comp Shirts
Child or Adult To promote Grog on World Stage with or around Children
Illegal to even scratch'n'sniff grog on Beaches & Foreshores for deadly reason.
Child To compete in Live fixed interactive Gaming Tournaments
Child or Adults / Parents to gamble on these underage competitors

Caring parents don't touch blood money nor corrupt their child in blatant slave rorts.
Any decent human would boycott WSL Gromz TAB Pub Crawl...exempting us that is!
No nation or Town would back or host Child Exploitation Events apart from my town of course.
No carriage service would webcast mass scale exploitation of minors apart from all of them.

Ask how is the tour equal if a child can't even back themself or Celebrate with a Shoey?
Actually surprised any step forward to compete...tbb would refuse to sign until they make good.
Salute all Pros that drew a line in the sand...no offer is enough to wash this much shit off yer hands.
Is this the lowest level of Grom legacy you or yer God aspire too...coz it's pretty fuckin' shit...Hey!
All know it stinks more & worth less everyday...ya grow up, take a stroll & a sniff...Yeah Nah, See Ya!

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JB1 Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 2:50pm

FYI... John John is surfing the Pipe Pro... He's just taken a local wildcard for the event.

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udo Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 7:57pm

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Supafreak Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 9:19pm

Nice one udo , some deep pits amongst that lot .

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blackers Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 1:52pm

Read somewhere that John has been given a wildcard to the Pipe contest.

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freeride76 Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 1:55pm

He's in Blackers- awarded the local wildcard.

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zenagain Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 2:09pm

Yew!!

Kelly/JJF final.

That'd be sweet.

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dawnperiscope Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 2:28pm

That would be classic and maybe a hot chance with tricky back door conditions.

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freeride76 Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 2:41pm

Kelly won't make a heat in head high Backdoor.

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dawnperiscope Tuesday, 28 Jan 2025 at 7:38am

Yeah of course. Unless he is currently in the cryo chamber injecting youth serum and Italo needs a heat to adapt to his new muscle strategy

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 28 Jan 2025 at 12:02am

Request for Stu / freeride76 to please check CT 2 Intro...

Sharing current Surf Abu Dhabi Promo...seems to be locking in JJ on contractual terms...
Now! This may prove important...(Sharing all these Sites released JJ info / promo on 22nd Jan!)

22nd Jan Inertia released Surf Abu Dhabi Prices (Seemingly from Surf Abu Dhabi Main Page)
22nd swellnet feature...just saying that this Comp Site Promo can be dated back to same day...Ok!
22nd Jan this Surf Abu Dhabi intro is released...(Dependent upon Inertia getting same day memo in box!)
Says this...
* This Landmark Event will feature the (Current World #1)
* Celebrated as one of the Greatest Surfers of a Generation!

Guessing that's Starkie talking up Pipe is for the #@!*'n lowest ever winning scorers [ 3.83 ]

Also boasting 7 Olympic Medalists showcasing the Abu Dhabi Skyline
First Arab Pro Surfer to Reach CT...( Pretty sure that's the Syrian Dictator...called Kelly )

https://www.ticketmaster.ae/artist/surf-abu-dhabi-pro-tickets/1363513
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If it don't link...can Click [Get your Tickets] from Main Page to bring up same intro.
https://www.surfabudhabi.com/wsl-2025-ct

Anyhow...requesting if swellnet / crew know anything about this...coz ain't no one else onto it!
tbb thinks it's odd to include that unless JJ is the Star...in that case...watch this space!
Coz maybe JJ don't wanna be associated with 2025 Tour CT Stop 2 [Withdrawn Tag]
So! Wotz going on here then...Huh!
Coz it sure looks like WSL are making the current Champ compete in CT2 or Exhibit (Possibility!)

Firstly sharing ...coz crew may be in for a rude shock if JJ Jumps off Pool Party Jetski in a Clown Suit...
Just saying ya heard it hear first at swellnet...Ok!

There is an Interesting WSL Example of Part retired 'Above Featured Champ' in 2024 lifelike cameo.
Steph likewise competed as #1 Drawcard in 2024 WSL J-Bay Corona Classic (Specialty Event)
That was before SA got their Sports Book WSL Online CT Live Gaming approval stamp.
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/events/2024/spec/4726/j-bay-classic-pres...

Tip : 16 Dec 2025 Rule Book = Prefaces / changes on these Specialty / Heritage Events
Sounds nerdy but you'll need the 2024 Copy to compare the changes...Oh I see (Cough!)
That ain't no slip of the pen is it...Bang! Up front overrule! YES!
Similar yearly changes to WOTD Watches...each have higher Executive overrule...it's a WSL thang!

So...It reads that WSL can Brand Any event how they like within short notice...toss in a Hodad...Ouch!
Guessing that in the event of "Star Withdrawal" WSL still may obligate surfer under "Specialty / Heritage Event"
Basically WSL can dual / rebrand any CT Event to include Old < > Current in form Pro as they see fit!

So they may approve 11th hour Pro release but expect a Cameo of their choosing...WSL Pool Party!
Likewise invite a past winner or similar next highest placed regional Champ as a Wild Card...
Might wanna check out that Barbados Josh Burke as an 11th Hour Replacement...he lapped this pool!
Sounds crazy but that's the point to the obscurity of Open CT Combo Specialty / Heritage branding.
https://www.swellnet.com/news/form-guide/2024/08/16/abu-dhabi-chosen-cha...
Anyhow...if yer bored or desperate enough...
New Forward dated Rules do massage or skirt around this changed clause!
Pretty sure tbb just reviewed & enquired if crew knew of this exact Starpower 2025 change!
Coz only now it seems more relevant as if they saw this coming!
Read the Preface : 3rd Paragraph changes (Seems to grant executive overrule if / when needed)
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/asset/37878/2024+WSL+Rule+Book+Jan+1.pdf
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/asset/40005/2025+WSL+Rule+Book+clean+121...

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 29 Jan 2025 at 1:58pm

Read more here...about Why JJ Withdrew but now Competes as a Wild Card.
What changed huh?
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2024/10/11/2025-champion...
tbb was questioned about researching this very reason...but it is a thing...ya can't wish it away!
JJ (Hawaiian is banned from Online Gaming)
So Dad JJ naturally filed his boycott & withdrew from WSL Pipe Casino
But! Wait...WSL said please don't go JJ...You're worth more to us then them Mobsters! (Cough!)
WSL scratched JJ heats from #6 Pipe Roulette Wheel

Ok! Y'all Wanna see that again...just to prove tbb is not fucking you over!
tbb is FURIOSO mad about WSL God Squad underage Slave Gurl fixing of Fiji XXXX Casino
Did they listen? Huh! Will WSL come clean...Have they a guilty conscience...is that a joke tbb?
WSL scratched Erin from Pipe #6 Roulette Wheel
Crew are free to check how tbb's concerns actually played out in real time...
Thanks to those that backed tbb on flipping the WSL gaming table...this is a very real crisis!
https://nxtbets.com/best-bets-2025-wsl-lexus-pipe-pro-pre-event-odds-ana...

Ok! Are we all on the same page now! All say Aye!
Recapping : WSL are not bigger than a Baby Jesus Pipe Master Xmas Beatle!