Surfer Taken By Shark In South Australia

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Swellnet Dispatch

A search is continuing this morning after reports a 28-year old surfer from Port Lincoln was taken by a shark off the Eyre Peninsula.

Emergency services were called to Granites, south-west of Streaky Bay, just after 7pm following reports of a surfer being taken by a shark. South Australian Police and State Emergency Services immediately began searching the water in the fading light.

Granites

At approximtaely midday yesterday, Streaky Bay surfer and fisher Jeff Schmucker posted a warning on Instagram:

"Heads up to all surfers at Granites today.

"There is a large aggressive Great White very close to Granites/Indicators."

The informal warning apparently had little effect on holiday crowds with many surfers remaining in the water at Granites.

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thermalben Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:10am

Tragic news. RIP mate.

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andy-mac Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:14am

Horrible... condolences to his family.

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Island Bay Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:26am

Saw that post from Jeff and thought please no. Deepest condolences

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Tim Bonython Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:32am

Yeah, I saw Jeff's post earlier and now this. So tragic.

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basesix Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:32am

just no good. RIP, young man.

Thoughts with his loved ones.
A well as those of Tod, Khai,
and those living with the ridiculous loss
of champions who loved surfing in SA waters.

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WaffleStomp Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:38am

Condolences to family and local crew, the whole coast is rocked.

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12345678 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:43am

Sad news, been a ruff run for the west coast the past year or so. RIP way to young

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zenagain Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 9:17am

RIP mate.

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Craig Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 9:46am

Devastating. And following the recent attacks it will really rattle the community. Sending out love to the friends, family and those who witnessed and also helped along with the greater South Oz surfing community. It's quite small and tight knit.

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greg-n.williams Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 9:53am

Sad news, R.I.P. & condolences to his family & close friends.

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Richard Cheese Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 9:56am

Appalling way to die it is... godspeed young man.

Strange how Victoria hasn't had a fatal attack since 1956'. Maybe something is attracting them to South Australian waters? Mmm..

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haggis Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 9:58am

like what?

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Island Bay Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 10:21am

Just heard lots of sirens here in Lennox, right as I read this again. Hopefully just a cat up a tree.

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Surfalot67 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 6:55pm

They're around. My grom got out of the water at Dbah last night after a 3-4m Noah cruised through the pack

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simba Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 10:27am

R.I.P mate

Its possible its the same shark as the last attack or even other attacks in this area .

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Chris T Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 10:56am

We roll the dice in SA in that area especially , such bad luck, awful , surfed it just after the last fatal, spooked surfers everywhere, then a few weeks before this attack, 2 seals one big, hanging around the boil, dolphins and fish everywhere, big salmon still around, saw one at cunns before coming to granites, 4 out, we all went straight in after the seals came in, , really feel for the family and community, how do you recover from this one..

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wayne bollen Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 11:01am

Shooking news so sad RIP, my condolences to family and friends.

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Optimist Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 11:06am

Sad news…again…I’m sure life was better when a pro fisherman had the legal right to put a bullet in a dangerous aggressive looking shark….rather than just trying somehow to warn everyone.
The pros can tell a bad one when they see it…..I’m into marine protection but not to that level.

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basesix Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 11:24am

well put.

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Crustie Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 3:20pm

100% human life over sharks

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Surfalot67 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 6:56pm

I've always been anti cull, but I have to agree with you on this mate

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DAW Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 1:13pm

stereo typical response from a god botherer!! Just kill it !!

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Bob Hawke Surf Team Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 1:00pm

Maybe you could put a bullet into any horses, cows, dogs or kangaroos that look a bit uppity while you’re at it. They kill way more humans than any sharks… and thank fuck we don’t have any hippos.

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nipper77 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 11:51am

We know the risks here in SA as a surfer, but enough is enough. They are not endangered!! Condolences to everyone involved. RIP

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spencie Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 12:24pm

I remember surfing it 40 years ago at daybreak by myself. Really good waves, but I was so thankful when the local guys came out to join me. Spooky spot to surf alone. Could never stomach surfing alone at Blackfellows, even though it was good.

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Bob Hawke Surf Team Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 12:55pm

Blacks is spooky. Especially when your leggy snaps and you have to swim in through that black water between the break and the beach to retrieve your board.

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Halfscousehalfc... Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 1:07pm

Terrible news, Condolences to the family

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Grant Robilliard Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 1:16pm

Tragic news , just horrible.

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Solitude Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 2:58pm

Really sorry to hear. My thoughts go out to his family and all of the Streaky / West Coast community. Also his people on the Tweed Coast where I believe he currently lived.

That’s 4 fatal in 18 months in SA.

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Bob Hawke Surf Team Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 3:11pm

He was from Streaky and just moved to Lincoln recently

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tubeshooter Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 3:23pm

Sad news.
There's something about stories like this that feel like a real gut punch when you hear it. So heavy.
Thoughts with family and friends.

I wonder what Jeff observed in the sharks behaviour before he posted his warning.

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goofyfoot Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 3:43pm

That’s freaky he posted that just hours before the attack.

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Johno210 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 3:47pm

Shark reporting in SA
Ring 131444, SA Police Emergency.
Posting messages on socials doesn't close beaches nor does it get to everyone that knows.
RIP mate

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Richard Cheese Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 4:22pm

There's been so many over the last couple of decades its almost become normalised now, shark attacks dramatically increased after the 1992' Rio UN Earth Summit. Before 1992' it was pretty rare. Michael Docherty was the first slaughtered by the Great White shark after that Rio moment in 92'. I read an account years ago of his death that was hard to forget. Tore him to shreds and dragged his remains around the lineup by his legrope. Sorry but its a grim reality. Maybe Humans are regarded as a liability since then. An acceptable loss.

Maybe the desk jockey 'con$ervationists' can have another 'shark summit' and talk about it some more, maybe eat some cake and celebrate their many 'achievements' this last few decades.

The 3 minute mark here below is quite interesting regarding shark advocacy' value on us Humans. CONservationists that don't even use the ocean.

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Johno210 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 5:20pm

Streaky Bay hospital holds 2 units of type 0 blood - 900ml.
The average human holds around 5.5l.
Your chances of survival with any major blood loss at a remote spot like granites is low. And that assumes there is a doctor available!

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stunet Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:20am

The Rio Earth Summit addressed all shark species - 530 of them, many of which were on the brink of extinction due to shark finning and over-fishing - not just the 3 species known to attack humans. The summit laid groundwork for policies that would help developing nations without the means to regulate or police their waters. On the balance it's been a great success; many achievements and maybe another one is due.

Not sure why you're linking Michael Docherty's death with the Rio Summit. It happened just four months later so there was zero change in place, and in fact nothing did change in Australia till seven years after Rio.

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Barney66 Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 11:16am

Very well put Stu. As hard as it may be to swallow, sharks place is in the ocean. They're a valuable part of the ecosystem . I definitely would be terrified if I had an encounter & the thought of anyone being bitten/ taken is abhorrent but at the end of the day it's their domain, not ours

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Alex Papas Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 11:11am

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SA Wetdog Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 4:54pm

RIP felt so sad when I heard last night. Drove past the day beforehand coming from further afield, water felt really warm.

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eeeee Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 6:33pm

Holy...opinions aside, that is one terribly written article. Is that ChatGPT?

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AndyM Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:25pm

Pawle comes across terribly, like an undergrad student who's been asked to write a polemic purely for the purpose of outrage.
And the fella hasn't even had a cursory glance at a map.

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Arnold Horshack Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 6:32pm

Don't want to sound like I'm making a flippant comment, but I can't help but wonder how big this shark was to have nothing (at this stage) left to find.
If indeed it was that big, I can honestly hope that it was very quick.
Sincere condolences.

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freeride76 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:15pm

3rd attack where they have not been able to recover a body- which adds distress to the family to the attack.

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basesix Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 8:32pm

the certitude in Lance's situation the same as Tod Gendle's.. same big female schmucks wasn't allowed to exit just over a year ago..?

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wax24 Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 7:56pm

I am so very sorry to read this. As has been said, hits like a gut punch, even all the way across the world, here. Condolences and love to whole community.

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smokeydogg Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 10:36pm

So sad to hear RIP, Even in West OZ they don't "seem" to eat the entire casualty like what's become the norm in SA.
One big rouge resident shark ?
Had planned my first SA camp/surf trip for this Autumn, hope there's enough crew around to avoid chickening out on perfect solo sessions .

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udo Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 11:08pm

- Even in West OZ they don't "seem" to eat the entire casualty like what's become the norm in SA-
Around 70 % W.A. Attacks have been Fully Consumed

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paddlepoplion Friday, 3 Jan 2025 at 11:12pm

people can argue all they like about culling but time and time again the victims families do not advocate for it

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hamishbro Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 1:43am

It’s well known that prior to the current shark obsession by conversationists to fight the “primitive” “jaws” view of whites, and the related dissemination of the fake perception that whites are endangered, that surfers were much safer in SA. That’s because shark fishing was the popular sport, rather than cage diving. The reality is and it has been well documented that the cage diving industry has encouraged aggressive shark behaviour and the associated lack of predatory behaviour by us humans has seen the risk to surfers spiral out of control.
As a well known senior policeman quietly said to me once during a nasty spate of attacks, Sharks are just big fish. There’s nothing wrong with fishing them.

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Richard Cheese Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:18am

Its simply called FISHING. The words 'culling' and 'killing' invoke a feminine emotional and hysterical response instead of a common sense logical response. We see that elsewhere in this forum. Its a mildy clever method of hiding the truth with Logical Fallacies and such. Its infantile and pathetic. Ambiguity is the fortress of heretics.

Colin Ostle former Fisheries Officer stated in The West Australian 'newspaper' in 2015: "The Great White should never have been afforded protection" so Lance Appleby and many many more should still be here. Enjoying their new year, getting ready for work.. or school as Khai Cowley would be. Too late now.

The 'results' of shark 'conservation' this last few decades are there for all to see now. No hiding it. Their 'achievements' are dead kids.

https://hakaimagazine.com/news/nine-out-ten-shark-scientists-agree-susta...

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stunet Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:41am

Mate, stop exploiting sadness and death.

People were killed by sharks before governments intervened - when the shark population was ostensibly 'in balance' - and as long as Whites, Tigers, and Bulls exist on the Earth, people will unfortunately be taken by them.

Saying certain people "would still be here" is manipulative and emotive. Some might, others wouldn't.

A frank talk about culling is timely but spare us the juvenile idiocy.

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Richard Cheese Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:54am

Just the truth snowflake ifu don't like it move on.

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stunet Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:57am

The only truth is that you're posting opinion, Dick Cheese.

P'raps you don't understand the difference?

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Richard Cheese Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 8:03am

I stand by the comments.. they should still be here. Its self-evident. The GW was not endangered this has been established by many over the years. They should still be here. Its quite simple.

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dandandan Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:46pm

Don't you think you're projecting by suggesting these specific attacks wouldn't have occurred if there was an open season on whites? You have no way of knowing that at all, and Stu is right to point it out as exploitative. In any case, the GWS isn't listed as endangered. It's listed as vulnerable to extinction.

P.S "feminine emotional and hysterical response instead of a common sense logical response"... ?? Could you please pull yourself together. This is embarrassing stuff in 2025. Grow up.

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Tooold2bakook Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 8:42pm

Well said dandandan

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belly Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 8:11am

Like / agreed.

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Shaun Hanson Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:25am

Imagine the outcry if you threw meat on a rope at a pack of dingoes or burleighed them up with some roo mince on the beach so some paying tourists can take some photos ..Youd be publicly raped by the media then stoned to death by 10000 do gooders . But its alright with sharks ..?

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Richard Cheese Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:50am

I read an article from the upper west coast of the USA a few years ago and the 'journalist' stated this: "While eating lunch at the back of the boat I kept a watchful eye on the surfboard we pulling behind the boat. Chumming for Great Whites with blood or fish parts is illegal in California, so the Golden Gate Expeditions crew troll for Great Whites with a surfboard, which, according to theory, the sharks mistake for seals" The picture that accompanied the article is of that same 'journalist' with 2 halves of a nice tri-fin shattered with many big attack marks. I could post that image here but I am not sure how to upload images... can someone explain how to upload images please.

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gggiiibbbo Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 8:03am

The assertions of Mr Cheese & Fred Pawle that removing protections for GWS means that specific deaths would have been avoided are absolute rubbish. No-one can possibly know if removing a few big sharks in one area would have stopped those particular attacks. Sharks travel vast distances to hunt, patrol territory & mate. Not to be flippant, but I haven’t seen any sharks walking around on land. All ocean users understand the real danger associated with entering an apex predator’s environment - presumably including all who have tragically perished. If you can’t accept the (infinitesimal) risk that you may die while surfing in the jaws of a shark, best to stay on Terra Firma.

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DCSoundAttack Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 9:10am

Well said.

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Smorto Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 10:01am

The old "if you don't accept the risk stay on land" line. That's not a particularly insightful or intelligent statement because every time one of us enters the water we accept the risk, otherwise we would never surf. The question is whether a species that appears to be thriving and is responsible for many deaths deserves protected status?

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Richard Cheese Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 10:32am

Well said.

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gggiiibbbo Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 1:55pm

Smorto, thanks for that kind assessment of my intelligence. The point is there is only one way to totally remove the risk of shark attack when surfing - don’t surf or surf exclusively in a wave pool. I’m no uber-greenie, but I do have a problem with the overly-simplistic anthropo-centric angle presented by Cheesy & Pawle. “Shark kills humans, so humans kill sharks - problem solved”. What about the shark’s food chain & their place in it? Knock-on effects of removing large numbers of them from their environment? I believe a human life is worth more than a shark’s but how many sharks do you kill, where & over what time-frame? How much does the risk of attack or death diminish based on a cull? How can anyone possibly know? Who is going to lobby the Government to change the current legislation? You? Control is the real issue here - humans like Fred Pawle want to feel like they are in control of the ocean & whatever lives in it so they can feel safer when surfing. You & I have a better chance of getting spat out of an 8ft Pipe barrel than mankind does of controlling the sea & the wild animals that live in it.

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Wavester63 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 3:09pm

On the subject of risk around 1,200 people are killed each year on Australia's roads and about 40,000 are seriously injured. I don't really have anything to say about that other than it's curious how we all get in our cars and drive off into the sunset.

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Smorto Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 6:33pm

The old road deaths comparison, yep we take that risk driving but our government spends billions on road safety. If there was a faulty car design that killed as many people a year as shark attacks there would be an enquiry and the design would be banned.

Yet we can't consider possibly allowing for a small number of fish to be killed?

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Wavester63 Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 8:54am

If the shark can be identified then I think they should be allowed to kill it especially to retrieve the victim of an attack for the family's closure. I guess the issue with that is how to identify the shark and how many is enough.
Having lost someone to car accident and being seriously injured myself I just think it's a riskier activity. I still drive. I still surf.

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Watt Tyler Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 7:19pm

Possibly , a primitive deep rooted fear of being eaten?

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Supafreak Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 9:11am
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NDC Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 9:49am

Awful. Sincere condolences to all who knew or loved Lance.

I surfed the spot once and felt very fortunate to have done so. One of the very rare occaisions in my surfing life I was very grateful for the company of another surfer when they joined me.

Look after each other out there everyone

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Swany Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 9:54am

Rest in peace. So heavy.

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southernraw Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 10:00am

Full condolensces to the family. Very sad.
Did i hear that the Pointer was getting stuck into the craypots in the very near vicinity prior to the attack?
I'm guessing pots are laid along this stretch of coast on the calmer sea surface days when they can get in closer to the reefs. (days when surf is generally good)?
Is there also any truth to the fact one of the boats that was present at the attack site was also present at the previous fatality at the same break?
Maybe a coincidence.
And agree with above. Posting on social media is ineffective.
This should have been alerted to the authorities if it was acting so aggressively.
Not pointing the finger. Just looking at ways to avoid in future.

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freeride76 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 11:18am

It would seem a good location to set some smart drum lines- at a minimum.

Provide a good living for a local contractor, give real time data on white shark populations/seasonal movements and potentially offer a deterrent effect.

I know it's not a foolproof method of reducing risk- nothing is.
But it seems better than all the alternatives, at present.

Not the time to discuss it now, all thoughts for the family and friends.

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Johno210 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 12:35pm

Hi mate, they tried drumlines in WA when Colin Barnett was Prem but they caught ever other species other than whites, so they flagged it.
Sth Aust needs to create a WA model phone app like 'sharksmart'
And use the ABC to broadcast warning like they do with bushfires.

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jasper99 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 12:14pm

Rest in Peace.....

It's always so awful every time this happens and it's unfortunately happening a little too consistently of late. As a community we always try to come up with solutions to this problem which is great and it is needed for sure.

I do wonder if over fishing is a reason for more shark activity/encounters with humans? Surely if we are taking away a seals main food source (fish) then that would mean less seal numbers which in turn would reduce a reliable food source for GW's (outside of whale migration seasons) meaning they are more likely to look closer at other food sources?

I do agree with the shark cage theory too and the analogy of the dingoes is perfect.....

My sincere condolences to everyone affected in particular to the family and friends of Lance.

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mattlock Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 6:11pm

There is heaps more seals around the Southern Ocean coastline now than 30 years ago.
More seals means more whites.
Heaps more people surfing.
More encounters.

RIP brother.

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Ash Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 1:01pm

Yep condolences and empathy to family and friends. RIp mate.

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A Salty Dog Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 1:16pm

My condolences to Lances family and friends. A sad day for all concerned.

RIP.

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poobumwee Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 2:26pm

There is a lot of theories going around but the reality is we just don't know enough about these animals and their behaviours a lot of resarch needs to be done on what triggers these interactions and possible preventive measurements, There is always going to be risk but at the moment it seems the risk is elevated particulary along that coast but Ive always thought that when surfing those waters, definately warrants more research in this area. RIP Lance

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Ray Shirlaw Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 3:24pm

Research? There are heaps of them around now,they get hungry&they bite

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hamishbro Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 2:54pm

Australia’s most successful, intentional shark control program has been carried out in Queensland since I believe 1964 and given the huge numbers of aggressive bull sharks, as well as a decent number of tiger and white sharks in southeast Queensland waters it is amazing there have not been more ocean fatalities, on the Gold Coast in particular. You can put that down to the success of that program which makes no bones about what it does. The drum lines are particularly effective.
Yes there has been tragic estuarine shark fatalities but those no longer now the behaviour and habits of bull sharks in such zones is common knowledge and swimmers avoid those areas. But there have been zero fatalities, I believe, except for Nick Slater (RIP). Obviously this incident happened right on the border of a state (NSW) which has a much more benign (albeit improved since 2015) shark program, so you would speculate the shark was likely moving north and had missed the nearest drum line and net. Also compare northern rivers shark fatalities and attacks since 2014 with Queensland to illustrate the point in regions with a near identical climate.
Without that program, Queensland’s tourism industry would not be what it is today.
Yes there has been in recent years a spate of attacks in tropical Queensland, I’d argue the dispersed islands where many of these occurred are harder to a manage a reliable control program. It’s also the case that the huge coastlines of SA and WA make it somewhat impractical or unreliable to do so.
But as a minimum, as FR says, a smart drum line off known or iconic surfing breaks would be a wise investment by the state.
The fact is, surfers are the primary targets of shark attacks in Australia.
I’m all up for being eco conscious and “manning up” but there is no way any parent wants to see their kid ripped in pieces in front of them.
I’m sick of people saying “it’s your choice to take the risk”. It’s not quite like that. We’re surfers, and it is a leisure/therapy lifestyle activity, you don’t just drop it, and we are the primary targets. Don’t people want to have some kind of balanced approach to this? Would you really prefer a shark lives and your son/daughter dies (both have happened)?
People obsess about sharks but they don’t seem to care about all the flora and fauna which is invisible, unseen, which could be just as important (probably more) for the eco system.
I’d like to see the evidence that white sharks in particular are some kind of essential apex predator for the health of the oceans. It’s not like if they disappear we suddenly are at risk of a “plague of seals”.
I’m not saying we kill them all. But I am saying I value human life over a sharks and popular or iconic surfing zones, where practical, should be areas where some kind of active shark management practices are permitted.
It’s a no brainer that we should be trying to limit the number of these tragedies but that doesn’t seem to be the prevailing response to this awful incident.

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Wavester63 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 2:59pm

I live in SA and have surfed for over 45 years at many breaks in Oz and abroad. Been West quite a few times over those years but to be honest with myself I never really felt comfortable in the water there or West Oz because of the shark rep. When the waves were on you forget about it but those lulls sometimes.... These days with the packed lineups (and age) I think I'm done with over there. Although great memories and adventures. RIP.

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freeride76 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 3:30pm

1962 for the QLD Shark Control program.
1937 for the NSW Shark Meshing Program, now called the Shark Management Program.

Both of these are "culling" programs. That is, they work by fishing and reducing the number of sharks in the vicinity of the nets and drum lines.

I don't believe their effectiveness can be argued against by anyone who looks at the data objectively.

The problem is lethal effects apply to non-target species (bycatch).
As well, of course, to the sharks themselves.

Smart Drum lines have practically zero lethal bycatch and very low mortality for the sharks themselves.

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hamishbro Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:01pm

Thanks for clarifying those dates Steve, yes indeed the NSW program based mainly around Sydney I think until after the Byron/Ballina attacks post 2014 has been effective too.
As you say - nets are less effective against sharks but cause far more bycatch, I would argue that drum lines are the best solution, with a smart drum lines bringing another level of environmental responsibility.

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Johno210 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:42pm

WA Gov gave up after 2 yrs using smart drumlines, caught 2 whites in 2 yrs, deemed non effective.

"Of the 311 captures over two years, only two white sharks were caught, along with 266 other types of sharks, and 43 other "non-target" marine animals"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-12/shark-drumlines-trial-report-rele...

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freeride76 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:47pm

Yeah, I saw that.

Here is the actual report from WA Fisheries on the trial.

They actually caught sharks using targeted tagging during that time frame- maybe that is a better solution for West coast SA.

https://www.fish.wa.gov.au/Documents/occasional_publications/fop140.pdf

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Johno210 Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 11:25am

I had a look at that attached link freeride, more questions than answers.

WA used the same type of SMART drumline methodology as NSW and NSW had success in capturing whites but no cigar in WA?

Report suggests the 10km location of the drumlines Leeuwin-Naturaliste was perhaps not a natural feeding ground but there acoustic sounding buoys show numerous tagged whites pinging the area?

WA has 300+ acoustic sounding buoys from Ningaloo to Esperance.
SA by comparison is non-existent, once u got past Neptune Island 40 nautical mile Sth of Pt Lincoln that's it no more listening posts I'm told?

SA Gov west of Adelaide handball shark management to SAPOL who then expect SES to go and drop everything and shut down beaches which never happens till a fatality occurs.

It's a broken system, SA needs a Shark watch app, educate public, use ABC radio emergency service broadcasting like they do with bushfires & build acoustic receiver buoys around remote area beaches where surfers & swimmers frequent.

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Island Bay Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 3:34pm

What is the typical bycatch - species and numbers?

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freeride76 Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 3:37pm

It varies between states, areas and methods used.

Drumlines have very low bycatch compared to nets, which have high bycatch.

Basically, anything that swims into the net gets tangled up and dies- sharks, rays, turtles, dolphins etc etc.

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goofyfoot Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:26pm

What’s the point of these links Rich?

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Benny boo Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 3:48pm

More humans have died by the hand of humans . It’s the risk we take. Rip

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southernraw Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 4:28pm

There was a study done in West Oz a few years ago to try to calculate the Western Pointer population which also incorporates the ones that head to SA in summer. (distinct populations separate to each other on East and West Coast, separated by Bass Straight).
They ran a heap of calculations based on empirical fishing bycatch from as far back as 1939 combined with current known data. Obviously plenty of flaws could be found but after running numerous hundreds of data set possibilities based on the above calculations, the eventual conclusion was that Pointer numbers are increasing between 2 and 6 percent per year.
Make of that what you will. Significant? Maybe, when combined with an ever growing human population using the water.
I'd post the link to the study here but it's locked behind academic walls unfortunately. Not sure why this stuff isn't put out into the public.
Also, i noted someone above, maybe @simba posed the question about it being a repeat offender, and i for one certainly subscribe to a similar theory. Thinking about the clusters of attacks over the past couple of decades....Ballina, Margs, Perth Esperance and now Streaky, it's hard not to draw conclusions that there may be one particularly aggressive pointer at each of those locations that has identified it as a place for repeated visitations.
This one really hit home. Such a heavy heart for the friends and family of Lance out there on the West coast.
Btw for anyone with access through an institution, this is the link.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304380017303447

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southernraw Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 4:33pm

I've managed to download a pdf of the study so i'll send it through to Stu and if anyone wants a copy he'll be able to send it through.

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hamishbro Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 4:57pm

Yes please, thanks.

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southernraw Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:15pm

Ahh shit i probably put Stu in the hot seat.
You might have to email him and hit him up for it @hamishbro.
Cheers

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dandandan Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:55pm

It's on SciHub, you just need to one of those "I am a human" verification things to access it:

https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.ecolmodel.2017.07.024

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southernraw Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 6:27pm

Cheers @dandandan

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 5:16pm

Condolences to Lance's family, friends and the West Coast SA community, I am so sorry to hear this news.

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scott.kempton Saturday, 4 Jan 2025 at 11:21pm

RIP that’s tragic and a horror way to go.
As for not far from extinction if an apex predator has been a protected species for donkeys years that BS there in declining numbers . The shark tours burlying up and cage diving couldn’t be good if sharks are looking for boats and get accustomed to it . I take my hat off to surfers down SA trying to block out white sharks to go for a paddle

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soz_punter Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 8:36am

I think the article below makes a salient point - if sharks were deliberately targeting surfers we'd be stuffed.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/04/as-police-search-for...

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udo Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 11:15am

Out of Respect how about you Post this Digestion stuff Elsewhere on Site

What happened to Fanning...
A Shark Snapped his Legrope.

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southernraw Sunday, 5 Jan 2025 at 12:22pm

Thanks Udo.
Well said.
There's another forum for this and i think many would appreciate this kind of conversation moved to there out of respect to those affected.