Loose lips sink ships
Personally if i see a spot pop up on WOTD that id rather not see there, or if someone mentions a spot id rather not be mentioned in conversation here in a thread.
You know what i do?
I say absolutely nothing and hope it passes, or turn the conversation to something else.
The worst thing you can do is complain that your low key spot appeared in WOTD or that someone mentioned the spot you wished they hadn't, whinging about things only brings much more focus to the spot and generally ensures the conversation about that spot continues and then that conversation often goes onto talking about other waves in an area and little tit bits of information are given out that aren't as easy to come by or the info found elsewhere might be outdated (like access)
Yeah sure heaps of these waves are widely known spots and there is books and websites with info on them and conditions, but waves and areas also come in and out of favour, and fall off the radar, talking about an area or spot, can trigger others into thinking, oh yeah fuck i should do a trip there again.
Then they do a trip, post pics on their instagram page and all their mates are like, fuck he scored next swell or next year im going too.
Also locals or regular traveler's all have different views and takes, so its silly to say its fine because, this local says so, probably some local that gets set waves no matter if there is 10 or 50 people out.
IMHO it's all more about respect for a place and locals or even regular visitors.
As surfers its natural to be stoked and to want to share that stoke, but its also easy to do it while being vague or respectful, instead of naming the spot or area just say " up the coast" "down the coast" or "west" or "east" instead of the spots name "surfed this right" or "surfed this fun wave"
Of course even then the problem still is others want to show they know where you went so throw out little clues, wanting confirmation, all because they just want others to see they are in the know and have also surfed there
This whole thing is even worse on social media with photos, and people commenting.
Been getting great waves the last few days…nice east swell and would like to share the location as “ the southern hemisphere”….see you out there….even Guy the lying muppet is welcome, ( Jesus can forgive him so I suppose I should ) especially seeing as he likes riding boards made by happy clapping born again Christians.
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- you are always after fool’s gold
Here you are again as the high priest
… lucky noinfo is your rwnj golden boy haha
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Horse has bolted long ago numbnuts , just google it
Thick lips break hips. Proceed with caution comrades.
I’ve heard whispers there’s a secret wave about an hours drive North of Noosa along the beach.
A solution is to give the spots your own names. Every place I've lived, there's been a 'Johnno's'. Once it was a closeout section of beachy. Now it's a little reef.
Where'd you go?
I was at Johnno's, it was sick.
Yep, internet has left few 'secret' spots unmolested.
The biggest problem these days is the dickheads in the carpark on the Al Capone giving all and sundry a heads up.
I see it a lot, I hear it a lot and it shits me to tears.
Tell your mates what it was like after the swell or sandbank or whatever has finished if you have to.
We have a wave called Johnnies VJ. Must be a relative of yours?
I think it’s called that after all the used dingers on the beach there.
…hence all the loose lips
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ha, nice @jelly.. if only BDP's franger song was 'jonny hats', for the tunes thread.
…this almost qualifies ;)
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&pp=ygUbZGV0YWNoYWJsZSBwZW5pIHNvbmcgbHlyaWNz GuySmiley wrote:Horse has bolted long ago numbnuts , just google it
Obviously the threads not just about where i live, and also about traveling elsewhere like AW is at the moment.
But yes that is correct there is only five spots on the Island and no other waves between here and the prom.
tubeshooter wrote:Yep, internet has left few 'secret' spots unmolested.
The biggest problem these days is the dickheads in the carpark on the Al Capone giving all and sundry a heads up.
I see it a lot, I hear it a lot and it shits me to tears.
Tell your mates what it was like after the swell or sandbank or whatever has finished if you have to.
Yeah dont you hate that, your checking the surf it looks fun only a few out and theres a guy on his phone next to you giving a report on the waves and banks etc to his mates.
There's very few particular waves that I surf regularly that I'd call secret spots, but there's a couple of quiet zones that I feel very protective of. At the moment there's a couple of young photographers who are trying to make a name for themselves and it's pretty mind numbing watching it play out the same way it always does. Photos of empty waves with a captioning heavily spruiking the emptiness of the lineup, with about 15-20 different big accounts tagged in an attempt to get reposted to huge audiences. Whenever it happens, the comments will be filled with mainland surfers tagging mates, talking about trips, even talking about buying land etc. etc. I'm not expecting it to change dramatically based on a couple of photos, but it's dumb to think that kind of exposure doesn't contribute. Especially true in the age of Instagram and AirBnB.
There is a spot on the MP , Hay ..
Whoever I go there , 2 guys are always out , rain hail or shine .
Mostly, its ok , I have seen it bloody Classic ( Left 2 ) as sand dependent like most places .
One has a green board and the other a strange paddling style .
The think they own the place and hate it , when I turn up .
Infrequent visitor who will chat to everyone and take my waves .
Have told me off and I smile and say Get F .
I don't ell them my mates found the Road and the spots and I surfed it 49 years ago , for the first time .
These guys would get thousands of waves every year .
They get pissed , if I want , just 6 . F Me !
I love it when new people surf and will help with suggestions whenever I can .
I know NO fn secret spots !
A short term bank should be kept quiet , only .
No ONE rules the waves .
I am with AW , firmly !
If someone tells me 2 keep a secret , I always do .
NFI what the bank at Hayfield is like atm .
Skunk mission yesty. Drive away from good waves with my mates to go further down the coast, got charged by bulls lost a pair of a sunnies and rolled my ankle in the process, went down the other track came back up the big hill 20 min later Caus the banks were shit and no one around at all all by myself and got my car waxed. Had a great night tho! Litterally blindfolded my mates before when I’ve taken them to this zone and if you could ever guess where I go because I never give any clues away good luck. But seriously fuck you I did not deserve this.
Pop, back on swellnet and straight in to naming quieter, out of the way spots down here again. Absolute clown.
velocityjohnno wrote:A solution is to give the spots your own names. Every place I've lived, there's been a 'Johnno's'. Once it was a closeout section of beachy. Now it's a little reef.
Where'd you go?
was at Johnno's, it was sick.
We used to have a fantasy wave we called Boomerangs. IT peeled 320 degrees around a small Island so you didn't have to paddle back out.
Whenever we were asked where we surfed we used to tell crew....Boomerangs.
We even used to tell surf shop assistants as they were too cool to let on they didn't know where it was.
Used to get followed.
Still a great in joke between all my mates after 45 years of its existence.
Surprisingly enough pretty much found it in Indo but only 270 degrees LOL.
"Not going to show you the secret wave - insideouts triViperpedes"
goofyfoot wrote:Pop, back on swellnet and straight in to naming quieter, out of the way spots down here again. Absolute clown.
Goofy, every surfable wave between Somers and The Rip had been sussed out by 1964.
A Salty Dog wrote:goofyfoot wrote:Pop, back on swellnet and straight in to naming quieter, out of the way spots down here again. Absolute clown.
Goofy, every surfable wave between Somers and The Rip had been sussed out by 1964.
Yep, and?
goofyfoot wrote:A Salty Dog wrote:goofyfoot wrote:Pop, back on swellnet and straight in to naming quieter, out of the way spots down here again. Absolute clown.
You’re bringing more attention to your spots by doing this sorta shit. It’s not gonna stop a respectful surfer from going to these sorta places, now it creates a narrative around the whole spot. Too bad far east Gippsland is too far away for everyone though.
Goofy, every surfable wave between Somers and The Rip had been sussed out by 1964.
Yep, and?
My two cents seeing as I was part of the discussion that triggered @Indo into starting this (good) topic. (had some fun trying to trigger @Indo in the past, this time for a good reason for a change)
Surfed a lot of places as a "visitor", Aust. and elsewhere. Had my run ins but probably had many more at home at very 'public' waves with dickheads I know and have to surf with often, though certain individuals these days prompt me to just paddle in or wait them out because they are vibe killers and fkn hogs and every go out with them involved is the same. Sometimes there's a group of us watching on, or sitting in the water all doing the same thing, bitching about the pricks. If it's good enough I will just go fuck it and deal with it, but they can cast a shadow, which is their motivation probably.
I mostly like to hunt alone, even at home, be respectful, sit wide to start, wait my turn and when it comes, go. Start a chat if I can, tell the hungry one's or the top dogs not to worry about me if they want to go, just go, I'm just cruising. Works a charm mostly. The super crowded line ups aren't really my go anymore, can't deal with wearing a helmet and you can get fkn killed out in them even exercising full caution.
The 'phone my friends' guys and Insta 'dear diary, this is....." are just what the surfing world is these days. The spirit of adventure and discovery still lives strong for those with the will, time and budget, thankfully, and secrets are still kept amongst the lucky few. But even many of those out of the way areas are so well known and documented that it seems a bit pointless having a whinge now .to me, but I can understand it for sure. Like that "c" word.
My first trip north from Vicco, when I first got my licence, all we had as reference was a road map and names/photos etc gleaned from magazines. Photos taken looking out, no directions, no idea what roads or tracks to take. Turned up in Yamba on a big SE, onshore one day, drove to Angas and we were so out of it we got to Spookys car park and thought that was it, didn't go round the corner. I stood there looking at it going "Well this is shit". (Found it and got it on the tail of a cyclone swell on the way back though.) Drove up to Byron, pulled up at main beach closing out and my mate goes "What's that up there?" So we "discovered" the Pass that day, I'd never even heard of it back then. all I knew about Byron was it's shark reputation because the abattoir bloodpipe was still a thing back then.
I lived in a town down here that's got Victoria's most famous "secret/not secret"wave just across the water, so fkn "secret" it's even got two very well known names, depending on which side of that water you live. Epic wave, but sometimes so packed with guys, boats, skis you'd have more hope getting a wave at Malibu. Used to cop shit even talking about it from locals, which was a laugh. But that is our way, surfers, protect what we love and crack the shits because there are so many of us now,
Sometimes it's lucky you are old like me now, happier with the familiar rather than the unknown like I used to be.
Like this topic, well done @Indo.
The Black Shorts can control Hawaiian breaks .
Balinese the same etc.
If I was welcome , to surf breaks in these countries , I would expect to be treated with respect ( no drop ins ) .
There is one thing that really shits me , wherever I surf .
Someone phoning a friend and saying , It's On and then sending a fn photo !!!
Instant crowd !
There is bank at Portsea that looks ok .
I had better not mention it is on the West Camera of SN .
We live in an age where people put their whole lives on Instafacesnaptwittok.I can’t comprehend this.I have never had any of these things An e-mail account only.I believe in humble and private.What’s wrong with low key ?
An age of narcissism.
Nick Bone wrote:We have a wave called Johnnies VJ. Must be a relative of yours?
Haha, I don't know too many spots out your way Nick. The T one was pretty good when I came across it. The rule with a self name spot is it has to be extremely ordinary, something that hardly any sane person would bother with - but it can produce an epic fun session on the right day: if you have the right mind for it.
When I lived in Cowtown, i used to go down and walk to a low key left. Usually at dawn and paddle out alone. When people came around the headland - like 1 or 2 sometimes it was cool - surfing alone at dawn sometimes is better with someone else out. Then sometimes an instant crowd of 6 - 8 comes around the corner. All mates from the city. I know what happens next and if ive been out there long enough, i paddle in.
One of them says to me 'Nice spot - remember loose lips sink ships'.
'Yeah trust me, i'd never bring anyone here'
Theres a lookout at a beach further south, where theres a bit of a slab thats hardly surfable but a good indicator. One mate goes 'check this one breaking at Farnsies', His girlfriend goes 'why's it called Farnsies?'. He said 'Johnny Farnham got a 7 second barrel out there'.
We gave false names to most spots when talking about them, Piss fat rock was probably the best. Where's that they ask? Just look for the rock that looks like a piss fat.
This “it’s well known and you only have to Google it” attitude has evolved stealthily over a few years and is now accepted by a lot of people, younger people I would suggest.
The lines of what’s acceptable keep getting stretched. There was a short movie recently, “kangs” which made my blood boil. No names mentioned other than the region, but it was corporate bullshit which just drew unwanted attention to an area that doesn’t need it. Mick Fanning and a couple of other wealthy pro surfers, appearing to be out in the desert grovelling and frothing. Nobody ever grovelled with a film crew in tow, and a brand new 4 x 4 hire car. That sort of corporate BS is far worse than a few loose lips.
Agreed Chin. My biggest gripe is that too much of the crowding these days is in some ways commercialised, whether it’s people making a profit drawing people in (read: surf camps and retreats and all the “surf cafes” etc that come after them) or that someone will use the backdrop of empty to surf to pose with some product they’re paid to shill.
Surfers are smart and use amazing technology , like forecasting , to work out where to surf .
The Surfing World knew Hawaii would be 20 feet yesterday .
People travel to Namibia , when surf is predicted , for a long Left .
Surfers are , mostly , guided by a great , Unwritten Code of Ethics .
I am a T rex .
Young people are great and the more of them surfing , the more I like it !
I don't mind crowds .
The irony of starting this thread on a surf forecasting and live video streaming website seems to have been lost on the poster.
Not to mention he doesn't pay a cent towards it.
Dropkick of the lowest order.
I really think surfing brings out the best in people .
In 50 years plus , of surfing , have never seen a fight in the water or on a beach ( don't surf super bank much :) .
Have never had an argument in the surf .
A couple of cross words , but everyone goes surfing to surf .
With more Crowds , Foils and Jet Ski's , new Codes of Ethics are needed .
It is MUCH better to Self Regulate than have a Third Party sets the Codes ( Think Lawyers !!!) .
The surfing Elders of the World need to come up with Written Codes that work and are sensible ( like our current codes ) .
I knew the sets could be slow in Vic but not so much that blokes were doing cross words out there.
southernraw wrote:The irony of starting this thread on a surf forecasting and live video streaming website seems to have been lost on the poster.
Not to mention he doesn't pay a cent towards it.
Dropkick of the lowest order.
Nurofen should help for the butt hurt, reduces swelling.
I see a clip has been added which I haven't watched .
The Team at SN do an incredible job at providing a Service by creating a Business .
A business that employs people .
Every Private Sector business HAS to make a profit .
SN are generous and allow non subscribers to see so much wonderful information .
Even more generous in allowing them to comment on the SN sites .
I would like to encourage everyone to become a subscriber ( a member of the team ) of SN .
A business I am very happy to support .
I hear today , SN allow NON subscribers to direct the Content on their site .
Allowing any non subscriber to start a Thread is ridiculously generous imho .
As a new subscriber , I would not take the liberty of starting a thread ( even if I knew how ) .
It wouldn't feel right .
They choose their business model and run it as they see fit .
I might do a Crossword Puzzle ( they are waterproof - had a good laugh ) .
Magiclands probably likes the recent wind change that Blew Out some other secret , I mean popular ,spots .
I have read all the posts ( not shit ) carefully and have made 4 comments .
Others have done the same that view this thread as shit .
It is probably a Thread that did need to be discussed , as it stirring up interest .
Not that i'd read his dumb shit.....
but can see he'd rather resort to homophobic slurs than actually address the subtleties of blowing out surf spots. Don't wanna bite the hand that feeds your out of control narcissistic ego Indo you low life?
Happy to call out one thing but not another? Why start a conversation if you can't follow through on some of the key factors.
And yes Popdown. I have no problem with swellnet at all. Cams, forecasts. That's cos i put down my hard earned cash for the privelege of using it. It is a privelege.
Anyway....go back to blowing out all your favourite bits of coast pop and indo.
Saw Magiclands has some pretty sick banks on the cams this morning Indo!
lostdoggy wrote:I knew the sets could be slow in Vic but not so much that blokes were doing cross words out there.
Can't let that one go unacknowledged, well played sir!
lostdoggy
A seven letter word , with a U as the second letter , that U and I like doing .
It starts with S , for others who aren't as quick as LD .
Supping :D
Sucking?
Looks like it going to back out a big steamy can of Pal
Well we all know he's after s-u-r-f-i-n-g or is it a S-U-R-F-A-R-I to all of the peninsulas more delicate locations?
Please don’t encourage him doggy :-0
Dont know if it's been a thread before but i think it deserves a thread and actually a surfing related topic for once.
The issue discussed in another thread about naming spots online or sharing info about a wave, what can you say and not say? or whats too much?
Or how to deal with things if someone does mention a spot you really wish they wouldn't?
Or even if WOTD is a spot you really wish wasn't WOTD.