2022 Election
actually, all hope is not lost
the minors are gonna have their day
and thank fuck for that, both majors are beyond redeemable, someone needs to hold the two legions of dogs to account, even if it's big clive!
hey sepp,
sure in an ideal world all political parties ought to have their costs audited weeks before the election but are you that naive, romantic or just plain stupid to think that process wouldn't be used by the media to flog Labor time and time again. Murdoch and 9infotainment would have a field day at Labor's expense like they are already in this election while ignoring and discussion on the $5 billion wasted on French subs or $18 billion on rortkeeper. $23 billion wasted and the focus is on Labor FFS.
So you can stick your ideal world naivety up ya clacker until we have fair and equal media staffed with journalists who aren't brain dead puppet apologists for the status quo. I don't blame Labor one iota for adopting this small target strategy after the flogging the media gave Labor last election ....
burleigh wrote:I voted today.
UAP 1
One Nation 2Majors last.
Felt great.
This is from Dennis The Election Koala.
He says it feels great too.
"more cynicaler"
Huh?
I’m still trying to work out this better money managers claim . https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/fact-check-budget-debt-coronaviru...
It's easy Supa - they ain't.
The 5 billion French subs were Turnbulls stuff up not Morrison’s….jobkeeper saved just about everyone I know….Clive knows where to get second hand subs with 15 years warranty for 2 bill each….I think there’s a used sub lot somewhere…..the LNPs new sub deal means we don’t need any yet as the yanks and brits are going to patrol our waters for us….that’s a good deal….personally I hate subs…sneaking around under the ocean….I’m more a hypersonic missiles guy personally….come near us and we send them on their way….look at tiny little Israel…..just copy them and we will be sweet.
AndyM wrote:burleigh wrote:I voted today.
UAP 1
One Nation 2Majors last.
Felt great.
This is from Dennis The Election Koala.
He says it feels great too.
Was a great feeling. Thanking the UAP volunteers on the way in. Normally I try hide from them.
Today I voted for freedom
The look on the majors volunteers was even better. I feel a lot of people voted for UAP today
I punch the air and yell out "FREEDOM" a la Mel Gibson whenever I drive past one of their corflutes.
Crack myself up every time. Small things..,
Freedom from what?
Lol
Optimist wrote:The 5 billion French subs were Turnbulls stuff up not Morrison’s….jobkeeper saved just about everyone I know….Clive knows where to get second hand subs with 15 years warranty for 2 bill each….I think there’s a used sub lot somewhere…..the LNPs new sub deal means we don’t need any yet as the yanks and brits are going to patrol our waters for us….that’s a good deal….personally I hate subs…sneaking around under the ocean….I’m more a hypersonic missiles guy personally….come near us and we send them on their way….look at tiny little Israel…..just copy them and we will be sweet.
So Morrison wasn’t treasurer and didn’t sign off on it ? ok got it thanks for clearing that up , we can’t blame Scumo for anything really……..can we ? Oh and you’re right about the pandemic too , nobody could have dished out the money like slomo and the fraudenberg did………….well not to those that didn’t need it anyway.
Constance B Gibson wrote:Yeah, the rest of Oz always has a chuckle at you knuckleheads. Well, we would if it didn't fuck the rest of the country.
Good times.
Yew!
Stick to league, and we're all sweet.
That’s funny we were all chuckling at you for 2 years while your government locked you down for a mild flu.
Yet, you southerners bend over like good people and took it. Well not all of you, biggest protests I’ve ever seen. I’m sure everyone at those protests plus hundreds of thousands more won’t be voting for the same government
Optimist wrote:The 5 billion French subs were Turnbulls stuff up not Morrison’s….jobkeeper saved just about everyone I know….Clive knows where to get second hand subs with 15 years warranty for 2 bill each….I think there’s a used sub lot somewhere…..the LNPs new sub deal means we don’t need any yet as the yanks and brits are going to patrol our waters for us….that’s a good deal….personally I hate subs…sneaking around under the ocean….I’m more a hypersonic missiles guy personally….come near us and we send them on their way….look at tiny little Israel…..just copy them and we will be sweet.
wait till you see subs that can fire hypersonic missiles...
Strategic environment changed, and a far more capable sub has become necessary. Deal is good in that capability will be present sooner, very good subs in US and UK fleets
your premise is flawed though, by the time they come to us, we're on our last line of defence. Deter further away is far better. Ask the Israelis if they would like more space between them and their neighbours...
An idea would be to have super secure underground weapons bunkers all around the country and train volunteers like capable males females anyone with a responsible history etc to use them like an army reserve then, if we got invaded we just put out the call and everyone arms up…sorta like America but all the guns somewhere a little safer than mums purse…regular weapons training by the army for those who volunteer a couple of times a year….like the SES but with bullets.
@Burley
So, Craig Kelly, leader of the UAP, votes for the following -
FOR
Getting rid of penalty rates
Increasing the price of subsidised medicine
Reducing the corporate tax rate
Fracking
AGAINST
Ending illegal logging
Federal government action on animal & plant extinctions
Increasing consumer protections
Increasing political transparency
Increasing protection of Australia's fresh water
Increasing restrictions on gambling
Increasing support for the Australian film and TV industry
Increasing support for the Australian shipping industry
Increasing the age pension
Increasing protection of Australia's fresh water
Increasing restrictions on gambling
Increasing scrutiny of asylum seeker management
Increasing support for the Australian film and TV industry
Increasing support for the Australian shipping industry
Increasing the age pension
Increasing the diversity of media ownership
Increasing the diversity of media ownership
Restricting donations to political parties
Restricting foreign ownership
Same-sex marriage equality
Stopping tax avoidance or aggressive tax minimisation
Tobacco plain packaging
So Burls, you've voted for a cunt.
A neoliberal cunt.
A crooked cunt.
A cunt against the poor.
A cunt against the sick.
A traitorous cunt.
In fact, he's a special kind of cunt.
He's such a cunt he's a total arsehole.
Freedom!
FREEDUMB!
Craig Kelly sure is a low life piece of work.
AndyM wrote:@Burley
So, Craig Kelly, leader of the UAP, votes for the following -
FOR
Getting rid of penalty rates
Increasing the price of subsidised medicine
Reducing the corporate tax rate
FrackingAGAINST
Ending illegal logging
Federal government action on animal & plant extinctions
Increasing consumer protections
Increasing political transparency
Increasing protection of Australia's fresh water
Increasing restrictions on gambling
Increasing support for the Australian film and TV industry
Increasing support for the Australian shipping industry
Increasing the age pension
Increasing protection of Australia's fresh water
Increasing restrictions on gambling
Increasing scrutiny of asylum seeker management
Increasing support for the Australian film and TV industry
Increasing support for the Australian shipping industry
Increasing the age pension
Increasing the diversity of media ownership
Increasing the diversity of media ownership
Restricting donations to political parties
Restricting foreign ownership
Same-sex marriage equality
Stopping tax avoidance or aggressive tax minimisation
Tobacco plain packagingSo Burls, you've voted for a cunt.
A neoliberal cunt.
A crooked cunt.
A cunt against the poor.
A cunt against the sick.
A traitorous cunt.
In fact, he's a special kind of cunt.
He's such a cunt he's a total arsehole.Freedom!
FREEDUMB!
I have no interest in defending Craig Kelly or UAP but if you are going to make this kind of post you do need to link it to some kind of source ideally a decent one to back it up, otherwise it could just be complete BS cut and pasted from a social media post.
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/
can check for yourself, anyone you like.
Google it big fella.
Cut 'n' paste, it'll be the first thing that pops up.
By the way Indo, you post the most egregious bullshit with nary a link.
AndyM wrote:Google it big fella.
Cut 'n' paste, it'll be the first thing that pops up.By the way Indo, you post the most egregious bullshit with nary a link.
Yep, imagine the dirt on every politician over the years on shit they have voted for.
Nothing but a smear campaign from cut and paste.
Of course it’s the first thing that comes up. That’s part of the problem and freedom of speech.
Are you really that stupid AndyM?
Zzzzzzz
Optimist wrote:An idea would be to have super secure underground weapons bunkers all around the country and train volunteers like capable males females anyone with a responsible history etc to use them like an army reserve then, if we got invaded we just put out the call and everyone arms up…sorta like America but all the guns somewhere a little safer than mums purse…regular weapons training by the army for those who volunteer a couple of times a year….like the SES but with bullets.
I picked you more a “ rods from god “ type guy . https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/project-thor-what-america-s-ne...
AndyM wrote:Google it big fella.
Cut 'n' paste, it'll be the first thing that pops up.By the way Indo, you post the most egregious bullshit with nary a link.
"google it" It was lame when Adam Bandt said it and it's still lame, its just a lazy cop out
I always link things like that, only time i havent is when talking about stats on how long parties or PM's have been in which can all be found here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia
Almost 50 years.
[ BREAKING NEWS II ] 2022 Federal Election is fixed..,tbb called it
201,656 voters tested [+] between Sat- 6pm Tuesday are banned from Voting!
Note Tuesday 67,650 infections was highest cases since 20th Jan.
The bastards cooked the tests / cases to wipe Maximum Voters on the very last day!
All Aussies testing [+] from Sat - 6pm Tuesday are now banned from Voting in 2022 Election.
All have been declared enemies of the state.
Those testing [+] from Tuesday must use AEC Phone (2,000) limit for 200,000 voters
It's designed to crash...200-400,000 voters are being denied the right to Vote! (Right now-Sat)
tbb loaded the Hot Covid seats listing for good reason...can count the lost votes in which Hot seats.
Nope! Not a joke! None were advised or warned by AEC / News or Pollies.
They corrupted the Poll > There is gonna be a riot...they're gunning for a re-election!
AEC only just loaded this [pdf]
https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Translated_information/files/translated...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-19/covid-cases-may-not-be-able-to-vo...
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/i-can-t-believe-i-can-...
Shame on you little Johnny
Tonight 7.30 can reveal that hundreds of millions of dollars in JobKeeper went to private schools, while these same schools were increasing their incomes on the way to a surplus of almost one billion dollars. #abc730 #auspol
— abc730 (@abc730) May 19, 2022
"hey sepp,
sure in an ideal world all political parties ought to have their costs audited weeks before the election but are you that naive, romantic or just plain stupid to think that process wouldn't be used by the media to flog Labor time and time again.."
dude, if the greens can do it, labor can do it
...although it is a greens mechanism, so i guess they have to...
but the point is, it's a good mechanism, and it is in legislation, so show some fucking respect, and fulfill your commitments
its just contemporary labor all over, they have no respect, just pure desperation...
as to the rest of your post... murdoch murdoch murdoch, whinge whinge whinge, excuses excuses excuses...
same old same old same old...
just more patheticness from the party and their hired help
its just nauseating to the extreme
bunch of losers
or, if you are not going to fulfill your commitments...
don't lie to the public for months and months, saying you will release all your policies and costings well before the election
then do a basement biden to the absolute extreme end
just a thought... you know, just the most basic of respect, honesty and integrity...
I remember when a billion dollars was a lot of money, now they throw on a few more billion like a hipster adding a new 4x4 to the house mortgage.
Good one Sepp, as expected
so...
'whatever it takes'
it is
so much for... oh don't bother...
the paid shills have spoken
and once again, it's very telling...
Big Clive was crapping on the same shit last election . When it comes to lying this bloke is in the same class as slomo and people actually believe these two dirt bags and vote for them . https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/uap-labels-chinese-own...
Record Oz wide Voters are denied their Vote
tbb still believes it's Oz wide Nat Cab Covid Promo!
This ABC Test / Case Graph is a perfect interstate / National AEC Spike Promo!
It looks like the perfect evil plan, but is it perfectly orchestrated as a distraction?
tbb recently shared a perfect set of Test > Case Pokie Numbers...ABC graph must be the bookend.
Someone has perfectly shaped fruity loops with every state's AEC cut off Peak like a horror show!
See wot the crew thinks...total set up if there ever was one! (Tests and new cases)
WA is the star of the show but every single State is in on the Game!
100% backs up tbb's sinister AEC plot but all too well...as if evil doer shapes this Test / case link?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-ho...
Last =Test Peak > Peak AEC May & drop
O Z. ( 29th Jan ) > 135 (AEC)117k
nsw(10th April) > 47k (AEC) 40k
VIC ( 31st Jan ) > 28k (AEC) 24k
Qld ( 18th Feb ) > 13k (AEC) 10k
WA (14th Mar ) > 26k (AEC) 23k
S A ( 12th Apr ) > 15k (AEC) 13k
Tas (16th April) > 1.6k (AEC) 1.4k
ACT ( 11th Jan ) > 3.8k (AEC) 3.4k
N.T. (11th April) >1.1k (AEC) 0.9k
All too perfect once again! Almost like an Election Grinch is fucking us over...& problem is?
burleigh wrote:Was a great feeling. Thanking the UAP volunteers on the way in. Normally I try hide from them.
Today I voted for freedom
The look on the majors volunteers was even better. I feel a lot of people voted for UAP today
Todays freedoms were won mainly by organised labour (yes unions) brave hearts standing against police trudgens fighting for our rights best example is actually your part of Australia went it was run by Bjelke-Petersen, authoritarian and corrupted to the core.
Fat billionaires and grifters arla Kelly were no where to be seen and never will be, you been had well and truly.
I see no one hid sepp’s tin foil hat while he was away, sad
burleigh wrote:AndyM wrote:Google it big fella.
Cut 'n' paste, it'll be the first thing that pops up.By the way Indo, you post the most egregious bullshit with nary a link.
Yep, imagine the dirt on every politician over the years on shit they have voted for.
Nothing but a smear campaign from cut and paste.
Of course it’s the first thing that comes up. That’s part of the problem and freedom of speech.
Are you really that stupid AndyM?
Zzzzzzz
A smear campaign?
It's all on the public record, it's straight from parliament.
Whether it's Indo saying that increases in port fees and increases in electricity costs are "opinion", or you saying that parliamentary transcripts are a "smear", you fellas need to get your shit together.
haha .. Joh for PM
As an example Burls, here's the record of the Illegal Logging Prohibition Bill 2011.
20th Aug 2012, 4:30 PM – Representatives
Illegal Logging Prohibition Bill 2011 - Consideration in Detail - Agree to the bill
Share Facebook Twitter Summary Edit
The majority voted in favour of a motion to agree to the bill, as it was amended in the House of Representatives.
Background of the bill
The bill will prohibit:
importing and selling all timber products that contain illegally logged timber; and
processing illegally harvested domestically grown raw logs.
It will also introduce due diligence requirements and require products that are legally logged to be accurately described before being put up for sale in Australia.
Read more about the bill in its bill summary.
External links
Debate in Parliament
Illegal Logging Prohibition Bill 2012
Votes Passed by a small majority
People who are for ending illegal logging would have voted Yes
Add or update related policies
Nobody rebelled against their party.
Party Votes
Adam Bandt Melbourne
Australian Greens
Yes
Australian Labor Party
(93% turnout)
65 Yes – 0 No show members
Natasha Griggs Solomon
Country Liberal Party
No
Anna Burke Chisholm
Deputy Speaker
Absent
Robert Oakeshott Lyne
Independent
Yes
Craig Thomson Dobell
Independent
Yes
Andrew Wilkie Denison
Independent
Yes
Tony Windsor New England
Independent
Yes
Bob Katter Kennedy
Katter's Australian Party
Absent
Liberal Party
(93% turnout)
0 Yes – 55 No show members
National Party
(92% turnout)
0 Yes – 11 No show members
Peter Slipper Fisher
Speaker
Absent
Totals
(91% turnout)
70 Yes – 67 No
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/divisions/representatives/2012-08-20/2
Reckon Burls would have voted for Joh 100%, woulda been a big fan.
"Andy that's not true, you're making it up."
"But Burleigh, here's the evidence, it's been recorded in black and white."
"No, no, no Andy, that's a falsehood, you can flog a dead horse you mark my words, and it's still a dead horse, fool me once and the horse is still lying down, fool me twice and by jingos it doesn't turn into Phar Lap, it's a lie, you're putting my words into your mouth and then watching my ears move with your nose as it grows longer like a wooden puppet."
10 years ago. Clutching here AndyM. Really clutching
You wanna paint a long term picture or what?
Here's some on anti-corruption, 14 bills from 2009 to 2021.
It's all there for you.
By the way, Craig Kelly isn't big on anti-corruption stuff.
And he's a grub and a bullshit artist.
And you support him.
"No Andy no, none of it is real, it's biased, it's a smear campaign, you're wrong".
Wow! That was fast! We just raised $126k from 1,361 generous donors in 4 hours.
— Dr Monique Ryan MP (@Mon4Kooyong) May 19, 2022
We’ll be filing court documents first thing in the morning, trying to force our government to #LetThemVote.
Thank you for your support. I'll keep you posted during the day. #auspol #KooyongVotes https://t.co/RWzlJpSnWv
This ones for you tbb. Kooyong candidate Dr Monique Ryan raised funds last night to take Special Minister of State, Ben Morton, to the Federal Court.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/19/aec-anomaly-means...
burleigh wrote:10 years ago. Clutching here AndyM. Really clutching
It’s not a stitch up burleigh, here is his voting record. Worth diving in just to see what he is all about, after all isn't the idea to find someone to represent what you believe in?
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/hughes/craig_kelly
As for his boss....well.......7% attendance rate makes it hard to see what he's about
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/fairfax/clive_palmer
burleigh, out of his depth is a delight. Proven to be, just not that smart. So fucking dumb.
Should go for a surf..if he actually surfed, but he doesn’t, so he can’t.
For the record, here are the voting options for McPherson (which takes in Burleigh Heads), in ballot order (interestingly, it has two less independents than the 2019 election).
Karen Andrews | Liberal National Party
Kevin Hargraves | Pauline Hanson's One Nation
Gary Pead | Australian Federation Party
Scott Turner | Greens
Andy Cullen | Australian Values Party
Joshua Berrigan | United Australia Party
Glenn Pyne | Liberal Democrats
Carl Ungerer | Australian Labor Party
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-16/who-will-you-be-voting-for-in-the...
Can certainly understand why someone might not want to vote for either of the two majors.
But out of six independents, why did you choose UAP and PHON, Burleigh? (sorry if you have already answered this). Do you really think UAP will cap interest rates at 3%?
Or is yours a protest vote? If so, do you understand where the UAP preferences will flow?
EDITORIAL
Why the Morrison government does not deserve another term
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/why-the-morrison-government-does...
thermalben wrote:For the record, here are the voting options for McPherson (which takes in Burleigh Heads), in ballot order (interestingly, it has two less independents than the 2019 election).
Karen Andrews | Liberal National Party
Kevin Hargraves | Pauline Hanson's One Nation
Gary Pead | Australian Federation Party
Scott Turner | Greens
Andy Cullen | Australian Values Party
Joshua Berrigan | United Australia Party
Glenn Pyne | Liberal Democrats
Carl Ungerer | Australian Labor Partyhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-16/who-will-you-be-voting-for-in-the...
Can certainly understand why someone might not want to vote for either of the two majors.
But out of six independents, why did you choose UAP and PHON, Burleigh? (sorry if you have already answered this). Do you really think UAP will cap interest rates at 3%?
Or is yours a protest vote? If so, do you understand where the UAP preferences will flow?
UAP had preferenced Liberal Democrats second, however I did not follow their preferences. FYI they had the majors last.
Clive was the first major person to openly talk out against mandatory vaccinations, i also attended protests in Brisbane where he was. Craig Kelly introduced bills into parliament to try stop this vaccine bullshit unsuccessfully.
Is he a grub? Probably, but tell me what politician that isn’t. Just look the last two years, it’s obvious corruption runs very high in our government at all levels with secret deals to get certain legislation through.
3% internet rates. I don’t really care. Funny you haven’t mentioned broken promises from the major parties since the beginning of time
.