The Necessity of Reparation for Historic Injustices

bluediamond started the topic in

Sunday, 25 Jul 2021 at 1:26pm

Uni assignment i did a few years ago. This is my take on things. I'm sure this will ruffle many feathers. I hope so.
Love Blue Diamond x

Introduction – Compensatory Justice
Disparities between the standards of living of humans on this planet have long been a part of our history on this planet. From the wealthy nations of the West to the developing and undeveloped nations on this globe, the diversity in the quality of life when viewed from a moral standpoint are without a doubt grossly unfair.
In this paper I will look at why historic injustices do require some form of reparation. I take a strong stance that we are more obliged to solve current injustices than to provide reparation for every act of injustice in the past. In doing this I will first investigate the historic injustice of the Aboriginal people of Australia and I will look at the argument that they are entitled to some form of reparation and why.
I will incoroporate some interesting views from Jeremy Waldron, Robert Nozick and others which will help me slowly build to my conclusion that reparation should be in the form of Non Indigenous Australians surrendering some of our priveleges as a form of reparation.

Historic Injustices to Indigenous Australians:
Australia the continent was well inhabited for many years long before white settlement. It is commonly known that in 1788 Australia was colonised as a country under the rule of the British Empire, with total contempt for the fact that it was already inhabited by a native indigenous race of people.
The way the original inhabitants have been treated, including forced assimilation, execution, stolen families and not even allowed to be recognised as citizens for a large part of white Australia’s history are also well known facts. (Poole, 1999,pp114-142)
There exists now a situation where there is a large divide between Aboriginal and non Aboriginal Australian’s that can be traced back to the moment Australia was invaded by English settlers and the brutal and unfair treatment that has followed.
So at this point now, in 2013 what is the just and fair way to make amends for past actions?
I would argue that a moderate to large amount of reparation is overdue for this nation of people, the Aboriginal people. But there are many challenges to this view point especially that of how much reparation, and what sort of compensation.

Past injustices or present suffering?
One of the questions raised in an issue like this is whether it is better to provide compensation or reparation for past deeds, which have already been done in a previous generation and cannot be changed, or whether it is better to now provide assistance to those who are suffering in their current situations and consider that as a form of moral duty.
To understand this we need to delve a little deeper into this issue and hear some differing viewpoints.
Firstly we need to understand what the best way to provide reparation. How do we judge what is the best way of giving back and how much? Jeremy Waldron states “The historic record has a fragility that consists, …in the sheer contingency of what happened in the past” (Waldron,1992,p5 )
This is saying that we can’t trace every single injustice back to the original act therefore reparation for every act would be almost impossible because it would ultimately be guess work.
In this statement he has an objection from Robert Nozick who believes it is in fact possible to address this problem by “changing the present so that it resembles how the past would have looked had the injustice not taken place” (McKenzie, 2013)
This would be a way to ultimately provide maximum reparation, but is it the correct approach? I believe this is a fairly radical approach, although it does have some merits in the fact it would be working in a positive way for indigenous people, I don’t think it is entirely the right way to deal with these issues but it is on the right track.
Waldron argues that it is based on too many unknowns. “The status of counterfactual reasoning about the exercising of human reasoning of human freedom is unclear”(Waldron 1993,p10)
Which leaves the question somewhat open about the sort of reparation that is required, but provides one clear answer to the key question. Both agree that yes, reparation to some extent is required. But how much and in what form?
Another philosopher who leans more towards Waldron’s views is Kymlicka. He is somewhat more straightforward in his assessment that property rights in particular for Aboriginals would create “massive unfairness” and also he maintains the argument “Aboriginal rights must be grounded in concerns about equality and contemporary disadvantage. (McKenzie, 2013) I agree with both these views but I don’t think they provide any active solutions.

The Solution?
So if its not handing back all of Australia’s land to the original inhabitants that is the most appropriate way to deal with past injustices, then what is?
I look at the current country I grew up in, as a white Australian. I ask myself why I never had Aboriginal friends growing up, no understanding of Aboriginal culture and why my basic understanding of Indigenous Australians is mostly 200 years old. I look at our flag, a symbol of a nation that stole a country from its original inhabitants, with no recognition of the Indigenous people at all on it. I see that Australia considered Indigenous people as less than people until only 40 years ago and I see the way that Indigenous Australians live a completely separate life to the way of life I know as an Australian. I see that the only indigenous politician I am aware of is a former Olympian and it is because of this fact of her sporting status that I know this. I see no collective power or representation of Indigenous Australians and I see non Indigenous Australians,( a culture built on a history of stealing a land and mistreating its people) still taking, taking as much out of this land as they can, with little to no regard of sharing or giving to the original inhabitants. I see a government that says lots of words about ‘closing the gap’ and bringing the living standards of non- indigenous and indigenous Australians closer together, but apart from nice words, there is no conviction, no follow through, just assimilation , and all that still remains are injustices.
As stated by Sparrow, “Continuity gives rise to responsibility on part of present generations of Australians for our history”.(McKenzie,2013). Although deeds happened in the past beyond our control, what we do now to either ignore, or rectify these issues will reflect on us in history. So if we choose to do nothing, we are contributing to the history of the mistreatment of non- indigenous Australians. And this is simply unacceptable in my opinion.

Conclusion
So what is fair? I believe that the way forward is a surrendering of some of our privileges as non- indigenous Australians. The simple fact is it was morally wrong without a doubt what has happened in the past. And it is also morally wrong without a doubt to ignore these facts and not offer some form of reparation in the present. But how much?
I think that going back to Robert Nozick’s argument is a start. I think Nozick is wrong to make the present resemble the past in every aspect. But I do think that it would be reasonable to restore some aspects of the way things should be. The things that happened in the past were out of our control and we can’t go back to changing the way things were. But we could change the way things are.
For some examples. Why not give at least 50% of political power to indigenous people? It surely would be a fair thing to do considering this is their country. Media control. 50 percent. Industry. Realestate. The list goes on. Why do we not acknowledge the indigenous people on our flag, or better still use their flag? Why is Australia still a part of the Commonwealth when it serves little purpose to any of us and serves as a constant reminder to Indigenous Australians that they are still controlled by the original invaders. These to me are fairly simple reparations that would have minimal impact on Australia as a whole. Perhaps, it would alter the way we live but I think it is our responsibility, morally to forfeit some of our privileges for the greater good. Basically a little bit goes a long way.
In closing, it is a fact that a huge injustice occurred to the Indigenous population and suffering continues to this day. There is no easy solution to such a burden of pain. I believe the only solutions are for the non- Indigenous population to take responsibility and sacrifice our own way of life to bring about an overall equality. Sacrifice is not an easy word. But it all comes down to right and wrong. We are in a position to give, in this current generation. What are we so scared to lose, that was never ours in the first place??

Bibliography
McKenzie,C.”Prof” (2013), Lecture, Historic Injustices and Indigenous Rights, Macquarie University
Poole, R. (1999). Nation and Identity.Routledge, London, pp.114-142
Waldron,J. (1992). ‘Superseding Historic Injustice’. Ethics, 103 (1), 4-28

References
Poole, R. (1999). Nation and Identity.Routledge, London, pp.114-142
Waldron,J. (1992). ‘Superseding Historic Injustice’. Ethics, 103 (1), 4-28

southernraw Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 5:22pm

The comments on this facebook post are bewildering and leave me feeling helpless and that education and awareness is futile. Can only hope these generations die off but then, they're gonna breed this mentality into their children too. Fucken sad state of affairs this country.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/amTLfY34zoU316LS/

udo Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 8:13pm

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 4:20pm

Things certainly feel like they're heating up again...
Gotta icky feelin' Dutto's now promised 3rd Voice Reffo / Fed Election is gonna get pretty ugly.
Media will ramp fear factor to deliver Dutto his divisive decisive dirty deed done dirt cheap
Do we really gotta kick the Locals where it hurts again...it's already happening isn't it...

No shortage of Media ramping [ Vote Hell No ] in Dutto's 3rd Voice Recital
Gold Logie goes to Prime Monster Voldemort!

Lets say we throw a sprinkle of Good news into the Voice to stop the rot.
Gonna try to sneak in 1 outta 4 ...without upsetting any Shock Jocks...
Let's see if we get away with it...promise not to tell...

The Good, The Elites, The Bad & The Ugly...that don't sound right...think tbb is up to somethin'! Shh!

*Croatia does First Nation...(See wot ya did there tbb...gonna pretend this is good news...Say Wot!)
Said...tbb thought a covert Euro operation could sneak under the radar...busted!

Jan 2013 Aboriginal Art Tour of Croatia
https://news.flinders.edu.au/blog/2013/01/30/aboriginal-art-goes-to-croa...
May 2021 Croatian Kids interactive dedication to First Nation Art (Also young Oz/Croatian Artists about...cool)
https://www.facebook.com/Australia.in.Croatia/posts/see-how-croatian-chi...
https://www.artsteps.com/embed/6086ae866f036a60720bfbeb/560/315
Feb 2023 Countryman Movie Croatian follows his First Nation Roots

July 2024 Kaya Croatia
https://nit.com.au/13-09-2024/13702/first-nations-performers-take-centre...
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/noongar-culture-showcased-on-global-...
Bonus Vidz
https://www.facebook.com/100065086260380/videos/467477722918663?__so__=p...

How did ya dream this up tbb...dunno...just keeping the Fire Burning! The Wot Wot ? Nevermind!

* [Elites Vote Yes]
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https://waminda.org.au/2024/06/national-event-celebrates-indigenous-fema...

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The Bad :
{Breaking News} Central Land Council CEO New "Interim Caretaker"
Watch this Space...Price vs CLC Brawl will poison the Election (see: Real Ugly)
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/central-land-council-members-surpris...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php/?story_fbid=967833242024465&id=10...
https://nit.com.au/18-09-2024/13780/warren-williams-elected-new-central-...

The Ugly
Bog standard [L] Appointed First Nation Thug extorts the Mob again.
That sounds like another Price Family Rort.
How about a real ugly Howard appointed Thug being caught out, charged, in custody awaiting jail time.
Howard's ATSIC Thug was caught out extorting $920k of $2m found guilty on 25/38 charges > Jail.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-17/how-operation-omega-brought-down-...
https://nit.com.au/12-09-2024/13685/indigenous-leader-taken-into-custody...

So where are we at with the Voldemort Don't Know Vote No ... Prime Monster Trilogy
1. [L] Fake Postal Vote Voice Reffo ( Exploited Pre Reffo period to Stamp newbies!)
2. [L] Mandatory Don't know Vote NO Pamphlet Drop Reffo
3. [L] Vote NO to ALP @ 2025 Election Reffo (You are here! In a trance under Voldemort's 3rd Curse)
4. [L] Win election > Obligated 60% Vote YES to keep First Nation outta our Constitution Reffo.

I focus Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 4:23pm

southernraw wrote:
The comments on this facebook post are bewildering and leave me feeling helpless and that education and awareness is futile. Can only hope these generations die off but then, they're gonna breed this mentality into their children too. Fucken sad state of affairs this country.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/amTLfY34zoU316LS/

Yeah interesting or sad is it education, prudice, learnt behaviour ?

Or is our culture that bad would love to hear Stu's philosophical take on that.

udo Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 7:42pm

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southernraw Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 8:17pm

udo wrote:
https://youtu.be/bvqlbdmhZWQ?si=CrxhLEPhzOFzdew1

96 % of the population feeling triggered by a welcome to country ceremony, and gasp...an outspoken indigenous elder on the big stage.
Not hearing too much outrage from indigenous crew except that loopy chick yapping away.
For what it's worth. The welcome to country doesn't bother me at all. i enjoy it as part of the ceremony and i applaud the guy having the guts to speak passionately representing his own people.
So what's your thoughts Udo?

basesix Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 8:29pm

I was at uni at the same time as Alex. Seemed a calmly spoken survivor of generational bullying. had a chip on his shoulder about being expected to go into medicine. weird cat. reckon he has the stuff to go all the way. Thanks for the recommend @southern, the ebook was available through the library at keith's work, I read it near Ceduna, I know keith miller to look at, quiet, unassuming little feller. (more than I can say for the editors! haha) His chapter 10 Balancing Individualism and Collectivism in an Australian Aboriginal Context was very thought provoking.

southernraw Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 8:43pm

Thanks @basesix. You're a gem. Will try to get a hold of more chapters.

seeds Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 9:02pm

Funny hearing the speaker saying we’re only asking to listen for two minutes in response to interjections to Alex’s speech.
That’s all it is at the footy too! Isn’t? That Alex is so put out by.

southernraw Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 9:12pm

yep @seeds. When you consider a footy game is 120 minutes, plus the time spent on ground before and during the quarter time breaks, roughly 180 minutes, that 2 minutes represents 1.1 percent of gametime for 3.8 percent of the Australian population. I can see why people are so up in arms!
Obviously post voice, with their tails up the outspoken majority of the Australian population will stop at nothing to....well i'll leave this bit blank and for others to ponder...

AlfredWallace Thursday, 19 Sep 2024 at 6:32am

southernraw wrote:
yep @seeds. When you consider a footy game is 120 minutes, plus the time spent on ground before and during the quarter time breaks, roughly 180 minutes, that 2 minutes represents 1.1 percent of gametime for 3.8 percent of the Australian population. I can see why people are so up in arms!
Obviously post voice, with their tails up the outspoken majority of the Australian population will stop at nothing to....well i'll leave this bit blank and for others to ponder...

Hi guys. I’m appalled by the way we keep ‘fighting’ to smother any advancement in coupling our relationship with the original occupants of our land.

Is it that bloody hard to acknowledge their existence?

I’ll post a very sad story this evening, one of my surf mates has been married for near on 30 years to an aboriginal woman from WA. They live in Victoria, they have twins, boy and girl who for their whole time at high school were bullied from day one until graduation recently. In today’s age ? What the fuck is wrong with people ?
Its parents inherited viewpoints that’s the problem, learnt behaviours from previous generations, nothing more, nothing less. A very long way to go. AW

southernraw Thursday, 19 Sep 2024 at 7:27am

AlfredWallace wrote:
southernraw wrote:
yep @seeds. When you consider a footy game is 120 minutes, plus the time spent on ground before and during the quarter time breaks, roughly 180 minutes, that 2 minutes represents 1.1 percent of gametime for 3.8 percent of the Australian population. I can see why people are so up in arms!
Obviously post voice, with their tails up the outspoken majority of the Australian population will stop at nothing to....well i'll leave this bit blank and for others to ponder...

Hi guys. I’m appalled by the way we keep ‘fighting’ to smother any advancement in coupling our relationship with the original occupants of our land.

Is it that bloody hard to acknowledge their existence?

I’ll post a very sad story this evening, one of my surf mates has been married for near on 30 years to an aboriginal woman from WA. They live in Victoria, they have twins, boy and girl who for their whole time at high school were bullied from day one until graduation recently. In today’s age ? What the fuck is wrong with people ?
Its parents inherited viewpoints that’s the problem, learnt behaviours from previous generations, nothing more, nothing less. A very long way to go. AW

Geez that's horrible to hear AW. Fark not surprising though. Inherited yes. Agree 100percent. When you look through the comments and you see 'im sick of this shit' and 'it's our country too' etc etc, the pig headed ignorance of simple recognition for the people who were here makes me pretty angry. I can't imagine what it would be like to live that experience. If only others could try to put themselves into the shoes of indigenous people through the lens of various different social settings and see how starkly different being an 'australian' is but nup, it's a society of take take take, capitalism and individualism, giving is not part of the structure, not even giving a little thought and time.

udo Monday, 23 Sep 2024 at 6:16am

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/brisbane-drive/why-some-rural-abo...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-23/alice-river-student-hostel-closes...

waveman Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 1:06pm

In case anyone was in any doubt as to exactly how hollow the yes campaign for “the voice” was, here is the ALP and Greens:

https://nit.com.au/11-09-2024/13648/price-labels-albanese-two-faced-for-...

Who’s listening now?

stunet Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 1:32pm

waveman wrote:
In case anyone was in any doubt as to exactly how hollow the yes campaign for “the voice” was, here is the ALP and Greens:

https://nit.com.au/11-09-2024/13648/price-labels-albanese-two-faced-for-...

Who’s listening now?

An inquiry has been going since June, waveman. Directed the Australian Law Reform Commission.

Also, it's not just Labor, Greens, and various independents voting against the duplicate inquiry, but other invested orgs too:

"On Tuesday afternoon, the National Native Title Council (NNTC) rejected the calls for an inquiry, with chair Kado Muir saying in the wake of the Voice referendum defeat, "it's upsetting that some politicians would continue to use Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities as a political football".

""[I]t is a sad day when native title holders who have spent decades fighting for their rights get dragged into politics for no good reason," Mr Muir said.

"NNTC chief executive, Jamie Lowe, stated: "Allies of First Nations Australians in the Senate will do our people no favours by indulging in further politicisation and division.""

I wonder who they're talking about?

AndyM Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 1:48pm

As if Jacinta Price would ever use Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities as a political football :)

I focus Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 2:52pm

waveman wrote:
In case anyone was in any doubt as to exactly how hollow the yes campaign for “the voice” was, here is the ALP and Greens:

https://nit.com.au/11-09-2024/13648/price-labels-albanese-two-faced-for-...

Who’s listening now?

The two are worlds apart Waveman the Voice was about Aboriginals having an impact on federal policy that affects people at a local level.

Your headline is Price waging war on groups who she won't / cannot talk to due to her denigrating many Aboriginals to a point even members of her own family and mob no longer will deal with her.

Price when discussing the Voice said it should be local (structures already exist so what's her point) but not federal but then wanted child protection run out of Canberra go figure.

Note that there nothing and I mean nothing Price has advocated for hasn't been done before... nothing and here we are.

Its a pity Price will always be divisive playing white Australia off against Aboriginals and white Australia buying into it and cheering her on.

southernraw Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 3:07pm

As much as she gives me the shits @ifocus, i reckon she'll be the Libs next P.M sometime in the next decade. She's got a tonne of support unfortunately.

I focus Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 3:26pm

southernraw wrote:
As much as she gives me the shits @ifocus, i reckon she'll be the Libs next P.M sometime in the next decade. She's got a tonne of support unfortunately.

Politically unlikely PM, not impossible would have some support from the hard right (tells you everything) but suspect way to many grifters inline before Price.

Supafreak Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 3:51pm

southernraw wrote:
As much as she gives me the shits @ifocus, i reckon she'll be the Libs next P.M sometime in the next decade. She's got a tonne of support unfortunately.

I seriously doubt the Liberal Party would select JP to be their leader.

stunet Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 3:57pm

I don't think so either. Her and Spud had a marriage of convenience during the Voice but there are fundamental differences between Price and the LNP base.

indo-dreaming Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 4:35pm

As much as i love Jacinta she doesn't yet have the political experience to be considered to be PM and she has said she doesn't even know if its something she wants.

For perspective she is only 43 and Albo is 61 so if its something she wants to have a crack at she has plenty of time to work towards it.

She was amazing though with the voice, her confidence and clarity in public speaking makes Albo appear like Biden.

southernraw Friday, 27 Sep 2024 at 4:36pm

Stranger things have happened in politics, and you don't have to look too far to see the types that would support her. ^
Plus, with horrible irony, the angle of having the first indigenous woman as PM is a carrot dangling that LNP can work to their advantage,...
But i hope all of the above comments are correct...i'm not convinced though.

truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Sep 2024 at 11:43am

Silence is Golden...keep the fire burning.
Qldurrz brotherly dedication to impossibly perfect Indigenous Voice Diplomacy.

True Blue Diplomatic Intro...
Foreign Affairs ministers must be equally outlandishly reserved to be accepted on a world stage.
Evans / Downer / Smith / Rudd / Carr all get pissed enough to wear tights under their Hula skirt.
Bishop / Payne / Wong parade about in Power Suits that command respect.
Speaks for itself that a multinational unisex alien is overqualified to represent any modern nation.

Imagine if Australia appointed an openly gay indigenous brother to rub shoulders with Kings'n'Queens!
Could that possibly happen & what message would that send to the world...
Would we even get to know about such or would it fly under the radar...
Well it did happen and is still happening and very few Aussies care to notice until...

Not at liberty to say...this is a personal journey that each evaluate by own merit.
If it's not news by now...then many would argue that's the secret to success...let's bottle it!

Would dearly love to out our remarkable fellow Qldurr but equally don't wish to politicize the crew.
Happy to dedicate impossibly perfect Invisible Voice Diplomacy...outta respect to Mob & the crew.
This is your journey with Aussie indigenous Culture on the World Stage...please don't muck it up...Ok!

Yes! Of course...A traditional censored welcome to secret men's business...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-11/first-indigenous-australian-appoi...
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10152525075297005&set=a.310719992004
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Miller
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2013/05/a-diplomatic-first

Culture

Aussie abroad.
https://hasseferrold.blogspot.com/2016/02/australia-day-gday-dk-2016-26-...

Royalty / Anzacs
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/city-east/sydney-student-awa...
https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/crown-princess-mary-of-denm...
https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/crown-princess-mary-spouse-...

Qldurr at Heart
https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2016/09/uq-seals-copenhagen-collabora...

EU > Oz
https://agenda.studentersamfundet.aau.dk/2017/06/an-interview-with-damie...

EU > Oz > US
https://www.atlanticfellows.org/bio/damien-miller

NZ
https://www.facebook.com/AusHCNZ/videos/interview-with-damien-miller/241...

Indigicyber

Partnering a Universal Stage (Note : "Alt Universal underground Gay Icon...smashed it...Shh!")
https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/damien-miller-australian-am...

Recognition
https://www.fprs.com.au/damien-patrick-miller-pioneering-indigenous-dipl...

Antlantic Fellows / Oz
https://www.atlanticfellows.org/post/is-australia-finally-catching-up-on...
Atlantic Fellows Executive Director
https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2024/july/atlantic-fellows-for-...

Aurora
https://aurorafoundation.com.au/about-us/profiles/damien-miller/

Proud to be a Qldurr...Go Bro...Keep the Fire Burning...

truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Sep 2024 at 10:44pm

Statement from the Heart beats new life into World Indigenous Diplomacy

(Part 1) UN : A seat at the Captain's table of decision making!

Reffo : 60% Don't Know Voting No
A Foreign Affair : ALL Parties Vote Hell Yeah!
UN Mandate > Equal All Foreign Policy = In nations best Interest Priority Exemption

2017 Statement from the Heart was part / fully adopted by ALP 16x prior to 2022 Election

[L] Were reluctant but did endorse 100% adoption into DFAT.
Can read tbb's last installment > Universal / Indigenous / Multisex / Multiverse = ***** Exemptions!

20th May 2021 Liberal Govt all Indigenous Heads drafted Indigenous priority DFAT Policy
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2021/05/australia-is-pursuing-a-mo...

[Indigenous Diplomacy Agenda] (4 Pillars)
https://www.dfat.gov.au/sites/default/files/indigenous-diplomacy-agenda.pdf
1. To internationalize our Foreign Policy to benefit Indigenous People
2. To maximise opportunities for Globalized Indigenous trade and economic policy.
3. Promote sustainable Indigenous Development
4. To corporatize culturally competent Indigenous staff policy within DFAT

Indigenous Engagement Plan : Embeds Oz indigenous cultural exchange thru Breadth of Pacific
https://www.dfat.gov.au/news/speech/contribution-indigenous-australia-ou...

(Pause! Why were [L] rushing Indigenous inclusion into DFAT & why does Dutto / Jacinta now rescind it.

[factcheck] DFAT Indigenous compliance on world stage.
eg: Oz Indigenous Pop = 3.8% (vs) DFAT = 3.2% DFAT Ambassadors = 0%

Ok! But that bothers [L] least of all...they hate UN Human Rights Compliance...(Maybe so!)

But world was in lockdown and Fed [L] was desperately seeking to bust State / National lockdowns.

20 May 2021 (Check exact same date as DFAT) Huh! It's one of the same exemption rort! Got it!
Read 3. Vax for Essential o/s Travel (Exemption category) Add on : (First Nation is Nat' Risk Interest!)
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2021/fa-210600779-document-rele...

27 May 2021 Feds iso Local Hire > Pac Indigenous (Relief Effort) Labour Slave imports Skyrocket
https://devpolicy.org/the-pls-and-covid-19-20210527-2/

Bang! Bang ! Bang! > Bank Statements for the Bleedin' Hearts (How ya like me now!)
Wow tbb...that's pretty fuckin' damning...ain't it just! (DFAT Indigenous Exploitation Diplomacy!)

Statement from the Heart is 24/7 National Priority during Pandemic's rising persecution of indigenous!
They get fucked over'n'over'every which way...likely a Mass Long Covid Class Action.

DFAT Exempt *Unvaxed priority Indigenous Art Trade Exports to Wealthy Hubs.
(Equally)
Exempts *Unvaxed Pacific indigenous entry *Cashed up Students *Slave Farm Hands *Med Slaves.

May 2021 : Chinese / Nepalese Students
(Staging Hubs) @ Singapore / Brunei / Malaysia > see also above Damian 2000.
May 2021 : PALM Islands Scheme / Coalition Cockies - Covid Vax Exempted Slave Labour Camps
NP : 'Ya won't drown coz our Southern Mission Slave Picker camp beds have top bunks!' Just sayin'!
End of 2021: (Aboriginal Art Export Teams) "Affirmative Measures"
Houston / Toronto / Kuala Lumpur (Note 280 Exporters to Plumped Lambs)
May 2022 : (Import American Indian Culture) Syd / Bne / Darwin

Election = New ALP Govt knowingly reciprocates the Indigenous Art Class Exploitation
Oct 2022: (Aboriginal Art Export Teams) hit > Anchorage / Washington DC / New Orleans
Recapping this was part of Former Govt deal...Docs say such!

All clearly see Liberal Govt exploited Indigenous Diplomacy to export Art + Import Students / Slaves
If any ask...[L] Say it's culturally insensitive to breach Protected Species personal data!
tbb tried hard to get costings for exempt trade missions but even ABC quotes are from 3rd party transit.
On top of that...crew will recall the hyper inflated transit flights / buses / accom...just insane to guess!

In any way shape or form the Lib's pioneered I& championed indigenous diplomatic exploitation...

(Part2) Indigenous Ambassador's Diplomacy!
May Election : ALP
21 Sept Penny Wong (EIS) Ambassador for First Nation People
https://www.indigenous.gov.au/news-and-media/announcements/ambassador-fi...
*Embed Indigenous into DFAT to grow First Nation trade and investment
*Ambassador will lead Oz engagement to progress First Nation rights globally
*Enhance our Engagement in Indo Pacific region by fostering cooperation and shared interests.
Linda Burney
* Ensure First Nation are include in International Agreements
* Ambassador is supported to engage countries to 'share' Statement of the Heart/Treaties/Truth telling!

Oct : Lib Reciprocal North America Visit (See above)

4 Nov Submissions Close (6 panel mixed rep panel will short list candidates)
https://www.governmentnews.com.au/first-nations-ambassador-to-be-appoint...
Cost $2m Establishment from $900m Pacific Aid budget.

14 Nov
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/first-nations-diplomacy-could-be-austr...

22 Nov : A culturally Adaptive Approach to First Nations evaluation consulting (Study Paper)
Proves to be a driving force for UN First Nations intellectual rights.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1035719X221139858

Jan 2023
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/putting-first-...

7 March 2023 : Justin Mohamed is appointed Inaugural Oz First Nation Ambassador
3 April start / Justin :"Honoured & excited about embedding First Nation knowledge, voices & connection!
https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/penny-wong/media-release/amb...
More about Strategic Aims here...This is a new and only Role in UN > Ambitious Aims.
* Promote, protect & progress indigenous peoples rights and interests
* Work with First Nation communities to Identify and repatriate human remains / sacred objects
* Diplomatic Academy + International Advocacy
https://www.dfat.gov.au/international-relations/themes/indigenous-people...
20 April Justin @ UN Permanent Forum of Indigenous Issues
Noting the expansion of Aims from 4 > 5 > 6 issues
* Transform Govt Agencies
* Improve & Share access data ( see 28 Sept 2024)

June Pacific Communities are captivated by Indigenous Lead Power broker!
Considering this Global Spokesman is from a nation with least Indigenous representation.
SBS / Justin interviews / (30min Vid )...(Here)
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/living-black/article/why-ambassador-justin-m...

24 Sept Dutto will sack him Day 1 > (Travel Cost Blowout?)
P Wong + Spokesman : Defends costs...
* Ambassador was essential to delivering a groundbreaking treaty securing formal Recognition of First Nations People's Genetic Resources and traditional knowledge!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13880443/Mindblowing-sums-Austr...

Dutto / Media asks wot our Ambassador has achieved...

25 Sept 2024 Sinking Tuvalu fights to keep maritime boundaries
(Notice this News features in National Indigenous Times) Read next...
https://nit.com.au/25-09-2024/13900/sinking-tuvalu-fights-to-keep-mariti...

28 Sept 2024 (Today!) Penny Wong heralds Oz Ambassador on Centre stage of Humanity!
{The World is Shrouded in Darkness }

"Earlier this year, Australia's Ambassador for First Nations People helped bring countries together to finalize the World Property Organization Treaty on Intellectual Property, Genetic Resources and Associated Traditional Knowledge.
The Treaty acknowledges the link between traditional knowledge, innovation and intellectual property.

It helps First Nations communities identify and protect the use of their knowledge by others, which will in in turn spur collaboration between researchers, innovators and communities, opening up new opportunities for First Nations entrepreneurship.

The Treaty is remarkable for another reason.
It serves as a source of optimism.
193 member states have agreed on new rules to the world's intellectual property system.
That is extraordinary achievement."

That's some big changes in protection of indigenous Cultural Rights that override land tenure!

Recapping UN could mandate Australia to offer 5x First Nation Ambassadors for fair representation!
Each are entitled to blow the same $300,000 annual spend...as any other 140 that Oz appoints.
Dutto's Liberals exempted all DFAT First Nation Teams flogging off Art in as many visits.
Should we ask for the travel / City Art exhibit receipts & what was [L] % take on the exempted heist?

193 nations just voted Justin's First Nation Treaty as a worthy cause...
All but these two...three!
Dutto : "Just Vote No to doing what I don't know what?"
Shadow Indigenous Minister Jacinta : "Ya need to explain how this benefits Indigenous Communities!"
Shock Jock : "193 Nations want to bill us for each word utter...morse code with yer thoughts!"

2025 Dutto & Jacinta address UN : "Everybody just [Vote No] to doing what we don't know what!"
Jacinta is selling $25m Dot2Dot Paintings in the Foyer + I got a shit hot meat tray doin' the rounds!

Which dumbarse Aussie Voted for these Vile Hate filled Dimwits to embarrass us on the World stage!

Footnote: tbb has only introduced First Nation Ambassador, Please not assume this is his only role.
Without any itinerary it easily opens up conjecture to "Aukus Team Play Missions"

Sure Ok! tbb can flip this...If Crew side with Dutto then ask yerself this...
Why not simply ask why Defence Minister > Thanks Justin...coz this dude is not in ALP Security...is he!
Dutto needs only ask the Question..."Is Jetset Justin being groomed into Defence...coz...54321 Kaboom!

Just saying... Defence Minister + Dutto are both as stupid & insecure as each other...well durr!

tbb keeps saying how this shit writes itself...Huh! Why does Richard say thanx Justin...Blow kiss!

Dutto : I Don't know wot he does! (WTFU) Simply read Richard's Love letter on wot he shouldn't do! Ok!

Just shoot me!

Here Dutto... > read here < ...ya fuckin' dumbarse loser Qldurr...isn't tbb a Qldurr...Not now! Press Flush!
https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/transcripts/2024-06-20/press-confere...

southernraw Sunday, 29 Sep 2024 at 7:11pm

A little look back..
The Hilarity and Irony of this drongo at 15min 30 saying 'we do the podcast because it gives us a voice' is worth a listen just for that alone. Also around the 10min mark when he's asked if he'll stand up and boo...met with an awkward silence and a heap of backpedalling. Just wished he'd asked him some proper quesions on invasion and colonialism to see where he went with it.
I don't mind Sam Newman..speaks his mind.. but he's well misguided on this one.
Shame Tony Jones has changed lanes on the topic recently....

truebluebasher Sunday, 29 Sep 2024 at 9:11pm

Good point southernraw...will back that up...this won't take long mate!
The Interviewer should have simply asked what tunes & celebration are appropriate in Sam's Stadiums.

Each time Sam's Footy Team wins he sings to "Toreador" a French Tune of beastly blood lust sacrifice.
Just ask Sam why he swears allegiance to a French Bullfighting Tune?
Better still...ask why he jokes about the Blood Lust Anthem & turns into a Show Tune...that's fucked up!

Ask Sam if it's appropriate to play French Blood Lust Tune thru Aussie Stadium Speakers each Victory?
Is that appropriate to drum up French Blood Lust Sacrifice in an Aussie sporting arena!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0Wek2faE0Ec

Ask Sam : WTF has your devotion to a French Bull Fighting Tune got to do with Australia...you Idiot!

Aussie Welcome to Country has relevance to Australia ...coz we're Aussies not French
Sam's French Le Bullfighting Tune is unaustralian & glorifies Blood Sacrifice!

Ask Sam what we do with foreign French muck that incites Blood Lust > Knock yerself out Champ!

Sam is #1 Aussie Traitor!

tbb motions that a French Blood Lust Anthem should be first to go...
Goes without saying > Aussie Sam would lead the charge for an Aussie AFL tune...
Only! How does Sam share with his beloved Team that they can't sing to French Sacrificial Chant...

Shall we put it to a Vote....

AFL mandate Aussie Ceremony in Aussie Stadiums > Sam's French Blood Lust Anthem has gotta go!

Nope! No one expects Sam to adopt his love of all things Aussie > Sam will defend his French Anthem!
Happy to proven wrong...until that day...
Media + Sam are biggest most cowardly hypocritical Oz traitors of all! Call them out!
Sam is #1 Unaustralian Le Dickhead!

PS : tbb is least offended ...just spinning the bone...all see to Whom it points every single time!
Dump the Act Sam or Dump yer Alien Blood Lust Sacrifice...can't have it both ways you bloody moron!

southernraw Sunday, 29 Sep 2024 at 10:21pm

hahaha sheeesh that video TBB....that nearly turned me into curdled milk!
Le Dickhead probably wouldn't wanna 'take it to the streets' in any towns West of the Great Divide and in the interior.
Still think that's the most appropriate name ever given to a mountain range to describe the social demographic of two sides of the continent.
Cowardly hypocrite indeed,....and he even has the nerve to say he reckons he was the first to ever surf Bells. Throwing out first peoples claims all over the shop!!
Cheers for the laugh TBB!

southernraw Sunday, 29 Sep 2024 at 10:23pm

Bit of a creepo too truth be told...

truebluebasher Friday, 4 Oct 2024 at 8:21pm

Freaky Friday
tbb recently shared Oz Indigenous Croatian Artizans...(Cont...)
Thought we could share Dubravko Lapaine
Released this hour.. new exclusive Friday nite VIP gig for the crew....enjoy!

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truebluebasher Friday, 4 Oct 2024 at 8:49pm

Freaky Friday Flight Night (Sampler!)

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Give us a yell if ya like that sampler...tbb will hook ya up with the Euro guru...
Plenty more where that came from....

udo Tuesday, 8 Oct 2024 at 6:56pm

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 9 Oct 2024 at 1:36pm

Flag of Convenience (Current Order of Merited Value)
eg: Highly prized (taxed) #1 Costs & Flies 65% higher than #6 Piece of Shit! (So say 65% of Aussies)

Notice how the market reflects the will of the people = 65% of Aussies raced to adopt the Watermelon!
Promise : tbb don't make this shit up...
Oz People Voted with their Thongs until 2025 AEC mandated 'Sandals'.

1. Haniyeh / Watermelon (2000) Oz Olympics > 2023 Adopted as preferred Oz Flag
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/anti-israel-demonstrators-m...
2. Zion (1948) adopted (1901) Oz 6 State Star Flag
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1901_Federal_Flag_Design_Competition#/medi...
3. Dhari (1995) TSI Flag Looks rude but it's not!
4. Pride 2018 ( 2017) [Yes] > Authorised by Govt)
5. WAM (1995) Harold's Mobsters @ Wooster And Moore
6. Blue Ensign (1908) 7th Star added for(1905) PNG + Future Oz (1911) territories

Most unloved Flag in the World...2023 Don't Know Vote NO voters > Tore up /Burnt /Spat on all our Flags
Nation cried as endless Oz Flags were desecrated by the Angry Bully Mob from Hell. Burn Burn Burn!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0kE21maAAAzhht.jpg

Pure lame not so evil provocative volatile Antisemitic Thought for the Day
e Harmony envoy warning about to be issued...Hold that Thought.

If Oz kept Original 6 pointed Star of David Flag Design

* Endless Oz Flag Burning replacements would super seed vibrant Watermelon from the top spot!
* Israel would become the 7th State Governed by Australia
* Oz Stem Cities would be complicit in arming Rogue State World Domination (Say wot!) Tick the box.
* Oz Flag adopts 9 pointed star for 7 Rogue Dictator States + 2 Aukus Governed Territories

Australian Flag Song

udo Thursday, 10 Oct 2024 at 3:28pm

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AlfredWallace Thursday, 10 Oct 2024 at 6:40pm

udo wrote:
https://youtu.be/lQVIJeCHbX4?si=YqbufrU1oYYDNzRO

Udo. Good stuff.

Well there you have it folks, straight from the guy who started all. Good on him. Respect. AW

AndyM Friday, 11 Oct 2024 at 9:30am

udo wrote:
https://youtu.be/9uvYZgZMQJM?si=3vETXxn3lt8LeQMl

How can she be called left if she hasn't defined any of her policies??
But yes, very lame that if you utter the word "voice" in a political sense, someone will jump up and say that you're taking advantage of indigenous politics in some sense.

Pop Down Friday, 11 Oct 2024 at 10:08am

Andy

She was Left when voted in as a Labor Senator .

She has gone Rouge and gone Far Left .

As she said , Pauline is on one end and I'm the opposite .

Great work ABC !

Until she comes up with some policies , her vote shouldn't Count , perhaps ?

AlfredWallace Friday, 11 Oct 2024 at 10:22am

Again.
Uncalled for criticism by keyboard warriors, analagous to the skipper of that sunken NZ Navy vessel who has been copping it for being lesbian and a woman commandeering a naval position often held by men.

For fuck sake when will society grow up.

Criticism to Fatima is totally unwarranted, it’s mainly because of her name , her beliefs etc.
Big fucking deal, see the person not the perceptions

At least she’s having a crack and wanting (of which I thoroughly agree ) to hold our major political parties to account.

I applaud her for at least trying, better than looking at a screen , with hurtful trolling remarks.

What’s ever happened to the Oz mantra of ‘everybody deserves a fair go’ regardless of where you come from.

Have we all forgotten. ‘ I am ,You Are, We Are Australian ‘

Think about it. We are spoilt.

AndyM, you are right, she’s not even expelled her policies yet.

Geez Australia can be nasty at times, especially to immigrants. AW

Edit. To highlight the nastiness that exists in our society, read all the comments below that article on YouTube, it’s utterly disgusting.

Pop Down Friday, 11 Oct 2024 at 10:40am

I agree AW , good on Fatima for dropping the Labor Party over the ME War and other things .

Also no problem with her not resigning .

I and other Australians look forward to hearing what her new Policies and beliefs are .

We will vote on them at the next election .

I do have a problem with the Name of her new party .

She might be a Lambie and will keep the bastards honest ?

I hope so !

AlfredWallace Friday, 11 Oct 2024 at 12:38pm

Pop Down wrote:
I agree AW , good on Fatima for dropping the Labor Party over the ME War and other things .

Also no problem with her not resigning .

I and other Australians look forward to hearing what her new Policies and beliefs are .

We will vote on them at the next election .

I do have a problem with the Name of her new party .

She might be a Lambie and will keep the bastards honest ?

I hope so !

PopDown. Hi mate. Luv you pal.

I do hope Fatima and others keeps the bastards honest.

You lay on the table with your underbelly exposed, you always give comment and respect others comments, I don’t always agree with you, but hey that’s the so called democratic society we live in , right.

If we all agreed, they’d start cloning us. We’d become AI Bots.

I applaud you fella for always responding and not hiding behind the veil that shields your voice.

I like your funky way of writing with differing numbers , capitals and hybrid words, removes all elements that bore.
Keep it up.

We can’t have a Swellnet team of boring old farts all peddling out the same shit. AW

udo Friday, 11 Oct 2024 at 9:48pm

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Jelly Flater Friday, 11 Oct 2024 at 10:16pm

- surely wobbly eyes has a google machine in tiktok land ;)
…brisbane waters ain’t brisbane nor is anything egyptian

(kewl story tho)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosford_Glyphs

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/blogs/tim-the-yowie-man/2021/03/...

seeds Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 2:30am

Forreals

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 7:47am

seeds wrote:
Forreals
https://youtu.be/cXAz1En-YGs?si=6-1o_eUfOVaOo4-j

I think they’ve been on the Gympie weed.

As a first time visitor to Gympie a fortnight ago, I couldn’t believe what I was seeing.
I think we will leave it at that.

Now, which hilly street did I leave my tethered horse in ? .AW

truebluebasher Saturday, 12 Oct 2024 at 11:23pm

50 year CLC Anniversary
https://nit.com.au/11-10-2024/14198/exclusive-jacinta-nampijinpa-price-c...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-06/central-land-council-marks-50th-a...
https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=920762290076442&id=100064...

Lib Sen : "Jacinta said to go fetch ALL CLC minutes relating to her Court Case!"
Price : "I need the minutes to fulfil my responsibilities to hold Govt to account by terminating the CLC.
Govt : "We don't possess them, yer able to request CLC minutes directly!"
Govt : "Senate can't oblige any requests on her behalf that interfere in Jacinta's CLC Court Proceedings
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php/?story_fbid=967833242024465&id=10...
https://nit.com.au/28-08-2024/13387/jacinta-nampijinpa-price-calls-for-i...
https://nit.com.au/11-10-2024/14198/exclusive-jacinta-nampijinpa-price-c...

truebluebasher Monday, 14 Oct 2024 at 12:55am

One Year on swellnet Voice Vigil
Reflection & upcoming Anniversary events ~ Keep the Fire Burning
{ apology } Qldurrz are not up to speed > Delayed Review!
Events are not well advertised...gave it a good crack...still got options! Ok!
tbb is happy to share past recent events + what is still available for today & onwards!
Committed to a dedicated swellnet Voice Anniversary...can promise that...still good!

Pretty sure it's another swellnet world / Oz Exclusive...so if ya don't like it...welcome to find another.
...back already, huh!

Coulda shoulda told ya...ain't one Oz Voter left alive that could give a fuckin' shit...all say aye!
Us neutral non voter/s just relegated tbb to mop up yer Hot Mess!
Yes! Please blame tbb for still caring enough! Sorry!

18 Aug Fremantle Arts Centre [ One Year On ]

19th Sept { Voice Matters } Live Webinar
https://www.croakey.org/ahead-of-voice-referendum-anniversary-health-sec...

10th Oct Minister for Indigenous Affairs { Voice Referendum Anniversary }
https://ministers.pmc.gov.au/mccarthy/2024/television-interview-abc-tv-a...

4th / 11th / 12th Oct ( Uluru Statement / Architect Megan Davis ) { Voice Anniversay }
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/04/an-idea-whose-tim...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-11/megan-davis-insiders-on-backgroun...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/11/australias-voice-r...

11 Oct : 2025 Voice Book
https://www.theillawarraflame.com.au/news/referendums-1st-anniversary-pr...

11th Oct Kristie Parker / Reconciliation Australia { Invitation still Stands }
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/11/one-year-on-from-t...

11/12/13th Oct (Co Convener / Aunty Pat Anderson ) { One year on } We have 6.2m New Friends!
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/we-have-6-2-million-new-friends-voic...
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/saturdayextra/one-year-on-from-th...
https://player.fm/series/saturday-extra-separate-stories-podcast/one-yea...

13th Oct Assistant Trade Minister { Reflects on Anniversary of Voice Referendum }

13th Oct Advocates { Mob are still Grieving }
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/13/mob-are-still-gri...
https://www.themandarin.com.au/256967-still-grieving-reflecting-on-the-v...
https://nit.com.au/13-10-2024/14217/still-grieving-reflecting-on-the-voi...

*NSW 13th Oct [ 2:30pm > ] Nowra ~ Welcome > Walking Together > Choir > Q&A > Fireside Chat
[ Sorry ~ Event : SOLD OUT ]
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nowra-community-paves-the-way-f...
https://www.southcoastregister.com.au/story/8790117/still-grieving-refle...

13 Oct : 7:00 pm (Webinar) Uluru Statement from the Heart (Voice Anniversary)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=879561357654701&id=100068025...

13th Oct (Low rural Vote) ABC Menzies Rural Radio 1/1000 Report on Voice = Rural Nullius
That 1 Voice story = Pastoralists & Grazier Convention with 4 Don't Know : Dutto / Wazza
https://michaelwest.com.au/the-voice-referendum-and-abc-country-bias/

13th Oct : Close the Gap { Media Release }
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=931388745702035&set=pcb.93138879903...
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=931388752368701&set=pcb.93138879903...

13th Oct Comedian / Tom Ballard ( Oz Voted No / Shame Tour )~ The Referendum Special

Big Day Events ( Today )

*Qld 14 Oct 2024 : [5:30-6:30 pm] { Cotton Tree Park Vigil } Sunshine Coast
Follow the [YES] Signs ~ BYO Candle / [yes] Shirt
https://www.scrgi.org.au/events/vigil-for-the-first-anniversary-of-the-v...

*WA 14th Oct [3 - 5pm] @ Constitutional Centre { Open House Gathering }
15th Oct [11:00am -12:00pm] Online Briefing : [Place Based Reconciliation Pilot in Great Southern]
https://www.recwa.org.au/event/open-house-gathering-one-year-on-and-stil...
One Year on the Answer is still [YES]
Light Refreshments > Wear [YES] / Uluru Statement from the Heart Shirts
https://nit.com.au/12-10-2024/14190/reconciliationwa-will-hold-a-communi...

* NT (Next Week) One Way tickets for Aboriginal Kids Mars Rover Sleep Over.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/11/nt-government-den...

Upcoming Voice Events...

* (Online) 24th Oct [ AEDT 5:00 - 6:30pm ] Reflections on Voice to Parliament
https://event.on24.com/wcc/r/4703495/1E41DD9A04AE4CFD28D4972ADDAD34E6?pa...

*Vic 27th Oct [1:00pm] Queenscliff Town Hall ($25) One Year On + Path to Reconciliation
https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/events/queenscliffe-literary-festival-r...

If ya still Don't Know > Simply stick yer head outta any window...or press any button / twiddle any dial!
Saturated Voice Blame Game Campaign runs thru to Next Anniversary & on...ya won't miss a thing!

[Disclaimer] This is a Vigil > keep the Fire Burning...one big long continuous happy ending!

indo-dreaming Monday, 14 Oct 2024 at 7:49am

truebluebasher Monday, 14 Oct 2024 at 3:08pm

swellnet drum circle's Voiceless Voice Vigil...keepin' the fire burning
Flames are rising higher & higher...this Voiceless Vigil is gonna make some noise...give'm hell!
Statement from Rock'n'Roll HQ...Let's blow this Gig Sky high!

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A Salty Dog Monday, 14 Oct 2024 at 4:11pm

indo-dreaming wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIq_f5fx98w

OK.

The video by Australian Agenda is just complete unadulterated bullshit. Looking at others they have produced it’s safe to assume they are just another disenfranchised bunch of RWNJ’s.

He missed the fact the Voice was a product of the LNP, fully supported by Labor, who had committed to take it to referendum. Upon election to government, the ALP followed through on the commitment it made.

Upon it’s release, the Voice had overwhelming support, which only declined when the LNP started to white ant it’s own work. Racism only reared it’s ugly head when the LNP branded it “Labor’s Racist Voice”. I suspect Ken Wyatt took that as an insult and had no option but to leave the LP, as did several others. There was ample detail available on the Voice website if you could be bothered to read it. The LNP continued to spread all the lies and division they could muster to the point where it was clear the referendum would fail. Since 2007 the LNP has adopted a stance of opposition to everything and that has now morphed into complete disruption. The Voice was no different but the idiots in the LNP failed to realise they were campaigning against their own proposal. Their actions should come as no surprise but it reeks of hypocrisy. Ultimately, the conduct of the LNP turned the referendum into a political argument, which I suspect is precisely what they wanted.

After decades of failed initiatives, the FNP were requested to set out their desired course of action. They requested formal representation to Parliament via the Voice and for Constitutional recognition for FNP. It was always made clear the Voice itself had no legislative power, it was to report to the Parliament who would then debate and vote on and then implement the recommendations.

The argument of creating division by race is fallacious. WE are the intruders. We came into this country uninvited, and proceeded to dismantle 60,000 years of a peaceful culture and take what we wanted. We made the laws to suit the white man (white man, white law, white gun.) and aggressively enforced them on a culture who found it hard to understand.

Constitutional recognition I see as an acknowledgement of the role of FNP in the history of Australia. That acknowledgement to me is not racist and makes not one scrap of difference to my life.

Being the anniversary of the referendum, it has naturally made news headlines again. Sky News have posted numerous videos on YT for the most part gloating over its failure to pass. Those miserable bastards willfully published misleading information and continue to boast of a No victory.

I have made a number of comments on YT videos, and I am in disbelief at the number of people who still believe the Voice was product of only the ALP. Yet these fools would consider themselves to be making an “informed” decision!

We had an opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, and failed miserably. And now we have the No campaigners complaining nothing is being done, yet they offer no constructive input.

In the 78 years since the end of WW2, the LNP, have governed for 51 years, and the ALP for 27. Yet all the major social, economic and nation building (infrastructure) changes have come under ALP government. Some of their proposed initiatives never materialised and we are paying a heavy price for that now. The LNP, have contributed nothing in that time, and have embarked on a path of frustration and disruption. The Voice is a prime example.

Our political leaders are human and will make mistakes. But in every aspect of life in and of this nation, the ALP are the only party prepared to look to the future and initiate change, while the LNP sit back and congratulate themselves for doing nothing, but in reality, are leading us up the road to nowhere.

AlfredWallace Monday, 14 Oct 2024 at 4:20pm

A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIq_f5fx98w

OK.

The video by Australian Agenda is just complete unadulterated bullshit. Looking at others they have produced it’s safe to assume they are just another disenfranchised bunch of RWNJ’s.

He missed the fact the Voice was a product of the LNP, fully supported by Labor, who had committed to take it to referendum. Upon election to government, the ALP followed through on the commitment it made.

Upon it’s release, the Voice had overwhelming support, which only declined when the LNP started to white ant it’s own work. Racism only reared it’s ugly head when the LNP branded it “Labor’s Racist Voice”. I suspect Ken Wyatt took that as an insult and had no option but to leave the LP, as did several others. There was ample detail available on the Voice website if you could be bothered to read it. The LNP continued to spread all the lies and division they could muster to the point where it was clear the referendum would fail. Since 2007 the LNP has adopted a stance of opposition to everything and that has now morphed into complete disruption. The Voice was no different but the idiots in the LNP failed to realise they were campaigning against their own proposal. Their actions should come as no surprise but it reeks of hypocrisy. Ultimately, the conduct of the LNP turned the referendum into a political argument, which I suspect is precisely what they wanted.

After decades of failed initiatives, the FNP were requested to set out their desired course of action. They requested formal representation to Parliament via the Voice and for Constitutional recognition for FNP. It was always made clear the Voice itself had no legislative power, it was to report to the Parliament who would then debate and vote on and then implement the recommendations.

The argument of creating division by race is fallacious. WE are the intruders. We came into this country uninvited, and proceeded to dismantle 60,000 years of a peaceful culture and take what we wanted. We made the laws to suit the white man (white man, white law, white gun.) and aggressively enforced them on a culture who found it hard to understand.

Constitutional recognition I see as an acknowledgement of the role of FNP in the history of Australia. That acknowledgement to me is not racist and makes not one scrap of difference to my life.

Being the anniversary of the referendum, it has naturally made news headlines again. Sky News have posted numerous videos on YT for the most part gloating over its failure to pass. Those miserable bastards willfully published misleading information and continue to boast of a No victory.

I have made a number of comments on YT videos, and I am in disbelief at the number of people who still believe the Voice was product of only the ALP. Yet these fools would consider themselves to be making an “informed” decision!

We had an opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, and failed miserably. And now we have the No campaigners complaining nothing is being done, yet they offer no constructive input.

In the 78 years since the end of WW2, the LNP, have governed for 51 years, and the ALP for 27. Yet all the major social, economic and nation building (infrastructure) changes have come under ALP government. Some of their proposed initiatives never materialised and we are paying a heavy price for that now. The LNP, have contributed nothing in that time, and have embarked on a path of frustration and disruption. The Voice is a prime example.

Our political leaders are human and will make mistakes. But in every aspect of life in and of this nation, the ALP are the only party prepared to look to the future and initiate change, while the LNP sit back and congratulate themselves for doing nothing, but in reality, are leading us up the road to nowhere.

A Salty Dog. Hi mate .

Beautifully expressed by yourself, I share all those sentiments.

As I recently posted, most of the whining and whinging about this matter comes from a large proportion of non-indigenous people, who in essence place their own selfish concerns and outlooks ahead of the real concerns. Good stuff. AW

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