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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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Hutchy 19 Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 4:43pm

Will look into your books Freeride and Island Bay .

Read Don Quixote earlier in the year which I really enjoyed . I often feel like him on this site . Every one thought he was crazy ( probably is ) . Has noble intentions . Never gives up and never gives in . True Grit ( liked the movie ) . Ha Ha

No Roker - not in that loop .

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D-Rex Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 5:35pm

Kon-Tiki is a terrific read but a warning to sensitive shark huggers - some sharks were harmed by the adventurers during the crossing.

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Hutchy 19 Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 5:40pm

Fliplid - No Company or individual can screw the ATO ( West is taking some poetic licence again ) . They do not like being f..ked over as it sets a terrible precedent . They might try but as you saw they will end up in court . No one has a bigger cheque book for legal fees including BHP and Chevron .

Their are way too many loop holes ( esp for foreign companies ) and big companies will push the boundaries to test their strength . The ATO has a big stick and is not happy if ANYONE over steps the mark . Some of the existing rules should be changed as companies and individuals will happily screw us legally if they can .

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Supafreak Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 6:37pm

I was wondering what the media would have to talk about once covid died down and by the looks of this clip it’s going to be a doozy of an election. CK outlays what the UAP is about , the issues it wants to tackle and the type of people who will be running for seats .

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Island Bay Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 6:48pm
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Kon-Tiki is a terrific read but a warning to sensitive shark huggers - some sharks were harmed by the adventurers during the crossing.

Kon-Tiki is incredible! I read it as a kid, loved it, and pored over maps of South America and the Pacific. Have read it a million times since, and I have a very nice leather-bound copy of it.
Talk about embracing risk and being a total badass.

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Hutchy 19 Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 7:09pm

Maybe a good idea for a thread . Would love to try and contribute to something less controversial .
With my ability though it probably would eventually get that way . Would like to hear peoples favourite book/s . Mine is Collen McCulloch's Caesar .

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goofyfoot Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 7:31pm
Hutchy 19 wrote:

Maybe a good idea for a thread . Would love to try and contribute to something less controversial .
With my ability though it probably would eventually get that way . Would like to hear peoples favourite book/s . Mine is Collen McCulloch's Caesar .

I think there is one already mate

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GuySmiley Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 8:25pm
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D-Rex wrote:

Kon-Tiki is a terrific read but a warning to sensitive shark huggers - some sharks were harmed by the adventurers during the crossing.

Kon-Tiki is incredible! I read it as a kid, loved it, and pored over maps of South America and the Pacific. Have read it a million times since, and I have a very nice leather-bound copy of it.
Talk about embracing risk and being a total badass.

Likewise Island Bay, I have a 10th impression copy (1951)

I absolutely love this page in the book often reading it to lift my spirits .....

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soggydog Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 9:07pm

Who are these people like me Hutchy, where do they hang out. Besides in your mind?

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Island Bay Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 5:15am
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Island Bay wrote:
D-Rex wrote:

Kon-Tiki is a terrific read but a warning to sensitive shark huggers - some sharks were harmed by the adventurers during the crossing.

Kon-Tiki is incredible! I read it as a kid, loved it, and pored over maps of South America and the Pacific. Have read it a million times since, and I have a very nice leather-bound copy of it.
Talk about embracing risk and being a total badass.

Likewise Island Bay, I have a 10th impression copy (1951)

I absolutely love this page in the book often reading it to lift my spirits .....

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Yes, that is beautiful, isn't it.

Reminds me of an interview I saw maybe 30 years ago. A Danish sparky had retired age 65, and realised he'd never done anything even remotely interesting or adventurous, so he bought a 24ft yacht and sailed around the world.
When asked what the biggest hardships of the voyage were, he said "Casting off for the first time, and tacking up through The Red Sea".
Otherwise things just happened naturally.

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D-Rex Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 9:19am

A few commentators here could do well to heed the line 'To us on the raft the great problems of civilised man proved false and illusory, mere perverted products of the human mind'. What also interests is that the description of peoples encountered were honest and actions taken were practical - no agonising over racist language or killing of predators in those days.

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Hutchy 19 Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 9:26am

Rex 'To us on the raft the great problems of civilised man proved false and illusory, mere perverted products of the human mind'

A wonderful sentence which I will reflect on today .

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Hutchy 19 Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 9:37am

“When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? Perhaps to be too practical is madness. To surrender dreams — this may be madness. Too much sanity may be madness — and maddest of all: to see life as it is, and not as it should be!”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 3:27pm

Kevin 07 telling it how it is , Scotty from marketing has some homework to do .

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 4:17pm

He is like a turd you cant flush away, always popping back up wanting some attention again.

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Blowin Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 4:30pm

Kevin was a cock in 07.

Yeah Kev …..open up the domestic housing market to foreign investors you stupid cnt. Awesome idea bloke. What could go wrong?

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 5:23pm

@blowin , don’t want to ruin your satdy , did you view the informer link ? Scroll up a bit if you wanna av a look .

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 8:02pm

Be nice to see this Australian made vaccine supported by our government, the doctors views on the current group running the show are also interesting .

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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 8:13pm

Superfreak, the YouTube resurcher is at it again
Forget the fact that the Doherty Institute has an outstanding reputation and they have been very accurate all through this covid pandemic, superfreak has found something on YouTube.
Where's that facepalm gif when you need it?

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 8:21pm

You didn’t even watch it Dr Dick , you never got past the title , if you had you would have seen that was only a small part of what the professor was talking about.

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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 8:46pm

Of course I didn't watch it. I took one look at the headline on that video and knew straight away it was just junk.
"A New Voice, the informer, uncovering the truth" FFS.
Fair dinkum superfreak, your sources are a fucking joke. It's just one batshit crazy video after another. Start quoting peer reviewed university studies or findings from credible medical research institution and I might take you seriously.
Doctor shopping on You Tube is just pathetic.

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 8:56pm

Hahahaha you total idiot, I knew you hadn’t looked and anyone else that does will see what a joke you are when they see who’s being interviewed. Dr Dick go in the mirror and give yourself an uppercut.

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 8:59pm
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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 9:43pm

OK superfreak, Happy to say I got that wrong and some interesting points were raised. I'm actually comfortable with the Doherty Institute's modelling. I'm just not comfortable with Scumo's interpretation of the modelling.
If NSW starts significantly opening up after 70% of adults (low 60% of all Australians) and thousands of new cases daily, it will be a disaster. Seen what is happening in England? 24,000 new cases and 100 deaths a day which is 9% up on the 7 day average from a week ago. And that's at 78% double dose tax rate.
Scumo is going to call a November election. This cunt will time it just after restrictions are relaxed and before everything turns to shit.
BTW, that SA vaccine is 2 years behind multiple, effective, safe, and fully approved vaccines.

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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 9:48pm

Holy shit-balls GS.
The ACL are next level scumbags.
They are literally on the grift, knowing their advice is likely to kill off a bunch of their donors.

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 9:54pm

You need to read the flinders link , the current vaccines aren’t stopping transmissions, Pfizer isn’t performing as well as hoped . Oxford studies shows Pfizer vaccine needs boosters after 4 months of second jab . What’s the government going to do ? Give twice yearly jabs ? Again scumo has put all his eggs in one basket . Open debate is needed from other experts who aren’t on the government payroll .

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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 10:10pm

" from other experts who aren’t on the government payroll ."
You were making sense for a while until that finishing comment. Do you really think medical research works that way? No university tolerates medical research tainted by government money. Any academic / doctor / professor doctoring research for a government approved conclusion would be dismissed instantly and would never work again due to a shredded credibility.

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 10:24pm

Doctors who work in the field of research and treatment of covid patients should have open debate with the government health experts calling the shots. If you don’t agree ……. fine

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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 10:36pm

There is open debate. Just because the vast majority of experts are not jumping on your ivermectin bandwagon doesn’t mean people are being silenced. Same too with vaccines.
The big problem is scumo and Gladys are making decisions based on their earlier anti lockdown spin and not listening to the credible experts. One thing this pandemic has done is expose the bullshit artists like trump, bolsanaro, Johnson, Kelly , Palmer and scumo.

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 10:44pm

An old post that no doubt you won’t read WASHINGTON, D.C. - Peer reviewed by medical experts that included three U.S. government senior scientists and published in the American Journal of Therapeutics, the research is the most comprehensive review of the available data taken from clinical, in vitro, animal, and real-world studies. Led by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a group of medical and scientific experts reviewed published peer-reviewed studies, manuscripts, expert meta-analyses, and epidemiological analyses of regions with ivermectin distribution efforts all showing that ivermectin is an effective prophylaxis and treatment for COVID-19. https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/666564

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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 10:56pm

There you go sup a freak. Back down the rabbit hole. Tell us again why doctors, governments, and the medical insurance industry would actively block a cheap, effective and readily available treatment for covid. It’s a hell of a conspiracy, or maybe, just maybe, there’s insufficient evidence that ivermectin works.
But hey, Clive Palmer and Craig Kelly are on board.

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Supafreak Saturday, 28 Aug 2021 at 11:11pm

There ya go again Dr Dick , you got nothing.

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blackers Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 10:12am
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saltyone Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 10:24am

Doctors can’t back a drug when the pharmaceutical companies are funded by people with vested interest in vaccines. All about $$$. Even if the drug works.

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Supafreak Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 10:24am

@blackers , here’s a response from FLCCC and BIRD , https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/FLCCC-BIRD-Gu...

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saltyone Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 10:28am

The time the Sa Vax is taking to get through trials is on par with many others that are taking the normal timeframe for a v to safely trial -a few years .

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Vic Local Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 10:51am
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There ya go again Dr Dick , you got nothing.

Except for holding Covid opinions that are consistent with the vast majority of experts in the field.

Here's the difference between you and me supafreak. I put my faith in experts who have studied these matters in a professional environment for decades. I trust people and groups like the Doherty Institute and Norman Swan who have been very accurate all pandemic.

You on the other hand go doctor shopping on social media, because you think you are smarter than the vast majority of experts.

But keep resurching supafreak.

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Supafreak Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 11:03am

Dr Dick , I put my faith in doctors who are actually treating patients , what’s your explanation for India ? A country that had a quick decline in cases and deaths once governments in certain states gave out medicine packages which included ivermectin. Same for Mexico and various other countries around the world. 7-C359-BDB-A618-4-AC0-A50-B-791-A63-FB970-D

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Supafreak Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 11:05am
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blackers Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 1:15pm

Hi Super, I am aware of that response, it is in part referred to in the Nature article I posted, but thanks for sharing. The point is, and has always been, things are not always clear cut. The Nature article just points out that there have been issues with some of the research published to date, so conclusions based on these can be expected to be challenged. Anyways, have a good day.

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Supafreak Sunday, 29 Aug 2021 at 4:24pm

Your absolutely correct blackers , things aren’t always clear cut , yet the TGA authorised remdesivir after 4 trials yet evidence on it’s efficacy is highly questionable. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2021/01/31/remdesivir-covid-coron... There are other articles I’ve posted before on other thread . Thank you also for your contribution and I respect your input .

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Blowin Monday, 30 Aug 2021 at 2:06pm

This is the second in charge in NSW politics. Think about that for a second.

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stunet Monday, 30 Aug 2021 at 2:21pm

Don't really like his style, but FJ is doing an incredible job pointing out how power gets abused by the powerful. Between this story and his Murray Darling water rights reveal he's uncovering abuses of power that simply wouldn't have been tolerated a generation ago, back when the media would latch on and collectively tell a story, investigating from all angles, forcing leaders to act.

Now it's an ex-Chadwick's model with a smart mouth and a tonne of chutzpah doing what the MSM won't.

The other thing to consider is all his recent work has been heavily vetted by lawyers so it can't be accused of sensationalism or overreach.

More power to him.

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Blowin Monday, 30 Aug 2021 at 2:33pm

Not to mention that he received over $1M from crowd support to legally fight that shitbag. When was the last time you heard of the rank and file punters contributing $1M to any of the major parties?

It’s an even greater indictment on the state of Australian media that they are willing to ignore the groundswell of public disgust at political corruption illustrated by the FJ donations and vlog popularity. It tells a story of why the media exists. It can’t be definitively stated that the Australian media exists primarily to turn a profit peddling stories to the public. The value of providing propaganda for the main game appears to outweigh anything else now.

And that’s why Kerry Stokes, Gina Rheinhard, Jeff Bezos etc all got into the media business or at least tried.

The fact that this dirt about Barillaro isn’t dominating headlines in NSW says all you need to know. The media will only drop the hammer when those in charge deem Barillaro to have reached his expiry date.

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Hutchy 19 Monday, 30 Aug 2021 at 3:45pm

Blowin - I am not sure I agree ?

"It’s an even greater indictment on the state of Australian media that they are willing to ignore the groundswell of public disgust at political corruption illustrated by the FJ donations and vlog popularity. It tells a story of why the media exists. It can’t be definitively stated that the Australian media exists primarily to turn a profit peddling stories to the public. The value of providing propaganda for the main game appears to outweigh anything else now.

There must be some reason why we taxpayers pay for the ABC and SBS ?

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GuySmiley Monday, 30 Aug 2021 at 6:18pm

Today’s Murdoch’s papers Melbourne and Sydney ...

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indo-dreaming Monday, 30 Aug 2021 at 7:05pm
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Today’s Murdoch’s papers Melbourne and Sydney ...

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Obviously it's just some crappy meme that you have come across on social media, but really if you actually want to prove what you think you are proving (which your not doing a very good job at), you need to put all Murdoch media newspaper front page, side by side for let's say a month and see what you come up with.

Im betting it would be a mix and there would be other days and times where you could turn the table.

Come on Guy, we don't agree on much, but you aren't stupid you know its just cheap cherry picking for social media clicks.