The United States(!) of A
Or maybe he is just trying to turn this into a profitable business? What an outrageous idea…
Maybe if Elon buys swellnet he’ll let the censored back on so anyone who dares comment can get called ‘bloke’ again ;);)
…. And
….getting back to the mighty United States(!) of A
- I wonder how the continued crusade of actively meddling in the internal affairs of other sovereign countries is going ?
I mean… it’s ok if it’s called an ‘intervention’… ;);)
Has the US has ever considered the actual welfare and wishes of the populations of the countries they invade and occupy ? Is it possible to wonder that the aim may not actually be about freedom or liberty but, more so, about power and control ? Not so sure whether standards of living for the general populations of countries in which the US has ‘intervened’ have actually improved ;)
Can you ‘create’ democracy through force ? Will it help unify and benefit humanity or further inflame relations and fuel resentment and hatred towards the west ?
Has it ever been any other way ;)
The four minute mark provides some proper sobering views from the people of Haiti :
https://m.
Hey JF, we're at the stage where if one great power chooses not to meddle, the resulting vacuum will be filled by another great power. Sucks, but that's what it is.
Back to Trump and a prospective 2nd term, these two lengthy articles were pretty good, schedule F would be like what Elon is doing:
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/23/donald-trump-news-schedule-f-executive-...
Feels like a Rubicon has already been crossed there, but this would be crossing a Rubicon again.
No wonder Twitter employees are spewing, sounds like a pretty good gig if you can get it.
At least being able to work those fancy coffee machines should lead to future employment.
There seems to be plenty of fat to trim in that business.
Looks like a holiday in a building.
Supafreak wrote:https://www.axios.com/2022/11/04/trump-presidential-run-2024-announcement
Im surprised he is even considering running again, i dont think he has a chance now it seemed more like a once off shake up, you wouldn't think he would risk losing again his ego will be shattered.
Personally id much rather Ron DeSantis, younger 44 and he seems to have some, positive aspects of Trump (anti woke), but much smarter and not a loose cannon.
Kayleigh McEnany would make a good republican president if she ever nominated.
I don’t know about Kayleigh’s capacity to be the president but she is definitely a top performer. Always ultra prepared, amazing in handling the pressure and so good in bullshitting when needed. All politics aside, I watched her press conferences and I was always impressed with her PR skills. She can get a good job anywhere she wants.
Supafreak wrote:Shared this on another thread but think it was quickly lost in different topic , the link is 4 corners on Monday night just gone , anyone catch it ? @etarip , I would be interested to read your take on this . https://iview.abc.net.au/show/four-corners/series/2022/video/NC2203H037S00
Hey Supa, I’ll have a look at it when I get some clear air. A few mates were chatting about it last week.
There’s a Strategic Review into Defence posture at the moment. Some really complex and far-reaching decisions need to be made about what Australia needs to prioritise, what it needs to discard. Potentially some big shifts, with Army likely to be the big ‘loser’ compared to RAAF and RAN. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is part of the government’s information campaign if they already have a sense of what’s in that review.
Odds of China making a move on Taiwan in next 12 months would seem pretty high. If not now, when would be better timing for them?
A blockade maybe as Plan A to place the onus on the US to respond. But even that has many consequences worldwide and so much potential for escalation (Pine Gap would be in the crosshairs early on even in a more conventional war scenario).
Perhaps the Four Corners story of how ready and tough the US is will scare them off... or the new Submarines in 2040.
Overall though Taiwan is just part of the geopolitical tussle going on for long term dominance and / or of players pursuing various versions of new world orders. But plenty of determination on both sides to make some big moves means trouble ahead.
US is not the only Western player either - the UK / old European power elite have their own plans as well for the Asian continent that mostly align with the US but not always (especially not in the financial power wrestle).
Unintended consequences abound.
US Election: the voting machines are playing up again:
BREAKING: Reports out of Maricopa county of Machines “not working” and ballots being “misread”
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) November 8, 2022
WHAT IS GOING ON?
pic.twitter.com/lkd0YXegXZ
Paper and pen ftw, and for transparency and integrity, as well.
Some classic feedback on this post , truth social must be a blast .
In fact, I did not. pic.twitter.com/SWLWIVzpzi
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) November 9, 2022
A real quote from Donald Trump about tonight’s results:
— Matt Wilstein (@mattwilstein) November 8, 2022
"Well, I think if they win, I should get all the credit. If they lose, I should not be blamed at all."
pic.twitter.com/u0O8yWfCoE
Good to see Ron DeSantis re elected with a strong win, should help his chances of running for president in 2024, only issue is Trump.
indo-dreaming wrote:Good to see Ron DeSantis re elected with a strong win, should help his chances of running for president in 2024, only issue is Trump.
He could actually get the nod over Trump
. I see some of the Dems are saying they need to get behind Harris. She is so hopeless it would hand the win to the Republicans.
Results are definitely within margins of the major pollsters - not a major upset one way or another, but Dems doing better than they hoped.
Lots of results will go to the wire. Certainly no red wave.
What is reassuring is that the vast majority of concessions have been gracious and have explicitly stated that the election was fair.
indo-dreaming wrote:Good to see Ron DeSantis re elected with a strong win, should help his chances of running for president in 2024, only issue is Trump.
don't reckon trump much of an issue, his time is up... plus, saw an author that wrote his biography, she was on the money saying his heart isn't in it like before - not that he expected to win it before - he was just a very purposeful disruptor...
he's served his role
desantis with a trump agenda... now there's a force to be reckoned with...
(many people (most even...) agree with trump agenda, they just cannot stand the man)
". I see some of the Dems are saying they need to get behind Harris. She is so hopeless it would hand the win to the Republicans."
how fucking absolutely hopeless is harris?
I thought she might be good before i actually saw her operate... she's a trainwreck... some diodes aren't connecting up top
biggest take away from election is neither party has the capacity (or the will) to appeal to the norms...
it's partisan nutterville all around
a landslide winning recipe is so patently obvious to normal people... yet neither party has shown any ability, or any willingness, to even remotely go there... for six years or more now!
its all just very strange
thank the gods australian politics toned it down the nuttyness... rather than doing the usual mirroring of the US lead...
DeSantis winning is a plus for Dems. Sets up a damaging battle with Trump, Florida looking out of step with the rest of the country, not sure his popularity there will extend to other states, depends on how he performs as GOP front runner, as Trump looks finished after these mid terms. He will run because there is more $ to make, but Trump won't get the support like last time. My opinion is Biden comes out looking pretty good, best mid term result for a sitting President since ?, may still lose house and senate but nearly even when normally they lose plenty of seats. Not that he doesn't have shortcomings, Harris too, but the red wave never came, big turnout of younger voters went blue. American politics is like watching a car crash these days, you know it's bad but can't stop watching. As for Sypkan's "thank the gods australian politics toned it down the nuttyness..." , you ever watch Sky After Dark or read the Murdoch papers?
Russians withdrawing from the right (North / West) bank of the Dniepr, including from Kherson city itself, according to Russian MoD. This is a significant moment - but has been coming a while.
A Russian defensive line behind the Dniepr may be more feasible and free up some of the 40K troops currently north of the river - if they can get them across the limited number of bridges, which are all under some type of fire from Ukrainian artillery or rocket fire. Ugly. Russia aiming to establish a viable defence ahead of winter and aim to reset and replenish their fatigued forces with a view to retaking the broader offensive in 2023.
Still on the offensive in the East, with expensive minuscule successes.
Hail Mary Russian hopes for a MAGA Republican dominated Congress have not been realised. US support to Ukraine likely to continue, and be bipartisan. Meanwhile, China has publicly rejected Putin’s nuclear posturing, undermining his credibility. I’d guess that Xi’s messages in private would have been more definitive.
adam12, yup. Final results pending. It looks like Biden’s going to end up with the best mid-terms. I think GOP candidates were just on the nose for a lot of voters and Trump endorsements were more a turnoff for many.
Again, a few close races that might see Trumpites scrape across the line (Boebert in CO and Walker in GA), but the red wave was hype. Spot on about voter demographics too.
No word on MSM getting the polling wrong?
I suspect the middle ground in the USA don't like Biden / Harris or the state of the nation. Nor would they identify with the MAGA crowd or their candidates.
They were left with no broad appealing option to swing one way or the other or to protest vote. In the end, they probably voted at a local level based on the candidate avoiding the worst of the extremes on either side. This would produce a bunch of coin flips setting the trends rather than a clear national direction.
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I thought pollsters had a good day. I don't watch the news so I don't know what was hyped but the analysis on 538 had it spot on for weeks. Republicans were favored to win the house while Democrats were favored to retain the senate (this slightly tilted to Republicans in the last week or so but in any case, the call was on a tight race).
It's good to see extremists being punished on all sides of the equation. That's what makes me happy, the fewer extremists the better.
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frog wrote:I suspect the middle ground in the USA don't like Biden / Harris or the state of the nation. Nor would they identify with the MAGA crowd or their candidates.
They were left with no broad appealing option to swing one way or the other or to protest vote. In the end, they probably voted at a local level based on the candidate avoiding the worst of the extremes on either side. This would produce a bunch of coin flips setting the trends rather than a clear national direction.
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Fair assessment, the alternative outcome was these probably didn't even bother. I heard someone from POLITICO speaking about the numbers yesterday; 47% rusted on red and 47%blue, the 6% genuine swing voters determine the outcome.
American political strategists asking themselves: "How can I appeal to swingers?"
Bigger fruit bowl for the couples to put their keys in VJ.
velocityjohnno wrote:American political strategists asking themselves: "How can I appeal to swingers?"
Just talk to Trump, he's got the experience.
Mid Term abortions (May or not include the Tabulator's Temper Tantrum)
2020 ( 68 Pre Ballot Day Legal Cases )
2022 ( 120 Pre Ballot Day Legal Cases ) Over half restrict access to the ballot + Absentees / Extensions
[fact checker] Fair Election is locked in @ 99.99% & rising fast...
"DELAY" (2022 Election Rort Theme)
2022 Polling Day ( Suspected Voter Fraud )
Seems easy enough to claim a concerted campaign delayed early votes to extend late votes.
Mostly as all issues could've of & should've been tested before the day...(Perhaps that's the problem!)
If crew believe that impacts on certain trades / office workers of political persuasion?
100% non biased tbb is merely acting as yer swellnet Mid Term [Factcheck] scrutineer.
Sure! Lets give the [fact checkers] more limelight to hog...coz it's important to fuel their ego!
Firstly! Factcheckers are Experts & they claim every suss incident is isolated with no intent
That's fine...but they never once explain why all officials keep hanging themselves with same rope!
Nor do they seem to care that all these events impact the very start of Polling Day to corrupt the result.
Racial Voter Intimidation / Violence
Texas : Decline Help / Wotz yer Name Boy...Speak Up! / Hover over Ballot
Wisconsin : Knife wielding political man demanded a halt to the vote ( Booth was out for an hour!)
Michigan : GOP K Karamo : "Fraud & crime as voters were falsely told they'd already voted absentee!"
1.7m of requested 2m absentee votes were submitted
Arizona : From the start 20% of Tabulation machines are rejecting Ballots > Officials : "Use the Box!"
New Jersey : Voting / Tabulating Machines > Not Working > Vote Manual > "Use the Box!"
*Inside word is the Ink was too feint for machines to register > Took all day to figure it out?
Wisconsin : Oops! Accidental bumping > unplugged the Tabulator. (Bummer!)
Time Delays > Extensions
Pennsylvania : Paper Ballot shortage > Required [P] Ballot Forms extending voting until 10pm
N Carolina : 3 precincts early Lock out > open late > Also uses [P] Ballots to Close 1 hour Later 8:30pm
Georgia : 2 precincts "Late Opening" > Judge : "Hours were extended."
(Georgia) Social Media Vid' on the day > ID's GOP Ma & Son boothers were at 6 Jan Rally! (Bye Bye!)
Computer Says [ Vote NO ] Possibly involves Tabulators as one system...(As above)
Detroit : e-polls down (re: Tabulator also!)
Michigan : e-polls down..."
Illinois : Cyber Attack on Voter Rego
Texas : 20% of Voter rego Machines were still offline > 2 hrs into the day.
Philadelphia : Voter ID knocks out 2/3 of electorate 120k (So far) / 350k (2020)
(Uni degree needed for Multi Level ID / Envelope criteria) 3,400 Mail in Ballots risk being Rejected
Plenty launch lawsuits against bullshit matching dated countersigned Stationary Sets...(Same as 2020)
As tbb shows > Concerted effort to knock out early keen Poll Day Voters to reward Lazy Voters.
Too much of a coincidence...(Either Party could suss this & enquire if 'Time delay' was intentional?)
Factcheckers are too stupid to trip over the obvious Sleepy Joe "DELAY" theme so can't rule it in or out.
Media claim that less will revolt in Mid Term non Leader changing poll.
Stats indicate it may once again be restricted to like minded machines linked to set opening hour timer.
Might pay to run a check over Contracts/IT/Brands with aligned malfunctions. (Should sort it real fast!)
Money for Jam > stalls opening hour early bird voters to reward late timer big city hours folk.
tbb puts it this way...
If yer typical biased [Factchecker] Rubber stamps this...then you'd wanna Factcheck yer Factchecker.
Any democracy accepting this piss poor dodgy statewide late opening to polling day is on the take!
No harm in asking the question as to widespread united perfectly timed polling day delays.
Quite obviously the Tabulators are up the shit, can only result in a more fair start to Election Day
8th Nov Trump : "Same thing is happening with Voter Fraud as happened in 2020 ???"
tbb credits CNN site for long list of Voter issues shown above.
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/midterm-election-results-live...
Aussie News Vid is not half bad at covering the Fraud claims.
" ...... Putin’s nuclear posturing, undermining his credibility. I’d guess that Xi’s messages in private would have been more definitive."
Putin's nuclear posturing? Putin and Russian leaders have said very little on this subject beyond periodically referring to long established and written Principles on Nuclear Deterrence that apply to past and current circumstances.
99% of the talk on nuclear has been US / Western media, politicians, the Ukraine, carefully selected current and retired US generals hyping up the fear and rhetoric for various purposes:
- to keep the funds and weapons rolling in, Congress acquiescent and even the left quiet and supportive of more endless war and military spending
- to, it often seems, mentally prepare the public for a western nuclear response to whatever they see as a suitable mysterious red line of their choosing- to normalise the concept to the Western public of what used to be talked of carefully and in measured terms before this year only as "the unthinkable" on both sides.
- maybe to discourage Russia from major conventional offensives by allowing US generals to talk a big nuclear response game out loud. It is hard for them to hide their excitement at the prospect sometimes - some would just love to let it all loose it seems. I don't get that sense of desire and excitement from Russia.Grim faced, joyless, sober conventional war seems to be their chosen task. A sad situation, but maybe not as dangerous as having excited US politicians, generals and spooky MI6 007 style plotters in the thick of it.
If someone could count the times the word "nuclear" was used on western TV by leaders, "experts" and talking heads it would be thousands of times more than Putin has even said the word or hinted at such actions.
Who is really doing most of the nuclear posturing?
AndyM wrote:Bigger fruit bowl for the couples to put their keys in VJ.
Was told it was the placing of a pineapple picture on the cabin door in a cruise ship, ah, secret codes
sypkan wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Good to see Ron DeSantis re elected with a strong win, should help his chances of running for president in 2024, only issue is Trump.
don't reckon trump much of an issue, his time is up... plus, saw an author that wrote his biography, she was on the money saying his heart isn't in it like before - not that he expected to win it before - he was just a very purposeful disruptor...
he's served his role
desantis with a trump agenda... now there's a force to be reckoned with...
(many people (most even...) agree with trump agenda, they just cannot stand the man)
While i agree with most of this and Trump's time should be up and it would be terrible if he ran again for Republicans as will never win again, he has also kinda threatened Ron DeSantis.
"Donald Trump has warned Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis against running for president in 2024, saying doing so would harm the Republican Party."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63563862
After these mid terms any normal person would now get the message his time is up and also see Ron DeSantis is the Republicans best chance and just support him, but Trump aint a normal person, so it would be terrible if he made it between him and Ron DeSantis which would turn many Trump voters against Ron DeSantis.
The only hope is Trump knows he will lose and then doesn't run to save face, but he just isn't good with dealing with reality in his head he probably still thinks he is a shoe in, so i guess we just wait and see.
Frog, have you personally read much / any Soviet and Russian nuclear deterrence doctrine?
Have you personally watched or read speeches from RT or Russian diplomats? Or Putin’s speeches?
I’ve posted a couple of links to articles / papers on the first (including one specifically on the evolution of Russian nuclear deterrence, quoting published russian doctrine) and I’ve posted links to multiple RT programs that speak directly to nuclear threats.
Either way, I think you’ve missed my point. I don’t think Russia intended to use nuclear weapons. There’s very little militarily that could be gained by doing so. And it would have been a point of no-return moment diplomatically.
But they certainly wanted Ukraine and the west to think that they were prepared to. There’s been multiple occasions where this threat has been explicitly stated or implied.
Which are then walked back, or ‘clarified’.
Which is central to ‘coercion’ of Ukraine and ‘deterrence’ of western actions in support of Ukraine. The significance of Xi’s statement is that it undermined this bluff, this ploy, this ambiguity.
No one wants nuclear war.
Ron DeSantis' victory in Florida
I remember seeing a program on Florida's unique age/cultural/economic/political blah blah demographics leading up to Trump's election. In short, older/white/wealthier/more conservative on average than most of the US and highest number of citizens willingly locking themselves up in gated communities. The closest to Florida we would have here in AU perhaps would be select parts of FNQ. Now if this program I saw presented an accurate picture of the fine citizens of Florida and how out of whack they are to the rest of the US how electable is their man when it comes to presidential nomination for the Good Ole Boys Reactionary Party and ultimately the presidency?
Etarip,
I have briefly read a bit here and there on what you mention. Enough to form some impressions but not enough to debate if I was so inclined.
I agree with you that " I don’t think Russia intended to use nuclear weapons. There’s very little militarily that could be gained by doing so." and suspect the rational strategists is the West would too.
Given that I am continually surprised by the endless stream of "Russia nuclear threat" "Putin nuclear" "will Putin use... " references in most mentions of the war flowing through all western media and from "experts"..
Grabbing eyeballs and clicks may be all it is.. But the level of nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, feels like fanning the flames, almost wishful 'bring it on" thinking on the part of some and agendas at work. It makes Putin sound measured and rational and the west sound not so.
At the very least it is just tiresome. Much more important analysis could be offered.
An interesting conundrum for Russian media
Russian TV host Andrei Norkin's realisation that his country lacks freedom of speech:
If I back the decision to withdraw from Kherson, I'm going to jail for questioning Russia's territorial integrity
And if I oppose it, I'm going to jail for discrediting the armed forces pic.twitter.com/KRj0RsI00i— Francis Scarr (@francis_scarr) November 10, 2022
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GuySmiley wrote:Ron DeSantis' victory in Florida
I remember seeing a program on Florida's unique age/cultural/economic/political blah blah demographics leading up to Trump's election. In short, older/white/wealthier/more conservative on average than most of the US and highest number of citizens willingly locking themselves up in gated communities. The closest to Florida we would have here in AU perhaps would be select parts of FNQ. Now if this program I saw presented an accurate picture of the fine citizens of Florida and how out of whack they are to the rest of the US how electable is their man when it comes to presidential nomination for the Good Ole Boys Reactionary Party and ultimately the presidency?
Nobody would ever think Trump and Biden would become presidents both old men in their 70s, Trump is a true narcissist and unpredictable Biden clearly has cognitive decline and not a stretch to suggest borderline senile, so anything is possible.
Florida in comparison to Australia would be more like the Sunshine coast to Hervey bay region a retiree coastal hotspot it's also traditionally been more of a Democrat state, places like Texas are more like far North QLD
Personally i think Ron DeSantis' could have a very broad appeal in many age groups as although he has proven popular in a state with an older demographic he is also only young currently only 44 so will be about 46 around the election.
I think being young helps him appeal to younger people too, but unlike many young people he is still a strong figure and a true leader, so not a young walk over or perceived as weak.
For example he has a Navy background and was a Lieutenant and then a legal advisor to Navy seals and even served in IRAQ
He is also very smart and well educated graduating from Hale and Harvard.
But he also takes an anti woke, familys value, blue collar worker type stance.
To me he takes the best aspects of Trump but without the over the top reckless unpredictable all about me aspect.
If Trump backed him he would be supported by pretty much all Republican voters and you could imagine would appeal to many swing voters young and old, and that's all you need.
The worry is Trump makes it about him V's Ron DeSantis which means Trump could turn his own fans against him, if this is the case it might be smarter for Ron to keep Trump happy and let him have one last shot(and lose) and then wait until 2028 where he will still only be about 50(only help him) but with more political experience under his belt.
BTW. I think this also helps to appeal to a broad demographic too, the whole family man, and not a bad looking guy with a good looking wife(former TV news host), all boxes ticked..
Even his surname and family background (Italian) doesn't hurt, not overly white so gives him a multicultural twist.
BTW. Just reading a bit more about him i think there is many other aspects the would appeal to most people for example.
"After active-duty service, Governor DeSantis served as a federal prosecutor where he targeted and convicted child predators."
"While serving in Congress, he refused his Congressional pension and health insurance plan because he is against special deals for politicians.
He also sponsored legislation to make it easier for the military to prosecute sexual assault and authored the bill to end the secret taxpayer-funded slush fund for members of Congress to make hush payoffs for sexual harassment."
https://www.floridagovernorsmansion.com/the_people_s_house/current_resid...
If DeSantis is that good a man/candidate why wouldn’t the Good Ole Boys Reactionary Party tell Trump to fuck off now assuming of course it has any true democratic/political values left after decades of far right accommodation/assault.
Murdoch is turning on Trump. A Trumpty Dumpty cartoon image on the New York Post. Sign of the times. Murdoch likes to think he is kingmaker and destroyer. He has sniffed the winds of change.
frog wrote:Murdoch is turning on Trump. A Trumpty Dumpty cartoon image on the New York Post. Sign of the times. Murdoch likes to think he is kingmaker and destroyer. He has sniffed the winds of change.
Murdoch is a power broker. By no means is he the only one. It's good if he sniffed the winds of change and decided to throw Trump under the bus. It's time to move on.
So what will become of trump ? Endless court cases and his golf handicap blowing right out .
GuySmiley wrote:If DeSantis is that good a man/candidate why wouldn’t the Good Ole Boys Reactionary Party tell Trump to fuck off now assuming of course it has any true democratic/political values left after decades of far right accommodation/assault.
I guess we have to wait and see what happens and how it all plays out, but obviously in politics you have factions and different views, and Trump also has many passionate supporters so I'm guessing the party would rather him just bow out and not run rather than than tell him to fuck off or create a Trump v's Desantis divide.
The ideal situation would be Trump doesn't run and supports Desantis running and Trump fans jump on the Desantis train rather than it getting messy and it being a Trump v's Desantis thing and Trump turning his fans against him.
frog wrote:Murdoch is turning on Trump. A Trumpty Dumpty cartoon image on the New York Post. Sign of the times. Murdoch likes to think he is kingmaker and destroyer. He has sniffed the winds of change.
It's kind of funny when people say things like this, I'm assuming some left leaning newspaper has ran some story on this angle recently, cause any story with Trump in it sells or gets click's.
Yeah sure Murdoch press was one of the rare news outlets that supported Trump at times maybe positive angles outweighing negative, but there has also always been negative or critical press about him in Murdoch press too, often on opposite pages.
It's just the positive angle on Trump stood out more in Murdoch press as every other media organisation only printed negative stories about him even somehow putting negative slants on positive aspects, it was just how it had to be, everything Trump did had to be bad somehow. it wasn't even often about politics it was just personal for many.
I think most people including many previous Trump supporters can see his political time should be over though, so yeah it's no surprise if Murdoch is also taking this view, i think its a sensible one.
Supafreak wrote:So what will become of trump ? Endless court cases and his golf handicap blowing right out .
I don't really know. I don't even care and I don't want to spend time thinking about it. One thing is sure though, he is getting really old and soon will be time to face the inevitable. Same with Biden I guess.
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:If DeSantis is that good a man/candidate why wouldn’t the Good Ole Boys Reactionary Party tell Trump to fuck off now assuming of course it has any true democratic/political values left after decades of far right accommodation/assault.
I guess we have to wait and see what happens and how it all plays out, but obviously in politics you have factions and different views, and Trump also has many passionate supporters so I'm guessing the party would rather him just bow out and not run rather than than tell him to fuck off or create a Trump v's Desantis divide.
The ideal situation would be Trump doesn't run and supports Desantis running and Trump fans jump on the Desantis train rather than it getting messy and it being a Trump v's Desantis thing and Trump turning his fans against him.
Mine was a rhetorical question @info, but I truly do appreciate your need to #alwaysmakeacomment
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Murdoch always hedges his bets. If the indictments come, he will be on the right side of it and got in early, if they don't he can still flip back to Trump if DeSantis doesn't get traction. Trump is still alpha top dog with GOP voters, if it comes down to a primary contest between them, Trump will make it a bloodbath. If he loses he will call 'rigged' and run as an independent, ensuring another Dem. term.
The big question is what Merrick Garland is going to do.
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