All Things Religion Thread
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and !!!
free viewing for you to maybe learn something, theatre is not my thing
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Good morning Optimist One
I am not religious and not a Bow Down Type , at all .
However , IF any Child , Woman or Man , DID or SAID , the things Jesus did , I would be VERY happy 2 Bow Down to them and say , Good Work , mate .
It's very Good Stuff imho .
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The Sons of Thunder…..
Jesus liked nicknames and gave disciples James and John this one.
They were the sons of a well known fisherman and were full of beans and probably had big voices. We all know guys like that.
Jesus was heading for Jerusalem for the final showdown and when a Samaritan village refused Him entry James and John said quote” Lord do you want us to rain fire down upon them and consume them?..”……sounds pretty thundery….
….but Jesus reply was a rebuke….” You don’t know what manner of spirit you are of…the son of man came not to destroy men’s lives but to save them”….and they went to another village.
How often do we as humans have the “ rain fire upon them “ type thoughts.
It’s easy to want revenge and we see it everywhere in society where “pay back” seems a common desire. The final result of that is war. War between friends, associates and even family ….and on the grand scale , countries.
How much more powerful and rewarding is grace.
Jesus being the author of grace and showing us that even in persecution and execution forgiveness is possible.
“ Father forgive them…..for they know not what they do”……
It’s a tough call sometimes but if we can all reach higher and see people in a different light we can give that grace and forgive.
This has a snowball effect and you see that grace spread as a result…
It’s funny how many adversaries become friends over time.
In the Lord’s Prayer ……there is a line….and FORGIVE US our sins, as WE FORGIVE those who have sinned against us.
This is possibly the most important statement in history…..it’s the key to a final transformation of the human being into something new and eternal in the kingdom of God.
It doesn’t come easy sometimes or naturally often but with practise comes an inner transformation that you notice within your own soul….
Forgive me my sins and I'll forgive everyone else…….thats the key.
There is a calm and a peace that comes…..it heals and cures and transforms from the inside out…..the end result is pure love….death is powerless against it.
This is the transformed human that God wants in His new world….
We are all amateurs in the grace thing, but it’s a journey like all adventures and to go on an adventure …..you have to take a step forward.
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Haha, of course
- even with the 'floptimistic' positivity ;)
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Embarrassing you can even find that crap on YT. Have you ever left your parents basement lol
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Hahaha ;)
- go gashcam, the sideline commenting sidekick of flopti the fantasy story tella fella
Float on ;);)
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Hope you like the heat JF lol
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Optimist wrote:In the Lord’s Prayer ……there is a line….and FORGIVE US our sins, as WE FORGIVE those who have sinned against us.
This is possibly the most important statement in history…..
Does your god forgive the sins committed by his own brothers in his own house? Horrible, unspeakable sins done to children?
If so, you can take your religion and f*&k off
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For Guy Smiley
For everything else
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burly
Your comment above is disgusting and U should F off this thread , with Crap like that .
Wake Up 2 yourself , mate , this is supposed 2B a Civilised site .
Absolutely disgusting !
I find that stuff almost , Unforgivable !!!
Do U have the GUTS 2 say the Exact same thing about another Prophet ???
Come on , or are U just taking another Easy and very CHEAP Shot at Jesus Christ ?
So fn weak imho !
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Pop Down wrote:burly
Your comment above is disgusting and U should F off this thread , with Crap like that .
Wake Up 2 yourself , mate , this is supposed 2B a Civilised site .
Absolutely disgusting !
I find that stuff almost , Unforgivable !!!
Do U have the GUTS 2 say the Exact same thing about another Prophet ???
Come on , or are U just taking another Easy and very CHEAP Shot at Jesus Christ ?
So fn weak imho !
So he does forgive them? Didn't know you were a happy clapper Pop down.
And yes, i will say it to ANYONE that says their god forgives the unspeaking sins committed in his own house.
The only weak thing here is that the church hides and tries to bury these sins commited.
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Nailed it_-_-_-_-
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Burleigh
I am NOT like JC and would not B able 2 forgive anyone , who touched my girls inappropriately anywhere , anytime .
HE could do THIS , apparently and THE Meaning of the Proverb , if it's called that , is SO Clear 4 any reasonable person , 2 C and grasp .
Such a weak fn Point , U are trying 2 score mate .
Have a GO at another Prophet , U weak , so and so .
These Sin's DON'T just HIDE in Christian Churches , as U well fn know .
Got off this thread , guys like Opti , are way too spiritual and decent , 2 have 2 read your shit cheap shots .
Go fly your fn Windmill shit , elsewhere , like a half decent chap , please ffs !
I don't care base 6 !
A Sanctimonious Pig , is the context of This post imho .
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to be fair @Pop, burleigh was the only poster to condemn the Dalai Lama for soliciting a minor to suck his tongue.
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So Burly has the Guts to have a Go at the Dalai Lama and JC .
U are sounding weaker B the Second , burls ( and more stinky 2 , like burly ) .
Have U had a Go at the Islamic no, One , Burleigh ?
I have suggested previously , that is something I will no. longer do .
I don't hang shit on anyone's Prophet's , as I think its Offensive !
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Sex offenders are everywhere. Unfortunately they often target the vulnerable easy targets and that’s why they turn up at churches and mainstream youth clubs etc occasionally as volunteers….they can be very cunning.
Church people can be very trusting of people….some too trusting.
The predators rarely ever believe in God and are only there to service their sick desires and see if they can find an easy target.
There is however a powerful paedophile cult in the Roman Catholic Church as everyone is well aware of.
Islam also allows child sex as their prophet married a 9 year old girl.
In my 40 plus years at churches I’ve only ever come across a couple of sus characters who were exposed before they got far…..one was the groundsman at a Christian school who weaseled his way into the job.
Jesus said anyone who offends these little ones of mine should tie a big millstone around their necks and throw themselves into the sea.
That pretty much sums it up so don’t use the old paedo card to bag church people because it just isn’t true.
Children are the most loved and valued and protected people in Christianity because we see them as God does.
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So ummm
- like 'god' we should kill children (or at least just command others to)
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Pop Down wrote:So Burly has the Guts to have a Go at the Dalai Lama and JC .
U are sounding weaker B the Second , burls ( and more stinky 2 , like burly ) .
Have U had a Go at the Islamic no, One , Burleigh ?
I have suggested previously , that is something I will no. longer do .
I don't hang shit on anyone's Prophet's , as I think its Offensive !
I couldn't care less if you're offended pop.
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Burleigh
U just don't get it , Sanctimony is , unfortunately your thing .
U can't Offend ME , with your Cheap Shots , at SO-Lite Prophets , mate .
I don't have any but love the Dali Lama !
Offensive behaviour is bloody everywhere , u just deal with it .
I know your type , think U take the fn Piss and am immune 2 the Stink of Burly .
Opti gave a heartfelt response to the Ugly issue U brought up , in response to a lovely group of words .
Showed that OUR Christian Churches have problems ( humans are involved ffs ) ,but so adore Children , like all good people do .
Our Islamic , Buddhist , Jewish Holy Places would B exactly the same .
U carry on pointing out the shit in Religion , Humanity and Life , mate .
You will never fn offend me , with a Flee Brained negative view on Life .
I am Unoffendable !
You just make me grumpy , for a fn minute .
Shit , I feel better already ( must be hitting the keys ) .
Go off this thread Burls , 4 your sake .
Then , all will be Forgiven , friend .
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Opti also mentioned the "Pedo Card" .
That should B in a Loaded Deck .
Like the Islamic Prophet , I suggest That Card , should not B played on SN .
Let's try not 2 Offend too many really good people ( me excluded , again ) .
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Pop Down wrote:Burleigh
U just don't get it , Sanctimony is , unfortunately your thing .
U can't Offend ME , with your Cheap Shots , at SO-Lite Prophets , mate .
I don't have any but love the Dali Lama !
Offensive behaviour is bloody everywhere , u just deal with it .
I know your type , think U take the fn Piss and am immune 2 the Stink of Burly .
Opti gave a heartfelt response to the Ugly issue U brought up , in response to a lovely group of words .
Showed that OUR Christian Churches have problems ( humans are involved ffs ) ,but so adore Children , like all good people do .
Our Islamic , Buddhist , Jewish Holy Places would B exactly the same .
U carry on pointing out the shit in Religion , Humanity and Life , mate .
You will never fn offend me , with a Flee Brained negative view on Life .
I am Unoffendable !
You just make me grumpy , for a fn minute .
Shit , I feel better already ( must be hitting the keys ) .
Go off this thread Burls , 4 your sake .
Then , all will be Forgiven , friend .
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Opti also mentioned the "Pedo Card" .
That should B in a Loaded Deck .
Like the Islamic Prophet , I suggest That Card , should not B played on SN .
Let's try not 2 Offend too many really good people ( me excluded , again ) .
what on earth are you on about pop. too many fruitloops this morning?
The Dali Lama asked a little boy to suck his tongue . That's not just creepy, it's down right fucked up.
What you keep talking about Islam? I have no issue pointing the finger at them either. Everyone can get a bit. Religion is horrible, this you will never change my mind on.
Go take some deep breaths champ.
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Hey Burls
Fruit loop here again .
I keep seeing U pick on Opti and his religion and the DL today , so can only call it as I see it .
You highlight ONE Circumstance , which I will now look up .
Many Religions have some pretty strange practices , like self flagellation .
I have NFI of the context or validity of your ISSUE , but will check .
I saw Rudd stick his finger in his ear and suck it .
That was funny , not creepy .
On THIS One issue , U fn have the audacity to say , ALL the DL's wonderful words and deeds are FUCKED , only according to U , the Stinky one , am guessing .
Have U ever made a mistake ?
Have U ever done as much Good as the DL ???
I am not your champ Burls and U sure aren't mine atm !
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;)
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Ha ha ,now JellyGuy is also an expert on historical wars and ancient history don’t worry about context though.
Like yourself JellyGuy there were some bad bad dudes around back in antiquity.
Why not google “ how to get a life of my own”…and live well …get out of the basement.
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Ok - an 87 year old Gentleman who has a squeaky Clean Record ( no Pell ) , has a brain fart and makes a balls up of an encounter with a boy , on Camera !!!!
He is a Jokester ( like Price Phillip ) but realises it has bad Optic's and apologises to the boy , his family and 2 the whole fn World .
And Burls , U think U can Judge the guy and say he is really a F..K.D human being ?
Worse , U think it's fun .
U can B so Nice on other stuff .
I am over U , tonight .
I do need 2 take some deep breaths , as the stink of this conversation is suffocating me .
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- go flopti denzel sci fi wormhole alien religious story tella fella!
Go on and shock us with real supernatural electricity like divine tales and wonderful imaginary fables of fairytale lies ;)
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Optimist wrote:Ha ha ,now JellyGuy is also an expert on historical wars and ancient history don’t worry about context though.
Like yourself JellyGuy there were some bad bad dudes around back in antiquity.
Why not google “ how to get a life of my own”…and live well …get out of the basement.
he's not a expert on anything, YT does his work, he's a copy and past wizard that's it.
Who puts ;) in every post like he's some good guy lol
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Haha ;)
- flopti denzel, fictional master of antiquity ;);)
Explainer of all things unexplainable
- with the factual basis of true alien brain explain technology ;)
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J F
I haven't nodded off yet and have nearly zapped U today 2, so stay out of my orbit or I will try and turn U 2 Niceness , as well .
I feel like flying around the galaxy , like a Big Bad Moon and bumping the shit out U guys , so careful turning me into Alien 1 , you are no Arnie !
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And of course ;)
- almighty no one the gashcam eggspurt arrives
Resurrection of the Impotent ;)
- keeping his blue cap and backpack on and wielding pretend keyboard sucker punches
Repent sinner ;);)
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Haha ;)
- here's a shirt for u pop, u ride ironing boards ;);)
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Jelly Flater wrote:And of course ;)
- almighty no one the gashcam eggspurt arrives
Resurrection of the Impotent ;)
- keeping his blue cap and backpack on and wielding pretend keyboard sucker punchesRepent sinner ;);)
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Pop Down wrote:Hey Burls
Fruit loop here again .
I keep seeing U pick on Opti and his religion and the DL today , so can only call it as I see it .
You highlight ONE Circumstance , which I will now look up .
Many Religions have some pretty strange practices , like self flagellation .
I have NFI of the context or validity of your ISSUE , but will check .
I saw Rudd stick his finger in his ear and suck it .
That was funny , not creepy .
On THIS One issue , U fn have the audacity to say , ALL the DL's wonderful words and deeds are FUCKED , only according to U , the Stinky one , am guessing .
Have U ever made a mistake ?
Have U ever done as much Good as the DL ???
I am not your champ Burls and U sure aren't mine atm !
Yeah I’ve made mistakes, but I’ve never been a grown adult male and asked a little boy to suck my tongue.
You defending it speaks volumes and you are not the kind of person I would even want to associate with.
Go pray to your imaginary person in the sky CHAMP.
But don’t forget to pay for the privilege.
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I think Burliegh is right to question this point and it is pertinent to the beliefs of Christians. Even if you commit the most heinous of crimes you can repent and reach heaven.
That’s no God I’d follow.
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@optimist , you are right in that pedo’s seek out children in places like churches & schools etc ect. It’s also not just the catholic priests that have done these atrocious acts. Salvation Army has a long history of the same fucked up shit going on . Do you have an opinion on why they do it ? Are they born this way ? Is it some dark force that takes hold of them ? Mental illness has been described as “ possession “ in years past , I’m genuinely interested in your thoughts on this .
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A good question supa….my personal opinion is that it’s a progression of darkness.
Jesus said a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump….or a little yeast makes the whole batch go off….or resin catalyst if you like.
Every child is born a blank slate. They are a product of their environment. The influences around them…and those influences also can be spiritual forces of light and darkness……Nobody is born violent or Gay or a paedophile…everything is a learned behaviour or one influenced by spiritual forces we can’t see…parents and friends of children can share their demons and give wrong influences….disembodied angelic beings are also in the mix and influence many who drift sideways.
As we grow older, some people start a descent downwards…..their eyes wander where they should not….everything inside them ( Gods spirit or conscience) is telling them not to go there but for the thrill they do anyway…..usually influenced by others already on the steep decent….things like molly meldrums parties come to mind back in the day…..many rich and decadent people influence others…join with us we are cool.
This may seem minor at the time but after a season of doing it , the thrill is gone and they go further down.
The darkness becomes the drug and thrill of choice….an example of this is men get bored with lots of women so they seek a thrill with guys……guys become boring too so then young guys…..young guys don’t do it anymore so they seek out children……progressives now call this “child attracted”.
A social worker lady from my church once had to flee to WA because some court judges in Brisbane were after her as she was about to bust open a child abuse network of judges……..hard to believe but true…..the darkness is a descent…
Let the demons in and they will make a mess of you…..the only way is down…
Even the Greens party who started as an environmental group now insist they have access to Christian schools…..they insist that homosexual teachers be allowed……OR ELSE….they reject our lifestyle and want to implant theirs.
People no longer allowed to have a free choice at how for thousands of years they have lived happily and taught their children a way of life…a life of safety and personal discipline , love and marriage and yes more beautiful children.
When you go after other peoples children no matter for whatever reason you are at the very bottom of the demonic barrel….To enforce your will or lifestyle choice on others is evil….especially upon children.
Without free choice the world becomes something else.
Even God doesn’t force choices….
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Morning Burly brain
I C U were a CHOMP again .
Guys like us don't believe in a God .
U are uncomfortable deep inside , so U go on a Religious Tread and love putting Up Shit , 2 try and get the Believers , 2 second guess their sacred beliefs .
U like playing The Pedo Card ffs and U think its your fn Trump Card .
Pathetic mate .
Thats as weak as Piss and U like those weak targets .
When U are 87 , maybe U will remember hanging shit on a guy your age in 2024 .
I guess U might grow Up and not lose it , like Biden .
Mate , we might meet at some Pearly Gate .
Could B JC and the DL , waiting 2 meet us .
Bon Chance with which Gate , U are asked 2 take .
I am willing to Forgive , His Holiness , 4 his silly mistake , done in Public and on Camera .
The Issue was a bit creepy , but NOT Sinister in ANY way .
An Old Man had a brain fart ffs and apologised .
U can work out what U are willing 2 PAY , 4 your behaviour , as I do 2 .
Mortals like US , are NOT the ultimate Judges of Sins , Big or Small !
We have 2 leave that stuff 2 the Gods .
64 Ashy , but very low Mileage .
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Your 87 pop?
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Optimist wrote:Nobody is born Gay
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suchas wrote:Optimist wrote:Nobody is born Gay
It’s virtually impossible to determine whether or not this is true but I contend that it’s incorrect. I believe that some people are born gay. Maybe not everyone who is attracted to the same sex , but some people are definitely built that way.
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I have no idea , but surely Humans are NOT the only species that Plays around with both sexes .
Nature affects Human Nature and Gay , Lesbian or Bi behaviour seems ( doesn't come ) natural , 2 me .
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Smiley - with Therapy , some of the Guys who throw shit at Opti , 4 EVER nuance in the Bible , MIGHT Grow Up 2 .
How do U reconcile ALL the Old Texts language , with Therapy ?
Will Therapy help change a View , that 100 Virgins are waiting 4 Me if I commit suicide ???FFS !
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suchas wrote:Optimist wrote:Nobody is born Gay
So with “therapy” people can become straight then Opti?
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Smiley arrived with some helpful Therapy .
As I edited above , therapy may help some guys realise there will NOT B 100 virgins waiting 2 greet them , after committing suicide , 2 .
A real spiritual help .
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I also think it's incorrect, and Opti's language about "lifestyle" and "choices" shows a significant amount of ignorance, or possibly just a lack of real world experience.
Within family and friends I've seen enough trauma and anguish to know the people didn't choose their predilections anymore than you or I did.
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Opti has a Bible that he believes is ( perhaps ) The Words of God .
He didn't write them .
The Koran seems to have sections that are Open 2 interpretation 2 .
Most Religious Texts WERE written in Another World when Lifestyles and Choices were VERY different .
These Texts have caused so many people anguish , trauma and misery .
They have also HELPED Millions of People, navigate their lives in a WAY , they choose .
Not EVERY Word or Phrase , is applicable in todays World .
I don't think Opti's views show a ANY Ignorance OR Lack of Real World Experience at all .
More than half the World , thinks these Texts are Real , Today .
Not EVERY word in Opti's Bible is True , but he sure has a Right , 2 say them and believe them imho.
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just because someone has a 'belief' from a book, doesn't make it anything more than an opinion @Pop, which we are all entitled to.. people who think 'belief' trumps 'opinion' are dangerous, in any context.
Any judgment from these people fires up the silent majority, who think literal interpretations of archaic allegory found in randomly curated clay pots has possibly run its course, and is not very relevant today.
(i'm a traditionalist, as you know @Pop, but of the opinion our traditions are based on ever-evolving consensus, not a series of truths we must believe, a view at least as valid as Optimist's).
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I feel U are better qualified on this stuff .
Would guess a Belief is Stronger than an Opinion .
What Tumps what . I guess , is also an Opinion .
The Belief's of the True Believers , are NOT a Silent Minority at all .
We All have 2 give and take , on what others Believe and do .
I will Pop down and hope Opti's Belief's are respected , that's my Opinion , not a belief .
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I would say belief and opinion are always secondary to faith in opti’s world. Religious faith can, but not necessarily, take people to the extremes and herein is the cause of much misery in the world today.
Here you go optimist
Not sure my motivation...my instinctive need to stick up for the underdog...my secret desire to be one day honoured rightfully with the role of Forum moderator (expecting a call any day)...
But anyway I couldn't help but read your troubles on another thread...unfortunately I found myself siding with everyone's posts...other than your own...except for the part where you were told you can't post here!
So I put my low IQ mind to coming up with a solution that suits all...and here it is...a safe place if you like
You can post anything you like about your beliefs...and no one has to read it unless they want! Easy peasy...
maybe you could even get Jesus, fat Buddha, Mohammed, and friends to converse in adult conversation here
Solving the world problems, one at a time...call it taking a shovel as a way of moving that mountain
All the best...brother
PS...I actually was born again once, but I grew up, and grew a brain of my own...and realised it was all a load of shit!