All Things Religion Thread

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Balance started the topic in Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 2:13pm

Here you go optimist

Not sure my motivation...my instinctive need to stick up for the underdog...my secret desire to be one day honoured rightfully with the role of Forum moderator (expecting a call any day)...

But anyway I couldn't help but read your troubles on another thread...unfortunately I found myself siding with everyone's posts...other than your own...except for the part where you were told you can't post here!

So I put my low IQ mind to coming up with a solution that suits all...and here it is...a safe place if you like

You can post anything you like about your beliefs...and no one has to read it unless they want! Easy peasy...

maybe you could even get Jesus, fat Buddha, Mohammed, and friends to converse in adult conversation here

Solving the world problems, one at a time...call it taking a shovel as a way of moving that mountain

All the best...brother

PS...I actually was born again once, but I grew up, and grew a brain of my own...and realised it was all a load of shit!

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 11:03am

- "What hope for peace on earth when a cult that corrupts the mind of an innocent babe with the parents blessing?"

Yep.
- two sides of the same coin ;)

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 11:05am

- all things religion ;)

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burleigh Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 11:13am

Thou shalt not kill........hmmmmmmmm

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sameaswas Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 12:52pm
Jelly Flater wrote:

- all things religion ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTL93oMHnw

good point jelly but animal sacrifice is still common in many islamic states.

i think someone has taken offence and have barred me for "hate speach".

had to log on to access the quote icon? or i am paranoid.

ifso why? what hate? and freedom of speach? are there protocols for barring a swillnutter? eg let them know and the right of reply?

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Optimist Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 1:11pm

You’re a toxic character jellyguy….your happy to live in a society founded on Judaeo Christian principles and enjoy all its benefits ,but constantly spit on the founders of it…...back to your you tube gods …there is one for every one of your poison narratives .
Back up the dump truck and dump some more of your constant you tube garbage on the conversations….its on you tube so it must be true hey…
That’s all your good at….if you can call it that.

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 1:42pm

^^^ hah flopti ;)

- not much peace, love nor compassion to b found in you at all ;);)

Are you talking about the societies founded on the principles of stealing and occupying land, indigenous genocide and forced religious observance?

Don't get too carried away without trying to ignore your obvious ignorance and pathetic attempt to offer substance in fake parables consisting of nothing other than borrowed second / third / fourth / hundredth hand info fairytales ;)

Once again that plank in thine eye of yours is still wedged in good.
- don't worry bout questioning truth in any you tube garbage dumping ;)

You are a religious junk recycling plant interpreting waffle from a book of scripture and passing your perverted and imagined version off as true
- so it must be true hey ;);).

And a poison narrative more likely would refer to preaching about the rapture, armageddon, imaginary saviours returning to save you and all sorts of farked up childish make believe stories about retribution, murder, war and fantasy planet heavens.

Keep sending us those precision guided truth bombs tho flopti
- haha

Like this below, it's your 'truth' ;)
- so it must be true hey ;);)

Flopti, from page 9 :

"There are actually 3 heavens in translation, the sky above is the first, space is the second and planet Heaven the third. ( paul talked about the third heaven) You get to planet heaven after your spirit leaves your body. When you die your spirit descends into the heart of the earth and waits. Then if approved by God you are lifted up and go through the tunnel which is probably like a wormhole in Sci Fi. If unapproved you will wait for judgement but there is no time there so you wouldn't know if you've been there a year or a hundred years. At the end of the tunnel you will be greeted by The Christ Himself in His glorified form and put on planet Heaven, a very beautiful and physical place and in your brand new physical body. Earth will also be renewed after the great tribulation so for a time there will still be two seperate habitations and eventually just one.
It is comforting to know that on my death, my heavenly father will still look after me and guide my spirit or "actual person" through the maze of death and to the renewed and promised life.
Also, If anyone is interested in the time of the end and the mark of the beast etc. I think I can answer that for you, as I have a theory which has been playing out exactly correct over the last few years."

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 1:43pm

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ashsam Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 4:19pm

What a sad miserable life the JF must live.

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 4:26pm

Haha
- another expert talking bout stuff they know nothing of ;)

You can put ya head back up yo arse now ;);)

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indo-dreaming Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 4:36pm
Jelly Flater wrote:

- all things religion ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTL93oMHnw

They should breed these cows everywhere through Israel, so they are always ready to go or just to freak the Islamist out.

It's insane that arab muslims built a mosque on the most important site of the Jews and then are so paranoid Jews will destroy it they start wars, well thats what they claim 7th Oct was about, even calling the operation " al aqsa flood"

Imagine if the Jews or anyone else built something on a sacred muslim site.

If Israel every falls, i hope they use their nuclear arms and blow up the al aqsa mosque and also blow up the mosque in mecca.

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Optimist Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 4:45pm

More about tunnels and planet heaven.....seems like there's more like me....

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seeds Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 4:56pm

Oh yeah Indo, that’ll bring world peace. FMD

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GuySmiley Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 5:25pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
Jelly Flater wrote:

- all things religion ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTL93oMHnw

They should breed these cows everywhere through Israel, so they are always ready to go or just to freak the Islamist out.

It's insane that arab muslims built a mosque on the most important site of the Jews and then are so paranoid Jews will destroy it they start wars, well thats what they claim 7th Oct was about, even calling the operation " al aqsa flood"

Imagine if the Jews or anyone else built something on a sacred muslim site.

If Israel every falls, i hope they use their nuclear arms and blow up the al aqsa mosque and also blow up the mosque in mecca.

Speechless … again and again and again and again and …

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indo-dreaming Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 5:30pm
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Oh yeah Indo, that’ll bring world peace. FMD

I hope they never get in that situation i hope Israel stays strong, but if they ever lose their land for a second time.

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Optimist Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 5:45pm

Indo, ..your thoughts on that 11 minute video I just posted.

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 6:18pm

Hahaha ;)

- "... i hope they use their nuclear arms and blow up the al aqsa mosque and also blow up the mosque in mecca."

Geez, nothing quite like insanity to counter insanity.
- noinfo and flopti should start a peanut vigilante group for ppl with planks in their eye ;)

Remember it's only islamic religious extremism that's fuelling this all haha
- the blinkers you have on allow you to support and condone the other side of the coin on display in the vid below.

You must be very proud to be able to call out one type of religiously influenced fanaticism , yet turn a blind eye to another ;)

- hypocrisy at its finest (all things religion)
Well done ;);)

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Optimist Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 6:28pm

Jelly guy , your thoughts on the 11. Minute video I posted.

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seeds Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 6:41pm

Stop it Opti. Deluded fool. Do you really think anyone is going to be convinced that what that guy is saying is legit. Yet you post it here as if it’s truth. Sounds like when you’re weak mind couldn’t handle a 3 day fast. Come on…on that fast were you completely sober?
Why did you see God or Jesus in your altered state? Was it subliminally already there? Was the crackpot in your clip, from a crackpot show, from a crackpot Christian TV company, also preprogrammed without knowing it? The brain is an incredible thing but it’s not always playing a straight hand.

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ashsam Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 6:54pm
Optimist wrote:

Jelly guy , your thoughts on the 11. Minute video I posted.

Hang on he’s searching YouTube for the answer.

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 6:54pm

But, but flopti ;)

When you offer up your designated you tube stuff it's legit haha

- "its on you tube so it must be true hey…"

Freudian slips or just plain cuckoo ;)
How's that straight hand of hypocrisy and delusion going hey

- going, going
Gone ;);)

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 6:58pm

Haha ;)
- here you go gashcam, no search needed

A little tribute to you, since you're the mayor of ummm

;);)

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goofyfoot Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:00pm
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Oh yeah Indo, that’ll bring world peace. FMD

He’s gotta just be a brainless organism just wondering around Phillip Island in a state of stupor. Can you believe that last comment! Farrrk moi!

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Optimist Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:00pm

Cowards, …you’ll watch cow videos but not anything powerful about a surfers testimony about waking up in a morgue….His journey between life and death.
I’ve met the guy personally as well as another with the same type of story.
Truth is stranger than fiction.

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Jelly Flater Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:03pm

Not if it's fiction ;)

- "its on you tube so it must be true hey…"

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seeds Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:07pm

I don’t doubt you’ve met the guy personally. Crackpot convention? Oh that’s right you get around scatting in many denominations and churches so no wonder.

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seeds Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:12pm
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seeds wrote:

Oh yeah Indo, that’ll bring world peace. FMD

He’s gotta just be a brainless organism just wondering around Phillip Island in a state of stupor. Can you believe that last comment! Farrrk moi!

Double down Indo,

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indo-dreaming Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:22pm

Not worth it Goofy is just a troll.

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seeds Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:28pm

Troll is your “woke” word alternative #2 on Swellnet Indo.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:38pm
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Cowards, …you’ll watch cow videos but not anything powerful about a surfers testimony about waking up in a morgue….His journey between life and death.
I’ve met the guy personally as well as another with the same type of story.
Truth is stranger than fiction.

Started watching it, but got distracted.

Look if there was all these miracles happening with Christians as claimed then it would be able to be supported by studies and stats, like Christians having lower rates of cancer or other disease or living longer etc.

But yeah people are free to have whatever faith they want, and i personally see the Judeo-Christian aspects as an important aspect of western civilisation, i think the eroding of it of it as a base is causing many issue's for all western countries.

I mean who would have ever thought that there would be people openly siding with jihadist and basically supporting the destruction of the land and people that have played a big part in who we are as a people and culture?

Honestly never saw that coming.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:37pm
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Troll is your “woke” word alternative #2 on Swellnet Indo.

Do you see Goofy adding anything to this conversation?

At least in this thread Guy contributes to the topic even if i dont agree with him, so if he disses me fair enough.

But Goofy just see's something pop up on the front page with me involved and jumps in for some pointless abuse, thats classic trolling.

But you either just have to ignore it, or basically just say fuck off troll, otherwise you feed them.

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southernraw Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 7:59pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
Jelly Flater wrote:

- all things religion ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTL93oMHnw

They should breed these cows everywhere through Israel, so they are always ready to go or just to freak the Islamist out.

It's insane that arab muslims built a mosque on the most important site of the Jews and then are so paranoid Jews will destroy it they start wars, well thats what they claim 7th Oct was about, even calling the operation " al aqsa flood"

Imagine if the Jews or anyone else built something on a sacred muslim site.

If Israel every falls, i hope they use their nuclear arms and blow up the al aqsa mosque and also blow up the mosque in mecca.

I think Indo thinks these are nuclear arms...
Classic comment above Goofy. ha

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ashsam Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 9:27pm

And just like that enter blue diamond, thought you would be into rocks have souls lol

“Aboriginal spirituality is the belief that all objects are living and share the same soul or spirit that Aboriginals share. This is a very fundamental statement about Aboriginal spirituality. It implies that besides animals and plants even rocks have a soul.”

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southernraw Monday, 25 Mar 2024 at 10:39pm
ashsam wrote:

And just like that enter blue diamond, thought you would be into rocks have souls lol

“Aboriginal spirituality is the belief that all objects are living and share the same soul or spirit that Aboriginals share. This is a very fundamental statement about Aboriginal spirituality. It implies that besides animals and plants even rocks have a soul.”

lol? Isn't that what teenage girls write?

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seeds Thursday, 28 Mar 2024 at 9:00am

Don’t understand how you could be swept up in any of it. Poor kids born into it have no chance unless they wise up once adults.
https://apple.news/AUW9Nv32eRtKfY3_UWGcHbA

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 28 Mar 2024 at 9:38am
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Don’t understand how you could be swept up in any of it. Poor kids born into it have no chance unless they wise up once adults.
https://apple.news/AUW9Nv32eRtKfY3_UWGcHbA

Cults fascinate me, i love the docos and movies on them.

I think its more just human nature wanting to feel a sense of purpose, community, family and have tradition and ritual, all things we all once had from a tribal type culture.

But also a sense of wanting to feel special and a sense of we are the only ones that are onto things, it's similar to how people go down conspiracy theory rabbit holes and feel they have some special knowledge and understanding, I think many people also just need leaders to look up to to help guide them and give the direction and focus in life.

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Jelly Flater Thursday, 28 Mar 2024 at 9:39am

- strength and power

Cult of the weak ;)

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Optimist Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 4:43am

For there is one God and one mediator between God and man….
The man Christ Jesus…
Who gave Himself as a ransom for all the people…
This has now been witnessed to at the proper time….
1 Timothy 2:..5-6.
Happy Easter.

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Sprout Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 10:32am

Couple days off thanks jeebus!

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indo-dreaming Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 6:44pm
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Couple days off thanks jeebus!

To be fair to Optimist today is a pretty significant day for Christians, it's the day Jesus was crucified.

BTW. What does the bible say?

Does it say the Jews crucified him or the Romans?

I thought it was the Jews but some sources say Romans.

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ashsam Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 6:57pm

People like sprout and JF have 0 respect.

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Pops Friday, 29 Mar 2024 at 9:57pm

@Indo
The Romans did it under pressure from the Sanhedrin (roughly analogous to the Jewish supreme court).
The Jews did not have the right to administer capital punishment under Roman occupation.

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Optimist Saturday, 30 Mar 2024 at 6:24am

The crucifixion cross was a Roman torture device designed to terrify the population into submission.
Rebels against Rome and criminals would be nailed to a crossbeam and hauled up an already positioned pole. The crossbeam would drop into place and then they would nail the feet to the pole as well.
This was done usually along public roads to give the desired effect and as you can imagine there was little resistance to the Roman Empire in Israel…
You would slowly not be able to breath from the sagging of your chest so you would have to push up on your feet nails to breath….a very effective torture device.
When the Jewish priests plotted to get rid of Jesus as a criminal.., it was the Roman governor who handled the death sentence, but in public he washed his hands saying “ I find no fault in this man”….his blood be upon you.
And that’s the exact point….His blood was upon them and for all the people of the earth who call on His name.
Blood is life, the life is in the blood….it is sacred, and in the Jewish religion the high priest took the blood of an innocent lamb and presented it to God in the temple at the appointed time , behind the curtain in the most holy place where the ark was kept..
So Jesus the innocent lamb of God was killed at the exact same time that was about to happen except He was killed on that cross…..the innocent blood to cover sin…life for life.
At the exact same time of His death, ….a massive earthquake and that huge heavy curtain that seperated the public in the temple from the most holy place was torn completely from the top to the bottom …….God showing that His sons blood was enough….no more…..never again…..only God Himself could have torn the curtain that way.
……man and God no longer seperated…….one life for the many…high priests no longer required……Jesus is now our high priest and for everyone on earth not just the Jewish people….
He loves you….talk to Him.
Happy Easter.

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I tried talkin- all I got was lots of cussin_ - _

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seeds Saturday, 30 Mar 2024 at 8:55pm

And Asham turns out to be a prosperity gospel conservative. Jesus wept!!

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 30 Mar 2024 at 9:05pm
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And Asham turns out to be a prosperity gospel conservative. Jesus wept!!

I knew it. Finally revealed himself a few days ago and that explains everything.

Hope ya well Seeds and that new board of yours is getting a licking. AW

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Optimist Sunday, 31 Mar 2024 at 7:00am

We all know that on Easter Sunday morning Jesus rose from the dead and began visiting people in His all new resurrected body. ...This body is the future of mankind.
He had power over death....but even long before then, one of His most famous acts was the story of Lazarus...dead for 4 days....its also when Jesus was personally touched by the love people had for Lazarus and "wept Himself."...the shortest verse in the bible....
...this is his story....

The Death of Lazarus
11 Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 It was that Mary who anointed the Lord with fragrant oil and wiped His feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick. 3 Therefore the sisters sent to Him, saying, “Lord, behold, he whom You love is sick.”
4 When Jesus heard that, He said, “This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it.”
5 Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. 6 So, when He heard that he was sick, He stayed two more days in the place where He was. 7 Then after this He said to the disciples, “Let us go to Judea again.”
8 The disciples said to Him, “Rabbi, lately the Jews sought to stone You, and are You going there again?”
9 Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. 10 But if one walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him.” 11 These things He said, and after that He said to them, “Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.”
12 Then His disciples said, “Lord, if he sleeps he will get well.” 13 However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in sleep.
14 Then Jesus said to them plainly, “Lazarus is dead. 15 And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, that you may believe. Nevertheless let us go to him.”
16 Then Thomas, who is called the Twin, said to his fellow disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with Him.”

I Am the Resurrection and the Life
17 So when Jesus came, He found that he had already been in the tomb four days. 18 Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, about [a]two miles away. 19 And many of the Jews had joined the women around Martha and Mary, to comfort them concerning their brother.
20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met Him, but Mary was sitting in the house. 21 Now Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. 22 But even now I know that whatever You ask of God, God will give You.”
23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”
24 Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. 26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
27 She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

Jesus and Death, the Last Enemy.....
28 And when she had said these things, she went her way and secretly called Mary her sister, saying, “The Teacher has come and is calling for you.” 29 As soon as she heard that, she arose quickly and came to Him. 30 Now Jesus had not yet come into the town, but [b]was in the place where Martha met Him. 31 Then the Jews who were with her in the house, and comforting her, when they saw that Mary rose up quickly and went out, followed her, [c]saying, “She is going to the tomb to weep there.”
32 Then, when Mary came where Jesus was, and saw Him, she fell down at His feet, saying to Him, “Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.”
33 Therefore, when Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled. 34 And He said, “Where have you laid him?”
They said to Him, “Lord, come and see.”
35 Jesus wept.
36 Then the Jews said, “See how He loved him!”
37 And some of them said, “Could not this Man, who opened the eyes of the blind, also have kept this man from dying?”

Lazarus Raised from the Dead
38 Then Jesus, again groaning in Himself, came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone lay against it. 39 Jesus said, “Take away the stone.”
Martha, the sister of him who was dead, said to Him, “Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been dead four days.”
40 Jesus said to her, “Did I not say to you that if you would believe you would see the glory of God?” 41 Then they took away the stone [d]from the place where the dead man was lying. And Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me. 42 And I know that You always hear Me, but because of the people who are standing by I said this, that they may believe that You sent Me.” 43 Now when He had said these things,
He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!” 44 And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with graveclothes, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Loose him, and let him go.”

Have a happy and very blessed Easter