The Israel Palestine problem solving thread
I think what's missing in the above conversation is how the US also got so caught out re. 9/11...
complacency...
ripe for conspiracy...
and, most importantly, how israel was relying on AI for assessment of security risks...
which..
a) shows the absolute short comings of AI - GIGO - for lots of things
b) shows you can have all the flash shit in the world, and still get caught out
c) humans are better at assessing the unpredictability and nastyness of humans
d) it's inconceivable israel would be so stupid as to not have humans overseeing the AI
which leads us back to conspiracy...
inconceivable... but would not really be surprising...
humans are obsessed with tech...
and it is leading us astray on many fronts from my perspective
I'm surprised no one on here has got the balls to back some of their hamas were just reacting rhetoric...
I would have given it a go... once upon a time...
but when i heard they cold bloodedly machine gunned down 250 festival goers... i was pretty much done...
then, seeing that german chick's dead naked body getting paraded through the streets, and beaten with sticks... I realised, these are a bunch of fucking savages, that would care nothig for me... so fuck em...
and the fact iran (china and russia) supported the whole thing... means we are all now in an existential crisis...
so fuck em all
ip morons in the streets have got their perpetual internal existential crisis obsession all arse about face
I literally cannot stop thinking of the horrors some of those hot festival chicks must have faced...
fucking monkey behaviour
sad pathetic monkeys
Jelly Flater wrote:2.40 mark of vid…
- just have to wait till after ‘the war’ is done before we can verify it officially… u know… deny certain access to stuff that has the capability of challenging the chosen narrative ;)With democracy and freedom it fits under the banner of ‘kill first, ask questions later’.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0MAu8ScHyJU&pp=ygUSZWd5cHQgd2FybnMgaXNyYWVs
Aaaaand Exhibit B.
Some pretty damning facts in there, don't you agree @roadkill??
And don't put words in my mouth. I never said Israel planned with Hamas.
But suppose they knew what was coming and allowed the gates to be opened?
The above video deals in facts, not like your nightly news that cherry picks headlines to keep you dulled and obedient.
Roadkill wrote:soggydog wrote:Roadkill wrote:southernraw wrote:To not ask the question of whether or not Israel were complicit in Hamas's terror attack is to not be open to all possibilities.
It's amusing the same people here that say that 'innocent peoples lives are the cost of war' can't see it the other way around.
To actually believe Netanyahu is a good guy and has innocent peoples best intentions at heart is naive. He's currently showing his hand at that.
His and his parties intentions have always been clear regarding Gaza.
Do you really believe he and his party care what nationality pays a price for the 'cost of war'?
Not saying it's how it happened. But to not ask the question is plain naive, especially considering Netanyahus history since the 1980's.To suggest there was scheming from Netanyahu and his govt to actively and with planning encourage Hamas to attack Israel knowing there would be civilian death is just ridiculous. Beyond stupid.
Not one of your best moments.
Actually it’s you that is wrong again RK. All evidence proves that the IDF will kill a few Israeli’s, and propagandise it to whip fucktards like your self, green room and Indo into consenting to unrestrained revenge killing.
I am not disputing that Israel will sacrifice their own people...but the premise from SR is that Israel Govt and Netanyahu were complicit in planning the Hamas attack. Which is wrong and nothing but a dumb as fuck conspiracy theory.
Provoking someone or something into action is not actively planning and/helping an attack.
focus SD, reading and understanding is different to reading and not understanding
Its true conspiracy theory stuff, that said you cant truely write conspiracy theories off some are occasionally true but most are not, so yeah its way down the bottom of the list of explanations.
Its more likely to be exactly what it is seems, a government dropping the ball thinking its smarter than what they are and underestimating the enemy.
And considering the government was in trouble and unpopular, the government intentionally dropping the ball on an attack like this doesn't add up, people in Israel are apparently angry at the government, they will no doubt be given the arse once this settles down.
If the government knew of the attack it would make much more sense to maybe let it happen to some degree and then prevent it going further before any deaths and then expose all the evidence of what the plan was and how big it was and then claim it as a big victory and show the people how they are kept safe.
The only kind of reasoning behind intentionally letting it happen so you can go to war, is if you win the war in the eyes of the people and get all the hostages back safely, but yeah that would be such a long shot conspiracy theory, theres a lot needed to buy into ...and even if they win the war in the eyes of the people and get most hostages back, the public is still going to be angry about 7th Oct both in the lapse of intelligence, how long it took to respond, the deaths, the kidnapped and then a lot of IDF are going to die in this war many just civilian's serving, the government has fucked up big time and the people would now see them as incompetent no matter how successfully they are in the war, and unlikely to be voted back in.
sypkan wrote:I literally cannot stop thinking of the horrors some of those hot festival chicks must have faced...
fucking monkey behaviour
sad pathetic monkeys
There is about 240 hostages but Hamas claim to not have that many, it wasn't just Hamas who breached the border it was other similar groups and just individuals, its completely realistic that some of these hot chicks are now private sex slaves or taken back raped and killed.
indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:I literally cannot stop thinking of the horrors some of those hot festival chicks must have faced...
fucking monkey behaviour
sad pathetic monkeys
There is about 240 hostages but Hamas claim to not have that many, it wasn't just Hamas who breached the border it was other similar groups and just individuals, its completely realistic that some of these hot chicks are now private sex slaves or taken back raped and killed.
Horrendous....
Poor people partying at a rave then that shit goes down.
Nightmare...
indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:soggydog wrote:Roadkill wrote:southernraw wrote:To not ask the question of whether or not Israel were complicit in Hamas's terror attack is to not be open to all possibilities.
It's amusing the same people here that say that 'innocent peoples lives are the cost of war' can't see it the other way around.
To actually believe Netanyahu is a good guy and has innocent peoples best intentions at heart is naive. He's currently showing his hand at that.
His and his parties intentions have always been clear regarding Gaza.
Do you really believe he and his party care what nationality pays a price for the 'cost of war'?
Not saying it's how it happened. But to not ask the question is plain naive, especially considering Netanyahus history since the 1980's.To suggest there was scheming from Netanyahu and his govt to actively and with planning encourage Hamas to attack Israel knowing there would be civilian death is just ridiculous. Beyond stupid.
Not one of your best moments.
Actually it’s you that is wrong again RK. All evidence proves that the IDF will kill a few Israeli’s, and propagandise it to whip fucktards like your self, green room and Indo into consenting to unrestrained revenge killing.
I am not disputing that Israel will sacrifice their own people...but the premise from SR is that Israel Govt and Netanyahu were complicit in planning the Hamas attack. Which is wrong and nothing but a dumb as fuck conspiracy theory.
Provoking someone or something into action is not actively planning and/helping an attack.
focus SD, reading and understanding is different to reading and not understanding
Its true conspiracy theory stuff, that said you cant truely write conspiracy theories off some are occasionally true but most are not, so yeah its way down the bottom of the list of explanations.
Its more likely to be exactly what it is seems, a government dropping the ball thinking its smarter than what they are and underestimating the enemy.
And considering the government was in trouble and unpopular, the government intentionally dropping the ball on an attack like this doesn't add up, people in Israel are apparently angry at the government, they will no doubt be given the arse once this settles down.
If the government knew of the attack it would make much more sense to maybe let it happen to some degree and then prevent it going further before any deaths and then expose all the evidence of what the plan was and how big it was and then claim it as a big victory and show the people how they are kept safe.
The only kind of reasoning behind intentionally letting it happen so you can go to war, is if you win the war in the eyes of the people and get all the hostages back safely, but yeah that would be such a long shot conspiracy theory, theres a lot needed to buy into ...and even if they win the war in the eyes of the people and get most hostages back, the public is still going to be angry about 7th Oct both in the lapse of intelligence, how long it took to respond, the deaths, the kidnapped and then a lot of IDF are going to die in this war many just civilian's serving, the government has fucked up big time and the people would now see them as incompetent no matter how successfully they are in the war, and unlikely to be voted back in.
Yeah pretty fair and reasonable reply thanks Indo, although not so sure it falls into 'true conspiracy' territory when there's alot of evidence that points to it being a possibility.
When things don't add up...as that breach in security doesn't, my bullshit radar gets set off and this is one such occasion.
Did you watch that vid J.F posted that i reposted? Some good facts in there.
Also this....
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israel-s-far-right-plots-to-recolon...
It's no secret Netanyahu aligned with the far right to get back into leadership.
And now their plans are being revealed.
Which begs the question of the security breach and whether or not this was part of a major plan to retaliate against the aggressor in order to reclaim land. Netanyahu said something exactly along those lines before this war or Hamas attacks even began.
As for the music festival chicks, couldn't agree more. I think i mentioned it earlier but they showed footage of one of the girls on the back of a motorbike being kidnapped and she looked almost exactly like my ex, who also frequents these festivals. Adds a certain realism to the footage for sure.
Hamas are pure evil.
When you need to decide between a conspiracy or stuff up go stuff up every time
But the evidence GS. So much evidence of intent. Hard to ignore.
Either way its not something thatll be made public for any one of us.
Smells awfully whiffy to me personally.
"Which begs the question of the security breach and whether or not this was part of a major plan to retaliate against the aggressor in order to reclaim land. Netanyahu said something exactly along those lines before this war or Hamas attacks even began."
I cant see how it makes much sense to want to reclaim land and all the so called experts from sources like ABC podcast etc dont think they want to reoccupy Gaza, it's a very different situation to the West bank, Gaza doesn't have the historical and religious significance like the West bank area.
And lets not forget Israel* gave up Gaza in 2005, it was suppose to be a type of peace plan, Jews get out of Gaza you guys have 100% control, we promise to provide energy and water for a period (that i believe has expired but still has been providing) while you get back on your feet and all we ask in return is peace
Not long after the rockets started, so Israel then amped up border control and blockaded the border as did Egypt because they dont want to have much to do with a government that is really just a terrorist group either, hence why they aren't exactly rushing to help Gaza despite also being Arabs and Muslim
And before anyone brings up the it's all about gas thing that ive seen on social media.
"Gas at stake in Gaza? Why this theory doesn't hold true"
https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1357621/gas-at-stake-in-gaza-why...
* Israel gained Gaza from Egypt in a war.
Netanyahu is a crooked kant by any measure but he, his and successive government(s) and Israel's citizens have screwed over the Palestinians as they liked for decades so it was arrogance to the threat that caught them out
Good points fellas.
Ive never liked Netanyahu,...there always has been thus intent etched into hus face and reflected in his words and actions.
I wouldn't put anything past him.
Anyway its a friday arvo in what still is a relatively lucky and certainly peaceful country so signing off.
Enjoy your weekend all.
This was pretty interesting
Watched one on a Gay muslim Arab the other week too, yes its a thing, apparently Israel is a little bit of a haven for these people as they dont get thrown from roof tops etc.
Also learnt this week 6 or 7 of the hostages are Arab muslims as were some killed by Hamas.
Some good news
Optimist wrote:Interesting that in the 10 wars currently being fought in the world they are all Islamic Jihad wars except for Putins stuff up.
And, even when Islamist’s have no one to fight they fight each other.
Calling the situation in Ukraine as Putins stuff up is starting the story in the middle and quite disingenuous.?
Ask your self. What would Jesus think? Probably not what your thinking eh?
Peace loving Hamas being complete assholes in hostage release…they just can’t help but be scum.
Roadkill wrote:Peace loving Hamas being complete assholes in hostage release…they just can’t help but be scum.
Mainstream news says it was Israel that violated the truce and delayed the prisonet exchange ?
I looked up who is Miko Peled before posting this . I don’t have a side in this shit fight . https://x.com/sarkysage/status/1728561739636294035?s=46&t=5RczxwAfzXe7hK...
Indo’s video “Arab Muslim speaks out about her life in Israel” is a must watch if you haven’t seen it.
She identifies herself freely and tells the whole story in a very challenging interview….brave girl….need more of them….
Supafreak wrote:I looked up who is Miko Peled before posting this . I don’t have a side in this shit fight . https://x.com/sarkysage/status/1728561739636294035?s=46&t=5RczxwAfzXe7hK...
The truth is out there and it’s not in the mainstream media
Good to see second day deal went through.
The hostage deals obviously had to happen but the pause is not good news for IDF, Hamas are going to be moving chess pieces around and know exactly where IDF will be going next, Hamas preparation now could result in more IDF deaths and a longer war.
This is spot on, on every point.
That people are so naive to think Hamas/Palestinians and Israel are equally to blame is what is so hard to fathom.
Quite a few SN violins are being played.
Roadkill wrote:That people are so naive to think Hamas/Palestinians and Israel are equally to blame is what is so hard to fathom.
Quite a few SN violins are being played.
I certainly hope you aren’t talking about me there numbnuts, all violence is wrong but successive Israel governments have perfected the art of making the most of each and every crisis since the 67 war screwing over the Palestinians as they pleased, this war is just the latest example
GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:That people are so naive to think Hamas/Palestinians and Israel are equally to blame is what is so hard to fathom.
Quite a few SN violins are being played.
I certainly hope you aren’t talking about me there numbnuts, all violence is wrong but successive Israel governments have perfected the art of making the most of each and every crisis since the 67 war screwing over the Palestinians as they pleased, this war is just the latest example
Is defensive violence wrong? The use of force for protection wrong?
Roadkill wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:That people are so naive to think Hamas/Palestinians and Israel are equally to blame is what is so hard to fathom.
Quite a few SN violins are being played.
I certainly hope you aren’t talking about me there numbnuts, all violence is wrong but successive Israel governments have perfected the art of making the most of each and every crisis since the 67 war screwing over the Palestinians as they pleased, this war is just the latest example
Is defensive violence wrong? The use of force for protection wrong?
You’re as sharp as a bowling ball no doubt about it
GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:That people are so naive to think Hamas/Palestinians and Israel are equally to blame is what is so hard to fathom.
Quite a few SN violins are being played.
I certainly hope you aren’t talking about me there numbnuts, all violence is wrong but successive Israel governments have perfected the art of making the most of each and every crisis since the 67 war screwing over the Palestinians as they pleased, this war is just the latest example
Is defensive violence wrong? The use of force for protection wrong?
You’re as sharp as a bowling ball no doubt about it
Yeah, you didn’t answer the question…..
Quote from this story.
“I’m truly astonished for something of this magnitude to go down and for the Israelis to have no clue that this is about to happen. I’m just speechless,” said Senior Fellow Colin Clarke at the global security research tank Soufan Center. “They have had sources inside these Palestinian groups for years.”
https://frontline.news/post/security-experts-blame-israel-government-for...
Roadkill wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:That people are so naive to think Hamas/Palestinians and Israel are equally to blame is what is so hard to fathom.
Quite a few SN violins are being played.
I certainly hope you aren’t talking about me there numbnuts, all violence is wrong but successive Israel governments have perfected the art of making the most of each and every crisis since the 67 war screwing over the Palestinians as they pleased, this war is just the latest example
Is defensive violence wrong? The use of force for protection wrong?
You’re as sharp as a bowling ball no doubt about it
Yeah, you didn’t answer the question…..
Have already done so many times above since this started, clearly your memory and/or attention span isn’t as it should be and hence my bowling ball comment …. Unless you’re wanting to discuss Israel’s MO of disproportionate use of lethal force against the innocent Palestinian citizens trapped in Gaza.
Love your work @philosurphizing.
Thanks again for sharing.
Unfortunately the folks on this thread that should be reading this won't.
GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Roadkill wrote:That people are so naive to think Hamas/Palestinians and Israel are equally to blame is what is so hard to fathom.
Quite a few SN violins are being played.
I certainly hope you aren’t talking about me there numbnuts, all violence is wrong but successive Israel governments have perfected the art of making the most of each and every crisis since the 67 war screwing over the Palestinians as they pleased, this war is just the latest example
Is defensive violence wrong? The use of force for protection wrong?
You’re as sharp as a bowling ball no doubt about it
Yeah, you didn’t answer the question…..
Have already done so many times above since this started, clearly your memory and/or attention span isn’t as it should be and hence my bowling ball comment …. Unless you’re wanting to discuss Israel’s MO of disproportionate use of lethal force against the innocent Palestinian citizens trapped in Gaza.
Ok, don’t answer.
To answer your question. Yes, I am including you as being played.
Has anyone read The General’s Son by Miko Peled ? Be an interesting read if I can get my hands on a copy . https://www.amazon.com/Generals-Son-Journey-Israeli-Palestine/dp/1682570029
From the article..
"So how the hell does a Palestinian tractor move towards the fence without anyone reacting to it?
"How did the tractor manage to sabotage the fence for a long hour and open access to Israel without anyone reacting to it?
"How did hundreds of terrorists and civilians cross the barrier without anyone on our side lifting a finger?
"How did terrorists arrive on foot and in vehicles, armed from head to toe, to dozens of Israeli settlements, without any reaction from our side?
"How did hundreds of terrorists stay in Israeli territory for long hours, shoot hundreds of Israelis, loot property, without there being even a single reaction on our side?
"How did it happen that hundreds of terrorists kidnapped dozens of Israelis, woke women, children, babies, old people from their beds, surprised soldiers, officers when they were not ready, and kidnapped them to Gaza, without anyone stopping them?
"How is it that one bullet was not fired?
"How did all this happen under our noses?
"Where did an entire division go?
"Where did 3 brigades go?
"Who swallowed 9 battalions?
"What happened to 36 companies?
"Where did an entire regular infantry brigade go that usually outnumbers the elite?
"Where were all the reserve battalions that augment the regular army?
"Where did thousands of soldiers go???
"Someone here needs to provide explanations!!"
Apparently these questions make you a conspiracy theorist?
In case this got missed...
posted a few days ago by @philososurfing...
"Raphael is an Israeli citizen who dedicated his life to listen on (radio waves of) Hamas communications and alert Israeli authorities on his findings, to help protect the Israeli citizens residing in the Gaza envelope. Raphael had prevented and thwarted many security incidents in the past with his work.
Months before the great massacre, his surveillance license was revoked and equipment was seized by the Ministry of Communications after senior security officials were fed up with his warnings. Interestingly, the equipment was returned to him after the Oct. 7th massacre, when the authorities suddenly needed his help.
Raphael identified thousands of transmissions that prove with certainty the existence of Hamas training before the attack, therefore he alerted and informed the IDF and senior security officials in real time. He begged for them to listen and act. He claims the attack could have been prevented if they had just listened. (Source and full video in Hebrew, here)
Raphael described in an earlier interview his disturbing findings of Hamas' detailed planning, including breaching into Israel, massacring, taking hostages and more. (Source: Channel 13 FB page)
Raphael lost 37 friends in the massacre."
https://efrat.substack.com/p/raphael-hayons-story-a-silenced-mission
Surely questions should be asked.
I'm loathe to share skynews...but...
southernraw wrote:From the article..
"So how the hell does a Palestinian tractor move towards the fence without anyone reacting to it?
"How did the tractor manage to sabotage the fence for a long hour and open access to Israel without anyone reacting to it?
"How did hundreds of terrorists and civilians cross the barrier without anyone on our side lifting a finger?
"How did terrorists arrive on foot and in vehicles, armed from head to toe, to dozens of Israeli settlements, without any reaction from our side?
"How did hundreds of terrorists stay in Israeli territory for long hours, shoot hundreds of Israelis, loot property, without there being even a single reaction on our side?
"How did it happen that hundreds of terrorists kidnapped dozens of Israelis, woke women, children, babies, old people from their beds, surprised soldiers, officers when they were not ready, and kidnapped them to Gaza, without anyone stopping them?
"How is it that one bullet was not fired?
"How did all this happen under our noses?
"Where did an entire division go?
"Where did 3 brigades go?
"Who swallowed 9 battalions?
"What happened to 36 companies?
"Where did an entire regular infantry brigade go that usually outnumbers the elite?
"Where were all the reserve battalions that augment the regular army?
"Where did thousands of soldiers go???
"Someone here needs to provide explanations!!"Apparently these questions make you a conspiracy theorist?
I dont have the answers but i have listened to those in the know explaining how the system works and how Hamas over threw it, Hamas were smart they didnt wake up one day and just do it, they regularly triggered off fence censor's over a very long period of time, hence when it happened for real IDF on patrol just thought it was another false alarm, that then allowed them to get take out other censors and cameras etc with drones which allowed them to take out those on patrol and leave them to do pretty much what they wanted.
And being a special Jewish holiday things were lapse.
Obviously still a big failure in the system and government, especially seeing it was some significant date since some other event, so should have been on even higher alert.
Those points might sound good, but some of them also probably aren't true., im sure someone in the know would debunk it all pretty easily and say yeah nah, thats not true, that not true, this is the reason for this and that etc
Its like all the 9/11 stuff, it all sounds great and then you go watch the videos debunking it all and learn how the towers were constructed and basically design and construction weakness, and its like okay that makes much more sense.
You’re not convincing anyone SR. I believe ya. Roadkill reminds me of my old man. Blind belief in his trusted source. Head up arse so much that won’t look at any other anything. Doesn’t want to be changed. Doesn’t want to see the whole picture. Can’t imagine our great guys may in fact be fourexes’s
Indodreaming wrote "Those points might sound good, but some of them also probably aren't true., im sure someone in the know would debunk it all pretty easily and say yeah nah, thats not true, that not true, this is the reason for this and that etc".
Indo, if you have a better source than the bloke writing this, fair enough, but until such a time..
Here's his background.
"I happen to know how things work in Gaza and on the border. I was the commander of the Kerem Shalom sector (Rafiah), I was in charge of Kissuf sector, I know the perimeter fence very well, I know how the army works there. I was in the Shatti refugee camp in Gaza, I was in charge of the Jibaliya refugee camp, I would make ambushes on the fence and deep in the area. I met Gazans, ate and breathed Gaza.
"The obstacle is built so that even a fox cannot pass it:
@seeds, yeah, sometimes you have to realise it's not black and white, two sides. There can be three sides, four sides. Nuances. Unfortunately these aren't explained in the 6pm news.
Thank fug there's crew like yourself and others above that care not only about the Israelis that are dying, but also the Palestinians. I think it's the least we can do to ask questions to put pressure on the forces that somehow allowed this to happen.
You can't get away with murder right?
indo-dreaming wrote:Good to see second day deal went through.
The hostage deals obviously had to happen but the pause is not good news for IDF, Hamas are going to be moving chess pieces around and know exactly where IDF will be going next, Hamas preparation now could result in more IDF deaths and a longer war.
This is spot on, on every point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPv4hJFLQ0I
That’s some serious assumptions put forward as if you’re an inside operative. Haha gotta know everything on everything. Even us supposed Hamas lovers aren’t claiming anyone could now do anything. Hope you’ve got your bib on. Salivating!!!!
Loath to post skynews…..but happy to post some clown’s substack (where he ask supporters to buy him a coffee (by donating $5.00) and support him to continue to bring the real news. Lmao. It’s about your level of comprehension, SR.
Next you will be posting a tictok explaining how Netanyahu invited 3 brigades, 9 battalions and 36 companies to his house for a BBQ so Hamas could attack with no defences firing back.
It was an intelligence failure and a huge amount of incompetence.
southernraw wrote:In case this got missed...
posted a few days ago by @philososurfing...
"Raphael is an Israeli citizen who dedicated his life to listen on (radio waves of) Hamas communications and alert Israeli authorities on his findings, to help protect the Israeli citizens residing in the Gaza envelope. Raphael had prevented and thwarted many security incidents in the past with his work.Months before the great massacre, his surveillance license was revoked and equipment was seized by the Ministry of Communications after senior security officials were fed up with his warnings. Interestingly, the equipment was returned to him after the Oct. 7th massacre, when the authorities suddenly needed his help.
Raphael identified thousands of transmissions that prove with certainty the existence of Hamas training before the attack, therefore he alerted and informed the IDF and senior security officials in real time. He begged for them to listen and act. He claims the attack could have been prevented if they had just listened. (Source and full video in Hebrew, here)
Raphael described in an earlier interview his disturbing findings of Hamas' detailed planning, including breaching into Israel, massacring, taking hostages and more. (Source: Channel 13 FB page)
Raphael lost 37 friends in the massacre."
https://efrat.substack.com/p/raphael-hayons-story-a-silenced-mission
Surely questions should be asked.
Raphael is some sweaty chubby pasty faced gamer that listens to chatter and rings the IDF 3 times a day to say Hamas is attacking. Not the ideal intelligence asset he is being made out to be.
indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:I literally cannot stop thinking of the horrors some of those hot festival chicks must have faced...
fucking monkey behaviour
sad pathetic monkeys
There is about 240 hostages but Hamas claim to not have that many, it wasn't just Hamas who breached the border it was other similar groups and just individuals, its completely realistic that some of these hot chicks are now private sex slaves or taken back raped and killed.
Anyone else find these two comments just fucking weird. Like real seedy weird, like a pair of real seedy cunts.
Roadkill wrote:southernraw wrote:In case this got missed...
posted a few days ago by @philososurfing...
"Raphael is an Israeli citizen who dedicated his life to listen on (radio waves of) Hamas communications and alert Israeli authorities on his findings, to help protect the Israeli citizens residing in the Gaza envelope. Raphael had prevented and thwarted many security incidents in the past with his work.Months before the great massacre, his surveillance license was revoked and equipment was seized by the Ministry of Communications after senior security officials were fed up with his warnings. Interestingly, the equipment was returned to him after the Oct. 7th massacre, when the authorities suddenly needed his help.
Raphael identified thousands of transmissions that prove with certainty the existence of Hamas training before the attack, therefore he alerted and informed the IDF and senior security officials in real time. He begged for them to listen and act. He claims the attack could have been prevented if they had just listened. (Source and full video in Hebrew, here)
Raphael described in an earlier interview his disturbing findings of Hamas' detailed planning, including breaching into Israel, massacring, taking hostages and more. (Source: Channel 13 FB page)
Raphael lost 37 friends in the massacre."
https://efrat.substack.com/p/raphael-hayons-story-a-silenced-mission
Surely questions should be asked.Raphael is some sweaty chubby pasty faced gamer that listens to chatter and rings the IDF 3 times a day to say Hamas is attacking. Not the ideal intelligence asset he is being made out to be.
Any chance you could write a reply to a post without making it a personal attack and perhaps maybe even make it somewhat civil?
Until then you're not worth actually engaging with.
soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:I literally cannot stop thinking of the horrors some of those hot festival chicks must have faced...
fucking monkey behaviour
sad pathetic monkeys
There is about 240 hostages but Hamas claim to not have that many, it wasn't just Hamas who breached the border it was other similar groups and just individuals, its completely realistic that some of these hot chicks are now private sex slaves or taken back raped and killed.
Anyone else find these two comments just fucking weird. Like real seedy weird, like a pair of real seedy cunts.
Yeah SD, that was my initial reaction too.
Was a pretty weird thing to think and say.
Some pretty rotten assumptions. “It’s completely realistic”
absolutely weird comments, @soggydog, glad it wasn't just me who thought so.
southernraw wrote:soggydog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:sypkan wrote:I literally cannot stop thinking of the horrors some of those hot festival chicks must have faced...
fucking monkey behaviour
sad pathetic monkeys
There is about 240 hostages but Hamas claim to not have that many, it wasn't just Hamas who breached the border it was other similar groups and just individuals, its completely realistic that some of these hot chicks are now private sex slaves or taken back raped and killed.
Anyone else find these two comments just fucking weird. Like real seedy weird, like a pair of real seedy cunts.
Yeah SD, that was my initial reaction too.
Was a pretty weird thing to think and say.
I too thought that and a return for @info to his very creepy dandy market fantasy
Roadkill wrote:It was an intelligence failure and a huge amount of incompetence.
Haha. A huge amount of incompetence.
Well ahhh...yeah. That's kinda what we're getting at here.
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