Freedom of speech

some just have a way with words....

The Swell-Nut free speech festival. I like it. Tony Barber can be the MC. Soup-Can on the merch ("Let's Make Australia Grate Again"). Indo on the satays. Blowie can sort the booze (no Bintang swill, but.... Get some real Aussie gear).

This fuckwit the keynote speaker.

I hear you shats, and I understand why you are getting the shits. But, I also understand why the blowie twins (oops shit... sorry stuie... what have you done with Richo's trophy by the way), zeno and co love blowies dribble. Its their classic line, actually, their anthem, one I know you've heard many times too. The good 'ol 'shoulda seen me last wave aye!' Not realising, that we didn't actually drive off, we snuck back to the cliff edge to watch that majestic last wave. That last ludicrous drubbing. Where lip, board, body and reef become one. Followed by bouncing down the reef, and final flushing out into the bay... commonly called a wash through. Some have perfected it. As you know, its the ultimate entertainment, as when they finally arrive back in the pub (too late for the meals), you can barely contain your excitement as you wonder what kind of mind boggling bullshit they will concoct.

As you lovingly throw your last plate of food to the dogs, in front of the starving, bedraggled and splattered blowie, you just happen to push play, and say (knowing full well they got pile driven for hours on end), 'gidday 'cobber' have a good surf?

And the entertainment begins. 'Shoulda seen me last wave aye!'

Still, no need for everyone to get stuck on this thread, the swillnut injury thread is becoming infamous in fitness circles. Endless tales of horrific, life threatening injuries, always accompanied by excruciating, barely tolerable pain, oh the pain, and of course, the, that, yes 'that wipeout'. Again, an incredible, stand alone tale. A wipe out that would have been the ride of the decade, and would have killed a lesser mortal. If it wasn't for... Yes, and then the miracles. the oh so incredible miracles. Completely pain racked specimens, using zen like qualities to battle on while their bodies are torn and maimed with such brutal force, that they may not even survive, let alone ever shred again. Then, in a flash, sometimes only days later, but usually a week or two, these pain scale 20/10, horrific injuries are magically cured! Tales of giant bandaids, showers, walks with tai chi experts, magical pills... the list is endless! Then the disgusting, nauseating tales of grown men being rescued in the surf by their wives, of accident and emergency centre carparks across the nation being swamped by surfees wives, dragging their squealing, blubbering, swillnutting double decker blowie husbands across the asphalt.

On second thought, don't go there its disgusting. Excuse me while I ring a counsellor.

You just made me snort my cuppa.

Ha ha not quite but sorta heading down the same road ........................black writing on a white screen really fires some people up to the point they depart from the meaning of life........strange thing the internet

Very strange indeed.

But wonderful all the same.

No doubt there are those thinking, sure herc, like shit like that is ever gonna happen in real life! And I don't blame them. However, I didn't have to hunt very long to find this gem. As they say, truth is often stranger than fiction!

https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2016/07/26/9-worst-wipeo...

And, back to the counsellor I go. Since she's seen all this swillnutting, she's seeking counselling too.

Hah ha! Oh that was aimed at me?

Well, I still don't have my full range of movement but then again I'm not sure which of your online personas I should consult?

Maybe some people actually surf, take off, not pull back, fall off from time to time, even (take a deep breath now) have fun. You should try surfing one day, it's really super.

Or, I could sit here furtively searching for past links, irrelevent avant guarde authors and bore the living shit out people.

But don't fret big fella, I enjoyed a couple of your posts in treaty as I have others from time to time. Just not now, you've gone back to being boring.

Freedom of speech?? I wish someone had read me my rights before I came here , It appears to me that, Anything I say can and will be used against me in a swellnet kangaroo court of law. I,ll be sure to moderate any personal thoughts from here on in to suit the current narratives, and choose my words very carefully , if it all. But I guess Ive stuck my foot in it now and am open to as much scrutiny and vitriol as the next anonymous bloke. Freedom of speech? where? . Pass the popcorn please

'Well, I still don't have my full range of movement but then again I'm not sure which of your online personas I should consult?'

What! But you are so young! in your prime! Fuck, imagine being injured,and surfing dribble at that age! Boring!!! Imagine surfing dribble, or being injured at any age for that matter! Now that's real fucking boring! Swatted double decker blowies! No thanks!!!

Please don't make things worse zenny. And please don't reopen the treaty thread. Yes I wrote on that, about Traditional Indigenous Culture. But, all that did is get the double decker blowies buzzing and swarming. Thank God your and Stuie's 'cobber' understudy, deputy blowie, who has made such heartfelt, sincere efforts to learn about Traditional Indigenous Cultures, or 'garbage', as he describes it so lovingly, and to really understand their pain, was there at that Cultural Sensitivity talk, to give that uppity darkie a good 'ol uncle whitey flogging with his 'olive branch'!

I wish you had come to blax zennie, it would have been so, so much fun! I think you would have been 'bored' and drilled very quickly though! Still plenty of time for some drillings though, at your young age! It aint the yappamoto flats shorey!

It ain't rocket science, TubeShooter:

Say what the fuck ya want, but...

Realise the power of language especially when it's 'legitimated' through certain vessels, like these threads.

Own your opinion.

Take responsibility. Be accountable.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility and accountability.

If ya get called out on stuff, so be it...

"Thank God...deputy blowie, who has made such heartfelt, sincere efforts to learn about Traditional Indigenous Cultures, or 'garbage', as he describes it so lovingly, and to really understand their pain, was there at that Cultural Sensitivity talk, to give that uppity darkie a good 'ol uncle whitey flogging with his 'olive branch'!"

Ya gotta laugh.

"Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility and accountability."

of course to be accountable one needs to actually state a position of sorts. its the bit called an 'opinion'. some find it harder than others because they dont have anything to write, other than paying out on others on 'legitimate' SN vessels.

and one would think that posting your thoughts on an anonymous website really wouldnt be all that hard.

Herc / SB I am new here but interested in your posts.

Opinion.........both of you are running seriously conflicting behaviors which is not healthy.

So interested in why, what's your point what's the outcome you are looking for?

"say what the fuck ya want, but".. theres always a but..And I,m not taking a side here..I honestly haven't been a follower long enough here to know shit from clay as far as anyones comment history goes , but I agree with the accountability thing,If your going to say something have a plausible reason for doing so. Having said that I guess anyone who disagrees with my shit on an anonymous forum can huff and puff and try to blow my house down all they like. At the end of the day its just hot air ,. But I thought this thread was about free speech and not just a continuation of the "treaty" thread.. My bad , I'll just go and face the corner and think about what I,ve just said.

folc, in all seriousness, I think that you are full of shit. If you aren't reread what I said, and if you still don't get it, go back to grade 1, and re-enroll in reading comprehension.

"Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility and accountability."

of course to be accountable one needs to actually state a position of sorts. its the bit called an 'opinion'. some find it harder than others because they dont have anything to write, other than paying out on others on 'legitimate' SN vessels.

and one would think that posting your thoughts on an anonymous website really wouldnt be all that hard.'

I posted stuff about nutrition on here once. I backed it with 45 years experience, personal and working in the field, and supported it with an article from a world renown nutritionist. A leading swillnut with no experience working in the field, and fuck all personal experience in comparison, pointed out a major error in the article, then saying based on that error, my argument could not be taken seriously. When it was clearly shown that no, to the contrary, the woman was actually correct, and due to a total lack of knowledge or understanding of what she was talking about, he was completely wrong, rather than own that, then consider the points, the swillnut went on page after page of ludicrous drivvle, backed by no experience, no qualifications, and a major bungle. I love a good laugh, so obviously you can't deal with drivvle seriously, so its a gloves off drivvlefest.

Only fairly recently, sheriff stuie and his posse of double decker blowies laid down the law, claiming that twinnies are 'shit' in barrels and solid waves. And then when real, valid cases of legendary surfers owning barrels and bombs on twinnies are presented, even to the point of sheriff stuie drooling about and interviewing a genuine surfing legend, who next thing is telling him about a twinnie that he won a barrel riding comp on, that he considers the best board ever in the barrel, stuie and the doubedecker blowie swillnuts go on another drivvling rant of closed discussion denial. Even when presented with video evidence.

https://www.swellnet.com/forums/shaping-bay/327238?page=1

https://www.swellnet.com/news/talking-heads/2017/05/18/tuesday-richo

'The common belief is that twin fins are only for when it’s small, mushy and onshore, but four-time world champ (on a twin fin), Mark Richards, says in Simon Anderson’s Thrust that twin fins work best in hollower, more powerful conditions. Could this be true?

Stab, Craig Anderson, Ozzie Wright and Damion Fuller aka The Boardcollector grabbed six vintage twin fins from different shapers, from different places, all with different design features, and headed into the desert with host Ry Craike, to find some barrels and put the ideas to the test. Despite a swell prediction of eight-to-10 feet, Craig requested 5’7” to 5’10”s and Ozzie asked for 5’3” to 5’7”s…'

Full feature and breakdown of each board in Stab's summer Big Book, out this month.

If your gonna squwark and strut, in the real world, you better have more than drivvle to back it. On the net, its a different story, a hand full of doubledecker blowies, soaked in drivvle will do it. Thats swillnuts in a nutshell.

Herc ( Uplift ) - What the fuck would you know about grade 1 ?

I've been told you were made to repeat kindergarten till they refused to make you a 38 inch waist uniform .

https://m.

I came top of my school and am on the Dean's Honour Roll several times for academic excellence, double decker blowie. If you would like to back your squwark and put some substance behind it for once, double decker blowie, say $100,000.00, please lets get it on. If not, thanks for the perfect example of actual swillnut, doubledecker blowie no substance drivvle. Commonly called the classic squwark down.

Just what I've heard , mate .

But then I'd also heard ( from yourself ) that blowins kept trying to paddle inside you at Blax - even though you'd told us you were as deep as possible .

Obviously one of those (your ) statements is a fib.

Care to 'fess up ?

C'mon cobber , we understand . Sometimes it's hard to accept the fact that a life ain't all lifting inanimate objects under fluorescent lights.....sometimes there is real challenges to confront.

It's okay to cry .

You're amongst friends .

https://m.

And, there it is, on cue, limp dick, no substance, double decker blowie drivvle. On tap. Swillnuts in a nutshell. Not so keen to go son? Easy to set up. I'll give your solicitor my bank details, a quick $100,00 direct deposit will do it. What's a hundred grand to a world traveller? You'll be ok without it. You'll still have gallons and gallons and gallons of drivvle up your sleeves to survive on.

Fair enough , Lifty .

You've got me bang to rights.

Here's my solicitors number : https://m.

Oh dear. Publically owned. Planted in a crack in the limestone. I own you now double decker blowie. You came so cheap too. I didn't even get warmed up. Your swillnut double decker blowie drivvle, is just a dead man walking. Walk that way son. Good boy! Doomed to be a swillnut forever.

Herc if you are talking to me thing is I do get and it is serious, nothing to do with what you think.

It's your beliefs are clearly at odds with your behavior .

Conflicts of this nature are serious.

Feel free to hurl more abuse insults what ever its a clear window into you, I am never going to measure my self worth from your opinion.

Again what's the point of your posts have you weighed up the endgame?

Why are you so worried and concerned about my posts focs? What's the point for you to choose to feel like that?

And, what have you got behind you, to substantiate that your opinion has any real substance, accuracy or merit focs?

Why do I feel like that.........I am a human, another face in the crowd, nothing more, no agenda, no ego (here) to feed etc.....really strange eh......... maybe this won't ever happen to you again....ever, oh I am a old bloke too.

It's really basic stuff no deep pysho babble nothing just common sense............when there is a really large gap between belief in your case I take it you have high moral standards and actually give a fu(k and then hurl abuse, scorn, sarcasm etc you then fail your own belief........conflict 101 this leads to dissonance.

The point of life apparently is to be happy.........dissonance won't allow that.

'Why do I feel like that'

Because for some reason, you choose to, is the only real answer focs. You have infinite choice. Don't give away yours, or shy away from owning your choice to feel upset. Its that simple.

I feel good about expressing what I think about the difference between swillnut drivvle, and true, open conversation based on substance, and then having that choice so beautifully demonstrated by drivvling swillnut, double decker blowies. If I choose to join in drivvle, with others who make the same drivvling choice, its no big deal to me.

The fact that you want it to be a big deal to you, and continually choose to be upset, is your only real concern focs. You, can't be upset. Not you, your ego, can an is. Its always a choice to play. Let your worries and fear about 'dissonance' go. And you'll be free of it. You are thinking like a kid playing lions and tigers, and suddenly believing a real tiger is after you, and being consumed by it, lost to it. When, your belief, is simply not true.

True. Opinions also vary in how much fact and substance is behind them. Again, another true story, easy to 100% validate with a bit of research. If I say, weight training to build muscle enhances surfing, and protects from injury and imbalance, based on 45 plus years of experience, including teaching it, lecturing and assessing in it, teaching and assessing lecturers, training and rehabilitating huge, huge amounts of people over that time in all sorts of endeavors, including surfing, and gauging their real world results, and some one directly disputes that, I'm happy to hear why. Again, a true story on the swillnuts, if that why, that opinion, is 'bruce lee didn't use any weights' so they are useless', and with minimal effort I show well, no, that's actually not remotely true, he loved using them, promoted their use, and loved demonstrating and showing his added muscle and improved physique, which actually caused a stir among the martial arts world. And provide numerous links and references which comprehensively back that up, which then results in page after page of double decker blowie swillnut drivvle, completely avoiding the truth, whilst still entirely based on that totally incorrect premise, then that opinion offered in a conversation supposedly interested in that subject, has no substance.

Speaking of avoiding truth, and lovable hilarity, reams of swillnut double decker blowie drivvle etc, my goodness. Oh my goodness. Twinnies at Nias, in barrels, take a back seat for just a bit longer (forever hopefully for some). But that aside, isn't this exciting news for surfers wishing to rehab and prevent injuries, and improve performance. I'll spring (with no regrets, in an uninjured way) out of the way, in case I'm trampled in the rush, and deafened by the roar of open conversation(s)!

'At 49 years old my only regret is not starting Kieser 20 years ago.'

http://www.kieser.com.au/client-stories/ross-clarke-jones

I've got to stop telling the truth, its against the law! No regrets though!

I fought the law and the law won,you better get a lawyer son. Interesting thread this one.

You and SB care about stuff that's a big deal, if you didn't I wouldn't bother you would be just another very immature male on a forum with a behavior issue for what reason who knows.

I know I cannot change your behavior that's not an opinion that's a fact.

But I can talk about consequences of what your behavior is doing, what you are saying is pretty much irrelevant your construct and choice of words actually convey a lot of a insight to what you are about.

Google "cognitive dissonance" its main stream stuff the result from this can be basically really bad decisions when you behavior and beliefs don't align something you already know but lack consciousness of it the phase "living a lie" etc you have heard before and all the bad things that come along.......Karama

You talk about choice which is really interesting, I asked what's the endgame / outcome you expect from your posts, maybe Blowin begging forgiveness, everyone here cheering you on what is it you want?
Have you told your brain what you want? You know the goal setting thing.

Makes no difference It will happily make decisions on your behalf any way.........then we get back to dissonance...........and bad decisions

There is no endgame IFo, it's the internet for goodness sake.

Don't take it to heart mate, it'll do your head in. From time to time, amongst all the fluff, bluff, banter, bravado and noise, there's juicy little nuggets of goodness. It's up to you to decide which.

Now run along young man, go and get some waves.

Btw, how good is Craikey in that vid above. Yew!

Yeah its getting boring isn't it I done no more lectures.

"Btw, how good is Craikey in that vid above. Yew!"

Zen......healthy alignment of belief and behaviors ha ha

foccuty, I don't have to google cognitive dissonance, I studied it formally, for several years, along with behavioural science when I became a qualified counsellor. I studied it because changing patterns of behaviour is key to successful Personal Training. I am a very successful personal trainer, in an industry with an alarming several month drop out rate. At over 60, with 45 years experience, fully booked, and with a waiting list of clients, I am a rarity in the industry.

What is your background, training and experience in 'cognitive dissonance', and understanding its meaning and use folcer? What results have you achieved to support your argument?

Your extremely blinkered approach stands out most foccer, you ignore reams and reams and reams of the the very thing you are swillnut double decker blowie drivelling about, by reams and reams and reams of double decker blowie swillnuts. Your blinkered fixation on myself is unhealthy foccer, and as I have much experience, training, and success in sifting through dribble to get to the nitty gritty, something stinks foccer. I can smell your bullshit and double decker blowie swillnut drivvling a mile away.

And zenny and foccer, it's my pleasure to present an evidence based, balanced view regarding swillnut double decker blowie banned and despised twinnies. I actually took a stab in the dark, and lo and behold, 'karma' takes its course in the form of a cosmic, heartfelt and heartwarming, very excited 'yew'!

You know what! Let's not waste this pivotal moment! That the Cosmos has magically provided! Let's throw egos and google aside for one, almighty moment! Look around swillnuts, embrace your fellow swillnuts, join hands or screens, and also let's reach out to the formerly despised stabber's, who, despite being labeled as horrible, stinky, inferior cretins, have reached out, and given us balance, and love and unboring yews, seeking nothing in return. Let's reach out across the waves, through the screens and join hearts and hands, and let out an almighty, unbridled, heartfelt yew! Let's all reclaim the claim, that was stolen from us! Together, as one! No need to tell kochie, no need to tell 60 minutes, or anyone in the press! On my lead, if your fitness fails you and you can't keep up with me, just do your best! Reach out swillnuts, stabbers, join together, on my lead... 1... 2... 3....

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See dave, no need for lawyers. Just WOW! I need to be alone now swillstabbers. I'm sure you'll understand.

YEW!

Btw IFo, don't worry, that big raw-boned, chiselled man-specimen above and I are great mates.

I'd gladly buy him a meal anyday- just have to book a table for eight:)

It's all about human ego not human discourse. A waste of time.

that's not up to your usual standard of humour TonyB, please try better in future!

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christ. i can only hope you two blokes can surf. because your retarded out of the water.

"cognitive dissonance"....by Ralph Lauren. the smell your not 100% sure you like, but will wear it anyway.

...not to be confused with ones own fart.

Cognitive dissonance, hey? Is that like saying something like this,

"So after post after post after post emphatically displaying compassion towards indigenous Australia and a desire to radically improve their lot"

And then voting for someone like this?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/allanclarke/pauline-hanson-and-indigenous-austr...

Then again, that's some commie website, here's the Daily Mail for balance and THE TRUTH!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3718966/A-look-inside-Pauline-Ha...

Or it could just be complete and utter BULLSHIT all round from the get-go?

"a fear of guns means you're 'sexually retarded' that line made me laugh just for its crude schoolyard manner if nothing else.

Shatner old boy I wouldn't be so harsh on someone just for their voting preference. We all vote for whomever we deem worthy on the day and the fact that One Nation got Blowins vote on one occasion should be more of an indictment on the other rabble than on the voter.

The people I'll be voting for in the next few elections would make democracies founding fathers roll in their graves unless something changes. And that's the truth!

So that's like being someone who's really, really concerned about climate change, even a past Greens voter, and then getting out the pom-poms and cheer-leading for Trump at every given opportunity?

Soup-can, come on dooooowwwwwwwn!

Unless it's all BULLSHIT to begin with?