Freedom of speech
Kochie...slow down, comrade. You spat that out like a flaming hot-rock...going by the funky grammar and spelling and such. Too much 'foily'?
Bernie pushes what? He's the only factor keeping Clinton honest re: trade deals at the mo. I'd trust her as far as I could stretch out the Donald's comb-over though. As for the Donald? His lies make Abbott look like a Jesuit choir-boy. Erm, just don't mention Pell...or Nestor.
Blowie. You're a card. Didn't we have this convo threads ago AND I ASKED YOU WHAT YOU THOUGHT 'GLOBALISATION' WAS? Slipped the memory?
Maybe, for the better, as you can now leave out all the 'nasty' racialist baggage. Multi-culturalism this, and Muslim that. And other tacked-on of late Hanson-isms.
Let's not go there again, huh? Unless you want me to?
Still no discussion worthy: Sanders v Trump? How would've that 'split' the nation's voters?
And what are the implications for a future election here? Labor watched and learned? What have the LNP got out of it all??
sanders v trump I'd say sanders by a mile
I wouldn't have said that before, ya know..sanders the socialist in the U S of A and all that, but trump has proved himself so hopeless and ugly sanders would shoe it in
which shows just how much the democrats have fucked this up...karma perhaps?
labor lnp here?
they've learnt nothing, just like the democrats in US they are all still in denial about the public's rejection of the great liberal internationalists dream
Bangladeshi sweatshops? Fish n chip shops? Knocking shops?
What utter utter drivel.
The 3rd world? Who gives a shit! If they don't want to fix their own problems stuff em. I don't give two hoots what happens in those places. And care even less for the scum that inhabit those places and the lack of guts they have in changing their own circumstances other than to jump on a boat or plane to live off the wealth our WHITE GUYS CREATED!
Feck me you guys are suicidal and have no pride in your own country or have an ability to even think how is it you can write this shittolla? You are very fortunate that you aint sitting down in a sweatshop making me my next pair of nikes! And hurry up about it!
Sanders v Trump, now there's a non issue. Sanders is there for you tt, let's call him a safe space ey. Once all you socialists settle down and stop the "give us free shit" chants, Sanders will roll over and toss you all to Clinton. Oh look, just happened, right there in the shallows while you were out in the deeper water. The messiah Michael Moore just put out a cover of the same tune, just in case you missed bernie's version.
Pell? I thought you were gonna say commet ping pong or Madeleine McCann there for a minute, can you loan us some of your foil
Re: the two comments above...
See young 'uns, see what happens when you get older and more irrelevant and confused and scared and angrier and dumber. Good news is that doesn't have to be you! But you knew that...
Avoid Comb-over Central.
As Yul Brynner baldly said: Don't smoke, whatever you do, don't smoke!
Haha feeeel the bern
In fact, it is the young who are irrelevant. The older crew make all the decisions and hold all the cash. As usual, you live in fantasy land. In fact, I cant think of anyone under the age of 30 who is influencing anything.
Name 10 if you can work out how to use google.
"In fact, it is the young who are irrelevant." Except when they get older...? Jeez.
Speaking of yooth, and generations...
It's all the boomers fault
Not literally, just inadvertently, being a bit overly idealistic and stuff.... and just maybe a bit dumb...
".... - as the generation that failed to live up to it's lofty ideals, but still held fast to it's sense of superiority."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/us/politics/baby-boomers-voters-campai...
Sypo, the baby boomer generation are possibly the most hypocritical destructive greedy nasty generation the world has ever seen...
Did I mention unfair, cheating, smug, narcissistic, holier than thou, pigs at the trough?
But hey, there's good in every crowd.
David Brooks (conservative columnist at the New York Times) writes about the election and raises the same points Zen did. I can actually understand and recognise some of them after reading this but others I still don't get. Anyway, a good read even though it's focused on American politics. And if you're interested, they're giving free access to the nyt for the next couple of days.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/opinion/lets-not-do-this-again.html
And from the other side of the political coin, though also an anti trump piece, Harry Belafonte writes about the social gains we've been talking about , that have perhaps come at the cost of the formerly privileged losing their undeserved status above all others, which are there to be lost in his view.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/opinion/campaign-stops/harry-belafo...
More pertinent to this thread, trump's desire to curb free speech (change llibel laws to sue journos who write stuff he doesn't like) is remarkably scary. Anyway enough US politics, night all.
American politics - 'much to do about nothing'. At last this is all over.
No Tones it has just started, now with so many Trump supporters wanting to wreck the system don't you think a good start would be to (1.) ban all paid political lobbyist in Washington (and here); (2.) end the gerrymanders in America that see Democrats get up to 60% of the local state vote but end up with only 15-20% of the Senators for that state; and (3.) end the practice of banning for life (sounds familiar doesn't it) convicted criminals from voting in elections that allow most southern states to be safe Replication states.
When Trump said the election is rigged he was speaking the truth but not in the way he thought. You see when the right lose by the rules they change the rules to suit themselves .... this is being mirrored here in so many ways.
Yes lets wreck the joint by giving each side of politics a fair and equal 50 / 50 chance .... a very good start
you're kidding yourself tonybarber, this is just the beginning. no matter who wins we're basically locked into a four year election period from tomorrow as both sides go hard
thankfully the press are getting their heads back in order and ffinally realising what's going on. rather than the slur contest we've had they've realised trump is on to something. something that crosses left right up down class colour.
the scary thing is trump could still actually win this thing without the support of his own party. pretty amazing really, with half of his own party voting against itself and he's still in the race. inconceivable really
that's a lot of unity in this divided time
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/08/will-there-b...
How is Triggs doing with that defamation case eh lefties? wahahahhaha
Must be Benpi's mum. Just as smart.
Why not go back and read all that garbage you idiots wrote about how wrong the QUT students were! Wahahahahhaha. Love it. Breathe in deeply now before responding! tehehehhehehe
Parp!
Breathe in deeply, Stu-bags.
Oh great, centrelink's open
happy job-hunting, Kochie.
Don't let the bastards grind ya down, comrade.
Sypkan, the US elections is more complex than just Trump or Hillary. There is still the house of reps and the senate. yes, as a spectacle, it has been amazing even by most of us a thousand miles away. You can imagine the effect it has on the Yankees themselves.
I will say, one positive point - this election has been the highest turn out of voters for the US ! Thats gotta be good for democracy.
Bye Bye Triggsy. The indigenous are not happy how they were hooked into signing a complaint re Leaks cartoon.
You mean the 'blacks', Tory Baabaa?
Blacks is fine. Depends which black of course. May have to ask Ms Prior.
Tory, you seem red-hot on this HRC stuff, a veritable fount of knowledge. How come we hear so much about Triggs? Who was the previous HR Commish? My search engine is kaputt at the minute.
Kaput? Is that another word for "my time on the Centrelink computer is up"
Sypkan, according to Hartcher (Fairfax) - The (Reserve bank) governor, Philip Lowe, said last week that the advent of a Trump presidency would be a shock to global markets and “wouldn’t be as benign” as the market response to Brexit. He said the central bank had no “Trump plan” but did have a “generic plan” for responding to shocks.
A 'shock' but seems not a big 'shock'.
Actually, interesting etymology round the word.
"Kaput originated with a card game called piquet that has been popular in France for centuries. French players originally used the term "capot" to describe both big winners and big losers. To win all twelve tricks in a hand was called "faire capot" ("to make capot"), but to lose them all was known as "être capot" ("to be capot"). German speakers adopted "capot," but respelled it "kaputt," and used it only for losers. When English speakers borrowed the word from German, they started using "kaput" for things that were broken, useless, or destroyed."
So, Kaputt, I mean Kochie, ihr Trumpf ist kaput, ja?
Oi TB, you seem red-hot on this HRC stuff, a veritable fount of knowledge. How come we hear so much about Triggs? Who was the previous HR Commish?
Finally, Triggsy is recommending a change in the law and its wording but all too late. The Aboriginal Council has already done its cash.
The Tones is red hot on Triggs and the HRC and 18C while ignoring in the Bolt case he got his facts wrong, the HRC hears over 20,000 cases a year and all we hear about is 3 white QUT students with big mouths supported on the downlow by conservatives and that cartoon case which will be thrown out on 18D and the fact that the HRC cannot force the "warring parties" into conciliation meaning if one side wants to force a point ........ eeeerrrrr lets say 3 white prig students, the HRC has no say or role or control over it going to court ........
Is this the same sort of parallel universe of reality that Brandis operates in when he misled parliament about the now former Solicitor General?
Oh by the way Tones, Triggs has been asking for changes to the law around these extreme cases for sometime without a response from Brandis (busy bullshitting to parliament) but lets not let the truth get in the way of your bullshit good story.
Got news for you Tones, Triggs will have to be blasted out, she aren't going anywhere so you will have to hold off on the premature elation
Voyd you moronic piece of lickspittle. 20,000 cases not heard in public. Why don't you just move to Nth Korea.
Watch a large number of those 20,000 cases now come into the public domain.
3 loud mouth students that would break all your teeth if you had the balls to say it to their faces. The left, what utter filth. IMO You have no right to live in Australia with the views you hold.
Lets see what a big gob you have if the political dynamic moves back to people who love their country and free speech.
Since when is a person wanting balance and truth in policy making belonging to the "utter filth left" Whatever that means.
Hey disco you have a lot to say about everything, what's your view of the jellybacked rednecks who have to hide their faces at their race hate demos. You know defenders of the Australia they love but no-one else recognises. The Victorian Government has just announced a doubling of the likely jail terms for these piss weak cowards who can only yell out and communicate using single syllable words.
You must be talking about the antifa scum are you floyd? Turn up inciting violence, doing the dirty work for the rest of you socialists who can only manage passive aggressive political correctness spat from your safe spaces.
Floyd- Don't you mean those gutless Getup wankers pushing old men with hankys covering their face at Cronulla not that long ago.
Floyd it is people like you that keep racism alive. There should not have been a computer room based on race. That is racism at the highest level. The aboriginal community are some of the biggest racist of all.
TRUMP!
Next up an aussie trump! And then a chance for aboriginals to try and join the rest of Australia. No more funding, no more land claims by nomadic people, no more made up welcome to country crap!
No more mussies getting antsy. All off the public purse and where will they go? Jail or back to Pittsville.
How dja loik dem apples lefties? tehehehehehhhehe
Trumpy coming to a suburb near you.
Yep, a bloke on here - Batfink - had you pegged as soon as you surfaced, Disco...
"Not as dumb as you look, but not as smart as you think"
Just the one comment and then no more of his time directed at you.
De fun IS done.
Fear and separation win again. Humanity makes me laugh as the way it behaves has to be a joke doesn't it! Have bloody ha.
Fear and what? WAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Laughing alright.
Here is a tissue precious. The joke is you.
Dude, the only joke is the fact that you still think theses elections are "left v right". that's so last century, but you're a last century guy. I agree with the theory that elections are now being fought on class, not "left" or "right"..... People are let down by both sides of politics.... Along comes a guy who detonated a bomb in the republican right, destroyed their protege's, and now took out a corporate puppet...
If you feel like a "right winner", pissco, you're probably the sort of wanker Trump would love to bury. bahahahaha.
But hey, enjoy, if that's all you have in life.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
You cant even write anything approaching coherence.
Getting to ya is it?
Climate change? Its now going to be called "THE WEATHER"! Like it always was!
WAHAHAHHAHHAHAH Shagger, SHAGGER, SHAGGED, SHAGGED!
Claiming a victory for the right bahahahahahahahahaha
And here's disco stu claiming a heavy barrel....
Oh and if you paid attention, you'd know I'm a global warming skeptic bahahahahahaha
Oh what a fucktard.
I cant be assed reading all your bollocks Shagger. My chopsticks are smarter than you!
As soon as I see your name my fingers get itchy!
Keep it up squire. The left is dead!
Marie le pen next! Wilders after that!
You had better practise those head dips a little deeper if you really want to hide. Appropriate equipment for you as well! hehehehehhehehhehee
Try laying off the pies fatty!
Disco biscuit I'd say your fingers get itchy from your unhygenic keyboard, where you seem to spend most of your time.
A free speech experiment?
https://www.surfinglife.com.au/2017/02/24/29648/lennox-surfcams-steve-sh...
What is freedom of speech?