Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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Mal Caithness1 Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 8:46pm

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Mal Caithness1 Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 8:49pm

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southernraw Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 8:46pm

Carn fellas @seeds @jf
Real names to your posts if you're going to go toe to toe with someone willing to use theirs.
Fairs fair eh?

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seeds Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 8:50pm

Look I’m very impressed by Mal’s firefighting and his Blood Bike stuff especially. Very admirable!
But it seems it comes with a caveat that if he doesn’t get enough pats on the back his ego goes rogue. Humble he is not.

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Mal Caithness1 Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 8:51pm

Convinced now they're both bots.

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southernraw Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 8:57pm

haha. You know more about him than me @seeds, but i never did get around to googling him but have read the comments from those that did.
The power of knowing someones identity eh? Definitely gives you an opportunity for a few cheap shots without consequences.

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seeds Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 9:00pm

Blowin posted the fire fighting story. Bloody good work by Mal and his mate.
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/builders-battle-wa-blaze/1196...

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Mal Caithness1 Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 9:45pm

Humility is an emotion shared amongst those that have mutual respect with each other that has been earned & not contrived or perceived. Often thru varying circumstances that sometimes are good or can be sometimes catastrophic. It doesn't detract from the importance of actual fact. Fvcking snipe dogs on online forums that make calls based on anonymity & "Google" searches to base their inferences aren't part of, but ARE the fucking problem.
Their accusations are moot because they aren't identifiable due to lack of credibility by aliases. Ego is not a dirty word if it's healthy ,& backed by credible
outcomes in life's important moments., sometimes even when the shits hitting the fan. Fools, as we now can see are many, & if you wanna tolerate then that's up to you. Fvck, give em 3 chances, if they don't match up, jettison them. Some of the best wingmen you'll find in life make it after initial failing.
Call out bullshit for what it is without fear or favour however the most important thing is firmly shake a man's hand, look him in the eye & treat him the way you'd expect to be treated. Something that is lost in the online world. Not gonna wimp out, fuck you idiot naysayer jokes here in this realm. Didn't wanna upset ur little echo chamber world & lap dog pack, nah that's bullshit, I did, there are other opinions that hold true regardless of your biases. All good if you wanna identify yourselves but you use an avatar, so fucking lame. You now all know who I am, some of you "apparently" know all my life defining moment's ( cause you Googled it, hahahaha) How bout you look me up here or invite meto have a beer with you when I'm in ur neck of the woods. Fuckwit's need not apply, but hey I'd still be happy to see who YOU are behind your psuedonym, helps my bullshit detector stay in tune. quote=seeds]Look I’m very impressed by Mal’s firefighting and his Blood Bike stuff especially. Very admirable!
But it seems it comes with a caveat that if he doesn’t get enough pats on the back his ego goes rogue. Humble he is not.

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AlfredWallace Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 9:46pm
Mal Caithness1 wrote:

AW, you've just lined up to be the King of the Knockem Down Clown's, perfect timing. Axolotls & firemen now?, my legendary status surpasses reality. The keyboard warrior psuedonym man bag's have been whipped so much into a frenzy they're salivating like a quadriplegic at a blue movie. Pathetic mate. Never wanted to be a role model & never wanted to draw the same lines ( as a surfer) as anybody else. Achieved, period. So don't give a fvck about " half of the regular Swellnet contributors". Do you guys or have you even surfed? Not ever been found wanting when that question was asked. You do you ...

Mal. Hi. Born on the Great Ocean Road and I’m on a surfers website.

I’m sure you can join the dots.

You bagged the fuck out of an individual a while ago, for what, just having a crack and for no other reason than the focus was on her, and for most of us, we thought she did ok, but for some reason you didn’t, fine your opinion.

Then Slackjawedyokel pipes up with your historical anthology which you just fuelled, to be honest, hilarious.

I’m yet to see or hear anything from you of interest, except your self interest , which seems to appear everytime you scribe, there appears to be something heroic in most posts.

I wouldn’t mind engaging with you on topics of interest, if you have any.

What’s life like around Marg’s, the environment, building, population expansion, community, flora, fauna, vineyards etc. I’m sure you know

Don’t you have anything else to offer but stories of your accolades.

You’ve mentioned several times of late that you use your own name, your prerogative. Doesn’t mean we need to @SouthernRaw @ Mal Caithness 1

Seeds, you cracked me up with the Maroochydore Cricket Club comment.

I’d like to know if it’s still 6 and OUT if you hit it over the fence.

Lighten up Mal, we are just blokes having fun, we’re not arse licking dogs.

Life’s too short to be hard and serious.

Surely there’s some common ground amongst all of us. But as you state, not us, you can say whatever you want until you get banned. Stu, he’s got the sledgehammer. All the best AW.

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Mal Caithness1 Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 9:58pm

AW In another world I was a professional surfing commentator & base my quotes on previous said surfer through personal experiences. My call. I'll live by my own insights.Dont wanna rock ur boat about ur own perceptions, your entitled to ur own opinion.Leave it at that.

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Mal Caithness1 wrote:

AW, you've just lined up to be the King of the Knockem Down Clown's, perfect timing. Axolotls & firemen now?, my legendary status surpasses reality. The keyboard warrior psuedonym man bag's have been whipped so much into a frenzy they're salivating like a quadriplegic at a blue movie. Pathetic mate. Never wanted to be a role model & never wanted to draw the same lines ( as a surfer) as anybody else. Achieved, period. So don't give a fvck about " half of the regular Swellnet contributors". Do you guys or have you even surfed? Not ever been found wanting when that question was asked. You do you ...

Mal. Hi. Born on the Great Ocean Road and I’m on a surfers website.

I’m sure you can join the dots.

You bagged the fuck out of an individual a while ago, for what, just having a crack and for no other reason than the focus was on her, and for most of us, we thought she did ok, but for some reason you didn’t, fine your opinion.

Then Slackjawedyokel pipes up with your historical anthology which you just fuelled, to be honest, hilarious.

I’m yet to see or hear anything from you of interest, except your self interest , which seems to appear everytime you scribe, there appears to be something heroic in most posts.

I wouldn’t mind engaging with you on topics of interest, if you have any.

What’s life like around Marg’s, the environment, building, population expansion, community, flora, fauna, vineyards etc. I’m sure you know

Don’t you have anything else to offer but stories of your accolades.

You’ve mentioned several times of late that you use your own name, your prerogative. Doesn’t mean we need to @SouthernRaw @ Mal Caithness 1

Seeds, you cracked me up with the Maroochydore Cricket Club comment.

I’d like to know if it’s still 6 and OUT if you hit it over the fence.

Lighten up Mal, we are just blokes having fun, we’re not arse licking dogs.

Life’s too short to be hard and serious.

Surely there’s some common ground amongst all of us. But as you state, not us, you can say whatever you want until you get banned. Stu, he’s got the sledgehammer. All the best AW.

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seeds Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 10:10pm

Humility, or even humbleness, is not an emotion. It’s a character trait.

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southernraw Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 10:14pm
AlfredWallace][quote=Mal Caithness1 wrote:

"You’ve mentioned several times of late that you use your own name, your prerogative. Doesn’t mean we need to @SouthernRaw @ Mal Caithness 1"
Nah not at all AW. Just when it comes to continually belittling someone who's using their real name. It's a bit like a sniper. I think its only fair to man up and put your own identity and credentials on the table. Otherwise, anonymity can be enjoyed if it's a fair transaction between punters who aren't out to tarnish the others name.
And fwiw, i've put my real name up here many times and would happily do it again. Nothing to hide from my end. And erm....my real name kinda got a naughty cross against it by SN anyway.
Mal you're always welcome for a wave or a beer if you're ever down Sth.
Most crew over East don't realise WA is a very small surf community. Everyone knows everyone. You definitely aren't hiding behind a keyboard over here. hahaha. I know i'm not anonymous.

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Mal Caithness1 Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 10:26pm

Your opinion not mine[ Seen it many a time in a fleeting moment amongst individuals but rarely as
character trait. We're all flawed, take ur sniping shit elsewhere. Zzzzzzzz quote=seeds]Humility, or even humbleness, is not an emotion. It’s a character trait.

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seeds Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 10:36pm

Aww gawwd.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 23 Jun 2024 at 11:58pm

Oct 2023 CHO calls end to Covid
2024 Feds geared down servicing Aged care with $960 to Aug > split over monthly Res payments.
Aged care providers are claiming it costs more to service [+] patients ...during recent outbreaks...
This kinda triggered a mini War with Feds during the current outbreaks...about Prevention = Vax!

May 2024 CHO + Safety Com' writes to a/c providers about low Vax rate
AC Minister says Families should talk to residents / care teams about getting Vaxes now!
Feds did a few raids to bust some arses...
https://insideageing.com.au/unannounced-visits-put-covid-preparedness-of...
Also prepared a How to talk 'em around to Covid Vax Tool Kit...to counter Vax hesitancy!
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-06/aged-care-covid-19...
Providers equally say Govt should promote the Vax as before to give them support!

70% of AC [+] cases were scripted with AV doses (Note : 6 month max interval between AV also!)
https://www.smh.com.au/national/revealed-the-aged-care-homes-failing-to-...

[factcheck]
Above Oz average boosted A/C States [+] cases were higher than Winter 2023 with more Vax
Below Oz average boosted A/C States [+] cases dropped from Winter 2023 with less Vax
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/collections/covid-19-vaccination-rol...
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/collections/covid-19-outbreaks-in-au...
No tricks...it really is that simple...
If CHO cared enough to read the data he'd apologize to Aged Care providers doin' the right thing!
(Pause!) NSW Premier is always snifflin'...thought to check as he was low key back then...Yep! Pfizer!
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/one-in-four-nsw-mps-yet-to-receive-c...

If NSW care providers drop the Vax to reduce cases they should be rewarded.
Likewise those ramping Vax should be ordered to stop vaxing to reduce their rising outbreaks.

Just to humour the CHO > tbb's Focus shifts to Naughty NSW this week.
NSW 36.4% (6mth) boosted Oz avg 38.1% only NT / WA were lower
NSW featured lowest in Annual Vaxing & Feds were demanding them to vax more...

NSW Outbreaks were -15% lower than 2023 for lowest annual Vaxed State
NSW Overall cases were 10% lower for lowest annual Vaxed State
Likewise lesser for WA > NT (Qld are Avg Oz Vaxing = Exact same cases as 2023) Go figure!

NSW most a/c cases were over 90 yrs
7th June 2024 NSW a/c outbreaks / cases peaked

tbb understands most of VoN crew observe how less vax = less Covid (vs) More Vax = more Covid
Vic CHO : Vax is mutating faster more evasive strains requiring expansion of AV criteria

Example : ACT Highest Vax a/c
Had fewer outbreaks in 2024 but higher Res / Staff infections = more infectious.
April 665 AV scripts > May 1531 AV scripts = #1 Boosted = more infectious > #1 OZ Spike in AV
tbb is just exampling that more Vax > More [+] > More Care > More ABS Scripts > More deaths
Feel free to examine the CHOs own data ...for the millionth time...It's not a conspiracy! (It's Science!)
Keeps showing the same in all highly vaxed settings! Sorry if that bothers some...better to know!
Sure...[ CENSOR ] Only ya can't wish it away!

Now Ask : Why can't Oz CHO simply follow the data and speak the truth > Practice Good Health...
tbb don't care if that means more or less vax...just be honest with yourself & patients!

End of First week of June NSW A/C / Labs / Emergency / [+] rate all peaked
Also confirms 90+ years spike is holding high
KP 3 has just risen over 50% > Special K bowl over 75% full.
One weird fact being the Wave was uniform over whole state > likely reflects 'set' [000] Lab Reads!
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/reports.aspx

NSW Health are looking to break the back of 50% Flu Vax...( Consider CHO is onto them! )
https://www.agedcareinsite.com.au/2024/06/nsw-records-large-increase-in-...
Note : NSW Flu trailed & Peaked last week down on 2022 but up equally & for longer on 2023.
Again : Health Bosses reckon it's still on for 50% ...see more below...mostly mopping up seniors!
https://www.9news.com.au/national/warning-as-surging-flu-cases-hospital-...

o/s Flu also may have peaked last week at only 1% up on 2023 peak!

https://info.flutracking.net/about/

NSW also runs the o/s weekly Covid data & we now have 2 solid continuous years of data...
Covid import has doubled each year & holding high.
Defying the NSW trend just rose 2% last week with rising Global wave > 46% of [+]
Meaning NSW peaked as Global wave is entering = (If o/s hits 48% it'll trigger an Olympic Oz bump!)
Pay to check on 50% o/s breach coz then it spikes a wave of Foreign muck! Dutto will let you know!
Not so much in A/C so we won't read about it...(Perhaps a few return to School outbreaks).

Deaths are a concern for the reason they're similar Oz / NZ wide.
So...neither Spiking nor backing down but an unhealthy long spell fairly moderate rate > NSW similar!
Certainly enough to concern all States with the lingering rise after cases > Hospitalizations..
Reminding of rising Oz AC/Deaths + Vic Deaths > NSW were a touch behind so deaths could also rise here!

PS : Anyone following will note KP3 likes the Cold > NSW > Qld were a tad late with cold snaps.
So Qld Aged Care [+] is still rising with our current delayed Cold Snap and may yet exceed 2023.
Just finished with that to lend some perspective to similar stalled NSW Snow season.
Happy to share that NSW RSV > Covid > Flu may have peaked in that weekly order...but...
Yer not outta the woods with > o/s splash-back pending...Back 2 School bump > Good health to all!

Also from above...NSW Elderly are still a concern...only fair to share the latest News on that...all good!
Vax hesitant NSW gotta reach their 50% Flu Jab target so Kez don't get bullied by that mean arse CHO!
https://www.newsofthearea.com.au/flu-jab-appeal-cases-surge-as-covid-19-...

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truebluebasher Thursday, 27 Jun 2024 at 2:12am

Here's an example of Frontline pickerupperers direct observations on recent Vaping Bans.

16th June...tbb exampled #1 discarded 'Shiny Iget Winged brand fav' Vape Berry Flavours'
Said a 200% ramp in tossed Ciggie Packs (tbb meant 4x the amount...honest)
(Pointed out Non warning New Slick shiny designer Chinese Packs with ghastly White Ciggies!)

Ok! That's a pretty big call from tbb...reckons he's got his finger on the pulse of society...
Knows wotz goin' down without ever goin' downtown like forever...(Can we factcheck that!)
https://www.swellnet.com/forums/politico/506540?page=125

ABC (Today!) Feel free to watch & learn Gromz on how Hodad's Street Art Smartz imitates Life...
It's Ok to laugh...but then pay respect to yer VON swellnet Hodad Health experts...'We know shit!'

Vape Ban > Ciggies
[ 0:07] iget Blueberry / Raspberry (Tick!)
+ No health warning "New" Shiny Chinese Ciggie Pack (Tick!)
[0:10] There...See that...that's them Sickly White Smokes (Tick!)
[0:25] See warning on Vapes > No warning on them Chinese Ciggies
[ 0:35] That's about a 3-4x increase in Ciggies (Tick! See above...Can lock that in!)
[1:15] Lost sight of the Dangers of Smoking (Tick) No Diseased Label
[1:20] Haven't been exposed to as much info of Dangers (Tick!) No Warning Label

Bonus (New fresh) Hot Tip (Today!) Just from doin' a 20min Rubbish round
Firstly! tbb felt unwell had a Heart scare (twice)..lack of exercise...just a short scary tiring round!
Wotz New! Is that there large Gold Vape?

[1:49] See that Gold Vape in the Bin...
Just picked up a brand new one today ... Identical Gold DP 6000 UWELL
Yep right here as tbb types...
(tbb is Pretty sick alright! Nope not suckin' on it...one quick puff won't hurt...won't get addicted or anything?)
Never picked up one similar ever before...Just checked it's an unlisted 'New' flavour (Contraband)
Border Force Sydney just busted 400,000 DP 6000 UWELL valued @ ($12m)
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE...
Just goes to show how quick the Chinese move Contraband from Sydney > Reedy Creek GC.
One step ahead...likely shifted a batch of first 400,000 ...got a tip off, then got busted!
That's the inside word from yer swellnet pickerupperer ...
tbb's yer man on the Street...never miss a beat!