The United States(!) of A


That is important, Eta, but in a triage situation, this is, believe it or not, a broken leg. The priority is The Insurrection Act. Vance, Gabbard and Hegseth at the border for basically a photo op, and to begin to set the narrative that "things are outta control here (thanx to the vermicious Joe Biden), and need Trump to save it." Trump can then invoke The Insurrection Act and send the American military into Blue cities to violently supress any dissent. Have the press go away.
Coming to a Sanctuary City near you soon. (Well, not YOU, Eta, more like me, lol)


andy-mac wrote:southernraw wrote:Just a little strawpoll to swellnutters if i may...
How do you see this playing out in 3-6months time?
I'm going to stick with my plays....either there'll be a military coup/hostile takeover because his party pushes the military too far and releases too many secrets, or 2, i think the republican party will eventually see the writing on the wall and realise the only chance of survival is an overthrow. That's inside 6 months, so before the end of the year.
Just my lame opinion.
Others???
Super interested to read how others on here are reading the tea leaves.Saw a Simpson's meme the other day on how they predict future.
Had Trump dead 12th April 2025 from memory....
Heart attack could be a convenient cause.... ???Not a healthy human....
Gonna be a good week then @andymac.




southernraw wrote:Just a little strawpoll to swellnutters if i may...
How do you see this playing out in 3-6months time?
I'm going to stick with my plays....either there'll be a military coup/hostile takeover because his party pushes the military too far and releases too many secrets, or 2, i think the republican party will eventually see the writing on the wall and realise the only chance of survival is an overthrow. That's inside 6 months, so before the end of the year.
Just my lame opinion.
Others???
Super interested to read how others on here are reading the tea leaves.
3 to 6 months time.
Well if this thread hasn't ended up on the back page by then, Jeffy will have a new name for sure.
Seeing you now think Midas touch is a reliable source of news, god knows how radicalised you will be by then?
Maybe leading anti Trump protest in Australia :P
Regarding USA protest, numbers will increase and in time we will see some incidence of violence, destruction of property maybe some looting and burning shit, much the same as during 2021, me and Fox will be calling them riot's and you and CNN will be calling them peaceful protest
Any reaction from Trump to these protest will be seen as an over reaction.
But otherwise Trump will have calmed down on everything he is doing as he has been trying to get shit done fast now as only has four years, but the media will still be going crazy with countless news stories a day.
Decent chance of another assassination attempt on Trump or even Musk (which again we will receive little information on who was behind it, and even thouigh they are youngish they will say there was no real social media)
USA will have attacked Iran's military targets and taken out Nuc sites and much of the Iranian people though will rise up against the government Islamic republic of Iran, and it will go the same way as the Asad government, with many women removing headscarfs in protest and in time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)


southernraw wrote:Just a little strawpoll to swellnutters if i may...
How do you see this playing out in 3-6months time?
I'm going to stick with my plays....either there'll be a military coup/hostile takeover because his party pushes the military too far and releases too many secrets, or 2, i think the republican party will eventually see the writing on the wall and realise the only chance of survival is an overthrow. That's inside 6 months, so before the end of the year.
Just my lame opinion.
Others???
Super interested to read how others on here are reading the tea leaves.
Hey southern how’s it going?
Yes it’s very hard to predict what’s going to happen.
Good to see you comprehend Meidastouch ,
Most people that criticise it don’t really watch it or get it ,just follow on and complain about the yellow writing, the irony being Joe Rogans big yellow writing , but facts aren’t that important. for them .
Meidastouch have a lot of legal expertise, along with Michael Popok and Brian Tyler Cohen , which your average news source doesn’t have, probably why people don’t like it?
I don’t think the demonstrations will get violent as one eyed Indo thinks , but hopefully will make the Republican congressmen start voting against Trump , which has already started happening,
as they see their jobs on the line with their own voters .
I read that the reason Trump brought in all the tariffs was so that then all the different countries and states would have to come grovelling to him to try to negotiate the tariffs , so
that he looks like the King that he thinks he is ,, but I think he assumes that everyone is like the grovelling psycophants that surround him and still support him, but doesn’t realise the governments that will stand up to him
eg Canada , Greenland .
And hopefully Trump might be dropping Duttons popularity,
All the best. Get a barrel for mate day!


Where can I get some of what Indo is on?
No military coup just worldwide recession, record job losses, riots, closed businesses etc.
Meanwhile smug Trump plays golf while the plebs watch their savings disappear into thin air.
China to invade Tawain and start looking towards the great unprotected southern land.
Trump to use the military to squash any opposition and stay supreme leader until he dies.
Now for the bad stuff........


^^ be careful what you wish for @old-dog, being lobotomised cannot be reversed!


"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.


Good to see Dutton doing a backflip on
Trumps policy of banning work from home!


6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming


Not sure if shared here before, but this guy knows a thing or 2 about the affects of Trumpets trade tariffs.


Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......


I'm guessing one of the unexpected affects of the trade tariffs for Australia is that it will guarantee interest rate drops throughout this year (which is great for those struggling with home loan repayments), and the right wingers will be claiming it was all part of King Trumps grand vision for the un-united S of A.


CMC wrote:Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......
How’s the hit to Superannuation funds. As a long term sole trader who thought I was doing the right thing for my retirement years. Fuck Trump, fuck Musk, little rich boys immune largely to their own fuck ups, far dumber than they claim to be.


soggydog wrote:CMC wrote:Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......
How’s the hit to Superannuation funds. As a long term sole trader who thought I was doing the right thing for my retirement years. Fuck Trump, fuck Musk, little rich boys immune largely to their own fuck ups, far dumber than they claim to be.
ASX back to about 4% down but I expect that will decline to around 5% as day traders bail out before the close. S&P500 futures down 2.85% at present which implies another drop on the ASX tomorrow.
AUD is still at 60 cents.
Absolute carnage: anyone contemplating retirement in the next three years or even more may be forced to reconsider given the hit to Super Funds. If this drop continues there is a good chance what were healthy returns as at mid February will finish up negative by FY end.
And then we get the Trump response.
A reporter then asked whether there was a threshold for economic pain that he would inflict on Americans, and he bristled.
"Mr. President, is is there pain in the market at some point you're unwilling to tolerate?" she asked.
"I think your question is so stupid," the president replied. "I mean, I think it's – I don't want anything to go down, but sometimes you have to take medicine to fix something, and we have such a horrible as we have been treated, so badly by other countries because we had stupid leadership that allowed this to happen. They took our businesses, they took our money, they took our jobs, they moved it to Mexico, they moved it to Canada, they moved a lot of it to China, and it's not sustainable. We're not going to do it now. We have hundreds of billions of dollars that's pouring into our country on a monthly basis, it's pouring. It's already started because I put tariffs on and eventually it's going to straighten out and our country will be solid and strong again."
To call Trump delusional is a gross understatement.
Soggy dog, hopefully someone, somehow will bring this administration to is senses.
But any revision of the tariff threat may take many months to filter through to the stock markets.
I doubt anyone would believe anything Trump says anymore. That is the problem


Asian Markets are now open.
Hang Seng is down around 10%!!!!!


soggydog wrote:CMC wrote:Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......
How’s the hit to Superannuation funds. As a long term sole trader who thought I was doing the right thing for my retirement years. Fuck Trump, fuck Musk, little rich boys immune largely to their own fuck ups, far dumber than they claim to be.
Trump’s oligarchy backers at the inauguration including Musk , have lost billions,
That’s gotta hurt them too.


A Salty Dog wrote:soggydog wrote:CMC wrote:Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......
How’s the hit to Superannuation funds. As a long term sole trader who thought I was doing the right thing for my retirement years. Fuck Trump, fuck Musk, little rich boys immune largely to their own fuck ups, far dumber than they claim to be.
ASX back to about 4% down but I expect that will decline to around 5% as day traders bail out before the close. S&P500 futures down 2.85% at present which implies another drop on the ASX tomorrow.
AUD is still at 60 cents.
Absolute carnage: anyone contemplating retirement in the next three years or even more may be forced to reconsider given the hit to Super Funds. If this drop continues there is a good chance what were healthy returns as at mid February will finish up negative by FY end.
And then we get the Trump response.
A reporter then asked whether there was a threshold for economic pain that he would inflict on Americans, and he bristled.
"Mr. President, is is there pain in the market at some point you're unwilling to tolerate?" she asked.
"I think your question is so stupid," the president replied. "I mean, I think it's – I don't want anything to go down, but sometimes you have to take medicine to fix something, and we have such a horrible as we have been treated, so badly by other countries because we had stupid leadership that allowed this to happen. They took our businesses, they took our money, they took our jobs, they moved it to Mexico, they moved it to Canada, they moved a lot of it to China, and it's not sustainable. We're not going to do it now. We have hundreds of billions of dollars that's pouring into our country on a monthly basis, it's pouring. It's already started because I put tariffs on and eventually it's going to straighten out and our country will be solid and strong again."
To call Trump delusional is a gross understatement.
Soggy dog, hopefully someone, somehow will bring this administration to is senses.
But any revision of the tariff threat may take many months to filter through to the stock markets.
I doubt anyone would believe anything Trump says anymore. That is the problem
@indo &@ opti still insist ,
“It’s what the people voted for “


Confusion wrote:soggydog wrote:CMC wrote:Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......
How’s the hit to Superannuation funds. As a long term sole trader who thought I was doing the right thing for my retirement years. Fuck Trump, fuck Musk, little rich boys immune largely to their own fuck ups, far dumber than they claim to be.
Trump’s oligarchy backers at the inauguration including Musk , have lost billions,
That’s gotta hurt them too.
Only their pride, credibility and zeroes on a balance sheet, still immune to the real-world ramifications like the lower middle class or guy's like myself who've thought about retirement preparedness. Petulant man children who've been bailed out time and time again. Then the cunts have the gall to tell the average punter, "They don't understand economics".


Confusion wrote:soggydog wrote:CMC wrote:Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.
Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......
How’s the hit to Superannuation funds. As a long term sole trader who thought I was doing the right thing for my retirement years. Fuck Trump, fuck Musk, little rich boys immune largely to their own fuck ups, far dumber than they claim to be.
Trump’s oligarchy backers at the inauguration including Musk , have lost billions,
That’s gotta hurt them too.
No it doesn’t hurt them.
If you take a billion off someone with billions, nothing changes for them. If you take a few million off someone with millions, nothing changes.
The average American will be feeling anxiety and a fear of the future. Trump and co and all his enablers won’t be feeling the pain they are inflicting on the majority. Zero fucks given.


soggydog wrote:Confusion wrote:soggydog wrote:CMC wrote:Roadkill wrote:6.3% drop on the asx. Nikkei down 7%
True , it’s just their greed that gets hurt. !
Nasdaq futures down 4% so far.Bargains incoming
AUD below .60 this morning.......
How’s the hit to Superannuation funds. As a long term sole trader who thought I was doing the right thing for my retirement years. Fuck Trump, fuck Musk, little rich boys immune largely to their own fuck ups, far dumber than they claim to be.
Trump’s oligarchy backers at the inauguration including Musk , have lost billions,
That’s gotta hurt them too.Only their pride, credibility and zeroes on a balance sheet, still immune to the real-world ramifications like the lower middle class or guy's like myself who've thought about retirement preparedness. Petulant man children who've been bailed out time and time again. Then the cunts have the gall to tell the average punter, "They don't understand economics".
True, it’s just their greed that gets hurt !
Not sure how much of a mistake it was though if Trump wants to bring down the world order.
He could be the maniacal villain in
James Bond, wanting to destroy the world with poverty and Nuclear War.
Hope not.


Trump overplayed his hand. Maga and lesser indoctrinated Trump supporters will turn on him when prices start to rise in the near future. Most people throw their morals and belief in change when they personally are effected.


One more tariff:


If our currency drops a little bit further the tarriffs wont mean anything as the currency depreciation will have done its job.


andy-mac wrote:"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.
No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.
One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better taking that risk now when Iran is weak and doesnt have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons and there is some muppet in power like Biden.
Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)
But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.
BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.


indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.
One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better it happening now when Iran is weak and doest have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons.
Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)
But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.
BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.
Yeah right on Indo.....


This was meme talking about.
FB popped up...
https://www.facebook.com/100091807669896/posts/592908240446093/?mibextid...


Fox News says
“ BMW is going to rethink South Carolina,
because it’s not going to import
tariffed parts and engines from Germany ,
then to send those vehicles to export them, with more tariffs, so if the South Carolina factory stays open. it’s going to mean less jobs. “


@indo"BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise."
Understanding and getting aroused over war are two different things Indo, please don't confuse your penchant for the latter as any indication of the former. "you are inno position to criticise".


andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.
One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better it happening now when Iran is weak and doest have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons.
Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)
But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.
BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.
Yeah right on Indo.....
Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise."
Be happy with that andy-mac. Indo’s understanding of economics and trade is struggling to be above an 8 year old. So you are 2 years ahead. :)


oops. Doubled up.


Roadkill wrote:andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.
One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better it happening now when Iran is weak and doest have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons.
Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)
But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.
BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.
Yeah right on Indo.....
Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise."
Be happy with that andy-mac. Indo’s understanding of economics and trade is struggling to be above an 8 year old. So you are 2 years ahead. :)
I dont claim to have any more than a basic understanding of economics, but i also havent seen any evidence that have you any great understanding or knowledge of economic's either, quite the opposite
And if you did you would at least try to debunk or pull apart what they are saying Trumps strategy is, instead you just claim he has no strategy.
You claim Trump is stupid, Musk is stupid, yet they are where they are and here you are.
It's not very convincing.


https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1909069404694065350?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%...
Not everyone loses, it seems.


indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.
One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better it happening now when Iran is weak and doest have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons.
Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)
But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.
BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.
Yeah right on Indo.....
Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise."
Be happy with that andy-mac. Indo’s understanding of economics and trade is struggling to be above an 8 year old. So you are 2 years ahead. :)
I dont claim to have any great knowledge of economics, but i also havent seen any evidence that have you any understanding of economic's either, quite the opposite.
If you did you would at least try to debunk or pull apart what they are saying is Trumps strategy is, instead you just claim he has no strategy.
You claim Trump is stupid, Musk is stupid, yet they are where they are and here you are.
It's not very convincing.
Who the FUCK would want to be either of those puckered arseholes


Roadkill wrote:oops. Doubled up.
Never miss the opportunity. What you said has merit.


Roadkill wrote:andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.
One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better it happening now when Iran is weak and doest have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons.
Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)
But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.
BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.
Yeah right on Indo.....
Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise."
Be happy with that andy-mac. Indo’s understanding of economics and trade is struggling to be above an 8 year old. So you are 2 years ahead. :)
Haha cheers.....


Confusion wrote:wax24 wrote:And thanx Jeffy, for the advice. It is appreciated.
Yes no worries Wax ,
The 3 wise men, brought
Frankincense and Myrrh to a new born baby Jesus 2000 years ago because they knew of their medicinal and psychological properties back then.
Cheers
Was that FedEx, Jeffy, just asking for a non religious friend .What tripe. AW


indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:"" time be able to go back to having the freedoms they once had. (well i hope so)""
Like before the USA backed coup???
Your take on history and international relations pretty poor mate.
If USA go into Iran I think you will find they kick a hornets nest they won't be able to control outcome.
Reckon Israel would be one of the worst hit places in retaliation so careful what you wish for...
Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq.No im am not talking over 70 years ago, im talking about 45 years ago before the Islamic republic of Iran when women didnt have to cover their hair before morality police and actually wore mini skirts and swimsuits at the beach.
One day Iran is going to hit Israel and get through their defence systems, it's a hell of a lot better it happening now when Iran is weak and doest have nuclear weapons, than in the future when Iran has regained strength and armed with nuclear weapons.
Nobody really knows for sure if USA will strike Iran, Iran might come to the table on a deal (which personal i cant understand how they could ever be trusted)
But USA is moving everything in place, and it's not just some stealth bombers or posturing, the amount of cargo planes full of ammunition and military equipment is crazy.
BTW. Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise.
Yeah right on Indo.....
Your understanding of anything to do with military aspect or war is about the level of a ten year old, so you are inno position to criticise."
Be happy with that andy-mac. Indo’s understanding of economics and trade is struggling to be above an 8 year old. So you are 2 years ahead. :)
I dont claim to have any more than a basic understanding of economics, but i also havent seen any evidence that have you any great understanding or knowledge of economic's either, quite the opposite
And if you did you would at least try to debunk or pull apart what they are saying Trumps strategy is, instead you just claim he has no strategy.
You claim Trump is stupid, Musk is stupid, yet they are where they are and here you are.
It's not very convincing.
We claim you're stupid too! Just like Trump and Musk heaps of people think you're a cunt. You just don't have the same rich parents that afforded you a leg up that you didn't really earn.......or deserve like your hero's


AlfredWallace wrote:Confusion wrote:wax24 wrote:And thanx Jeffy, for the advice. It is appreciated.
Yes no worries Wax ,
The 3 wise men, brought
Frankincense and Myrrh to a new born baby Jesus 2000 years ago because they knew of their medicinal and psychological properties back then.
CheersWas that FedEx, Jeffy, just asking for a non religious friend .What tripe. AW
It’s not a religious statement, it’s actually a historical statement that different cultures and traditions have been using these and other natural treatments for thousands of years.
I could have given you religious and medicinal statements from the Incas , the Amazonians , the European Druids ,
The Indian Ayurveda traditions, TCM , Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime , the Vikings , Egyptians , the American aboriginal s etc
They used to use Myrrh as a pain killer, until opium was introduced to them.
I knew you might chime in with your
ignorant prejudice AW


Cancer is a different beast and I’m sure Waxxy, the experienced medical professional, will have his expertise and that of his colleagues to lean on.
My workmate had same two years ago. Early detection and treatment was the key to remission.


seeds wrote:Cancer is a different beast and I’m sure Waxxy, the experienced medical professional, will have his expertise and that of his colleagues to lean on.
My workmate had same two years ago. Early detection and treatment was the key to remission.
True but the different treatments for cancer are very damaging to the body and
the immune system generally.
The conventional medicine system has no treatment for that , but there are plenty of herbs used for millennia that can boost them,
I know because i use them them all the time .


Confusion wrote:AlfredWallace wrote:Confusion wrote:wax24 wrote:And thanx Jeffy, for the advice. It is appreciated.
Yes no worries Wax ,
The 3 wise men, brought
Frankincense and Myrrh to a new born baby Jesus 2000 years ago because they knew of their medicinal and psychological properties back then.
CheersWas that FedEx, Jeffy, just asking for a non religious friend .What tripe. AW
It’s not a religious statement, it’s actually a historical statement that different cultures and traditions have been using these and other natural treatments for thousands of years.
I could have given you religious and medicinal statements from the Incas , the Amazonians , the European Druids ,
The Indian Ayurveda traditions, TCM , Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime , the Vikings , Egyptians , the American aboriginal s etc
They used to use Myrrh as a pain killer, until opium was introduced to them.
I knew you might chime in with your
ignorant prejudice AW
Of course you knew I’d react. Another religious fantasy tale, permeated down through the ages of brainwashing.
It’s not a religious statement. Then what is it ? What’s this shit, who are the three wise men ? Brainwashed biblical tabloid crap, you’re talking like a carney from the show.
You mentioned baby Jesus, that’s pretty religious in my books.
Aboriginal people have been using plant derivatives for at least 47,500 years. Pretty sure Frankincense and Myrrh were not in their medicine cabinets.
Don’t lecture me about compounds from plants, have you not caught on or observe anything else but Trump crap,
I’ve worked with plants and their science all my life.
You’re just a fairy tale teller who’s been dusted with the wrong stuff. AW


AlfredWallace wrote:Confusion wrote:AlfredWallace wrote:Confusion wrote:wax24 wrote:And thanx Jeffy, for the advice. It is appreciated.
Yes no worries Wax ,
The 3 wise men, brought
Frankincense and Myrrh to a new born baby Jesus 2000 years ago because they knew of their medicinal and psychological properties back then.
CheersWas that FedEx, Jeffy, just asking for a non religious friend .What tripe. AW
It’s not a religious statement, it’s actually a historical statement that different cultures and traditions have been using these and other natural treatments for thousands of years.
I could have given you religious and medicinal statements from the Incas , the Amazonians , the European Druids ,
The Indian Ayurveda traditions, TCM , Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime , the Vikings , Egyptians , the American aboriginal s etc
They used to use Myrrh as a pain killer, until opium was introduced to them.
I knew you might chime in with your
ignorant prejudice AWOf course you knew I’d react. Another religious fantasy tale, permeated down through the ages of brainwashing.
It’s not a religious statement. Then what is it ? What’s this shit, who are the three wise men ? Brainwashed biblical tabloid crap, you’re talking like a carney from the show.
You mentioned baby Jesus, that’s pretty religious in my books.Aboriginal people have been using plant derivatives for at least 47,500 years. Pretty sure Frankincense and Myrrh were not in their medicine cabinets.
Don’t lecture me about compounds from plants, have you not caught on or observe anything else but Trump crap,
I’ve worked with plants and their science all my life.You’re just a fairy tale teller who’s been dusted with the wrong stuff. AW
You fool , they were 2 examples of tens of thousands of different traditional remedies,
I gave you those 2 because everyone has heard that story.
Of course the Australian aborigines didn’t use Frankincense and Myrrh because it wasn’t from here
The used many other medicinal and psychoactive herbs, some containing DMT , which probably gave them their spiritual experiences
The North American Indians have used Peyote cactus for centuries and certain religions there are still allowed to use peyote because it’s part of their traditional spiritual practices.
Same as psilocybin mushrooms and Amazonian tribes have their own sacred traditions ETC , The Vikings use to take Rhodiola before going into battle. You really fail to understand the concept.


Shit gets you off. Shit has antibiotic effects. Shit has effects on the gut.
I don’t believe it has the strength to fix a mofo as strong as cancer. Maybe relieve symptoms….maybe.
One poor lass started visiting Ubud (yeah what bollocks) twice a year after her first brief remission thinking that would do something. What you can convince yourself of with the help of vested interests!


Remember that chick from a few years back, Belle Gibson from Melbourne that blew up as a huge social media influencer, claimed she had cancer and cured it with natural herbs and diet etc she even got a book deal and had her own app etc and made big money, but never had cancer at all and was just a total scammer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Gibson
Watched the docco on net flix the other day, its well worth a watch, crazy what she got away with
"The Search For Instagram's Worst Con Artist"
https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81987249


seeds wrote:Shit gets you off. Shit has antibiotic effects. Shit has effects on the gut.
I don’t believe it has the strength to fix a mofo as strong as cancer. Maybe relieve symptoms….maybe.
One poor lass started visiting Ubud (yeah what bollocks) twice a year after her first brief remission thinking that would do something. What you can convince yourself of with the help of vested interests!
Well certain herbs have been scientifically proven to boost your immune system, which would be what helps to combat certain illnesses .And natural pain killers, antidepressants etc
I’m not saying there’s a sure fire cure, but there are tens of thousands of herbs out there, not just shit , which is shit ,
And you’re saying you know none of them could possibly work ?
At least some might make you feel less tired and depressed, which is a positive.
Anyone who has smoked Marijuana or snorted cocaine or had a cigarette or coffee, knows the effects plants can have on the body,
Average Joe thinks there are only a few which have an effect,
Wrong there’s thousands which have different medicinal and psychoactive effects, some stronger some less,
Man has actually evolved with them for thousands of years.
Not just having another guess.
There are herbs related to the opium poppy which aren’t as strong but legal
Ephedra Nevadensis is where ephedrine came from which became speed , then ice ,
All natural herbs without battery acid or god knows what ?


Sexxy you misinterpret what I mean by shit.
17 to 12 years ago my neighbour was a Saffa cat named Howard. He bought a big fancy house at the end of the street. He gutted it and spent a million or more totalling refurbishing it. Our humble home was pretty good but nothing to Mr Porche big boat etc.
Rural residential in Mons amongst the rainforest.
He bought a dud and his septic was going too septic all the time. The service people came to us wanting our compacted shit a few times to get his shit back in balance because we had the good shit. Never said a word of thanks to us for our good shit.
Us and the neighbours, on the piss and the good shit, would laugh off about it. “ Yeah we got the good shit. “
Cunt named Howard that owns Youi insurance. Wanker!!!


seeds wrote:Sexxy you misinterpret what I mean by shit.
17 to 12 years ago my neighbour was a Saffa cat named Howard. He bought a big fancy house at the end of the street. He gutted it and spent a million or more totalling refurbishing it. Our humble home was pretty good but nothing to Mr Porche big boat etc.
Rural residential in Mons amongst the rainforest.
He bought a dud and his septic was going too septic all the time. The service people came to us wanting our compacted shit a few times to get his shit back in balance because we had the good shit. Never said a word of thanks to us for our good shit.
Us and the neighbours, on the piss and the good shit, would laugh off about it. “ Yeah we got the good shit. “
Cunt named Howard that owns Youi insurance. Wanker!!!
I’ve got enough herbs in my cupboard,40
Not to have to try shit whatever it might be.


Jeffy you are the Rainman.
Who’s on first?


indo-dreaming wrote:Remember that chick from a few years back, Belle Gibson from Melbourne that blew up as a huge social media influencer, claimed she had cancer and cured it with natural herbs and diet etc she even got a book deal and had her own app etc and made big money, but never had cancer at all and was just a total scammer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Gibson
Watched the docco on net flix the other day, its well worth a watch, crazy what she got away with
"The Search For Instagram's Worst Con Artist"
https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81987249
There you go, that proves it if @ Indo thinks there are no other plants ,than
what he knows about .
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank