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Indo trying to troll this thread the other day on his “good news” post…..and being ignored, was pretty funny.

Roadkill wrote:

Even Rogan is starting to pushback at Trump…that fan boy can see the lies and bs and corruption…indo still blind by choice. Must be from the resuurch?

Rogan holds Trump accountable over illegal deportations of innocent people to El Salvador !

With any monumental monument there are plans.
& like any hostage situation there must be adequate phases…

Those already kidnapped will surely rise to the occasion for a liaison…
Phase one and two been covered by noinfo with plenty more in the tank ;)

Regarding that most recent Rogan episode

I actually listened to about two third's of that podcast today, i dont recall that bit so it might be towards the end.

But without actually listening to the full conversation it's hard to know what was said and the context, either way of course Rogan or anyone including me is not going to agree with everything that Trump or Musk or whoever says or does that's life.

There was even stuff in the podcast today that Rogan said that i total disagree with. (stuff regarding/downplaying climate change)

BTW, If you had listened to all the podcast though, you would have heard them all talking positively about DOGE and being blown away by the corruption and shit they are finding.

Roadkill wrote:

Indo trying to troll this thread the other day on his “good news” post…..and being ignored, was pretty funny.

Um dude sharing the news of the court giving DOGE the green light to cut USA AID is not exactly trolling.

And do you really think i care either way, if people reply or not?

I posted it because, it was good news, and also as a way to say fuck you haters, it's still happening

BTW. In that Rogan podcast they were talking about how USA AID is one of the main areas for corruption and miss spending.

The thing about ‘listening’ and the glaring distinction gone missing (like your response to feedback or facts) is that it isn’t listening when you only wanna hear what u want ;)

Hopefully you have honest family members like stevo…

(& don’t forget a “fuck you haters”)
- or just accuse the other side of that which you are guilty…

;)

BTW
BTW BLAH BLAH
BTW @info loves ending most posts with a BTW bum splatter comment … as …

#there’salwaysanothercomment

indo-dreaming wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

Indo trying to troll this thread the other day on his “good news” post…..and being ignored, was pretty funny.

Um dude sharing the news of the court giving DOGE the green light to cut USA AID is not exactly trolling.

And do you really think i care either way, if people reply or not?

I posted it because, it was good news, and also as a way to say fuck you haters, it's still happening

BTW. In that Rogan podcast they were talking about how USA AID is one of the main areas for corruption and miss spending.

“And do you really think i care either way, if people reply or not?”

Uum, yes.

You had to reply to my post with an explanation. You couldn’t just ignore it.

Still waiting on proof of corruption.

A post on doge website is not proof of corruption.

indo-dreaming wrote:

Regarding that most recent Rogan episode

I actually listened to about two third's of that podcast today, i dont recall that bit so it might be towards the end.

But without actually listening to the full conversation it's hard to know what was said and the context, either way of course Rogan or anyone including me is not going to agree with everything that Trump or Musk or whoever says or does that's life.

There was even stuff in the podcast today that Rogan said that i total disagree with. (stuff regarding/downplaying climate change)

BTW, If you had listened to all the podcast though, you would have heard them all talking positively about DOGE and being blown away by the corruption and shit they are finding.

Well at least Rogan doesn’t think it’s a good idea for Trump to be able to pick up anyone he wants to, and ship them off to concentration (torture) prisons in El Salvador.
Maybe he’s conscience and maybe a bit of trying to stop his ratings dropping.
I guess some bullshit about DOGE had to come up though.
That’s how they suck you in,
If Rogans right about the illegal deportations, he must be right about DOGE as well,
WRONG , sucked in again.
I learned that from listening to Ray Hadley on 2GB
He’s definitely right about somethings,
So he must be right about everything ,
Haha got you again, coal isn’t clean .

The bumper sticker on indo's Tesla

The EU is planning on targeting US tech in response to Trump new tariffs.

Awesome…hit them hard. Aus needs to do the same.

@indo. “And do you really think i care either way, if people reply or not?

I posted it because, it was good news, and also as a way to say fuck you haters, it's still happening”

Doesn’t care……….but still wants to say fuck you.

Wishes someone cared………..loves to gloat about abhorrent shit happening.

Come on
Indo is doing a great job of showing us the enduring power of dumb Trumpism .
We should all learn something from his determined,against all odds dogmatic doggedness ,
All for the great leader(s) ?

Who’s pumped for liberation day? It’s coming soon, just a few hours away now. It is then followed by initial jobless claims report which is followed by US deficit and services PMI reports first thing tomorrow morning. This is then followed by employment reports on Friday morning. And finally, Jerome Powell is having a speech on Friday. And this is just the first week of April. S&P500 might be on a <5,000 path this month. Let’s see.

Roadkill wrote:

Even Rogan is starting to pushback at Trump…that fan boy can see the lies and bs and corruption…indo still blind by choice. Must be from the resuurch?

In my observation...
a shit ton of one trick ponies around here. Do you all circle dance around/in Confusion? Methinks p'raps.

This is why it is really not worth my time discussing anything on threads like this but here we go again.

Elon Musk has no authority, none, to "audit" any government department under the US Constitution.
NONE. EVER. NONE.
That role belongs to the Inspector Generals appointed, vetted and approved by CONGRESS to oversee and audit the spending by those departments under the BALANCE OF POWER inherently built into the US Constitution to protect THE PEOPLE who always have all the power in that democracy.

The Office of President has no authority to appoint any such person to that role, winning (??/ rigging) an election does NOT entitle the person who occupies the OFFICE of President to rip up the Constitution and appoint a DOGE or any other shit that the MAD FUCKING WANNA BE KING Trump is currently doing.

It is no longer the Democratic Constitutional Republic of the United States of America, it is a fascist basket case of a hot mess that was for 250 years ( and is no more), since the War of the Georges (The American Revolutionary War) the most successful and powerful democracy in human history, through The War of the Brothers, the Saddest War of All (The inappropriately named Civil War) until Trump showed up, that sad war about the right of free men to "own" other men stolen from their homelands, where President Abraham Lincoln again spelled out the whole idea of American democracy in a eulogy given on the battlefield at Gettysburg over the graves of some of the brave men who died in pursuit of the idea and ideals of how free men should live, in a Constitutional Democratic Republic like the United States. BEFORE FUCKING IDIOTS LIKE TRUMP AND MUSK AND ROGAN and Bannon and Stephen Millar and all the MAGA dimwits, and fucking dipshits like @Indo, who clings to every ignorant utterance of a half arsed Tai Kwon Do fighter riffing BULLSHIT like it is reasoned and educated "debate", and the phenomenon of social media and Fox News and the rest of that crap flooded the zone of public discourse with uneducated, incorrect, ignorant, racist BULLSHIT that took hold and sent the world fucking batshit crazy.
@Indo, just google the Gettysburg Address, FUCKING READ IT, THEN READ IT AGAIN.
Then learn something about the US Constitution and American history and stop filling these pages with HORSESHIT derived from the idiots you follow online.
You don't know what you are talking about .
Nor do they.
You are a stooge being stooged.

Ask yourself why Trump without authority under the Constitutional RULE OF LAW and BALANCE OF POWER in that now basket case of a country sacked all the Inspector Generals appointed, vetted and authorised by Congress in his first week pretending to occupy the Office of President in that now (un)democratic republic/ kingdom of idiocy, that no longer is a constitutional one, or a democratic one or even a militarily powerful one.
Why?
Because he is a stupid fascist dickhead living in a demented reality show inside his head where he moves through space and time creating and recreating a hero narrative for himself to disguise his own inadequacies and failures as a man and a businessman and a leader of men. A born loser who lost the inherited wealth his slumlord KKK racist father left him, who's only "wealth" in recent times is derived by fronting real estate that washes the stolen trillions of the former USSR for gangsters, including Putin, into US dollars.
Because he wants to confuse the world to enrich himself.
Because he has never read a book in his life, let alone the US Constitution and any American history, or world history.
The first rule of "audit" is that "front office" can't be "back office".
Accounting 101 dickhead.
Try studying that @ Indo, before you start referring to Rogan podcasts, that you "haven't listened to all of". Like you "skim read" my last post on these threads.
More fool you @Indo. I only reach out once. Fail.

That country couldn't even declare war on Jamaica and win at the moment, without nuking it.
It's "spear", it's command and control structure is so horribly compromised by the fucking idiots Trump has put in it, like the drunken idiot Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth who's only qualification was he was a Fox morning News bobblehead who praised Trump on air for the lizard skinned old robber baron Rupert Murdoch, (who mainlines viagra and still pretends he's worth a woman rooting at nearly 100 years old, the too rich old pervert, and his nepo baby dimwit son Lachlan, who is out the door as soon as the old sex maniac lizard croaks. The Trust held, the coup on his children's inheritance was a dud. What a cunt of a father that man is. (Just like Gina 'Spangled MAGA Mu Mu' Rinehart is a cunt of a mother.)

Add Hegseth to the incompetent suckhole Marco Rubio, the dimwit VP Vance, the Russian asset from the State of Hawaii and...the list is too long, and the whole thing has ground to a halt.
Rooted.
Broken down.
The "spear" is in pieces and the tip is blunt and dumb.
Myanmar just had an earthquake and the US is MIA.
The not a Hebrew Bibi Netanyahu, (real name Benjamin Mileikowsky, who's father changed his name to become a fake settler of Israel, like they all do, and named himself after his father Nathan, a Russian Rabbi, Netanyahu is Hebrew for Nathan, or Natan, based on the forth son of Noah, or some bullshit, European colonists. FFS,) is still killing and displacing and committing genocide. Still at it. Another cunt.

And wasn't King Donald going to "end" the war in Ukraine in one day?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Fuck it.
Fuck this crap.
Again, I'm sucked in again.

"Deez nuts"@Indo.
Deez fucking nuts pal.
Gone again.
Adam12 out.
Again.
Life is good outside this bubble of bullshit, ....out there ...there is a field...I'll meet you there!
(apologies to Rumi for stealing that)

Thank you @adam12 for telling it as it is, your contributions here are always greatly appreciated.

indo-dreaming wrote:

Argh I see the haters are still hating, day in day out, hate hate hate.

And not just this thread, i see in the other two Australian political related threads its the same deal, same typical target's.

Here is the hard reality.

USA has a debt of 36 trillion 100% of GDP and getting worse projected to be almost 120% of GDP by 2035

The daily interest alone is over one billion, taxes raise 5 trillion a year yet they spend 7 trillion per year

That's insanity big changes need to happen.

Not only does revenue need to increase to pay off the debt (not easy to do because people dont like tax increases)

But obviously they need to reduce spending or become more efficient in that spending cutting wastage.

That's where DOGE comes in

But yeah you guys dont like Trump dont like Elon and of course those getting their funding cuts aren't happy.

Well Trump got voted in, he gets his shot to do things his way.

When democrats get voted back in again, they can do as they like and im sure focus again on things like letting men compete against women in sports, or giving Iran a few billion or just letting people flood in over the border.

indo-dreaming wrote:

Here is the hard reality.

USA has a debt of 36 trillion 100% of GDP and getting worse projected to be almost 120% of GDP by 2035

The daily interest alone is over one billion, taxes raise 5 trillion a year yet they spend 7 trillion per year

That's insanity big changes need to happen.

Not only does revenue need to increase to pay off the debt (not easy to do because people dont like tax increases)

But obviously they need to reduce spending or become more efficient in that spending cutting wastage.

That's where DOGE comes in

But yeah you guys dont like Trump dont like Elon and of course those getting their funding cuts aren't happy.

Well Trump got voted in, he gets his shot to do things his way.

When democrats get voted back in again, they can do as they like and im sure focus again on things like letting men compete against women in sports, or giving Iran a few billion or just letting people flood in over the border.

How about Trump costs the taxpayers
$10 million every trip to Mar a Lago , to play golf. Which happens all the time.
Hes not worried about that waste .

Mate you do know that people can google these things and fact check them right?

A quick google shows that your figure is way out 26 million for 18 golf trips so far this year the main cost being security.

Does it seem excessive, 100% Obama was also critiqued for the same thing spending millions on playing golf while president.

Although the security cost like anything would be way higher now and security much higher for Trump after two assassination attempts.

@indo so why isn’t DOGE looking into the
$80 Billion in government contracts given to Musks companies over the last decade.
And 11 of the federal agencies that DOGE has attacked have complaints and investigations into Musks companies.
So I guess feeding starving children around the world is a total waste of money, when you could be spending it on trying to fly to Mars sometime in the future.

Mate you are a nutter, give it a rest for fucks sake, the hate and obsession with trump is going to eat you up if you do this shit day in day out for four years.

indo-dreaming wrote:

Mate you are a nutter, give it a rest for fucks sake, the hate and obsession with trump is going to eat you up if you do this shit day in day out for four years.

What a pathetic response when you don’t have an answer
“Mate you are a nutter “
Wow there’s no comeback to that intelligent observation.
Even Albo is saying Trumps tariffs
“Are not the act of a friend “ and Dutton has offered to stand with Albo against Trump.
Sounds like @Indo is one of the last nutters standing

Spot the nutter, the one standing up for Australia, or the one-eyed Trump disciple rooting for MAGA and everything U.S. of A.
Trumps ban or tariffs on beef could have important ramifications for the price of pies.

“ Trumps ban or tariffs on beef could have important ramifications for the price of pies.“ …………..gina & clive won’t be happy .

Clive’s Trumpet of Tariffs party should do well now.

adam12 wrote:

Because he has never read a book in his life, let alone the US Constitution and any American history, or world history.

@adam12 I have to disagree with you on that one. One of his favourite books is The Bible. So he has read something hasn't he!!!

Meltdown

hysterical

wagyu beef pies more like it

10%... whoop de doo...

americans now have the same 10 % tax we impose on them... we just call it gst...

all trump's little dance on the lawn did was expose the gross hypocrisy of so called 'free trade'

big nasty trump man just imposed tarrifs - at a 50% reduced rate - on all the countries that impose tarrifs on the US

absolute end of the world stuff...

I'm not on board with Trump the way some people are...actually I reckon he's a bit of a fuckwit and is driving America towards a worse, not better, state.

That said, I've been critical of the excesses of globalism and how that has driven inequalities, trampled over the environment, and diluted culture and traditions to the point that life feels meaningless to many people, or so I've read.

So despite the Never Trumpers and the narkiness and the economic turmoil, a large part of me wants to see the world order rejigged; perhaps the raw edges of globalism sanded off, the top heaviness of rent-seeking multinationals shift towards sovereignty, where enshittification is met with stiffer regulation and not mere acceptance.

Could go on but you get the point.

+1

Hahahaha.

That’s fucking hilarious.

GST is less than the combined state and local taxes on almost every purchase you make in the US. Did you take that into account syppo?? .

I think he's a fuckwit too

I'd dare say 50% of people that voted for him think he's a bit of a fuckwit...

but there was simply no alternative

a fuckwit versus 'the trashbin of history'

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/15/politics/video/democrats-approval-con...

plus the other stuff you said resonates with lots of people

they may not have the language to articulate it... oh but they know it!

clearly I didn't eta

enjoy your hair...

I could split ir another way, but can't be fucked

because as per the poll above, kamala was clearly a better choice...

It seems like the US can’t produce enough beef for their domestic markets, so they rely on Australian imports anyway. And the US consumer will pay, like everyone has been saying.
Stop making sense.

sypkan wrote:

hysterical

wagyu beef pies more like it

10%... whoop de doo...

americans now have the same 10 % tax we impose on them... we just call it gst...

all trump's little dance on the lawn did was expose the gross hypocrisy of so called 'free trade'

big nasty trump man just imposed tarrifs - at a 50% reduced rate - on all the countries that impose tarrifs on the US

absolute end of the world stuff...

Do you know how GST works on exports?

ross perot - giant sucking sound

https://m.

I know how it works on imports

a bit like a tarrif...

GuySmiley wrote:

Thank you @adam12 for telling it as it is, your contributions here are always greatly appreciated.

Ditto

indo-dreaming wrote:

Here is the hard reality.

USA has a debt of 36 trillion 100% of GDP and getting worse projected to be almost 120% of GDP by 2035

The daily interest alone is over one billion, taxes raise 5 trillion a year yet they spend 7 trillion per year

That's insanity big changes need to happen.

Not only does revenue need to increase to pay off the debt (not easy to do because people dont like tax increases)

But obviously they need to reduce spending or become more efficient in that spending cutting wastage.

That's where DOGE comes in

But yeah you guys dont like Trump dont like Elon and of course those getting their funding cuts aren't happy.

Well Trump got voted in, he gets his shot to do things his way.

When democrats get voted back in again, they can do as they like and im sure focus again on things like letting men compete against women in sports, or giving Iran a few billion or just letting people flood in over the border.

Or maybe fair tax on billionaires??
And less funding to a particular country in ME?

sypkan wrote:

I know how it works on imports

a bit like a tarrif...

So you don’t actually know.

It was pretty obvious.

I find the Trump tariff plan really interesting. Watching markets and the economics around the whole thing is great viewing.
Countries freaking out all over the place.

It sucks for some but there will be some great stockmarket buys coming up.

Roadkill wrote:

sypkan wrote:

I know how it works on imports

a bit like a tarrif...

So you don’t actually know.

It was pretty obvious.

so explain it to me roadskill...

that, and how the 10% gst on imports is almost exactly the same as a 10% tariff...

Trump's Liberation Day...
The Poor are disproportionately impacted by core produce Tariffs!
The Idle Rich consume less essentials & gas commodities so lounge far less Tariff Tax per income base!
Studies clearly show a fourfold 1.5% Tax burden shift from Rich onto the Poor...Trump's Wet Dream

Lowest Popular US Prez Vote Mandates
#1 Trump (2016) #2 Bush Jr (2000) #3 Trump (2024)

Most Executive Orders per Year > *First 72 Days of You're Fired Side Chats.
#1 *Trump 109 > #2 Carter 80 > #3 Nixon 63 > #4 Trump 55

Least Executive Orders per Year
#1 Obama 35 > #2 Bush (Jr) 36 > #3 Biden 40

Voter Age Pop > Voter Eligible Pop
2016 Trump VAP 25.65% VEP 27.27% Mandates 220 Executive Orders
2020 Biden..VAP 32.22% VEP 33.49% Mandates 160 Executive Orders
2024 Trump VAP 28.95% VEP 31.59% Mandates 109 Executiive Orders in 1st 72 Days

First 100 Days = Emergency Fake Fireside Mandate that compensates for record low Voter Support
[See] Qldurr [L] Rep' Dictators : Dutto / Martini Mussolini > 1st 100 Days of Record Crisis censorship!
Dictator States : "I was elected with an Emergency Mandate of less Votes than anyone ever before me!"
Media & Electorate are compelled to lick Dictators arse by propping up record low mandate!

First 100 Days Executive Emergency...Restoration of The Righteous 3 R's
Relief for Aussie record discretionary spending vanquished by mandating a real Cost of Living Crisis
Recover the economy by gagging debate on Slave Factories exploiting Carpet Bombed Trad' Lands.
Reform Tax system by forcing Poor Slaves to bankroll their Master Race of Idle Rich.

sypkan wrote:

Roadkill wrote:

sypkan wrote:

I know how it works on imports

a bit like a tarrif...

So you don’t actually know.

It was pretty obvious.

so explain it to me roadskill...

that, and how the 10% gst on imports is almost exactly the same as a 10% tariff...

Nope

awww come on roadyskilly

don't be all hostiley...

I'm a bit interested, genuinely

There’s a lot of nonsense with the narrative around tariffs. Like most said, they will hit the US consumers the most. So why are others panicking? No one likes Americans wherever you go in the world. I never heard anyone in Europe say ‘we love Americans’. They don’t like them and they don’t want them there. So I find all this crying hilarious. US is putting tariffs? Trump wants to isolate? Let them. Isn’t that what everyone wanted? For them to piss off. The world is not in a trade war, it’s the US that is in its own bizarre war, the rest can trade freely between themselves.

Yep.

“ Let me liberate you from your savings ”

“ Me and my people will do well. You'll pay for it."