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If it moves, shoot it! If it grows, cut it down!
edit: This article is from the start of March. Was this common knowledge, or have I been a victim of the "flood the zone with shit" playbook? I guess it was in the NYT, so the latter must apply.
Hiccups wrote:If it moves, shoot it! If it grows, cut it down!
edit: This article is from the start of March. Was this common knowledge, or have I been a victim of the "flood the zone with shit" playbook? I guess it was in the NYT, so the latter must apply.
Definitely wouldn’t be newsworthy for MAGA and the oligarchy.
Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Supafreak wrote:Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Watched this interview yesterday re negotiations.
Trump not leaving much room for Iran to move and this has upped the temperature.
Guess start to worry when troops are starting to be deployed.
Who to believe? The commentators that said their Iran's air defence was wiped out, or others who seem to be getting more correct than not, say when the IDF air force had to turn around due to Iran's defences?
Or somewhere in the middle/
One thing I think you could say for certain, if Israel or USA attack Iran, it will be on and the whole world's economy will melt down as the price of oil will shoot up.
Also, if the reports regarding Iran's supersonic missiles are accurate, Israel will take the biggest hit in its history.
Crazy times....
velocityjohnno wrote:https://www.twz.com/air/signs-u-s-massing-b-2-spirit-bombers-in-diego-ga...
Better check with the editor of The Atlantic for verification.
yeah lolwut?!
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/houthi-atlantic-goldberg/
I'm usually excited to see good waves mates take in group chat, that is something else. Didn't they want Hillary indicted for emails? Amateur hour.
Scarily similar to the clown show last time around. Don't want anyone who actually knows what's what helping out coz they be deep state swamp dwellers. Latest word is it was Hesgeth. TV presenter becomes Secretary of Defence. What could possibly go wrong?
Here’s Waltz owning up and taking responsibility. unlike Hegseth who lied through his teeth and just tried to discredit the editor of the Atlantic . Waltz going on to say they are both veterans didn’t really give them any credit for careless actions .
If I recall from my Thomas E Ricks reading, post-invasion Iraq, some of the planning was done on powerpoint, so there's precedent for this kind of kindergarten level planning/organisation
Fingers in orange powerpoints
invasion by text messages aside...
maybe just maybe... trump does have some big over arching, cough cough... plan...
or concern at least
he clearly does
whether it's correct, viable, or doable is another thing...
'Why Ships Are the New Chips'
https://www.ft.com/content/37bfc009-cf92-434b-81a1-04b40ecc49c4?segmentI...
$1 trill Japan investment in steel production
panama prodding
greenland, canada...
all a bit...
'you're either with us or against us'
blackrock's on board
biden actually signed off on it
it's about as close to bipartisan and globalist / wef approved as anything trumpy gets in the modern context...
(msnbc, meidas, (and jeffy) might even need to review their talking points soon...)
sypkan wrote:invasion by text messages aside...
maybe just maybe... trump does have some big over arching, cough cough... plan...
or concern at least
he clearly does
whether it's correct, viable, or doable is another thing...
'Why Ships Are the New Chips'
https://www.ft.com/content/37bfc009-cf92-434b-81a1-04b40ecc49c4?segmentI...
$1 trill Japan investment in steel production
panama prodding
greenland, canada...
all a bit...
'you're either with us or against us'
blackrock's on board
biden actually signed off on it
it's about as close to bipartisan and globalist / wef approved as anything trumpy gets in the modern context...
(msnbc, meidas, (and jeffy) might even need to review their talking points soon...)
Not sure what your article said, but I think Trumps overarching plan might be to get better at golf, while ignoring all his batshit
cabinet picks.
andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Watched this interview yesterday re negotiations.
Trump not leaving much room for Iran to move and this has upped the temperature.
Guess start to worry when troops are starting to be deployed.Who to believe? The commentators that said their Iran's air defence was wiped out, or others who seem to be getting more correct than not, say when the IDF air force had to turn around due to Iran's defences?
Or somewhere in the middle/One thing I think you could say for certain, if Israel or USA attack Iran, it will be on and the whole world's economy will melt down as the price of oil will shoot up.
Also, if the reports regarding Iran's supersonic missiles are accurate, Israel will take the biggest hit in its history.
Crazy times....
I think any idea of negotiations by Trump with Iran is more theatre and just seeming to go through a process so he can say we tried sanctions and negotiations first but they didnt listen.
I think that's why he even said the other day, any attack by the Houthi's on USA vessels will be seen as a direct attack from Iran, it's all preparation for both Iran and everyone else.
I mean seriously does anyone think Iran is going to give up on their goal of destroying Israel or give up their bid to get nuclear arms through negotiation's.
Even if they do come to some deal as soon as Trump is gone they will just go back to it.
IMHO Israel would be crazy not to hit Irans nuclear facilties at some stage during Trumps term, all the stars are aligned right now and the head of the octopus needs to be chopped off.
The stars aligned are:
1. Trump is in power, so nobody to hold one of Israel hands behind it's back like Biden did, Israel is never going to get a more supportive USA president.
2. Hamas & Hezbollah are severally weakened so cant jump in firing large numbers of rockets trying to overwhelm the iron dome during an Iran missile attack Israel.
3. Houthis are currently being hit by USA, so again they too will be weakened in time, reducing that threat.
4. Most of Irans air defences systems in Iran have been taken out.
BTW. this isnt really up for debate, we know the sites that have been hit, it's reported in neutral media, it's more how many are left and if there is many more left, then another mission will take those out
5. Irans air defence systems in Syria have also been taken out, creating a safer travel route.
The question is more if or when Israel attack's Iran how much the USA will be involved,?
It might just be giving Israel what it needs to do the job or it could just be back up in the air for fueling or support for possible rescue mission or just fighter jet back up that dint hit ground targets but are there to protect Israel fighter Jets, and then there would definitely be support in defence of Israel itself if Iran retaliates even Biden did this even Jordan & Saudi Arabia intercepted some missiles..
Or it could be a true Israel & USA joint mission as hitting those deep nuclear sites are said not to be easy, kind of like blowing up the death star, strike after strike is needed to get deeper and deeper.
Either way even if it happens it could be weeks away, months away or a year or more away, currently all Irans proxies are been weakened further, you would expect the timing if happens will also be about intel on how close to Iran are in their nuclear aims (they always seem to say very soon)
Before a major strike on Iran nuclear facilities there might also be other seperate strokes in preparation, taking out any air to missile defence system's left, missile sites, or just military air fields etc
And then you would expect the main goal will be nuclear facilities,
Which I wouldn't expect is going to affect oil prices?
That will only happen if they want to destroy Irans economy and hit major oil facilties, but a war with Iran is not going to look like Gaza or Lebanon, military sites near civilian's are limited and the Iran public actually has quite large support for Israel, so the dream would be to take out Irans nuclear sites and some of the military and government leaders and trigger a fall of Islamic Republic of Iran, you would expect that's unlikely though.
BTW.. Not sure who you think has been getting anything right?
I dont know anyone that predicated Israel would weaken Hezbolah the way they have Hezbollah were always considered far far more of a threat than Hamas, or that Assad government in Syria would fall further weakening Hezzbolah and opening up Syria, or that two of the largest missile attacks in history including ballistic missiles and yes Hyper sonic missiles would result in close to no deaths.
BTW. Hyper sonic missiles(Mach 5) they used are faster than super sonic missiles(Mach 1+) and they already used some.
Ironically the only reported deaths from both of Irans missiles attack's was four Iranians at the launch site in Iran, and one Palestinian from falling shrapnel but 100% things could get very ugly it a few hit Tel Aviv
indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Watched this interview yesterday re negotiations.
Trump not leaving much room for Iran to move and this has upped the temperature.
Guess start to worry when troops are starting to be deployed.Who to believe? The commentators that said their Iran's air defence was wiped out, or others who seem to be getting more correct than not, say when the IDF air force had to turn around due to Iran's defences?
Or somewhere in the middle/One thing I think you could say for certain, if Israel or USA attack Iran, it will be on and the whole world's economy will melt down as the price of oil will shoot up.
Also, if the reports regarding Iran's supersonic missiles are accurate, Israel will take the biggest hit in its history.
Crazy times....
I think any idea of negotiations by Trump with Iran is more theatre and just seeming to go through a process so he can say we tried sanctions and negotiations first but they didnt listen.
I think that's why he even said the other day, any attack by the Houthi's on USA vessels will be seen as a direct attack from Iran, it's all preparation for both Iran and everyone else.
I mean seriously does anyone think Iran is going to give up on their goal of destroying Israel or give up their bid to get nuclear arms through negotiation's.
Even if they do come to some deal as soon as Trump is gone they will just go back to it.
IMHO Israel would be crazy not to hit Irans nuclear facilties at some stage during Trumps term, all the stars are aligned right now and the head of the octopus needs to be chopped off.
The stars aligned are:
1. Trump is in power, so nobody to hold one of Israel hands behind it's back like Biden did, Israel is never going to get a more supportive USA president.
2. Hamas & Hezbollah are severally weakened so cant jump in firing large numbers of rockets trying to overwhelm the iron dome during an Iran missile attack Israel.
3. Houthis are currently being hit by USA, so again they too will be weakened in time, reducing that threat.
4. Most of Irans air defences systems in Iran have been taken out.
BTW. this isnt really up for debate, we know the sites that have been hit, it's reported in neutral media, it's more how many are left and if there is many more left, then another mission will take those out
5. Irans air defence systems in Syria have also been taken out, creating a safer travel route.
The question is more if or when Israel attack's Iran how much the USA will be involved,?
It might just be giving Israel what it needs to do the job or it could just be back up in the air for fueling or support for possible rescue mission or just fighter jet back up that dint hit ground targets but are there to protect Israel fighter Jets, and then there would definitely be support in defence of Israel itself if Iran retaliates even Biden did this even Jordan & Saudi Arabia intercepted some missiles..
Or it could be a true Israel & USA joint mission as hitting those deep nuclear sites are said not to be easy, kind of like blowing up the death star, strike after strike is needed to get deeper and deeper.
Either way even if it happens it could be weeks away, months away or a year or more away, currently all Irans proxies are been weakened further, you would expect the timing if happens will also be about intel on how close to Iran are in their nuclear aims (they always seem to say very soon)
Before a major strike on Iran nuclear facilities there might also be other seperate strokes in preparation, taking out any air to missile defence system's left, missile sites, or just military air fields etc
And then you would expect the main goal will be nuclear facilities,
Which I wouldn't expect is going to affect oil prices?
That will only happen if they want to destroy Irans economy and hit major oil facilties, but a war with Iran is not going to look like Gaza or Lebanon, military sites near civilian's are limited and the Iran public actually has quite large support for Israel, so the dream would be to take out Irans nuclear sites and some of the military and government leaders and trigger a fall of Islamic Republic of Iran, you would expect that's unlikely though.
BTW.. Not sure who you think has been getting anything right?
I dont know anyone that predicated Israel would weaken Hezbolah the way they have Hezbollah were always considered far far more of a threat than Hamas, or that ASAD would fall weakening Hezzbolah further and opening up Syria , or that two of the largest missile attacks including ballistic missiles and yes Hyper sonic missiles.
Hyper sonic missiles they used are faster than super sonic missles and they already used some.
Ironically the only reported deaths from both of Irans missiles attack's was four Iranians at the launch site in Iran, and one Palestinian from falling shrapnel but 100% things could get very ugly it a few hit Tel Aviv
Geez mate you know everything!!
Thanks for info.
@ Andy Mac
No i dont know everything far from it, but around this topic i consume as much content as possible from a wide range of sources, that's why i know a bit about it.
BTW. I also consume from source's i dont like, i watched the whole video above, i dont think he was wrong, but on a more neutral media platform im sure he would have added in extra insight that people wouldn't have wanted to hear on that media platform .
Hahahaha
“ …kind of like blowing up the death star, strike after strike is needed to get deeper and deeper.”
The latest from America's only reputable news source:
"In an effort to restore what he said were traditional American values that the previous administration had attempted to destroy, President Donald Trump signed an executive order Monday decreeing that all children born while President Joe Biden was in office would be renamed after Confederate generals.
"“Parents across the country were shamed by angry liberals into giving their kids ‘woke’ names like Tyler and Justin when they should have been naming them Stonewall and Forrest,” said Trump, claiming that the approximately 15 million children born during the Biden administration were all given names that denied America’s true history.
"“Biden, he made it illegal to name your kid Lee, he did that, but we’re going to restore all those kids’ names that got taken away. Every last one. So no more Noahs, no more Liams. They are all going to be Beauregard now. These people are ashamed of America. Many of these kids should be named Bragg, but got named Braydon instead, and I’m fixing it. And if you don’t do it, we’ll be picking the name for you. This goes for girls, too.”
"Trump added that any parents who failed to comply with the executive order would see all federal funding withheld from their state of residence."
andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Watched this interview yesterday re negotiations.
Trump not leaving much room for Iran to move and this has upped the temperature.
Guess start to worry when troops are starting to be deployed.Who to believe? The commentators that said their Iran's air defence was wiped out, or others who seem to be getting more correct than not, say when the IDF air force had to turn around due to Iran's defences?
Or somewhere in the middle/One thing I think you could say for certain, if Israel or USA attack Iran, it will be on and the whole world's economy will melt down as the price of oil will shoot up.
Also, if the reports regarding Iran's supersonic missiles are accurate, Israel will take the biggest hit in its history.
Crazy times....
I think any idea of negotiations by Trump with Iran is more theatre and just seeming to go through a process so he can say we tried sanctions and negotiations first but they didnt listen.
I think that's why he even said the other day, any attack by the Houthi's on USA vessels will be seen as a direct attack from Iran, it's all preparation for both Iran and everyone else.
I mean seriously does anyone think Iran is going to give up on their goal of destroying Israel or give up their bid to get nuclear arms through negotiation's.
Even if they do come to some deal as soon as Trump is gone they will just go back to it.
IMHO Israel would be crazy not to hit Irans nuclear facilties at some stage during Trumps term, all the stars are aligned right now and the head of the octopus needs to be chopped off.
The stars aligned are:
1. Trump is in power, so nobody to hold one of Israel hands behind it's back like Biden did, Israel is never going to get a more supportive USA president.
2. Hamas & Hezbollah are severally weakened so cant jump in firing large numbers of rockets trying to overwhelm the iron dome during an Iran missile attack Israel.
3. Houthis are currently being hit by USA, so again they too will be weakened in time, reducing that threat.
4. Most of Irans air defences systems in Iran have been taken out.
BTW. this isnt really up for debate, we know the sites that have been hit, it's reported in neutral media, it's more how many are left and if there is many more left, then another mission will take those out
5. Irans air defence systems in Syria have also been taken out, creating a safer travel route.
The question is more if or when Israel attack's Iran how much the USA will be involved,?
It might just be giving Israel what it needs to do the job or it could just be back up in the air for fueling or support for possible rescue mission or just fighter jet back up that dint hit ground targets but are there to protect Israel fighter Jets, and then there would definitely be support in defence of Israel itself if Iran retaliates even Biden did this even Jordan & Saudi Arabia intercepted some missiles..
Or it could be a true Israel & USA joint mission as hitting those deep nuclear sites are said not to be easy, kind of like blowing up the death star, strike after strike is needed to get deeper and deeper.
Either way even if it happens it could be weeks away, months away or a year or more away, currently all Irans proxies are been weakened further, you would expect the timing if happens will also be about intel on how close to Iran are in their nuclear aims (they always seem to say very soon)
Before a major strike on Iran nuclear facilities there might also be other seperate strokes in preparation, taking out any air to missile defence system's left, missile sites, or just military air fields etc
And then you would expect the main goal will be nuclear facilities,
Which I wouldn't expect is going to affect oil prices?
That will only happen if they want to destroy Irans economy and hit major oil facilties, but a war with Iran is not going to look like Gaza or Lebanon, military sites near civilian's are limited and the Iran public actually has quite large support for Israel, so the dream would be to take out Irans nuclear sites and some of the military and government leaders and trigger a fall of Islamic Republic of Iran, you would expect that's unlikely though.
BTW.. Not sure who you think has been getting anything right?
I dont know anyone that predicated Israel would weaken Hezbolah the way they have Hezbollah were always considered far far more of a threat than Hamas, or that ASAD would fall weakening Hezzbolah further and opening up Syria , or that two of the largest missile attacks including ballistic missiles and yes Hyper sonic missiles.
Hyper sonic missiles they used are faster than super sonic missles and they already used some.
Ironically the only reported deaths from both of Irans missiles attack's was four Iranians at the launch site in Iran, and one Palestinian from falling shrapnel but 100% things could get very ugly it a few hit Tel Aviv
Geez mate you know everything!!
Thanks for info.
It’s a pity other countries will be much more reluctant to share intelligence with the US after today’s security breach debacle,
Which makes any “plans “
that Trump (U S) might have had ,???
Much harder to achieve.
That’s why all the experts think that they can predict Trumps Presidency,
Not if he picks only unqualified incompetents.
Trump signing off on yet another winner there.
What proud Proud Boy with a sense of Pride wouldn’t want to name their son Stonewall? Such a manly name. Stonewall would grow up to be a real macho man. He’d hunt bears and he’d shoot his big gun and he’d do it with with pride. Fiddlesticks to standing back and standing by, Stonewall is coming out.
And who seriously wouldn’t want to be called Beauregard? Gotta be just about the best name ever. Even if it’s got a French ring to it. At least it’s not soy boy sounding Lafayette.
This executive order - and MAGA has the greatest executive orders we’ve ever seen, it will do things with executive orders that the world has never seen before, great things, we love our MAGA executive orders - could also mandate more recent history, and accelerate the rehabilitation of the vigilante. Eastwood, Norris and Bronson should be added to the list. Bickle? Hell yeah. No more pills, no more bad food, no more destroyers of your body - MAHA! And Hudson, of course, for the Proud Boys.
;)
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?si=ECCG7MtORuIX8bRB With the polls in America and Canada turning hard against Trump and MAGA .
Clive Palmer says Australia needs more
MAGA policies.
Ha ha ha
At least someone else has a sense of humour.
https://m.
andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Watched this interview yesterday re negotiations.
Trump not leaving much room for Iran to move and this has upped the temperature.
Guess start to worry when troops are starting to be deployed.Who to believe? The commentators that said their Iran's air defence was wiped out, or others who seem to be getting more correct than not, say when the IDF air force had to turn around due to Iran's defences?
Or somewhere in the middle/One thing I think you could say for certain, if Israel or USA attack Iran, it will be on and the whole world's economy will melt down as the price of oil will shoot up.
Also, if the reports regarding Iran's supersonic missiles are accurate, Israel will take the biggest hit in its history.
Crazy times....
I think any idea of negotiations by Trump with Iran is more theatre and just seeming to go through a process so he can say we tried sanctions and negotiations first but they didnt listen.
I think that's why he even said the other day, any attack by the Houthi's on USA vessels will be seen as a direct attack from Iran, it's all preparation for both Iran and everyone else.
I mean seriously does anyone think Iran is going to give up on their goal of destroying Israel or give up their bid to get nuclear arms through negotiation's.
Even if they do come to some deal as soon as Trump is gone they will just go back to it.
IMHO Israel would be crazy not to hit Irans nuclear facilties at some stage during Trumps term, all the stars are aligned right now and the head of the octopus needs to be chopped off.
The stars aligned are:
1. Trump is in power, so nobody to hold one of Israel hands behind it's back like Biden did, Israel is never going to get a more supportive USA president.
2. Hamas & Hezbollah are severally weakened so cant jump in firing large numbers of rockets trying to overwhelm the iron dome during an Iran missile attack Israel.
3. Houthis are currently being hit by USA, so again they too will be weakened in time, reducing that threat.
4. Most of Irans air defences systems in Iran have been taken out.
BTW. this isnt really up for debate, we know the sites that have been hit, it's reported in neutral media, it's more how many are left and if there is many more left, then another mission will take those out
5. Irans air defence systems in Syria have also been taken out, creating a safer travel route.
The question is more if or when Israel attack's Iran how much the USA will be involved,?
It might just be giving Israel what it needs to do the job or it could just be back up in the air for fueling or support for possible rescue mission or just fighter jet back up that dint hit ground targets but are there to protect Israel fighter Jets, and then there would definitely be support in defence of Israel itself if Iran retaliates even Biden did this even Jordan & Saudi Arabia intercepted some missiles..
Or it could be a true Israel & USA joint mission as hitting those deep nuclear sites are said not to be easy, kind of like blowing up the death star, strike after strike is needed to get deeper and deeper.
Either way even if it happens it could be weeks away, months away or a year or more away, currently all Irans proxies are been weakened further, you would expect the timing if happens will also be about intel on how close to Iran are in their nuclear aims (they always seem to say very soon)
Before a major strike on Iran nuclear facilities there might also be other seperate strokes in preparation, taking out any air to missile defence system's left, missile sites, or just military air fields etc
And then you would expect the main goal will be nuclear facilities,
Which I wouldn't expect is going to affect oil prices?
That will only happen if they want to destroy Irans economy and hit major oil facilties, but a war with Iran is not going to look like Gaza or Lebanon, military sites near civilian's are limited and the Iran public actually has quite large support for Israel, so the dream would be to take out Irans nuclear sites and some of the military and government leaders and trigger a fall of Islamic Republic of Iran, you would expect that's unlikely though.
BTW.. Not sure who you think has been getting anything right?
I dont know anyone that predicated Israel would weaken Hezbolah the way they have Hezbollah were always considered far far more of a threat than Hamas, or that ASAD would fall weakening Hezzbolah further and opening up Syria , or that two of the largest missile attacks including ballistic missiles and yes Hyper sonic missiles.
Hyper sonic missiles they used are faster than super sonic missles and they already used some.
Ironically the only reported deaths from both of Irans missiles attack's was four Iranians at the launch site in Iran, and one Palestinian from falling shrapnel but 100% things could get very ugly it a few hit Tel Aviv
Geez mate you know everything!!
Thanks for info.
Saw this video last night it goes into detail of the missiles, stealth bombers and radar jamming and locating fighter they are currently using in Yemen on Houthi targets.
I was surprised these were needed there, but all three of these are what would be ideally used in hitting Iran nuclear sites
Israel has bunker busters but they dont have those next level ones mentioned that go even deeper, and they are the ones that articles and videos say Israel needs to do the job.
An aspect i forgot yesterday that would also make Iran very nervous is Israel have shown on a number of occasion's now that leaders be it terrorist or other are not safe anywhere, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh got taken out in Iran and Hezbolah leader Nasrallah got taken out deep underground, it's clear that Mossad has very good intel and you would expect if they wanted to in a war could take out high political or military leaders they have also shown that they can have other thing's up their sleeves like pagers/walkie talky attack, so who knows what they have prepared in Iran just incase.
Israel never saw Hamas as a serious threat so never put the time and energy into them hence why they dont have these kinds of things ready for Hamas, they have always seen Hezbollah and Iran as the big threats hence why their intel etc on them is so much better.
BTW. This is also interesting
"Hegseth beefs up Middle East warship presence with 2 aircraft carriers
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, in a rare move, is beefing up the Navy warship presence in the Middle East, ordering two aircraft carriers to be there next month as the U.S. increases strikes on the Yemen-based Houthi rebels, according to a U.S. official.
It will be the second time in six months that the U.S. has kept two carrier strike groups in that region, with generally only one there. Prior to that, it had been years since the U.S. had committed that much warship power to the Middle East."
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2025/03/21/hegseth-beefs-up-mid...
Not saying this is related directly to Iran in this case you would expect more just support for houthi operation's, but you would expect that if there is a planned attack on Iran in the future, there will be two aircraft carriers in the region, even if it's just to support Israel incase shit goes bad, so its going to be interesting to see if they go back to one or keep two there after houthi strikes and issue calms down.
If they dont then maybe its fair to say that chances of a Iran strike are higher than in the past.
Eggspurt DODGE denial.
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@info suffering a blood lust attack of priapism at the prospect of more killings
indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Watched this interview yesterday re negotiations.
Trump not leaving much room for Iran to move and this has upped the temperature.
Guess start to worry when troops are starting to be deployed.Who to believe? The commentators that said their Iran's air defence was wiped out, or others who seem to be getting more correct than not, say when the IDF air force had to turn around due to Iran's defences?
Or somewhere in the middle/One thing I think you could say for certain, if Israel or USA attack Iran, it will be on and the whole world's economy will melt down as the price of oil will shoot up.
Also, if the reports regarding Iran's supersonic missiles are accurate, Israel will take the biggest hit in its history.
Crazy times....
I think any idea of negotiations by Trump with Iran is more theatre and just seeming to go through a process so he can say we tried sanctions and negotiations first but they didnt listen.
I think that's why he even said the other day, any attack by the Houthi's on USA vessels will be seen as a direct attack from Iran, it's all preparation for both Iran and everyone else.
I mean seriously does anyone think Iran is going to give up on their goal of destroying Israel or give up their bid to get nuclear arms through negotiation's.
Even if they do come to some deal as soon as Trump is gone they will just go back to it.
IMHO Israel would be crazy not to hit Irans nuclear facilties at some stage during Trumps term, all the stars are aligned right now and the head of the octopus needs to be chopped off.
The stars aligned are:
1. Trump is in power, so nobody to hold one of Israel hands behind it's back like Biden did, Israel is never going to get a more supportive USA president.
2. Hamas & Hezbollah are severally weakened so cant jump in firing large numbers of rockets trying to overwhelm the iron dome during an Iran missile attack Israel.
3. Houthis are currently being hit by USA, so again they too will be weakened in time, reducing that threat.
4. Most of Irans air defences systems in Iran have been taken out.
BTW. this isnt really up for debate, we know the sites that have been hit, it's reported in neutral media, it's more how many are left and if there is many more left, then another mission will take those out
5. Irans air defence systems in Syria have also been taken out, creating a safer travel route.
The question is more if or when Israel attack's Iran how much the USA will be involved,?
It might just be giving Israel what it needs to do the job or it could just be back up in the air for fueling or support for possible rescue mission or just fighter jet back up that dint hit ground targets but are there to protect Israel fighter Jets, and then there would definitely be support in defence of Israel itself if Iran retaliates even Biden did this even Jordan & Saudi Arabia intercepted some missiles..
Or it could be a true Israel & USA joint mission as hitting those deep nuclear sites are said not to be easy, kind of like blowing up the death star, strike after strike is needed to get deeper and deeper.
Either way even if it happens it could be weeks away, months away or a year or more away, currently all Irans proxies are been weakened further, you would expect the timing if happens will also be about intel on how close to Iran are in their nuclear aims (they always seem to say very soon)
Before a major strike on Iran nuclear facilities there might also be other seperate strokes in preparation, taking out any air to missile defence system's left, missile sites, or just military air fields etc
And then you would expect the main goal will be nuclear facilities,
Which I wouldn't expect is going to affect oil prices?
That will only happen if they want to destroy Irans economy and hit major oil facilties, but a war with Iran is not going to look like Gaza or Lebanon, military sites near civilian's are limited and the Iran public actually has quite large support for Israel, so the dream would be to take out Irans nuclear sites and some of the military and government leaders and trigger a fall of Islamic Republic of Iran, you would expect that's unlikely though.
BTW.. Not sure who you think has been getting anything right?
I dont know anyone that predicated Israel would weaken Hezbolah the way they have Hezbollah were always considered far far more of a threat than Hamas, or that ASAD would fall weakening Hezzbolah further and opening up Syria , or that two of the largest missile attacks including ballistic missiles and yes Hyper sonic missiles.
Hyper sonic missiles they used are faster than super sonic missles and they already used some.
Ironically the only reported deaths from both of Irans missiles attack's was four Iranians at the launch site in Iran, and one Palestinian from falling shrapnel but 100% things could get very ugly it a few hit Tel Aviv
Geez mate you know everything!!
Thanks for info.
Saw this video last night it goes into detail of the missiles, stealth bombers and radar jamming and locating fighter they are currently using in Yemen on Houthi targets.
I was surprised these were needed there, but all three of these are what would be ideally used in hitting Iran nuclear sites
Israel has bunker busters but they dont have those next level ones mentioned that go even deeper, and they are the ones that articles and videos say Israel needs to do the job.
An aspect i forgot yesterday that would also make Iran very nervous is Israel have shown on a number of occasion's now that leaders be it terrorist or other are not safe anywhere, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh got taken out in Iran and Hezbolah leader Nasrallah got taken out deep underground, it's clear that Mossad has very good intel and you would expect if they wanted to in a war could take out high political or military leaders they have also shown that they can have other thing's up their sleeves like pagers/walkie talky attack, so who knows what they have prepared in Iran just incase.
Israel never saw Hamas as a serious threat so never put the time and energy into them hence why they dont have these kinds of things ready for Hamas, they have always seen Hezbollah and Iran as the big threats hence why their intel etc on them is so much better.
BTW. This is also interesting
"Hegseth beefs up Middle East warship presence with 2 aircraft carriers
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, in a rare move, is beefing up the Navy warship presence in the Middle East, ordering two aircraft carriers to be there next month as the U.S. increases strikes on the Yemen-based Houthi rebels, according to a U.S. official.
It will be the second time in six months that the U.S. has kept two carrier strike groups in that region, with generally only one there. Prior to that, it had been years since the U.S. had committed that much warship power to the Middle East."
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2025/03/21/hegseth-beefs-up-mid...Not saying this is related directly to Iran in this case you would expect more just support for houthi operation's, but you would expect that if there is a planned attack on Iran in the future, there will be two aircraft carriers in the region, even if it's just to support Israel incase shit goes bad, so its going to be interesting to see if they go back to one or keep two there after houthi strikes and issue calms down.
If they dont then maybe its fair to say that chances of a Iran strike are higher than in the past.
Tried to watch some of that video, crikey how is it? USA USA Woo woo.
Was your favourite movie Top Gun by any chance?
But I digress.
No argument from me that the USA has overwhelming fire power and will be able to bomb the crap out of Yemen or Iran.
However, I do not believe this will stop the Houthi's. They will relocate and still be able to lob cheap missiles and drones at Israel and the shipping lanes.
They have been bombed via the USA through Saudi Arabia for years and they keep going.
Remember they stopped these activities when there was a cease fire in Gaza and only started them up again when the clear genocide again started up.
I could post evidence here, but you are too far gone with the Hasbara nonsense you continually sprout.
Eventually they may take out a US war ship, who knows?
In regard to Iran, it has a huge land mass and unless all the reports of their missile/ drone capabilities are absolute BS, they will be able to inflict significant damage to the US bases in the region, and Israel.
Additionally, they have stated that if they are attacked, they will view the Gulf states as involved and will target their oil facilities on land and sea.
What that would do to the price of oil is something I am sure the people in the US with more level heads are taking into consideration.
Attacking Iran I reckon would unleash a shit storm that would make Iraq look like a little kids picnic.
Has Iranian super sonic missile have the capability of taking out a US carrier? Dunno, some seem to think it could be a possibility.
Not to even mention the ties that Iran has with Russia and China??
would either of these countries step in? probably not Russia, but my understanding is that China relies on Iran for a lot of its oil.
Lots of unknown unknowns as Rumsfled was stated.
Reckon the US/ world economy can take a hit like that at the moment?
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No one seems to have noticed the worst security breach in US history,
Many times worse than Hillary Clinton’s security leak , but the people who hounded her and crucified her, have now gone strangely silent,
The Group chat members continued to deny the leaked information was classified, and attack the journalist who was mistakenly invited into the chat as a liar .
All the time knowing the journalist had screenshots of the whole conversation. and it was obvious the information was classified.
The problems with picking a loyal but hopelessly unqualified, incompetent cabinet,
Already threatens US security.
Maga….all the way. Unhinged dog attacks reporter.
Roadkill wrote:Maga….all the way. Unhinged dog attacks reporter.
“I’m American and I’d like to hear your answer to what she’s asking “
Classic takedown.
The administration has said that the classified information, was unclassified,
Simple.
andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:Lots of balls in the air at the moment, can the clown doing the juggling bring peace to the middle east ? I somehow doubt it , unless prayers are answered and a miracle happens. Australia might want to think about getting our own oil production back online , hard to rely on big brother for stability in supply. Plus the price may just skyrocket. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-waltz-national-security-adviser-iran-n...
Watched this interview yesterday re negotiations.
Trump not leaving much room for Iran to move and this has upped the temperature.
Guess start to worry when troops are starting to be deployed.Who to believe? The commentators that said their Iran's air defence was wiped out, or others who seem to be getting more correct than not, say when the IDF air force had to turn around due to Iran's defences?
Or somewhere in the middle/One thing I think you could say for certain, if Israel or USA attack Iran, it will be on and the whole world's economy will melt down as the price of oil will shoot up.
Also, if the reports regarding Iran's supersonic missiles are accurate, Israel will take the biggest hit in its history.
Crazy times....
I think any idea of negotiations by Trump with Iran is more theatre and just seeming to go through a process so he can say we tried sanctions and negotiations first but they didnt listen.
I think that's why he even said the other day, any attack by the Houthi's on USA vessels will be seen as a direct attack from Iran, it's all preparation for both Iran and everyone else.
I mean seriously does anyone think Iran is going to give up on their goal of destroying Israel or give up their bid to get nuclear arms through negotiation's.
Even if they do come to some deal as soon as Trump is gone they will just go back to it.
IMHO Israel would be crazy not to hit Irans nuclear facilties at some stage during Trumps term, all the stars are aligned right now and the head of the octopus needs to be chopped off.
The stars aligned are:
1. Trump is in power, so nobody to hold one of Israel hands behind it's back like Biden did, Israel is never going to get a more supportive USA president.
2. Hamas & Hezbollah are severally weakened so cant jump in firing large numbers of rockets trying to overwhelm the iron dome during an Iran missile attack Israel.
3. Houthis are currently being hit by USA, so again they too will be weakened in time, reducing that threat.
4. Most of Irans air defences systems in Iran have been taken out.
BTW. this isnt really up for debate, we know the sites that have been hit, it's reported in neutral media, it's more how many are left and if there is many more left, then another mission will take those out
5. Irans air defence systems in Syria have also been taken out, creating a safer travel route.
The question is more if or when Israel attack's Iran how much the USA will be involved,?
It might just be giving Israel what it needs to do the job or it could just be back up in the air for fueling or support for possible rescue mission or just fighter jet back up that dint hit ground targets but are there to protect Israel fighter Jets, and then there would definitely be support in defence of Israel itself if Iran retaliates even Biden did this even Jordan & Saudi Arabia intercepted some missiles..
Or it could be a true Israel & USA joint mission as hitting those deep nuclear sites are said not to be easy, kind of like blowing up the death star, strike after strike is needed to get deeper and deeper.
Either way even if it happens it could be weeks away, months away or a year or more away, currently all Irans proxies are been weakened further, you would expect the timing if happens will also be about intel on how close to Iran are in their nuclear aims (they always seem to say very soon)
Before a major strike on Iran nuclear facilities there might also be other seperate strokes in preparation, taking out any air to missile defence system's left, missile sites, or just military air fields etc
And then you would expect the main goal will be nuclear facilities,
Which I wouldn't expect is going to affect oil prices?
That will only happen if they want to destroy Irans economy and hit major oil facilties, but a war with Iran is not going to look like Gaza or Lebanon, military sites near civilian's are limited and the Iran public actually has quite large support for Israel, so the dream would be to take out Irans nuclear sites and some of the military and government leaders and trigger a fall of Islamic Republic of Iran, you would expect that's unlikely though.
BTW.. Not sure who you think has been getting anything right?
I dont know anyone that predicated Israel would weaken Hezbolah the way they have Hezbollah were always considered far far more of a threat than Hamas, or that ASAD would fall weakening Hezzbolah further and opening up Syria , or that two of the largest missile attacks including ballistic missiles and yes Hyper sonic missiles.
Hyper sonic missiles they used are faster than super sonic missles and they already used some.
Ironically the only reported deaths from both of Irans missiles attack's was four Iranians at the launch site in Iran, and one Palestinian from falling shrapnel but 100% things could get very ugly it a few hit Tel Aviv
Geez mate you know everything!!
Thanks for info.
Saw this video last night it goes into detail of the missiles, stealth bombers and radar jamming and locating fighter they are currently using in Yemen on Houthi targets.
I was surprised these were needed there, but all three of these are what would be ideally used in hitting Iran nuclear sites
Israel has bunker busters but they dont have those next level ones mentioned that go even deeper, and they are the ones that articles and videos say Israel needs to do the job.
An aspect i forgot yesterday that would also make Iran very nervous is Israel have shown on a number of occasion's now that leaders be it terrorist or other are not safe anywhere, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh got taken out in Iran and Hezbolah leader Nasrallah got taken out deep underground, it's clear that Mossad has very good intel and you would expect if they wanted to in a war could take out high political or military leaders they have also shown that they can have other thing's up their sleeves like pagers/walkie talky attack, so who knows what they have prepared in Iran just incase.
Israel never saw Hamas as a serious threat so never put the time and energy into them hence why they dont have these kinds of things ready for Hamas, they have always seen Hezbollah and Iran as the big threats hence why their intel etc on them is so much better.
BTW. This is also interesting
"Hegseth beefs up Middle East warship presence with 2 aircraft carriers
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, in a rare move, is beefing up the Navy warship presence in the Middle East, ordering two aircraft carriers to be there next month as the U.S. increases strikes on the Yemen-based Houthi rebels, according to a U.S. official.
It will be the second time in six months that the U.S. has kept two carrier strike groups in that region, with generally only one there. Prior to that, it had been years since the U.S. had committed that much warship power to the Middle East."
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2025/03/21/hegseth-beefs-up-mid...Not saying this is related directly to Iran in this case you would expect more just support for houthi operation's, but you would expect that if there is a planned attack on Iran in the future, there will be two aircraft carriers in the region, even if it's just to support Israel incase shit goes bad, so its going to be interesting to see if they go back to one or keep two there after houthi strikes and issue calms down.
If they dont then maybe its fair to say that chances of a Iran strike are higher than in the past.
Tried to watch some of that video, crikey how is it? USA USA Woo woo.
Was your favourite movie Top Gun by any chance?
But I digress.No argument from me that the USA has overwhelming fire power and will be able to bomb the crap out of Yemen or Iran.
However, I do not believe this will stop the Houthi's. They will relocate and still be able to lob cheap missiles and drones at Israel and the shipping lanes.
They have been bombed via the USA through Saudi Arabia for years and they keep going.
Remember they stopped these activities when there was a cease fire in Gaza and only started them up again when the clear genocide again started up.
I could post evidence here, but you are too far gone with the Hasbara nonsense you continually sprout.
Eventually they may take out a US war ship, who knows?In regard to Iran, it has a huge land mass and unless all the reports of their missile/ drone capabilities are absolute BS, they will be able to inflict significant damage to the US bases in the region, and Israel.
Additionally, they have stated that if they are attacked, they will view the Gulf states as involved and will target their oil facilities on land and sea.
What that would do to the price of oil is something I am sure the people in the US with more level heads are taking into consideration.
Attacking Iran I reckon would unleash a shit storm that would make Iraq look like a little kids picnic.
Has Iranian super sonic missile have the capability of taking out a US carrier? Dunno, some seem to think it could be a possibility.
Not to even mention the ties that Iran has with Russia and China??
would either of these countries step in? probably not Russia, but my understanding is that China relies on Iran for a lot of its oil.
Lots of unknown unknowns as Rumsfled was stated.
Reckon the US/ world economy can take a hit like that at the moment?
Regarding the Houthis you always seem to have this idea that if you cant fully destroy an enemy that you should let them be, that is just mental, if enemies cause you issues or attack you, ideally you hit them back as hard as you can, not only does that weaken them reducing the threat but it helps create a deterrence, the worst thing you can do is let them get away with attacks and let them build up further strength and become more of a threat and give them a green light to get away with things without consequences.
The Houthi's only have what they have because of Iran, (while millions of Yemenis starve) by hitting the houthi's not only do you weaken them but your basically hurting Iran making them weaker as a military force and quite literally burning up their money.
Same deal with all their other proxies, Iran has spent billion's and got close to nothing for all the money spent, they are currently weaker than ever because they dont have all these proxies for protection, their economy is also not doing great and even though they are an energy super power(fossil fuel based) they are quite literally having trouble keeping the lights on with gas shortages with high winter demands (all this hopefully only further turn's their people against the government)
They are no position to get into a wider war, and this below was before Trump's further sanctions.
"As of December 2024 Iran was experiencing its deepest and longest economic crisis in its modern history. The ministry of social welfare last year announced that 57 percent of Iranians are having some level of malnourishment. Thirty percent live below the poverty line."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_economic_crisis#:~:text=As%20of%20....
The Houthis have been causing issues for way too long they are not just a threat to Israel, everyone loses out from them even Egypt is losing 800 million a month because of them billions since Oct 2023, all countries who's International shipping that cant pass through there loses out because they must go the long way around which add's extra cost to consumer's
In regards to cheap missiles, can you please tell me which ones?
Yemen is 2,000 km away from Israel even further than what Iran is, no long range missiles are cheap
Drones yes they are cheap in the scheme of things and there was one that got through to Israel from Yemen but this is an area that you can be sure they are now more onto and you can bet monitoring and combating will only be improving, for perspective a drone takes ten hours to get to Israel from Yemen.
Do you really think if Israel or USA hits Iran nuclear or military site's Iran is really then going to attack other gulf states?
That would be so self destructive Iran would then not only have Israel and USA retaliating further and cause a real war and actually hit Iran oil facilities, and it would give countries like Saudi Arabia no choice but to retaliate and only push them to aligning closer with Israel & USA.
BTW. Dont forget Iran hasn't even retaliated to Israel's last air strikes last Oct even before Trump was on the scene.
In regard to Russia, it's a complete long shot to think they are going to help Iran while they themselves are involved in a war, the air defences systems taken out were Russian, apparently Russia wouldn't provide more because they need them for themselves and look what happened in Syria, Russia went missing for Asad, and do you really think China is going to get involved in a war over Iran?
Would that be smart or worth it?
If Israel or USA do strike Iran, it will be selected air strikes and then expect missiles fired back at Israel or towards aircraft carriers
BTW you really do have a gall to call a neutral military video hasbara just becaiuse its American especially after you just shared a video from Al Jazzera a propaganda channel run by the Qatar government, FFS they are banned in half the middle east because of the BS and bias and violence they incite and links to the muslim brotherhood.
Anyway since this morning ive seen news that proper USA stealth bombers are getting positioned in the region close enough to strike but out of reach of any Iran missiles.
Maybe a bluff, maybe not?
Things are bad when
Piers Morgan is attacking the Republicans.
Roadkill wrote:Maga….all the way. Unhinged dog attacks reporter.
She embodies the mentality of about half of America. You'd listen to her for about 10 seconds and think "Hah! What a complete whacko." but instead her constituents listen to her and think "She nailed it again!" She's has quickly become one of the most powerful politicians in America.
I mean we are talking about someone who blamed massive wildfires on "Jewish space lasers", was a believer in QAnon, and said mass school shootings in the US were faked, amongst other crazy things.
Here's a quote: "Q is a patriot, we know that for sure," Greene said in a video from 2017, in which she recapped some of Q's predictions and why she supports them.
"There's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it," she said, referring to Trump.
It feels like we're living in a farce, but unfortunately that's not the case.
Group chat exposing a bunch of incompetent liars.
yep. I know many conservatives. They've long been done.
The only ones left are zealots and people with mad blind faith.
@sypkan, careful you don't start having 'faith' in a divine plan..
@seeds' posting of Ricky Gervais comes to mind..
"Religion's greatest trick wasn't making people believe there is a god
but that idea is not subject to ridicule, that it was sacred"
the same can be said for maga and trump's greatest trick..
we shouldn't ridicule them? hahahahaha, what the fark?
mick66 wrote:Between sinking the stock market, making Canadians feel like it's Poland August1939, causing recession fears to spike, blaming Ukraine for leaving Russia no choice but to invade, and having your top security officials plan attacks via text like teenage girls planning mean girl moves via Snapchat, it seriously feels like we're living through the superpower equivalent of The Producers. Perhaps there's some massive payoff for Trump if he can turn the US into Argentina (pick any period from 1972 to the present,)?
cheers, cracker-concise wordcraft @mick66. standard comment around my hood re the US - 'if it wasn't so serious it'd be funny'. On the basic empathy level, fuckingidiots just don't get it. You axe a job or sepatrate someone from their family, do you say 'it's regrettable but necessary' and publicly provide support.. or do you smirk, jeer, find a photo op, and make a point of saying the job wasn't worthwhile, and the person deserved deportation..? just fucking revolting. and embarrassing for a once great nation to have been dragged so low.
All the real experts say the information shared in the Signal group chat was definitely highly classified,
Except for the very unqualified
Hegseth and Gabbard .
Stealth Security Signal
?si=V3I41jpLmM3SEz0w OK, so do we want a sneak-peek of what Trump/Elon 2.0 might look like 2 years from now?
Let's go to Argentina, where somehow, a man versed in Austrian economics took power. It's working quite well, given the history.
The fart of the deal.
Fox News , has turned the art of lying into
a 24/7 sport !
Confusion wrote:No one seems to have noticed the worst security breach in US history,
We got to that yesterday, but were a couple of days late tbf
There was one meme of big bird walking with Vader and stormtroopers that made me giggle, but I couldn't find a good enough link for you all.
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