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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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basesix Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 7:54am
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I’ll digress for minute, I didn’t want to get involved in this really , because what’s been happening in that region of late, I find it despicable and abhorrent and disturbing to think about all the atrocities.
I hope that both guilty parties are held accountable, but Netanyahu should be tried in the highest International Court as soon as possible, he’s been the main perpetrator, purely of the drive to solidify his position ( which was rocky at the time) in Israeli politics.

It's all disgusting @AW. Jewish people that I know have explained what it feels like to them. Apparently many aussie jews are done with Israel as it stands and it makes them sad and feel they are back in a wilderness without a homeland. Probably In the same way that so many muslims come to Australia to escape the fuckedupedness aspects of their religion where it is politicised and weaponised. fucking peanut-brained monkeys, the lot of us.

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 8:09am
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AlfredWallace wrote:

I’ll digress for minute, I didn’t want to get involved in this really , because what’s been happening in that region of late, I find it despicable and abhorrent and disturbing to think about all the atrocities.
I hope that both guilty parties are held accountable, but Netanyahu should be tried in the highest International Court as soon as possible, he’s been the main perpetrator, purely of the drive to solidify his position ( which was rocky at the time) in Israeli politics.

It's all disgusting @AW. Jewish people that I know have explained what it feels like to them. Apparently many aussie jews are done with Israel as it stands and it makes them sad and feel they are back in a wilderness without a homeland. Probably In the same way that so many muslims come to Australia to escape the fuckedupedness aspects of their religion where it is politicised and weaponised. fucking peanut-brained monkeys, the lot of us.

Basesix. Hi mate. How are you feeling ?

I entirely understand why people from other countries are continually knocking on Australia’s door, I would if current homeland conditions are horrific.
Doesn’t matter where they are from, we are human after all, we love, we are loved, we have children, relatives and so on, we just want to be secure, it’s our children’s future at hand when wars dictate.
I absolutely get angry we I hear people sometimes say Australia, the joints fucked.

Yeah, we’ll go elsewhere and see what it’s ‘really’ like.
We are very fortunate to be Australians living in Australia, AW

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 8:51am
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Meidas Touch news media…….ha ha….news for sale..any story we can make it up….just pay up…..like the dems….main customer most likely.
VJ’s vid on DOGE was very good….yesterday at 9.33….explained heaps on what Musk is doing…..and the speed of transition….and how important that is.

Ha ha the crowd turns Musk and his teenage sycophants away from the Department of Labour and the judge places another temporary restraining order on Musk to stay away from there.
Meanwhile Musk is shown sitting behind Trumps Resolute desk on the latest cover of Time Magazine,
That’s gotta hurt!
I wonder where the crowd get their information ,
Not Fox or your lame stream media,
that’s for sure.

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 8:56am

Oh no I’m missing the goat

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 9:29am
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Yeah, good luck to those government departments. They got no chance.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFvZFOPMvUY/?igsh=ZHppd2ZpcHRwbTB6

The Nerd Reich,
Shitler Youth.

@Indo, sorry I could respond.
Done with it.
Just hope some Koori family doesn't show up on your door with a gun and a moving van one day and a copy of your posts here. You may have some explaining to do.

Come on mate lets keep going, lets just do it without abuse etc

Im sure i can tempt you latter with talk about the legality of borders etc, i have questions on that aspect.

Id really love your take and reply on things ive pointed out though.

Especially why is Jordan never talked about as the Palestine state when it was created put of 77% of Palestine and has majority Palestinian population? (about 60%)

Again there is many options that could be explored where Israel gives up land too, another logical idea would be for both Israel and Jordan to give up land that borders each other creating one seperate Palestine state with the cherry on top being it bordering a shared Jerusalem.

Currently the practical situation is crazy you have Gaza in one spot you have the West Bank Palestine PLO controlled areas like islands in another.

Of late I have been learning about the two state solutions offered that Arabs/Palestinians turned down latter in history.

Keeping thing's connected with the USA topic, the most baffling is the one Arafat rejected with Bill Clinton era.

It was an amazing deal that will never ever be offered again, it's insane that it was rejected and it's really not that long ago.

"The proposals included the establishment of a demilitarised Palestinian state on some 92% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip, with some territorial compensation for the Palestinians from pre-1967 Israeli territory; the dismantling of most of the settlements and the concentration of the bulk of the settlers inside the 8% of the West Bank to be annexed by Israel; the establishment of the Palestinian capital in east Jerusalem, in which some Arab neighborhoods would become sovereign Palestinian territory and others would enjoy "functional autonomy"; Palestinian sovereignty over half the Old City of Jerusalem (the Muslim and Christian quarters) and "custodianship," though not sovereignty, over the Temple Mount; a return of refugees to the prospective Palestinian state though with no "right of return" to Israel proper; and the organisation by the international community of a massive aid programme to facilitate the refugees' rehabilitation."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/23/israel3

BTW. Your comment on Aboriginal thing is nonsense, this is about state ownership and borders, there is no jews in Gaza even though Jew's have been living there for thousand's of years (in lesser numbers than elsewhere), all living there were removed often by force.

The topic of private land ownership disputes in the West Bank(Judea & Samaria) is a very different topic and is said to be over about 1% of the land in the region and not in the exclusive Palestine areas they are in the shared zone areas, if the other issues of states was figured out these issue too would be solved.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 9:11am
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Oh no I’m missing the goat

He won his heat, maybe a bit over scored though

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basesix Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 9:22am

Pittar up against Colapinto now

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 9:55am

This kind of went under the radar from two days ago.

"President Trump gave order to “obliterate” Iran, if assassinated"

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GuySmiley Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 10:25am

This didn’t escape the attention of anyone

https://chaser.com.au/world/cunt-out-cunts-cunt/

IMG-2640

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 10:31am
indo-dreaming wrote:
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Oh no I’m missing the goat

He won his heat, maybe a bit over scored though

I wonder what Trump thinks about pesky Surfrider Foundation,
Trying to keep the water and air clean from oil spills and other pollution,
How annoying would that be for Trump and you optimistic MAGAphiles .

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andy-mac Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 10:58am
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This didn’t escape the attention of anyone

https://chaser.com.au/world/cunt-out-cunts-cunt/

IMG-2640

Haha that cracked me up...
It's funny cause it's probably true..

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basesix Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 11:07am

^ me too, that's a satirist at their wits' end who's run out of words about the state of the world.

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sypkan Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 11:49am

I'm not gonna quote it because those big blocks of text and that quote function do my head in, but this post by Adam12 at

Friday, 7 Feb 2025 at 9:10pm

was very good and informative

I've lost track of the indod v adam12 chat due to those quotes and text blocks - but generally indo's saying clinton circa 90's was the gold standard - and adam's saying there's 100 ways to slice a pie, none of them ideal, but ya gotta slice a pie...

yep, yep...

but much of the (professional) chatter now, is that it's simply too late for a two state solution

and whilst two state solution chat comforts certain players and diolomats, there's now been simply too much recent movement of bodies, and bunkering down of bodies, to make a two state solution viable

sadly, yep yep too

as a two state solution guy.. it pains me to say, people pushing this now, just look like they're appeasing both sides with dated lip service...

somewhat detached from the realities

nutters on both sides clearly not interested at all

nutters ruling the day...

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Roadkill Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 2:05pm

Trump threatens Panama and the Suez Canal. Panama now says they won’t renew an investment deal with China.

Got to give the orange turd credit for that win.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 2:59pm

Indo, solid post above on the 23%/77% split and much of the land becoming Transjordan - good historical digging there. I don't know this history too well as haven't looked into it in detail. Stems from the Balfour declaration, which stems from decades of influence on British politics by the Jews of the City, which stems back to either 1596 or 1696 when they were permitted into England (forget which) - and includes milestones like the Bank of England being formed in 1694 and the permitting of usury after Napoleon's defeat in 1815. (Remember Bible says no to this, Koran says no, Jewish Temple rules say something altogether different...) All this permitted savings of which the Industrial Revolution was creating heaps, to be put to work and gain interest, allowing the first generation to retire in history. All this financial compounding in the City made it far more complex and there were many Jewish families and businessmen who could thrive in this environment, eventually influencing politics in the world's Empire of the time. Think of the Samuel family and Royal Dutch Shell for example - originally importers of rare tropical shells, believe it or not.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 3:03pm

OK what's going on

Trump ends Biden's security clearance
Trump removes Kennedy Centre trustees (performing arts centre in DC, probably not MAGA people) replaces them with himself

And on the DOGE theme, Trump directs Elon to next audit the Pentagon with DOGE

Popcorn time, somewhere down there is an office with David Duchovny and a poster on the wall saying 'I want to believe' - and we are going to find out where all the cool antigravity funding and tech came from. Maybe. But popcorn anyway.

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 3:23pm
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OK what's going on

Trump ends Biden's security clearance
Trump removes Kennedy Centre trustees (performing arts centre in DC, probably not MAGA people) replaces them with himself

And on the DOGE theme, Trump directs Elon to next audit the Pentagon with DOGE

Popcorn time, somewhere down there is an office with David Duchovny and a poster on the wall saying 'I want to believe' - and we are going to find out where all the cool antigravity funding and tech came from. Maybe. But popcorn anyway.

Trump and Musk have an authoritarian agenda , and will keep pushing and breaking the law to see what they can get away with .
So far there have been legal restrictions to what they have tried to do,
Hopefully that continues, or the courts , slow down the process.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 3:27pm

Yep jeff, the checks and balances in full effect

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 3:29pm

At some point we'll have to turn to Congress - any legislative agenda that might be passed codifying the MAGA. Republicans have house and senate, however they are at odds at present to include all this in one or two bills. (A first bill going after immigration specifically, or all-in-one)

Also seeing lots of comments from around the world "I'm not following my country's politics but am looking at the US closely" - world's eyes are on US

Also Millei in Argentina has withdrawn from WHO

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 4:05pm

https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/us-news/trump-orders-freeze-of-aid-to-sout...

"“As long as South Africa continues to support bad actors on the world stage and allows violent attacks on innocent disfavored minority farmers, the United States will stop aid and assistance to the country,” the White House said in a summary of the order.

The White House said Trump is also going to announce a program to resettle white South African farmers and their families as refugees."

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blackers Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 4:12pm

Republicans have a majority of 5 in the House, 7 in the Senate. Wouldn't take much to get things knocked down or changed if he goes too hard. He has enemies and people with their own aspirations within. Let's see how it goes.

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Roadkill Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 4:24pm

For 200+ years the constitution and associated checks and balances have been promoted as making the USA incorruptible. The President works for the people and doesn’t hold absolute power.

I think we can say the USA is kidding itself. 200+ years of good democracy has evaporated.

Trump is operating outside the law and the USA is a deer caught in the headlights.

Laws are now irrelevant it seems. Trump sees himself above the law.

On a good note, a bunch of teens are in control of the finances.

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adam12 Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 4:28pm

@Indo,
Tempting as it is, I'll pass.
When I read your response my brain started pinging off but I have to switch it off right now.
We could write a novel at each other here on this probably, and when I was younger and immortal I would have been up for that fight, but I am in my mid sixties now and as will probably happen to you one day, when your friends start dropping around you like flies, and your rig starts failing you, mortality hits you like a punch in the face. My days, they matter now, they don't seem so endless anymore.
I dabble in this stuff to keep me entertained sometimes, bit of matey interaction with strangers, bit of argy bargy is fun and stimulating, but really, I just want to live every day now like it's a day at the beach.

I don't want to be sad, I don't want to argue (not much anyway), I don't want to get angry, or fight anymore.
I want to be a tortise now because I spent too much of my life being a hare.
So I'll come and go here.
Now is a time I need to go.

Sorry, it's a good topic, I know you have a lot to say.
But last night I lay in my bed with the BBC World News on the wireless, listening to an American President sanction the International Criminal Court for issuing a warrant for a guy I know is a war criminal and this morning I woke with my t shirt drenched in sweat, it wasn't hot.

When I was in my twenties and ambitious, altruistic and studying these things I once dreamed of standing at the bench of a Court like that, as a counsel, defending humanity. (Probably wearing a cape no doubt)
These days, in particular the Trump social media era, this timeline the world is on, these wars, these people, crazy arguments, this madness I see, rinsing and repeating.
I can deal with it, it's not a mental health issue or anything like that, but I have to turn off sometimes.
My little world is kinda perfect, makes me very happy, the world outside it, not so much, pissing me right off to be honest at the moment.
So I'm going to spend some time in my perfect little world for a while and let all this stuff go and recharge a while.
I'll be back, we can pick this up later if you wish.
Like I said, tempting, but I'm gonna pass.
I am, despite all the unkind things I have said about you, that I stand by, and how much in vehement disagreement I am with you at times, impressed by how far I think you have come compared to the guy I first encountered here.
So make of that what you will.
But today I'm hanging out on my verandah with my little pet wild butcher bird and we're feeding the galahs wild seed watching a replay of today at Pipe and I don't care about much else.
Carry on.

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basesix Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 4:35pm

the good thing about there being so much bullshit online @adam, is that it is.. well.. online. I agree, switch the online to the 'off' position, and alllll that shit that doesn't matter goes away.

online may have the whole world in it, but it is also (for now) just a self-contained bubble in a box.

sounds most healthy @adam. see you in the bubble another time : )

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GuySmiley Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 5:49pm

Good work @adam12, there is only so much banging your head against a brick wall before commonsense takes over!!

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 6:40pm

Headline in AP's daily newsfeed on the US:

"DOGE says it found a dozen people receiving Social Security — at 150 years old"

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 7:26pm

No worries Adam, i dont think anyone can really come up with a proper answer to why Jordan created out of 77% of Palestine with 60% of the population being Palestinian is not a Palestinian state or expected to give some of their land to help create a Palestinian state or even create one in collaboration with Israel.

The reason why this doesn't get much or any attention is because Israel doesn't push it because they have a peace agreement with Jordan and the last thing they want to do is piss off Jordan and create another enemy it's the same deal with Egypt they have a peace deal with and cant afford to rock the boat, totally understandable even controlling the Rafah border crossing was a bit touch and go, plus both have very long borderlines with Israel combined they make up about 80% of Israel's external borders

In Jordan's case it also has to do with not wanting to risk another Black September when in the early 70s the PLO tried to take over the government and started a civil war.

This is also a major reason why Jordan will never take refugees in numbers from Gaza.

It's a similar deal in Egypt Hamas was born from the Muslim Brotherhood that they had big problems with in the past, they dont want to risk bringing in bad apples either and stirring up unrest

Trump of course doesn't give a shit and can rock boats, hence why he suggested Jordan and Egypt take in refugees.

But it's never going to happen so the people in Gaza unlike other place's cant flee as refugees, even early in the war polls said many would like too and you would expect many more would now.

And many are suppose to be refuge's anyway, although would not be classed as refugees anywhere else in the world.

Technically speaking there is ways for people to flee to Egypt and onwards, but the price is said to be between 5K to 10K USD a person just to get out and most dont have that money those that did or have Egyptian passports went long ago.

So unlike any other war like Ukraine or Syria etc generally speaking people cant flee Gaza as refugees and are expected to stay used as political pawns at best and human shields at worse.

For perspective "As of February 2024, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) reported that more than 6.7 million refugees have fled Ukraine"

In Syria as of Dec 2022 the number is said to be exactly the same, but you would expect much higher now with the more recent conflict.

On the ICC trump thing, all these organisations are a joke, same deal with the UN that is made up of 54 Islamic states(almost one third) that along with Russia, Korea etc and other love to target Israel but ignore other real issue's.

I dont think many people these days are taking any of these bodies seriously anymore and seeing them for exactly what they are complete corrupt bias jokes.

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andy-mac Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 7:26pm
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@Indo,
Tempting as it is, I'll pass.
When I read your response my brain started pinging off but I have to switch it off right now.
We could write a novel at each other here on this probably, and when I was younger and immortal I would have been up for that fight, but I am in my mid sixties now and as will probably happen to you one day, when your friends start dropping around you like flies, and your rig starts failing you, mortality hits you like a punch in the face. My days, they matter now, they don't seem so endless anymore.
I dabble in this stuff to keep me entertained sometimes, bit of matey interaction with strangers, bit of argy bargy is fun and stimulating, but really, I just want to live every day now like it's a day at the beach.

I don't want to be sad, I don't want to argue (not much anyway), I don't want to get angry, or fight anymore.
I want to be a tortise now because I spent too much of my life being a hare.
So I'll come and go here.
Now is a time I need to go.

Sorry, it's a good topic, I know you have a lot to say.
But last night I lay in my bed with the BBC World News on the wireless, listening to an American President sanction the International Criminal Court for issuing a warrant for a guy I know is a war criminal and this morning I woke with my t shirt drenched in sweat, it wasn't hot.

When I was in my twenties and ambitious, altruistic and studying these things I once dreamed of standing at the bench of a Court like that, as a counsel, defending humanity. (Probably wearing a cape no doubt)
These days, in particular the Trump social media era, this timeline the world is on, these wars, these people, crazy arguments, this madness I see, rinsing and repeating.
I can deal with it, it's not a mental health issue or anything like that, but I have to turn off sometimes.
My little world is kinda perfect, makes me very happy, the world outside it, not so much, pissing me right off to be honest at the moment.
So I'm going to spend some time in my perfect little world for a while and let all this stuff go and recharge a while.
I'll be back, we can pick this up later if you wish.
Like I said, tempting, but I'm gonna pass.
I am, despite all the unkind things I have said about you, that I stand by, and how much in vehement disagreement I am with you at times, impressed by how far I think you have come compared to the guy I first encountered here.
So make of that what you will.
But today I'm hanging out on my verandah with my little pet wild butcher bird and we're feeding the galahs wild seed watching a replay of today at Pipe and I don't care about much else.
Carry on.

Good one, but will miss your insights.

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southernraw Saturday, 8 Feb 2025 at 7:35pm

Great post @adam12, great reply underneath @basesix, and great attempt at trying to sucker him back in @indo. hahaha! Classic.
The swellnet threads wrapped up in a microcosm.
Enjoy that Pipe recap @adam12. I reckon you spoke for the majority on here in that post.
Cheers.

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For 200+ years the constitution and associated checks and balances have been promoted as making the USA incorruptible. The President works for the people and doesn’t hold absolute power.

I think we can say the USA is kidding itself. 200+ years of good democracy has evaporated.

Trump is operating outside the law and the USA is a deer caught in the headlights.

Laws are now irrelevant it seems. Trump sees himself above the law.

On a good note, a bunch of teens are in control of the finances.

Trump is trying to operate outside the law,
But at this stage the law has imposed 7 or 8 temporary restraining orders , to stop his illegal. , unconstitutional, orders .
The DOJ has conceded on a lot of these, because they were in a no win situation.
The Supreme Court is definitely Trump stacked, but may still rule with the law in different cases. .
The teenagers were kicked out of the Treasury with a temporary restraining order.

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Exxotixjeff wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

For 200+ years the constitution and associated checks and balances have been promoted as making the USA incorruptible. The President works for the people and doesn’t hold absolute power.

I think we can say the USA is kidding itself. 200+ years of good democracy has evaporated.

Trump is operating outside the law and the USA is a deer caught in the headlights.

Laws are now irrelevant it seems. Trump sees himself above the law.

On a good note, a bunch of teens are in control of the finances.

Trump is trying to operate outside the law,
But at this stage the law has imposed 7 or 8 temporary restraining orders , to stop his illegal. , unconstitutional, orders .
The DOJ has conceded on a lot of these, because they were in a no win situation.
The Supreme Court is definitely Trump stacked, but may still rule with the law in different cases. .
The teenagers were kicked out of the Treasury with a temporary restraining order.

Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped.

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sypkan Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 10:39am

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

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burleigh Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 10:44am
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"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

So fucking weird.

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sypkan wrote:

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

So fucking weird.

Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.
Just imagine having very successful Nazis , in
charge of the economy,
Yeah, just imagine.!!!!!!!!

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basesix Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 12:59pm

haha, 'an audit'.. you guys crack me up..
like I say, jeff kennett saved vicco millions in the short term.

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Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
sypkan wrote:

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

So fucking weird.

Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.

He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?

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burleigh wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
sypkan wrote:

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

So fucking weird.

Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.

He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?

Oh yeah gotta believe the community minded , billionaire Nazi ,
Ho ho ho

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adam12 Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 1:26pm

@Roadkill,
I'm just dropping back in to these threads to tell you, all that shit I said to you back when, remember the "little cowboy" shit, all that...
I take it all back.
Respect.
You are right on the money here.
Burls and Syppie are trippin'.
I can't be bothered now but maybe later I might expand on this in detail.
But this "uncovering corruption" bullshit these Muskrats are carrying on about.
The Nerd Reich getting access to Treasury is in fact, the very definition of corruption.
The separation of powers is the bedrock principle of the US Constitution.
Trump does not have power to authorise any of this.
Those powers are Congressional.
Hence the injunctions.
And the demands they return any material they accessed.
Sorry for ever doubting you @Roady.

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Exxotixjeff wrote:
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Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
sypkan wrote:

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

So fucking weird.

Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.

He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?

Oh yeah gotta believe the community minded , billionaire Nazi ,
Ho ho ho

They are literally posting the proof. You’re as cooked as hiccup. Pretty much everything you and him stand for has failed and it’s fucking hilarious

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Exxotixjeff Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 1:47pm
burleigh wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
sypkan wrote:

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

So fucking weird.

Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.

He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?

Oh yeah gotta believe the community minded , billionaire Nazi ,
Ho ho ho

They are literally posting the proof. You’re as cooked as hiccup. Pretty much everything you and him stand for has failed and it’s fucking hilarious

Who’s they ?
So you think Musk would contribute
$250 million to Trumps campaign, so he could help a bit with the economy
And expect nothing back on
this investment, ?
You’ve always been the one eyed fan boy .

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 1:57pm
sypkan wrote:

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

Like here:

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1887893332967243816?mx=2

This is outside Dept of Education, Nerds are inside the building

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 1:58pm

Loving the 'Nerd Reich' moniker jeff

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Roadkill Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 2:12pm
adam12 wrote:

@Roadkill,
I'm just dropping back in to these threads to tell you, all that shit I said to you back when, remember the "little cowboy" shit, all that...
I take it all back.
Respect.
You are right on the money here.
Burls and Syppie are trippin'.
I can't be bothered now but maybe later I might expand on this in detail.
But this "uncovering corruption" bullshit these Muskrats are carrying on about.
The Nerd Reich getting access to Treasury is in fact, the very definition of corruption.
The separation of powers is the bedrock principle of the US Constitution.
Trump does not have power to authorise any of this.
Those powers are Congressional.
Hence the injunctions.
And the demands they return any material they accessed.
Sorry for ever doubting you @Roady.

Thanks for that. Probably didn’t deserve you apologising but I appreciate you did take the time to post.
Cheers

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Exxotixjeff Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 2:23pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

Loving the 'Nerd Reich' moniker jeff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTDENzpW7tw

So that was outside the Treasury Department,
posted on X again, ?
Yeah sure .

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burleigh Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 2:43pm
Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
burleigh wrote:
sypkan wrote:

"Just imagine having very successful business men in charge of the economy. Finding corruption at every turn. Of course they beneficiaries of the corruption want it stopped."

just imagine being part of the cheerleading gimp parade trying to stop an audit into where taxpayers money is going...

weird

So fucking weird.

Very successful businessmen, are usually very successful, because they are ruthless selfish and cunning,
Why would they suddenly become community minded , champions of the people.
That is naive propaganda at best.
And why do you think the judges and crowds protesting in cities are beneficiaries of the corruption.
And only a gimp would think an
unqualified, unelected, billionaire with no security clearance, should be allowed to illegally access everyone’s private , confidential and classified data, at the whim of a wannabe dictator.
Disneyland constitutional law from indignant guesses.

He is finding wasted money EVERYWHERE. Why is it a bad thing?

Oh yeah gotta believe the community minded , billionaire Nazi ,
Ho ho ho

They are literally posting the proof. You’re as cooked as hiccup. Pretty much everything you and him stand for has failed and it’s fucking hilarious

Who’s they ?
So you think Musk would contribute
$250 million to Trumps campaign, so he could help a bit with the economy
And expect nothing back on
this investment, ?
You’ve always been the one eyed fan boy .

He wants to put lefttards back in their box where they belong. Never to be seen again.

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sypkan Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 2:44pm
basesix wrote:

haha, 'an audit'.. you guys crack me up..
like I say, jeff kennett saved vicco millions in the short term.

yep

and dan andrews really fixed that short term 'fix' didn't he?

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basesix Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 2:48pm

nope.
my point is, jeff's money fixing left thousands of people deinstitutionalised and without support, decades of ramifications. and the money's not there anyway. always back people - you'll win every time.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 3:01pm

Jeff Kennett went further down the privatisation sewer than pretty much any other neoconservative politician - even more than Thatcher - banks, power generation, power retailing (SEC), water, sewage, coal and gas resources and great slabs of public infrastructure and functions via his smoke and mirrors compulsory competitive tendering regime for all state government departments as well as all LGAs. The Nightmare on Spring Street!

If you want to see debt bigger than anyone PM or state premier look no further than one Henry Bolte, old mud guts spent vast sums on (drum roll) public infrastructure … just like Dan Andrews but Bolte had the backing of the Murdochs

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adam12 Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 3:27pm

@Burls, @Sypiie,
When Albo gives Clive Palmer the keys to the tax office, and every other government department, and he starts shutting them down, and a bunch of his blokes start going through your financials, and stopping centerlink payments, and sacking essential public servants and cancelling the PBS and sacking all the ASIO agents and cancelling federal education spending and grants to farmers and small businesses and appoints Kyle Sandilands to Defence Chief, and ...I could go on,
can't wait for your posts on that....
and Clive went to the upcoming election victory if Albo won and got up after Albo's speech and gave one of his own that ended with a Seig Heil, and another one in case you missed it, and everyone said "No, you're confused, Clive's actually got a heart", but the only one who didn't say it wasn't a fascist salute was Clive, and Clive was addicted to ketamine, and was unqualified, unvetted, unelected, unauthorised and Albo had no power to let him do it...

You think this is a culture war?
A reality show?
Fkn life and death boys.
For millions, us here too.
I'll say it again, you are watching a 249 year old democracy, the world's "greatest" become a fascist basket case in record time, not just watching but cheering.
You will rue the day, one day.
Just my opinion.

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thermalben Sunday, 9 Feb 2025 at 3:35pm

Where is Clive these days? Last I heard - March 2023 - he was suing Australia (!) for $300 billion, with the help of Christian Porter (!).

"Clive Palmer’s Singapore-based company Zeph Investments is suing Australia for $296bn, enlisting the help of former attorney general Christian Porter in a landmark case arguing a breach of the Asean free trade deal."

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/30/clive-palmer-chri...

And wasn't that after he'd tried to use Australia or maybe the states for something else? I forget... too much crazy these days.

But hey! Aussie, Aussie, Aussie etc