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flollo wrote:Optimist wrote:I’m interested in asking the brains trust who should run the new Gaza.
Hamas obviously is out as they didn’t go too well
Iran ?….or yep that would be back to square one.
United Arab Emirates?….silence there…but they might pick it up.
Egypt?….nope…they don’t like them…but maybe
Jordan?…they don’t like them either….but maybe a consortium with someone.
United Nations?….maybe….but they are full of advice and that’s about all.
USA?….if there’s nobody else a possibility hence the bluff.
Israel….never….they are sick of policing and they have a thing about who’s land belongs to who and Gaza is not a part of Palestine…..Gaza is Philistia.
So, who would be the best to rebuild a new democratic and happy world for the next generation of Gazans.
Proper thoughtful answers and ideas would be nice.Easy. Give full independence to Palestine. Let them elect their own government. And Israel to pay war reparations for the destruction and death they created.
Yep.
And , yes, I hear you Adam.
fitzroy-21 wrote:It's absolute gold what is going on in the USA, what DOGE is uncovering with the money laundering agency USAID. US Taxpayers money.
- $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes
- $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon
- $20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq
- Sending Ukranians to Paris Fashion Week
- $1.5 million for DEI in Serbia
- $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland
- $47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia
- $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru
- $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala
- $6 million for tourism in Egypt
- $1 million to help disabled people in Tajikistan become climate leaders
- $15 million for 'contraceptives and condoms’ in Taliban-Controlled AfghanistanLook up the addresses of entities receiving millions of dollars on Google maps and you’ll find shacks or empty land.
We need something like this here in AUS.
Just think of all that money and trillions more that should rightfully be going to Musk and his billionaire oligarch buddies, who bought the election and the country for Trump and Putin,
and now are looking for their payback.
Seriously who needs an education department or a medical insurance like every other developed country in the world has or a social security system or money for natural disasters,?
Surely this is all waste and should be money going to the oligarchs , who rightfully deserve it’
Exxotixjeff wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:It's absolute gold what is going on in the USA, what DOGE is uncovering with the money laundering agency USAID. US Taxpayers money.
- $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes
- $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon
- $20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq
- Sending Ukranians to Paris Fashion Week
- $1.5 million for DEI in Serbia
- $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland
- $47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia
- $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru
- $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala
- $6 million for tourism in Egypt
- $1 million to help disabled people in Tajikistan become climate leaders
- $15 million for 'contraceptives and condoms’ in Taliban-Controlled AfghanistanLook up the addresses of entities receiving millions of dollars on Google maps and you’ll find shacks or empty land.
We need something like this here in AUS.
Just think of all that money and trillions more that should rightfully be going to Musk and his billionaire oligarch buddies, who bought the election and the country for Trump and Putin,
and now are looking for their payback.
Seriously who needs an education department or a medical insurance like every other developed country in the world has or a social security system or money for natural disasters,?
Surely this is all waste and should be money going to the oligarchs , who rightfully deserve it’
Oh dear.
Palestine is Israel so that answer didn’t make sense…..a Gaza solution is what the question is about.
I probably might have suggested USA 1.0 or the UN help once, @Opti, but the appropriate course of action would be to ask some of the real stakeholders and those who's hope for the future has been set back 50 years. This Optimistic promo now serves as an elegy:
obviously have to coordinate off-campus.
Gotta laugh at the lefttard hiccup. Wrong about Covid, wrong about the voice, wrong about trump and now posting fake twitter posts. Poor bloke.
Base 6 your still in a Palestinian settled section of Israel.
The question is about Gaza….who should run Gaza. They need outside leadership.
Fitzroy and Burlin are obviously looking forward to an illegal takeover and hacking of our Treasury Department and everything else,
Oh well you have got to cheer for one side or another
Yay for the billionaires, who wouldn’t piss on naive maggats if they were on fire.
Optimist wrote:Base 6 your still in a Palestinian settled section of Israel.
The question is about Gaza….who should run Gaza. They need outside leadership.
They've had outside leadership. Thousands of bombs and bullets raining on them from The Israeli government who confine them within a prison. Like shooting fish in a barrel opti!
burleigh wrote:Gotta laugh at the lefttard hiccup. Wrong about Covid, wrong about the voice, wrong about trump and now posting fake twitter posts. Poor bloke.
I think Burlins wrong about not moving to North Korea, when he had the opportunity,
He would have felt so much better with a real strong man to admire,
Instead of this tired old wannabe.
fitzroy-21 wrote:It's absolute gold what is going on in the USA, what DOGE is uncovering with the money laundering agency USAID. US Taxpayers money.
- $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes
- $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon
- $20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq
- Sending Ukranians to Paris Fashion Week
- $1.5 million for DEI in Serbia
- $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland
- $47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia
- $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru
- $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala
- $6 million for tourism in Egypt
- $1 million to help disabled people in Tajikistan become climate leaders
- $15 million for 'contraceptives and condoms’ in Taliban-Controlled AfghanistanLook up the addresses of entities receiving millions of dollars on Google maps and you’ll find shacks or empty land.
We need something like this here in AUS.
Much prefer Japanese attempts at spreading cultural influence through children's shows
flollo wrote:Yes, 100%. It’s unbelievable. We need it here in Aus. Stuff I personally witnessed over the years is just shocking.
Agree, saw some absolutely incredible waste in building refits in the big skyscrapers.
flollo wrote:Optimist wrote:I’m interested in asking the brains trust who should run the new Gaza.
Hamas obviously is out as they didn’t go too well
Iran ?….or yep that would be back to square one.
United Arab Emirates?….silence there…but they might pick it up.
Egypt?….nope…they don’t like them…but maybe
Jordan?…they don’t like them either….but maybe a consortium with someone.
United Nations?….maybe….but they are full of advice and that’s about all.
USA?….if there’s nobody else a possibility hence the bluff.
Israel….never….they are sick of policing and they have a thing about who’s land belongs to who and Gaza is not a part of Palestine…..Gaza is Philistia.
So, who would be the best to rebuild a new democratic and happy world for the next generation of Gazans.
Proper thoughtful answers and ideas would be nice.Easy. Give full independence to Palestine. Let them elect their own government. And Israel to pay war reparations for the destruction and death they created.
Reckon the good ol USA should front some/ most of the bill. Israel could not have done shit without the full backing and support of the USA.
Fark without the USA's support for Zionism we probably would have had a Palestine State living peacefully with the State of Israel. They would have been forced to make peace.
AIPAC have a lot to answer for.
basesix wrote:there's a lot of shoulder-chip white males in the western world atm @old-dog (rw boomers still alive + battle-scarred x-geners), who are dark on the world. divorced blokes, failed business owners, retrenched workers, reformed alkys, couldabeenacontender-ers.. and if you don't have a dog to kick, or don't have the ability to say reactionary/controversial things lucidly, trump is a gift. just say 'yay trump' or 'maga'; minimal output, max effect: hate on all the 'thems', be part of a tribe, blame the world.. with just a short acronym. must feel like a real freedom, and take a weight off the shoulders for a minute or two. I'm happy for them. add a few million christian zealots and a few million from misogynistic cultures, and you can 'shake things up' by bullying the whole word through expansionist and outrageous hyperbole to distract from the unfolding internal disasters that come with incompetence, narcissism, sociopathy - all the reap-what-you-sow symptoms of cult-of-personality populism politics.
Inspiring words there B6, but completely wrong.
It is wrong because it was not the boomers or GenX white males that delivered Trump to the White House.
It was the young men, and ethnic young men, and a reasonable proportion of women, who did so.
It was the young men who were locked out of developing their lives during the early adult stages by policies that marginalised them. I pointed this out repeatedly after the US election when you were all losing your minds, I pointed it out with full links! It's back there in the thread.
I've also been pointing out the alienation and withdrawal from society of young men in the 'Interesting Stuff' thread for a couple of years - again the links are there. No particular race - it's the Otaku in Japan, or the young white guys on computers, or the up and coming tech bros, or the new young conservative school leavers of all colours.
How come you guys just don't see it? It was widely reported upon as a distinct and new trend. You are looking for scapegoats you've been programmed to see as the cause for all that is bad, not those who enabled this shift in political power in the US. Are you that ideologically blind that you can't see reality?
Anyway, they spoke their mind, Trump is in, and now all this happens.
oh, I was only referring to those who Trump's tenure will not serve well in any way, shape or form, but voted aye @VJ. There's even more who voted yes because it will serve them very well. I read all your alienation stuff with interest.
(ps. got any cool insights into that near miss asteroid we're passing in a few years?)
That’s the sad thing andy-mac. The US could have sorted this shit so long ago. Stop the funds and make Israel heal. The two state solution could have been realised.
Another data point: now woke is gone and patriotism back, US Army is having no trouble recruiting - wonder if this will change when they realise they get to be Team America Gaza Police?
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/us-army-hits-record-15-year-rec...
adam12 wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:adam12 wrote:@Indo,
I don't need to save face and yes I did read it again, as would have been obvious to any idiot when I said "I had forgotten about his Spanish roots"
Ashkenazi Jews are from Europe, Shephardic Jews are from Spain.
The history and bloodlines of the Jews fleeing Judea is contended.
You should know that from your deep diving, even if it's in the shallow end of the pool.
But it is really not a topic I wish to debate with an ignorant google history taught genocide simp zealot of a criminal State who cheerleads death of innocent civilians and fan charts Trump's fucking idiocy on SN like some Swiftie.
You want to claim he's a Hebrew, knock yourself out.
You want to say I'm an idiot, knock yourself out.
It was an "aside" to begin with. I couldn't give a fuck if he's Moses incarnate to be honest.I said he has no Hebrew DNA.
The article by implication states as much.
He has no Hebrew DNA. He and you are clutching at straws with the disputed history.
He's a European Pole born in Israel, his parents name was Mileikowsky.
You said "Who knows what his original surname was"
Er, him, his parents and anyone who googled it.
Not you apparently.
His father's name was Nathan.
Netanyahu is a Hebrew interpretation of it.
He changed his name from a Polish one to a Hebrew one.
Not because of pronunciation difficulties or any other bullshit excuse they like to use.
I actually don't think it's an unreasonable thing for a Jewish Israeli to do, a statement of their commitment to the Zionist ideal, solidarity.
And so they don't sound like settlers.
And it might even surprise you to know that I would have no problem with the State of Israel if they were a law abiding State, it's not their existence that is a problem to me, it's their behavior.
Of all the people on the planet who should have compassion and understanding of oppressed people with the right to a homeland it is the Jews. Many, many Jews, including in Israel feel that way.
There are rules of war, even an insurgent one.
There is International Law, or maybe after today, there was.
Why are the people subject a few short generations ago to the worst crimes against humanity of the 20th century repeating those same crimes now?
Why do they ignore the rules set up in honour of the victims of the holocaust?
If they have to become what they despised to achieve their goals then what does that make them?
Oct 7 was a dreadful event, a war crime and rightly recognised as such by the ICC.
But what they have done, what they plan to do.
Genocide.
Like the Nazis.
I'll never understand that.
They could have lived in peace once the State was established, they just had to give a fuck about the people that were there, recognise they were there, accommodate their needs, including the need for human dignity, a safe home, basic needs, a homeland, even a shared one.
Fuck it, too late now.
Bomb fuck out of it, kill thousands with nothing to do with Hamas or Oct 7.
And now just level it, get rid of them (don't be shocked if they end up in Indonesia either just quietly, the Arab States won't take them) and then take it.
Like it's easy.
Plenty of well drilled, freshly uniformed, well armed with sophisticated seized Israeli weapons Al Quassam battalions on show at the hostage takeovers. Plenty of guns and money around to fight still,
Enemies growing daily.
The US haven't done well with boots on the ground in the ME.
They are just going to waltz in?Anyway, we shall see.
And he's an Israeli Pole not a Hebrew.
Go back far enough and we are all Africans.
Further and we are all came from the same monkey.Even the Jews of Spain and Europe.
Been shit chatting with you again @Indo.
Let's do it again, later rather than sooner.Ha ha now denying Jewish Diaspora, no its not debatable at all.
I never picked you or a conspiracy theory nutter.
Yes it is debated, there's plenty of differing views, but a debate I don't give a fuck about.
But you do.
Why?
You aren't a Jew.
What you are is a cunt that looks for any vehicle you can find to be a cunt.
Any excuse you can to kick down, hate, express your unfounded sense of superiority.
The Palestinians are just another one, your latest one.
I've watched you do it on these pages for years.
You do it to FNP, Muslims, people with progressive views, any victim you can find.
All from the comfort of the keys.
Anyone you can kick.
Here's the truth @Indo, you're not very bright. Nothing wrong with that.
Google bright is ok, yet you claim grand master expertise in things you never studied properly, about people and places you've never been and don't know, all with a sense of condescension and superiority, (and you're not a fucken Jew).
It's not the Jews you admire, it's the Zionist cunts you align with, and why?
You only see the suffering on one side, the humans on the other side you just denigrate, discard, victimise. And anyone who shows compassion or argues about the injustice you write off as a terrorist simp.
You're not Jewish. Until this little hate bus arrived you wouldn't have probably any interest in Jewish history or Israel and Palestine or Bibi's DNA or any of it.
You were busy back then hating our indigenous brothers and sisters.
Here's a real Jew, a Torah Jew, see what he says about it.
https://x.com/voiceofrabbis/status/1887226330648838370
You identify as a conservative but that's just another way you can unleash the cunt within.
I don't think you understand the meaning of conservatism.
You back Dutton and Trump.
Radical right wing reactionaries.
Nothing conservative about either of them.
Just right wing punch down artist cunts.
That's the attraction.
Like Bibi.
So do us all a favor and stop with the google Jewish history lessons, we've got the internet, you don't seem to be capable of comprehending the reading objectively anyway, one sided cognition is a common racist cunt trait, and try to wind back the cuntiness and have some compassion for people.
Or just fuck off.Now I apologise for my language and tone in this post but I'm fucken sick of you.
I wonder if anyone else here feels the same.
Maybe it's me that needs to fuck off.
I just don't like being around people like you.
No Adam Jewish diaspora is not debatable it happened it's well recorded history also supported by archeology and DNA studies, even Rome acknowledges it happened.
The only people that dont are those that have certain religious/social/political agendas , or just fringes nutters in the West like you.
In regard to your nonsense in your last post that Israel could exist in peace, dude this is the most naive bullshit ever, you only have to look at other places in the middle east to see how true ethnic cleansing of Jews and Christians has happened by Muslims and how Sunni & Shia fight each other, fuck look at Syria about 20 different groups all in for a fight, these Islamist groups fuck up and destroy country after country in the middle eaat, it's why Egypt and Jordan wont allow any refugees from Gaza they fear bringing in radicalization in their countries.
Even before 1948 Arabs were attacking Jews and trying to prevent the Jews getting any land/state/country they even created the Arab league in 1945 and attacked Israel on the day it was re born.
And of course once lost they ALWAYS play victim, it's a never ending cycle, start a war, lose, play victim, start a war, lose play victim.
The reality is all religions suck but Islam is the worst of the main ones, and this is all about Islam, this land became under Islamic control when the Turkish Ottoman empire took over the land, so in Islamist eyes it must be returned to Islamic control.
Its why Iran 1,000km away and Houthis want to destroy Israel and why Iran fund these terrorist groups.
It's why Gaza or the West bank weren't real issues or didn't provide Palestinian stares when Jordan and Egypt controlled them, or why Jordan created out of 77% of Palestine with over 60% of the population being Palestinian is never talked about, when it's the obvious Palestinian state.(ruled by a minority group)
But this isn't about a Palestinian state its about destroying a Jewish one, Hamas and other group's make no secret about this, even after this so called ceasefire they have said how they will try to do 7th October again and again.
The problem is you don't actually know the history of the area, or actually follow the news or understand wars, you want everyone to think your a some elite academic that knows everything no matter the topic and you always know better than those that are way way smarter and more successful than you be it Trump, Elon, Joe Rogan etc (Yes Joe Rogan is far smarter than you)
It's very obvious you are extremely uneducated on this topic, to the point you dont even understand simple terms like Sephardic Jew or just denying basic facts like jewish diaspora.
In regard to why i support our Israel, Israeli's and the Jewish people who are constantly under attack from Jihadist groups and why i became more interested after 7th October that should be obvious, its the same reason the majority support Israel.
But yes i was honestly shocked by the reaction's of people here and the tripe they quickly spread, which i wont put a label on.
BTW. Your X link is from a fringe Jewish sect of less than 1,000 worldwide called Neturei Karta, they believe Jews can not return to the land until the messiah returns or some garbage.
No surprise you didn't stick to staying away from these forums.
oh nice, popcorn Thursday : )
@indo wrote 'Islam is the worst religion of all'.
Compared to other religions and era's?
I reckon they're all pretty crook and have shameful pasts and presents.
Sounds like opinion rather than learned wisdom to me.
only of 'the main ones' @sr.
I'm sure he'd concur some fucked up things go on at them appalachian snake-handling churches.
Islam is not the worst of all religions. The hard right extremist nutters of Islam are the worst.
Changing the subject back to reality again,
I heard that Musk called off the
Lexus Pipeline Pro , mid heat
Because one of his teenybopper pill poppers,
thought there might be some money wastage , which could be going to the oligarchs.
Or is this more right wing propaganda ?
southernraw wrote:@indo wrote 'Islam is the worst religion of all'.
Compared to other religions and era's?
I reckon they're all pretty crook and have shameful pasts and presents.
Sounds like opinion rather than learned wisdom to me.
Right now in history is the only thing that's relevant.
Yeah sure there is violence or problems between or within Christians, Jews, Buddhist, Hindus.
But it isn't comparable to Islam, when i jump on a flight and they wont let me take liquids over 100mls it's not because of Hindus or Buddhist, it's because of 9/11 and other islamic/jihadist group bombings.
If you google top terrorist group's you will see a very clear pattern, you will be lucky to find a non Islamic group.
While it happens refugees fleeing persecution are fairly rare from other religious groups, but a shit load of refugees flee from Islamic countries because they turned their back on Islam or are of another religion or gay etc
Roadkill wrote:Fitzroy, I can’t find a source for all the above?
Care to put up the source?
Do you live under a rock Dill?
Just about every MSM in USA.
Regular media releases by white house press secretary karoline leavitt.
Exxotixjeff wrote:fitzroy-21 wrote:It's absolute gold what is going on in the USA, what DOGE is uncovering with the money laundering agency USAID. US Taxpayers money.
- $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes
- $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon
- $20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq
- Sending Ukranians to Paris Fashion Week
- $1.5 million for DEI in Serbia
- $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland
- $47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia
- $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru
- $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala
- $6 million for tourism in Egypt
- $1 million to help disabled people in Tajikistan become climate leaders
- $15 million for 'contraceptives and condoms’ in Taliban-Controlled AfghanistanLook up the addresses of entities receiving millions of dollars on Google maps and you’ll find shacks or empty land.
We need something like this here in AUS.
Just think of all that money and trillions more that should rightfully be going to Musk and his billionaire oligarch buddies, who bought the election and the country for Trump and Putin,
and now are looking for their payback.
Seriously who needs an education department or a medical insurance like every other developed country in the world has or a social security system or money for natural disasters,?
Surely this is all waste and should be money going to the oligarchs , who rightfully deserve it’
Jeffy, can you honestly not see the forest through the trees with all the slush funding money laundering of these small figures of one department? This is just a tiny miniscule of what will be uncovered.
All that tax payers money going to mythical organisations, whilst their own people, the tax payers, get FA. What did the Californians get from their recent fires? The last two or more hurricanes that devastated areas in the GoM. Need I go on? How are those communities faring with all the Gov relief from their tax paying dollars? You can't see the stupidity and ridiculousness of those tax dollars going to the "organisations" and "countries" I pointed out above, compared to the little relief from disasters to their own people??
Actually don't answer that, we already know your answer. Nothing to see here......
indo-dreaming wrote:southernraw wrote:@indo wrote 'Islam is the worst religion of all'.
Compared to other religions and era's?
I reckon they're all pretty crook and have shameful pasts and presents.
Sounds like opinion rather than learned wisdom to me.Right now in history is the only thing that's relevant.
Yeah sure there is violence or problems between or within Christians, Jews, Buddhist, Hindus.
But it isn't comparable to Islam, when i jump on a flight and they wont let me take liquids over 100mls it's not because of Hindus or Buddhist, it's because of 9/11 and other islamic/jihadist group bombings.
If you google top terrorist group's you will see a very clear pattern, you will be lucky to find a non Islamic group.
While it happens refugees fleeing persecution are fairly rare from other religious groups, but a shit load of refugees flee from Islamic countries because they turned their back on Islam or are of another religion or gay etc
It's not because of 9/11 you can't take liquids onboard @indo, it's because of the US and Western reaction to it.
But all good, point taken.
Was probably pushing the semantics too much on what you wrote.
Not the anti Semitics though!!
@ Indo insisted that Trump’s one liner about wanting to be a dictator on day one, was just a joke, and anyone who took it seriously, were actually causing trouble for Trump and his assainations , and were basically dumb ass .
Now that Trump has tried twice to freeze the government funding of everything, illegaly
Tried to take birth rights citizenship out of the constitution illegally ,
Let Musk takeover the Treasury and hack into everyones private data , illegally
Made enemies of Americas allies in less than 3 weeks
WTF ??
Geez @indo must hate going to Indo, ya know the country with the largest Muslim population on earth.
Jesus wept....
When did Islam really start to become radical....?
Mainly when Arab nationals were sidelined for years and had there deals betrayed by west.
Spent time in East Timor, a lot of the Fretlin resistance were Catholic and were classed as extremists.
Spanish inquisition were good ol Christains. ..
Cause and effect mate.
Our Jewish and Christian Zionist mates are a responsible for a lot more killings of Muslims than the other way around.
Anyway carry on with ya deep diving research.....
Why don’t all the jewish people living in Israel relocate ? Who would want to be surrounded by neighbours that want you dead ? If it’s good enough for the people of Gaza to be relocated , why not relocate all the jews ? Then the likelihood of this happening further down the track would be zero . Give them lovely houses with bigly views , rainbows and unicorns with fairies in the garden . I can’t understand why Trump hasn’t come up with this plan , kills 2 birds with 1 stone .
people dismissing this usaid thing are totally missing the point
I can't put it any better than my little young democrat friend, so I'll post it again...
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1887037017361420749
not only is she spot on with this issue. but also the frustration many feel with the democrat party more widely...
Impeachment to be launched, related to Gaza claims:
https://wltreport.com/2025/02/05/dastardly-deeds-done-house-democrat-say...
Supafreak wrote:Why don’t all the jewish people living in Israel relocate ? Who would want to be surrounded by neighbours that want you dead ? If it’s good enough for the people of Gaza to be relocated , why not relocate all the jews ? Then the likelihood of this happening further down the track would be zero . Give them lovely houses with bigly views , rainbows and unicorns with fairies in the garden . I can’t understand why Trump hasn’t come up with this plan , kills 2 birds with 1 stone .
The State of Israel was a pretty dumb idea. In the middle of the modern Arab world. Wonder what could go wrong. Especially with endless funding. Death death death death death.
even politico thinks it's a loser fight to take on...
that's politico - who in the last 24 hours have basically been exposed as being on the dems machine government teat - one of the staunchest anti- trump propaganda outlets out there...
"...Billionaire Elon Musk’s campaign to dismantle the federal bureaucracy piece by piece at Trump’s behest, starting with the U.S. Agency for International Development, lit a fire under many Democratic lawmakers — several of whom rallied Monday outside USAID headquarters.
But relaunching the resistance to defend one of the least popular corners of the federal budget could be a monster miscalculation — and some prominent Democrats told me they have serious strategic reservations about how their party is fighting back.
When I asked veteran strategist David Axelrod whether Democrats were “walking into a trap” on defending foreign aid, he literally finished my sentence.
“My heart is with the people out on the street outside USAID, but my head tells me: ‘Man, Trump will be well satisfied to have this fight,’” he said. “When you talk about cuts, the first thing people say is: Cut foreign aid.”
Rahm Emanuel — the former House leader, Chicago mayor and diplomat — told me much the same: “You don’t fight every fight. You don’t swing at every pitch. And my view is — while I care about the USAID as a former ambassador — that’s not the hill I’m going to die on,” he said.
Trump’s orbit, meanwhile, couldn’t be happier seeing Democratic lawmakers lined up on a downtown Washington sidewalk Monday — in their view, wasting political capital defending an agency that they believe the public doesn’t give a rip about. Musk himself spent the following 24 hours posting videos of Democrats protesting the move.
“The federal bureaucracy is very unpopular. … It’s a pretty widely held, majority position — if you poll it, people think the government is wasting money. And, very simply, that’s the battle that we’re fighting,” one senior Trump administration official told me Tuesday. “The Democrats are now taking the opposite position: ‘Everything’s perfect.’ ‘Nothing to look at here.’ ‘No money is wasted.’ ‘All your tax dollars are being spent well.’”
“Not a very politically tenable position,” the person added...
...What’s more, Democrats aren’t reading the room: Trump’s team believes his “America First” stance has resonated beyond his own base, and they’re also acutely aware that there’s a large, online conspiratorial contingency surrounding the agency. In short, they’re not sorry about targeting foreign aid, and they’re reveling in the outrage.
“My message to my Democratic friends and to the tofu-eating wokerati at USAID is, ‘I hear your question, but you need to call somebody who cares,’” Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) told reporters this week...
...Democrats’ messaging problem goes beyond USAID, however. They’ve raised alarms about Trump and Musk firing inspectors general, purging FBI officials who probed Trump and offering to buy out thousands more federal workers. Only a fraction of Americans have a personal connection to any of it.
The situation, Axelrod said, reflects the Democratic Party’s broader existential crisis. How, he has been asking himself lately, “did the party of working people become a party of elite institutions?”
“Part of the problem for the Democratic Party is that it has become a stalwart defender of institutions at a time when people are enraged at institutions,” Axelrod said. “And they become — in the minds of a lot of voters — an elite party, and to a lot of folks who are trying to scuffle out there and get along, this will seem like an elite passion.”..."
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/02/04/democrats-foreign-aid-...
White house press secretary Leavitt to Politico:
DOGE is at Medicare/Medicaid
https://www.westernjournal.com/elon-musks-doge-moves-wasteful-spending-m...
Democrats introduce anti-DOGE act:
https://noqreport.com/democrats-will-introduce-stop-the-steal-act-to-tar...
seeds wrote:The State of Israel was a pretty dumb idea. In the middle of the modern Arab world. Wonder what could go wrong. Especially with endless funding. Death death death death death.
There was one bloke who suggested Madagascar...
Good luck, live in peace
andy-mac wrote:When did Islam really start to become radical....?
Mainly when Arab nationals were sidelined for years and had there deals betrayed by west.
Spent time in East Timor, a lot of the Fretlin resistance were Catholic and were classed as extremists.
Spanish inquisition were good ol Christains. ..Cause and effect mate.
Our Jewish and Christian Zionist mates are a responsible for a lot more killings of Muslims than the other way around.Anyway carry on with ya deep diving research.....
Exactly. Clarified my initial comment!
Cheers @andymac.
And great post following by @supa.
Ausseis 5/127. Starky just took Desilvas wicket..
Agreed @exoticjeff. Trump is either trying to appear as a dictator, or is actually actiing like one. I'm still not sure which yet and i think the line is getting pretty blurred day by day.
What is politico? And why is it funded by USAID? What is USAID? Sounds self explanatory but please explain. Is Trump try quieten dissenting media? Genuine questions.
velocityjohnno wrote:seeds wrote:The State of Israel was a pretty dumb idea. In the middle of the modern Arab world. Wonder what could go wrong. Especially with endless funding. Death death death death death.
There was one bloke who suggested Madagascar...
Haha he may have been onto something.
yeh, it's them special rocks, blessed seas, providential dirt and olive groves of destiny @seeds.. everyone wants 'em.
Ha. Olive groves of destiny. My mind went straight to the gutter reading that.
velocityjohnno wrote:White house press secretary Leavitt to Politico:
it's like the team at politico are just saying...
(to their faithfuls)
don't do it!
don't look over there!
no!
no!!
NOO!!!
the biden donations bit isn't surprising
at all...
but seriously!?!!
USaid to politico?
WTF is that about?
the 80's 90's old school famine charities stalwarts be turning in their graves...
sypkan wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:White house press secretary Leavitt to Politico:
it's like the team at politico are just saying...
(to their faithfuls)
don't do it!
don't look over there!
no!
no!!
NOO!!!
the biden donations bit isn't surprising
at all...
but seriously!?!!
USaid to politico?
WTF is that about?
the 80's 90's old school famine charities stalwarts be turning in their graves...
Yes this is big one. I saw it somewhere else earlier. Throws massive shade on what appears to be a good quality publication.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank