The Necessity of Reparation for Historic Injustices

bluediamond started the topic in

Sunday, 25 Jul 2021 at 1:26pm

Uni assignment i did a few years ago. This is my take on things. I'm sure this will ruffle many feathers. I hope so.
Love Blue Diamond x

Introduction – Compensatory Justice
Disparities between the standards of living of humans on this planet have long been a part of our history on this planet. From the wealthy nations of the West to the developing and undeveloped nations on this globe, the diversity in the quality of life when viewed from a moral standpoint are without a doubt grossly unfair.
In this paper I will look at why historic injustices do require some form of reparation. I take a strong stance that we are more obliged to solve current injustices than to provide reparation for every act of injustice in the past. In doing this I will first investigate the historic injustice of the Aboriginal people of Australia and I will look at the argument that they are entitled to some form of reparation and why.
I will incoroporate some interesting views from Jeremy Waldron, Robert Nozick and others which will help me slowly build to my conclusion that reparation should be in the form of Non Indigenous Australians surrendering some of our priveleges as a form of reparation.

Historic Injustices to Indigenous Australians:
Australia the continent was well inhabited for many years long before white settlement. It is commonly known that in 1788 Australia was colonised as a country under the rule of the British Empire, with total contempt for the fact that it was already inhabited by a native indigenous race of people.
The way the original inhabitants have been treated, including forced assimilation, execution, stolen families and not even allowed to be recognised as citizens for a large part of white Australia’s history are also well known facts. (Poole, 1999,pp114-142)
There exists now a situation where there is a large divide between Aboriginal and non Aboriginal Australian’s that can be traced back to the moment Australia was invaded by English settlers and the brutal and unfair treatment that has followed.
So at this point now, in 2013 what is the just and fair way to make amends for past actions?
I would argue that a moderate to large amount of reparation is overdue for this nation of people, the Aboriginal people. But there are many challenges to this view point especially that of how much reparation, and what sort of compensation.

Past injustices or present suffering?
One of the questions raised in an issue like this is whether it is better to provide compensation or reparation for past deeds, which have already been done in a previous generation and cannot be changed, or whether it is better to now provide assistance to those who are suffering in their current situations and consider that as a form of moral duty.
To understand this we need to delve a little deeper into this issue and hear some differing viewpoints.
Firstly we need to understand what the best way to provide reparation. How do we judge what is the best way of giving back and how much? Jeremy Waldron states “The historic record has a fragility that consists, …in the sheer contingency of what happened in the past” (Waldron,1992,p5 )
This is saying that we can’t trace every single injustice back to the original act therefore reparation for every act would be almost impossible because it would ultimately be guess work.
In this statement he has an objection from Robert Nozick who believes it is in fact possible to address this problem by “changing the present so that it resembles how the past would have looked had the injustice not taken place” (McKenzie, 2013)
This would be a way to ultimately provide maximum reparation, but is it the correct approach? I believe this is a fairly radical approach, although it does have some merits in the fact it would be working in a positive way for indigenous people, I don’t think it is entirely the right way to deal with these issues but it is on the right track.
Waldron argues that it is based on too many unknowns. “The status of counterfactual reasoning about the exercising of human reasoning of human freedom is unclear”(Waldron 1993,p10)
Which leaves the question somewhat open about the sort of reparation that is required, but provides one clear answer to the key question. Both agree that yes, reparation to some extent is required. But how much and in what form?
Another philosopher who leans more towards Waldron’s views is Kymlicka. He is somewhat more straightforward in his assessment that property rights in particular for Aboriginals would create “massive unfairness” and also he maintains the argument “Aboriginal rights must be grounded in concerns about equality and contemporary disadvantage. (McKenzie, 2013) I agree with both these views but I don’t think they provide any active solutions.

The Solution?
So if its not handing back all of Australia’s land to the original inhabitants that is the most appropriate way to deal with past injustices, then what is?
I look at the current country I grew up in, as a white Australian. I ask myself why I never had Aboriginal friends growing up, no understanding of Aboriginal culture and why my basic understanding of Indigenous Australians is mostly 200 years old. I look at our flag, a symbol of a nation that stole a country from its original inhabitants, with no recognition of the Indigenous people at all on it. I see that Australia considered Indigenous people as less than people until only 40 years ago and I see the way that Indigenous Australians live a completely separate life to the way of life I know as an Australian. I see that the only indigenous politician I am aware of is a former Olympian and it is because of this fact of her sporting status that I know this. I see no collective power or representation of Indigenous Australians and I see non Indigenous Australians,( a culture built on a history of stealing a land and mistreating its people) still taking, taking as much out of this land as they can, with little to no regard of sharing or giving to the original inhabitants. I see a government that says lots of words about ‘closing the gap’ and bringing the living standards of non- indigenous and indigenous Australians closer together, but apart from nice words, there is no conviction, no follow through, just assimilation , and all that still remains are injustices.
As stated by Sparrow, “Continuity gives rise to responsibility on part of present generations of Australians for our history”.(McKenzie,2013). Although deeds happened in the past beyond our control, what we do now to either ignore, or rectify these issues will reflect on us in history. So if we choose to do nothing, we are contributing to the history of the mistreatment of non- indigenous Australians. And this is simply unacceptable in my opinion.

Conclusion
So what is fair? I believe that the way forward is a surrendering of some of our privileges as non- indigenous Australians. The simple fact is it was morally wrong without a doubt what has happened in the past. And it is also morally wrong without a doubt to ignore these facts and not offer some form of reparation in the present. But how much?
I think that going back to Robert Nozick’s argument is a start. I think Nozick is wrong to make the present resemble the past in every aspect. But I do think that it would be reasonable to restore some aspects of the way things should be. The things that happened in the past were out of our control and we can’t go back to changing the way things were. But we could change the way things are.
For some examples. Why not give at least 50% of political power to indigenous people? It surely would be a fair thing to do considering this is their country. Media control. 50 percent. Industry. Realestate. The list goes on. Why do we not acknowledge the indigenous people on our flag, or better still use their flag? Why is Australia still a part of the Commonwealth when it serves little purpose to any of us and serves as a constant reminder to Indigenous Australians that they are still controlled by the original invaders. These to me are fairly simple reparations that would have minimal impact on Australia as a whole. Perhaps, it would alter the way we live but I think it is our responsibility, morally to forfeit some of our privileges for the greater good. Basically a little bit goes a long way.
In closing, it is a fact that a huge injustice occurred to the Indigenous population and suffering continues to this day. There is no easy solution to such a burden of pain. I believe the only solutions are for the non- Indigenous population to take responsibility and sacrifice our own way of life to bring about an overall equality. Sacrifice is not an easy word. But it all comes down to right and wrong. We are in a position to give, in this current generation. What are we so scared to lose, that was never ours in the first place??

Bibliography
McKenzie,C.”Prof” (2013), Lecture, Historic Injustices and Indigenous Rights, Macquarie University
Poole, R. (1999). Nation and Identity.Routledge, London, pp.114-142
Waldron,J. (1992). ‘Superseding Historic Injustice’. Ethics, 103 (1), 4-28

References
Poole, R. (1999). Nation and Identity.Routledge, London, pp.114-142
Waldron,J. (1992). ‘Superseding Historic Injustice’. Ethics, 103 (1), 4-28

southernraw Tuesday, 10 Dec 2024 at 9:03pm

It's the final solution oz style TBB.
Maybe they'll turn it into a reality TV show.
Absolutely disgraceful on so many fronts. Makes your gut churn.
Good post as always TBB. Cheers.

udo Tuesday, 17 Dec 2024 at 10:08am

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truebluebasher Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 6:41pm

Loudest Voice making too much white noise on the North Shore...
Black Hearted Queen Jacinta + head kickers Abbott & Anderson unleash attack dog Mundine...
Libs just voted that Mundine is far too White for North Shore Jewish seat of Bradfield.
Hate them black bastards meter registered at emergency low level of 47.9% pure hatred.
Not quite tipping the hate crime scales in Mundine's favour...bad luck champ!

Jews backed their Holy Armenian Gisele to lock horns with the climatized Green Billed Teal.
https://nit.com.au/18-01-2025/15807/mundine-loses-liberal-preselection-v...
All know how that ends...
https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/bird-sitting-head-gazelle_926199-2...

UK Grandad runs Jerusalem Quarter + Jews luv Gisele's Oz Armenian Hub in Bradfield electorate
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/liberal-candidate-for-bradfield-say...
https://issuu.com/giselekapterian/docs/giselle-proof311023_p3_1_
UK / Oz foreign office carve up & sale of Armenian Jerusalem Quarter to dodgy Oz Jewish developer.
Security expert Kapterian knows most about Oz Jew Armenian Jerusalem deals & how it starts a war.
Either that or she's bloody so daft to let Dodgiest ever Jew deal slide thru under her Oz watch...Huh!
Likely be rewarded highly for such extraordinary Family rorted dodginess in [L] Party.
Now yer talking 'bout the Qualities of a new cowardly [L] Messiah...a pliable Jewish plaything.

https://thejewishindependent.com.au/jerusalems-armenians-battle-an-austr...
https://www.jerusalemstory.com/en/article/armenians-launch-legal-battle-...

seeds Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 10:50pm

Attack dog without a job. Kidding himself wasn’t he in that electorate. Wazza ya clown.

seeds Friday, 24 Jan 2025 at 10:49pm

Nothing about reparations but a great OZ movie that most wouldn’t have seen. I recorded it years ago and it didn’t catch the end. Now I’ve finally seen it. (now it’s on YouTube)

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southernraw Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 9:56am

seeds wrote:
Nothing about reparations but a great OZ movie that most wouldn’t have seen. I recorded it years ago and it didn’t catch the end. Now I’ve finally seen it. (now it’s on YouTube)
https://youtu.be/GYsgWNrE1J0?si=aXjtJqQ-VcxiyiFI

Cheers for that @seeds. Might try to give it a watch today.

zenagain Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 10:26am

Great movie Seeds- probs watched it 30 odd years ago.

Have to revisit it.

zenagain Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 10:34am

Btw- the book is better.

southernraw Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 10:47am

Up the mighty Bombers!

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A Salty Dog Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 1:39pm

southernraw wrote:
Up the mighty Bombers!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFQ7trsTFiG/

I couldn't agree more sr!!!

But going through the comments, Dutton & Co have a lot to answer for.

There is still a long way to go sadly.

southernraw Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 2:37pm

A Salty Dog wrote:
southernraw wrote:
Up the mighty Bombers!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFQ7trsTFiG/

I couldn't agree more sr!!!

But going through the comments, Dutton & Co have a lot to answer for.

There is still a long way to go sadly.

Always a sad day for many hey. I'm sure it brings alot of things up.
Yeah thought the same @salty. I thought Bombers fans were better than that. Kinda made me wanna distance myself from the club now.
Exactly, the fear, divide and conquer tactics always do the trick.
Hope you're well mate.

basesix Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 3:03pm

yep, it's just about being listened to. simple as that. no one give a shit about most things they argue about - in this case a friggin date. it's a callow nation that digs in on technicalities regarding their greatest cultural asset, rather than changing and moving forward together. but hey, what fucking legends, 3% relentlessly giving the 97% the awkward willies. Always was, ain't going nowhere. Happy Aussie Day, all.

truebluebasher Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 5:33pm

Qldurrz join united message..Stoked for Vic Essendon's Aussie of the Year!

Recently uncovered a rather important Oz Day Back Story

Dutto mandates we bankroll the Pom's [ Made in China ] Day Merch
All the While...
[L]iberals paid $20m for Aboriginal Flag in order to ban it...but why do that?

Not tbb or other shoppers could see any [Made in China] Sticker on Aboriginal / TTI merch.
It seemingly implies it's made in Oz?

Seems bizarre but Guess What...tbb was right...
Dutto paid $20m for Aboriginal Flag to be made in Oz with all royalties to flow to First Nation.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jan/25/peter-dutton-reve...

25th Jan 2025 Dutto appoints Indigenous Minister Price as Govt Efficiency Minister.
First and only First Nation trade Mission that Dutto / Price agree on & enacted to date :
Ban Oz Govt's from buying & flying Liberal Govt's mandated only Oz made / designed $20m Flag.
This divisive #1 Anti Oz Trade act will deny First Nation [L] Mandated $20m #1 Income Source.
Meaning ALL Oz Govt's are to be denied & must ban #1 First Nation Income Royalties.
This is an act of #1 Financial Genocide...Procuring First Nation Identity to then Deny Royalties.

When tbb discussed this [Made in China (vs) Oz made] Anomaly in supermarkets...
ALL Shoppers said this to tbb :
"Maybe so...but yer seriously not buying Oz made Abo shit....
They advised to buy the Proud 100% Made in China Pommie shit!"

Obviously tbb just stood blank faced & gulped...just slowly put [L] Oz contraband merch back tbb!
Just pretend ya never saw it or touched it...said now...go sanitize yer hands...fair enough! Holy shit!
Mostly coz at that point tbb still wasn't convinced the Aboriginal Flag was Oz Made...
Well it seems the Govt are stipulating that the Oz Made Logo not be shown...to be hidden! Why!

Diabolical Dutto paid $20m for Oz Made Indigenous Royalties to ban it for his Chinese Masters!
[L] Made in China Fireworks Skyrocket the Polls (vs) [L] Oz Made First Nation Royalties are banned
That's the bizarre truth...KILL KILL KILL first nation Royalties & [L]ick Royal China Extravaganza!
Exactly the same false front as Trump > Despise Chinese Made but Skyrocket Made in China merch!

Q: Does Liberal Govt $20m Aboriginal Flag purchase include mandated Oz Made Sales Royalties?
Now ...C'mon! That is a shit hot [ Made in China Day ] Line in the Sand proposition...Well!

First Nation / TTI Supermarket Flags stickers copyright : Oz [Flagworld]...hides Oz Made logo?
https://www.flagworld.com.au/aboriginal-flag-colours#:~:text=Carroll%20%....
Carroll & Richardson Flagworld / High Quality Products /@\ Australian Made and Owned
Exclusive Licensed Manufacturer and Provider of The Aboriginal Flag / Pennants / Buntings
As part of the Commonwealth Copyright Agreement ALL Royalties from the Copyright are passed on to NAIDOC + Creator's Thomas Scholarship
Read Flying from Olympics / Harbour Bridge / SA Square Mandate + Flown from Govts / Councils

Seemingly Dutto / Jacinta wanna wipe out ALL Royalties flowing to First Nation via NAIDOC
So much so that Liberals are prepared to first buy then mandate the end of #1 First Nation Identity!
Mandated [Made in China] Day gesture by [L] Leaders...KILL KILL KILL all things Australian.

So there ya go...tbb rarely goes to the Supermarket...but when he does he gets an education...Fark!
Feel free to Wave Aussie Made Flags on Aussie day...if only to defy Duttos anti Oz Made mandate.

So about that tbb...
Walls of [L] Media claim ALP are not committed to Oz Day?
Any truth to that...
Citizenships Ceremonies
2016 16,000...390
2017 16,000...400
2018 13,000...330
2019 16,000...365
PM Morrison
2020 27,000...450 ($14m)
2021 13,000...335 ($11m-Covid Drop)
2022 16,000...400
PM Albo
2023 19,000...400 ($14m) onward > ($20m Total Committee Spend)
2024 15,000...320 (Council boycotts Drop)
2025 22,000...430
Scomo / Albo = Oz day Citizenships / Events / Budget all growing
Crew can read ALP on Average is more committed than Slacker Oz Day Liberal Govts
Never set out to prove such...

Council Drop has more to do with sharing the 2.5x Holiday rates cost burden thru the year...
All here know record Migration led to sharing record Citizenship Loads thru cheaper ceremony.
Also that Ceremony officiates faster buck passing from Local volunteers to Fed / Medicare / Voting
Dutto [L] wish for Councils to fund Migration & deny > delay seasonal Enrolment / Medicare to Annual.
Dutto wants annual Mass 2.5x Costly one off Citizenship...to protect growing stale lesser productive Voters.
Again crew know this overcrowds the Quota Massive 2.5x Costly premium cbd costed ceremonies...
[L] provide less Oz day Money than ALP...not gonna happen...
Ask! Where does Dutto commit to Ramp $20m > $50m & when will media bother to ask!
Mass Sale of Oz made Aboriginal Flag Merch Royalties would help pay for it but Dutto forbids it!
Mostly as Younger migrants tend to vote Left...non productive 40+ will vote Security > Safe Seniors [L]

[L] Media must now apologize & reframe the Question...
Will Dutto lift Unstrayan [L] commitment to equal ALP Oz day support.
Will Dutto drop his Anti Oz Day / Oz Made Merch Boycott
Will Dutto Dump his [Made in China] Day Anti Oz Supermarket Mandate
Will Dutto actually spend a dollar on Oz day?

eg: Dutto spends Zero dollars (Samford Oz day is 100% sponsored by Rotary)
Dutto "Presides over" Rotary / Salvos Slaves to fill his Dutto Show Bags
[L] Slave Slogan : [ Working Hard Getting Results ]
https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/471368598_113308051...

Albo reminds a Vote for Dutto is for "Promised 7th [L] Constitutional Voice Reffo recognition"
Howard / Turnbull / Scomo all clearly Argued for Constitutional recognition +
Same [L] dickheads argue their Gold Plated Oct Reffo was Albo's doing? Huh!
Albo argued to keep the Reffo Generic > Dutto wanted Gold Pamphlets & his school Lunch Wrap.
July [L] Voice Reffo enrolled 2022 [L] Voters (For Rorted Pre Poll Private Reffo)
Oct [L] Alone campaigned for WR costly Gold Standard Voice Reffo
2025 [L] Campaigned for extra 2025 Duel Voice Reffo / Fed Election
2026/27 [L] Campaigned for Electoral Win mid term Voice Reffo
$2b and counting > $4bn [L] promised Gold Voice Reffo commitment & Media grills Albo over 1 cheapie ...Huh!
NO Voters don't Know if they'll vote in all 7 or more [L] Voice Reffos.

Albo reminds [L] Voters that yer Voting for another #6 or #7 or more Voice Reffos..
Think Dutto is campaigning for [Yes] or [No] No idea!
Here's the latest on [L] Dutto's Voice Reffo or not...doesn't really matter...Dutto is full of shit...liar!
[0:30] Even the Sky Interviewer laughs off Dutto's Executive Lunch Mid Term Voice Reffo...

southernraw Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 5:34pm

Right on TBB!
And i also salute the great Bomber Neale Daniher.

A Salty Dog Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 10:49pm

southernraw wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
southernraw wrote:
Up the mighty Bombers!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFQ7trsTFiG/

I couldn't agree more sr!!!

But going through the comments, Dutton & Co have a lot to answer for.

There is still a long way to go sadly.

Always a sad day for many hey. I'm sure it brings alot of things up.
Yeah thought the same @salty. I thought Bombers fans were better than that. Kinda made me wanna distance myself from the club now.
Exactly, the fear, divide and conquer tactics always do the trick.
Hope you're well mate.

Hi sr.

I'm going ok, and hope you're travelling well.

I've always been a Bombers boy, though I was under a lot of pressure as a kid to follow Richmond!

It's been a long time so nothing will change that now!

Cheers

A Salty Dog Sunday, 26 Jan 2025 at 10:52pm

truebluebasher wrote:
Qldurrz join united message..Stoked for Vic Essendon's Aussie of the Year!

Recently uncovered a rather important Oz Day Back Story

Dutto mandates we bankroll the Pom's [ Made in China ] Day Merch
All the While...
[L]iberals paid $20m for Aboriginal Flag in order to ban it...but why do that?

Not tbb or other shoppers could see any [Made in China] Sticker on Aboriginal / TTI merch.
It seemingly implies it's made in Oz?

Seems bizarre but Guess What...tbb was right...
Dutto paid $20m for Aboriginal Flag to be made in Oz with all royalties to flow to First Nation.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jan/25/peter-dutton-reve...

25th Jan 2025 Dutto appoints Indigenous Minister Price as Govt Efficiency Minister.
First and only First Nation trade Mission that Dutto / Price agree on & enacted to date :
Ban Oz Govt's from buying & flying Liberal Govt's mandated only Oz made / designed $20m Flag.
This divisive #1 Anti Oz Trade act will deny First Nation [L] Mandated $20m #1 Income Source.
Meaning ALL Oz Govt's are to be denied & must ban #1 First Nation Income Royalties.
This is an act of #1 Financial Genocide...Procuring First Nation Identity to then Deny Royalties.

When tbb discussed this [Made in China (vs) Oz made] Anomaly in supermarkets...
ALL Shoppers said this to tbb :
"Maybe so...but yer seriously not buying Oz made Abo shit....
They advised to buy the Proud 100% Made in China Pommie shit!"

Obviously tbb just stood blank faced & gulped...just slowly put [L] Oz contraband merch back tbb!
Just pretend ya never saw it or touched it...said now...go sanitize yer hands...fair enough! Holy shit!
Mostly coz at that point tbb still wasn't convinced the Aboriginal Flag was Oz Made...
Well it seems the Govt are stipulating that the Oz Made Logo not be shown...to be hidden! Why!

Diabolical Dutto paid $20m for Oz Made Indigenous Royalties to ban it for his Chinese Masters!
[L] Made in China Fireworks Skyrocket the Polls (vs) [L] Oz Made First Nation Royalties are banned
That's the bizarre truth...KILL KILL KILL first nation Royalties & [L]ick Royal China Extravaganza!
Exactly the same false front as Trump > Despise Chinese Made but Skyrocket Made in China merch!

Q: Does Liberal Govt $20m Aboriginal Flag purchase include mandated Oz Made Sales Royalties?
Now ...C'mon! That is a shit hot [ Made in China Day ] Line in the Sand proposition...Well!

First Nation / TTI Supermarket Flags stickers copyright : Oz [Flagworld]...hides Oz Made logo?
https://www.flagworld.com.au/aboriginal-flag-colours#:~:text=Carroll%20%....
Carroll & Richardson Flagworld / High Quality Products /@\ Australian Made and Owned
Exclusive Licensed Manufacturer and Provider of The Aboriginal Flag / Pennants / Buntings
As part of the Commonwealth Copyright Agreement ALL Royalties from the Copyright are passed on to NAIDOC + Creator's Thomas Scholarship
Read Flying from Olympics / Harbour Bridge / SA Square Mandate + Flown from Govts / Councils

Seemingly Dutto / Jacinta wanna wipe out ALL Royalties flowing to First Nation via NAIDOC
So much so that Liberals are prepared to first buy then mandate the end of #1 First Nation Identity!
Mandated [Made in China] Day gesture by [L] Leaders...KILL KILL KILL all things Australian.

So there ya go...tbb rarely goes to the Supermarket...but when he does he gets an education...Fark!
Feel free to Wave Aussie Made Flags on Aussie day...if only to defy Duttos anti Oz Made mandate.

So about that tbb...
Walls of [L] Media claim ALP are not committed to Oz Day?
Any truth to that...
Citizenships Ceremonies
2016 16,000...390
2017 16,000...400
2018 13,000...330
2019 16,000...365
PM Morrison
2020 27,000...450 ($14m)
2021 13,000...335 ($11m-Covid Drop)
2022 16,000...400
PM Albo
2023 19,000...400 ($14m) onward > ($20m Total Committee Spend)
2024 15,000...320 (Council boycotts Drop)
2025 22,000...430
Scomo / Albo = Oz day Citizenships / Events / Budget all growing
Crew can read ALP on Average is more committed than Slacker Oz Day Liberal Govts
Never set out to prove such...

Council Drop has more to do with sharing the 2.5x Holiday rates cost burden thru the year...
All here know record Migration led to sharing record Citizenship Loads thru cheaper ceremony.
Also that Ceremony officiates faster buck passing from Local volunteers to Fed / Medicare / Voting
Dutto [L] wish for Councils to fund Migration & deny > delay seasonal Enrolment / Medicare to Annual.
Dutto wants annual Mass 2.5x Costly one off Citizenship...to protect growing stale lesser productive Voters.
Again crew know this overcrowds the Quota Massive 2.5x Costly premium cbd costed ceremonies...
[L] provide less Oz day Money than ALP...not gonna happen...
Ask! Where does Dutto commit to Ramp $20m > $50m & when will media bother to ask!
Mass Sale of Oz made Aboriginal Flag Merch Royalties would help pay for it but Dutto forbids it!
Mostly as Younger migrants tend to vote Left...non productive 40+ will vote Security > Safe Seniors [L]

[L] Media must now apologize & reframe the Question...
Will Dutto lift Unstrayan [L] commitment to equal ALP Oz day support.
Will Dutto drop his Anti Oz Day / Oz Made Merch Boycott
Will Dutto Dump his [Made in China] Day Anti Oz Supermarket Mandate
Will Dutto actually spend a dollar on Oz day?

eg: Dutto spends Zero dollars (Samford Oz day is 100% sponsored by Rotary)
Dutto "Presides over" Rotary / Salvos Slaves to fill his Dutto Show Bags
[L] Slave Slogan : [ Working Hard Getting Results ]
https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/471368598_113308051...

Albo reminds a Vote for Dutto is for "Promised 7th [L] Constitutional Voice Reffo recognition"
Howard / Turnbull / Scomo all clearly Argued for Constitutional recognition +
Same [L] dickheads argue their Gold Plated Oct Reffo was Albo's doing? Huh!
Albo argued to keep the Reffo Generic > Dutto wanted Gold Pamphlets & his school Lunch Wrap.
July [L] Voice Reffo enrolled 2022 [L] Voters (For Rorted Pre Poll Private Reffo)
Oct [L] Alone campaigned for WR costly Gold Standard Voice Reffo
2025 [L] Campaigned for extra 2025 Duel Voice Reffo / Fed Election
2026/27 [L] Campaigned for Electoral Win mid term Voice Reffo
$2b and counting > $4bn [L] promised Gold Voice Reffo commitment & Media grills Albo over 1 cheapie ...Huh!
NO Voters don't Know if they'll vote in all 7 or more [L] Voice Reffos.

Albo reminds [L] Voters that yer Voting for another #6 or #7 or more Voice Reffos..
Think Dutto is campaigning for [Yes] or [No] No idea!
Here's the latest on [L] Dutto's Voice Reffo or not...doesn't really matter...Dutto is full of shit...liar!
[0:30] Even the Sky Interviewer laughs off Dutto's Executive Lunch Mid Term Voice Reffo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2uLZ-URsf4

Hi tbb,

I hope things are ok.

Great work there.

The LNP: the Coalition of Contradiction.

What more can you say.

Cheers.

southernraw Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 12:16pm

A Salty Dog wrote:
southernraw wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
southernraw wrote:
Up the mighty Bombers!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFQ7trsTFiG/

I couldn't agree more sr!!!

But going through the comments, Dutton & Co have a lot to answer for.

There is still a long way to go sadly.

Always a sad day for many hey. I'm sure it brings alot of things up.
Yeah thought the same @salty. I thought Bombers fans were better than that. Kinda made me wanna distance myself from the club now.
Exactly, the fear, divide and conquer tactics always do the trick.
Hope you're well mate.

Hi sr.

I'm going ok, and hope you're travelling well.

I've always been a Bombers boy, though I was under a lot of pressure as a kid to follow Richmond!

It's been a long time so nothing will change that now!

Cheers

Good onya @salty.
Yeah same as per longevity of supporting them.
Just got my members jumper in the mail a few days ago!
Can't worry about the vocal minority on FB i suppose.
Cheers mate.

seeds Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 12:32pm

Here’s to another year of the Bombers finishing outside the top 8!

udo Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 12:52pm

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AlfredWallace Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 2:18pm

udo wrote:
https://youtu.be/yU3pA_k51Xs?si=QkIbmHuXKme18Pvn

Brain cavity vacuumed. Such a loser IMO. AW

basesix Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 3:41pm

who's sam newman? wasn't he a geriatric crocs™ influencer?

Supafreak Monday, 27 Jan 2025 at 4:38pm

Quote Sam Newman “ if someone hadn’t turned up all those years ago, they’d be nothing here “ spoken like the legendary fuckwit he is . He was gibbering that fast , struggling to get words out, makes me think , he’s on something .