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monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
Nah, they were on a completely different planet to their voters
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/11/take-it-from-a-metropolitan-lib...
TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:green room wrote:The U.S. election was just like your The Voice vote. The entire deep state regime and establishment were backing Kamala. People got totally dragged, smeared, and labeled as racist, fascist Nazis by it just for opposing Kamala. But the silent majority—the regular folks—saw right through the propaganda machine and made their voices loud and clear. Elon buying X has completely brought down the legacy mainstream media disinformation and lies machine. Last week changed the game worldwide forever. Things will never go back to the way they were.
100% Green room. The world is changing for the better with this trump win.
Other than global warming catastrophes occuring everywhere. Bozo.
Like sea level rising? Or the ozone layer hole that was going to kill us? Sorry if I’m sceptical of governments and their global warming events.
So all the rainfall events aren't a little out of the ordinary? Warmer earth = more moisture held in atmosphere = cataclysmic rainfall events. Anyone can see this or is the news footage fake as well? Derp.
Yes champ, the end is near. Now hand over some sweet extra cash to make it all better.
velocityjohnno wrote:monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
Nah, they were on a completely different planet to their voters
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/11/take-it-from-a-metropolitan-lib...
Exactly, spot on. This is a great article.
burleigh wrote:TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:green room wrote:The U.S. election was just like your The Voice vote. The entire deep state regime and establishment were backing Kamala. People got totally dragged, smeared, and labeled as racist, fascist Nazis by it just for opposing Kamala. But the silent majority—the regular folks—saw right through the propaganda machine and made their voices loud and clear. Elon buying X has completely brought down the legacy mainstream media disinformation and lies machine. Last week changed the game worldwide forever. Things will never go back to the way they were.
100% Green room. The world is changing for the better with this trump win.
Other than global warming catastrophes occuring everywhere. Bozo.
Like sea level rising? Or the ozone layer hole that was going to kill us? Sorry if I’m sceptical of governments and their global warming events.
So all the rainfall events aren't a little out of the ordinary? Warmer earth = more moisture held in atmosphere = cataclysmic rainfall events. Anyone can see this or is the news footage fake as well? Derp.
Yes champ, the end is near. Now hand over some sweet extra cash to make it all better.
Lol. Poor fool u. Champ.
flollo wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
Nah, they were on a completely different planet to their voters
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/11/take-it-from-a-metropolitan-lib...
Exactly, spot on. This is a great article.
Southernraw should read this article, hopefully he’ll take it onboard.
monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
The main issue was the Democrats ran a woman and being black didnt help.
It was generally accepted by Democrat insiders the above was the case and that Harris wouldn't be the candidate once Biden was pushed aside which was well in the planning long before the Biden / Trump debate which eventually forced Biden out.
What the delays were in getting Biden to agree and how Harris ended up the Democrat pick are the real questions along with why many of the so called Democrat stars didn't contest Harris.
Trump should never had a look in and against a capable white male would have struggled although Trump won convincingly by state numbers it was very close for many of the battleground states and overall in actual numbers.
Still extraordinary win for a criminal, the only way Trump could avoid serious consequences from court outcomes.
For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
AndyM wrote:flollo wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
Nah, they were on a completely different planet to their voters
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/11/take-it-from-a-metropolitan-lib...
Exactly, spot on. This is a great article.
Southernraw should read this article, hopefully he’ll take it onboard.
Good article and this has to be taken into account also.
I focus wrote:monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
The main issue was the Democrats ran a woman and being black didnt help.
It was generally accepted by Democrat insiders the above was the case and that Harris wouldn't be the candidate once Biden was pushed aside which was well in the planning long before the Biden / Trump debate which eventually forced Biden out.
What the delays were in getting Biden to agree and how Harris ended up the Democrat pick are the real questions along with why many of the so called Democrat stars didn't contest Harris.
Trump should never had a look in and against a capable white male would have struggled although Trump won convincingly by state numbers it was very close for many of the battleground states and overall in actual numbers.
Still extraordinary win for a criminal, the only way Trump could avoid serious consequences from court outcomes.
For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
Not a Trump fan. Believe politicians should be 'our better selves' and that diplomacy is a long underestimated, and greatly misunderstood, skill. Trump is none of those things.
However, that's by the by.
The greater issue is that, for a long time, it hasn't felt like we...the royal we, the collective we, are heading towards a better place. Everyone will have their own reasons for that but mine are that politics is being railroaded by corporate interests. Lobby groups, PR firms, rent-seeking multinationals, the hair-thin distance between the party room and the corporate boardroom.
There's much more to say in this space but I'm sure you get it.
So given the US only has two parties to choose from the decision is to continue on the same path - meaning: moving even further away from that 'better place' - or hold your nose and give the other guy a go.
For one. It's a given that successful US politicians are beholden to corporate interests. They can't get there any other way than by raising funds and making deals. So it was always going to take someone of independent means to buck that system. And it just so happens it's Trump.
I've said it before, but it feels like we're on the cusp of a significant change. In a way it's not unlike the early-70s when neither side of politics could figure out stagflation. It took a wholly new economic outlook to resolve it and move forward.
I'm not sure what the new economic outlook will be, but I know that doing nothing will only see the better world recede even further into the rearview mirror.
I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
flollo wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
Nah, they were on a completely different planet to their voters
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/11/take-it-from-a-metropolitan-lib...
Exactly, spot on. This is a great article.
What I took away from Indo's 2 videos on the preceding page is that the margin even in this landslide, isn't that great. If the Democrats shelve all the scorn of their constituents, if they stop the uni lecturer verbiage and guilt; and if they go and focus on the working class by listening to them - it's easily probable they get to take Presidency, houses etc.
But will they? I reckon they'll fight to keep the woke until it burns them some more.
burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
He is probably talking about what happened in the 45th presidents time.
Affordable cost of living...the minority groups with their highest employment rates ever...no wars...no border disasters..no Kabul disasters...An energy exporting USA.
The 47th president can try and fix some of this shit that the 46th wokeyJOEkey created!
Twumpy first time in inherited OH BUMAs rubbish and did a reasonable job,Fixing whats in front of him now is more difficult but he has 4 year experience this time round.
quadzilla wrote:burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
He is probably talking about what happened in the 45th presidents time.
Affordable cost of living...the minority groups with their highest employment rates ever...no wars...no border disasters..no Kabul disasters...An energy exporting USA.
The 47th president can try and fix some of this shit that the 46th wokeyJOEkey created!
Twumpy first time in inherited OH BUMAs rubbish and did a reasonable job,Fixing whats in front of him now is more difficult but he has 4 year experience this time round.
yes, That's dire alright. Not even the ABC could throw shit on that (they will try)
Great to see Elon Musk selected to take out the trash along with RKJ. there will be some people throwing their laptops out at sea right now.
This is a game changer. Zuck will be lathering up Trump to try stay on his good side.
Could Musk be the next president? Not sure it's even possible being a saffa.
Spiked is on a roll, this one was great, too: how the Democrats lost the multiracial working class:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/11/how-the-multiracial-working-cla...
If you go back on these forums for years now, we've been bringing up points like this. Now look at Australia, and the enormous economic squeeze since inflation has been felt, the cultural angst, the huge immigration surge - it's not all that different an experience. It will be immensely interesting to see how we vote.
@Quaddilla,
that's good stuff and I like the childish nicknames, the caps help too, very Trump!
Keep it up, you're changing minds, changing the world, one SN post at a time. You and @Indo.
But you'd have to up your game to improve on today's highlight in this bro show...GreenRoom and his episode of "Real Talk"....
"something something...Elon Musk...X rules!"
BOOM! Mikedrop!
Far out that was some new school old schooling the wokester leftards right there!
I'm looking forward to future installments of @GreenRoom's "Real Talk", reckon there's the making's of a big bros schooling bros podcast in all that, a Bogan Rogan type of broadcast, could be big!
Maybe some spin off potential too...GreenRoom's "Dirty Talk"...GreenRoom's "Jive talk."
I'm gonna have a good think about all this....
I focus wrote:monkeyboy wrote:I do wonder if the Republican party winning is because the Democrat party actively chose to lose this one and sit out the next 4 years. I guess we will find out.
The main issue was the Democrats ran a woman and being black didnt help.
It was generally accepted by Democrat insiders the above was the case and that Harris wouldn't be the candidate once Biden was pushed aside which was well in the planning long before the Biden / Trump debate which eventually forced Biden out.
What the delays were in getting Biden to agree and how Harris ended up the Democrat pick are the real questions along with why many of the so called Democrat stars didn't contest Harris.
Trump should never had a look in and against a capable white male would have struggled although Trump won convincingly by state numbers it was very close for many of the battleground states and overall in actual numbers.
Still extraordinary win for a criminal, the only way Trump could avoid serious consequences from court outcomes.
For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
I really think that falling back on the “Trump voters are sexist and racist” trope fundamentally overlooks everything in the last 50 odd years that has let us to a Trump presidency.
If we can’t acknowledge the multitude of reasons why people voted for Trump or conversely all the reasons why people didn’t want to vote for the status quo, then we are most likely going to repeat this cycle in the future and/or go down a worse path.
Some believe the saviour of the world has returned. 
To quote from the article that VJ posted (written by a Democratic strategist no less) -
"You can’t just write these people off as racists or xenophobes. This would not be a productive way to look at it.
There’s a message here, and the message is that the political, economic and cultural model that’s being pushed in the US and in some other countries is not to the liking of working-class people."
And importantly, the two majors in Australia need to acknowledge this as well. They've been steadily haemorrhaging votes for decades and they still haven't woken up.
In the long run, it might possibly be a good thing for Australia that they haven't anyway.
All those people with illegal immigrants in their family will learn the hard way things just don’t work out sometimes.
The new border tsar will go on a removal spree.
All those people that work in Govt dept and/or have family that do will learn the hard way things just don’t work out sometimes.
Musk and Co will go on a crazy firing spree.
Roadkill wrote:All those people with illegal immigrants in their family will learn the hard way things just don’t work out sometimes.
The new border tsar will go on a removal spree.All those people that work in Govt dept and/or have family that do will learn the hard way things just don’t work out sometimes.
Musk and Co will go on a crazy firing spree.
You're a stickler for the rules Dill. You should have no problem with ILLEGAL immigrants being sent back to be process LEGALLY.
Your Covid rules mentality comes to mind.
burleigh wrote:quadzilla wrote:burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
He is probably talking about what happened in the 45th presidents time.
Affordable cost of living...the minority groups with their highest employment rates ever...no wars...no border disasters..no Kabul disasters...An energy exporting USA.
The 47th president can try and fix some of this shit that the 46th wokeyJOEkey created!
Twumpy first time in inherited OH BUMAs rubbish and did a reasonable job,Fixing whats in front of him now is more difficult but he has 4 year experience this time round.
yes, That's dire alright. Not even the ABC could throw shit on that (they will try)
Great to see Elon Musk selected to take out the trash along with RKJ. there will be some people throwing their laptops out at sea right now.
This is a game changer. Zuck will be lathering up Trump to try stay on his good side.
Could Musk be the next president? Not sure it's even possible being a saffa.
Gamechanger haha. It's called corruption and conflicted interests. So business Elon is going to extinguish departments that impede his interests huh? Palestine solution is now fucked with Fuckabee in charge. Honestly burley yr very trump-like. Disconnected from reality. Just ignore facts and repeat untruths ad nauseum. Dopey. Unstable genius.
TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:quadzilla wrote:burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
He is probably talking about what happened in the 45th presidents time.
Affordable cost of living...the minority groups with their highest employment rates ever...no wars...no border disasters..no Kabul disasters...An energy exporting USA.
The 47th president can try and fix some of this shit that the 46th wokeyJOEkey created!
Twumpy first time in inherited OH BUMAs rubbish and did a reasonable job,Fixing whats in front of him now is more difficult but he has 4 year experience this time round.
yes, That's dire alright. Not even the ABC could throw shit on that (they will try)
Great to see Elon Musk selected to take out the trash along with RKJ. there will be some people throwing their laptops out at sea right now.
This is a game changer. Zuck will be lathering up Trump to try stay on his good side.
Could Musk be the next president? Not sure it's even possible being a saffa.
Gamechanger haha. It's called corruption and conflicted interests. So business Elon is going to extinguish departments that impede his interests huh? Palestine solution is now fucked with Fuckabee in charge. Honestly burley yr very trump-like. Disconnected from reality. Just ignore facts and repeat untruths ad nauseum. Dopey. Unstable genius.
Think before you type Champ.
burleigh wrote:TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:quadzilla wrote:burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
He is probably talking about what happened in the 45th presidents time.
Affordable cost of living...the minority groups with their highest employment rates ever...no wars...no border disasters..no Kabul disasters...An energy exporting USA.
The 47th president can try and fix some of this shit that the 46th wokeyJOEkey created!
Twumpy first time in inherited OH BUMAs rubbish and did a reasonable job,Fixing whats in front of him now is more difficult but he has 4 year experience this time round.
yes, That's dire alright. Not even the ABC could throw shit on that (they will try)
Great to see Elon Musk selected to take out the trash along with RKJ. there will be some people throwing their laptops out at sea right now.
This is a game changer. Zuck will be lathering up Trump to try stay on his good side.
Could Musk be the next president? Not sure it's even possible being a saffa.
Gamechanger haha. It's called corruption and conflicted interests. So business Elon is going to extinguish departments that impede his interests huh? Palestine solution is now fucked with Fuckabee in charge. Honestly burley yr very trump-like. Disconnected from reality. Just ignore facts and repeat untruths ad nauseum. Dopey. Unstable genius.
Think before you type Champ.
Well thought out Chump. Can't u see the writing on the wall? How can u and trump be so pig-ignorant?
TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:TimTam wrote:burleigh wrote:quadzilla wrote:burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
He is probably talking about what happened in the 45th presidents time.
Affordable cost of living...the minority groups with their highest employment rates ever...no wars...no border disasters..no Kabul disasters...An energy exporting USA.
The 47th president can try and fix some of this shit that the 46th wokeyJOEkey created!
Twumpy first time in inherited OH BUMAs rubbish and did a reasonable job,Fixing whats in front of him now is more difficult but he has 4 year experience this time round.
yes, That's dire alright. Not even the ABC could throw shit on that (they will try)
Great to see Elon Musk selected to take out the trash along with RKJ. there will be some people throwing their laptops out at sea right now.
This is a game changer. Zuck will be lathering up Trump to try stay on his good side.
Could Musk be the next president? Not sure it's even possible being a saffa.
Gamechanger haha. It's called corruption and conflicted interests. So business Elon is going to extinguish departments that impede his interests huh? Palestine solution is now fucked with Fuckabee in charge. Honestly burley yr very trump-like. Disconnected from reality. Just ignore facts and repeat untruths ad nauseum. Dopey. Unstable genius.
Think before you type Champ.
Well thought out Chump. Can't u see the writing on the wall? How can u and trump be so pig-ignorant?
If you believe Palestine Solution was ever going to happen then you are beyond help.
1 billion dollars blown in a few months
AndyM wrote:I really think that falling back on the “Trump voters are sexist and racist” trope fundamentally overlooks everything in the last 50 odd years that has let us to a Trump presidency.
If we can’t acknowledge the multitude of reasons why people voted for Trump or conversely all the reasons why people didn’t want to vote for the status quo, then we are most likely going to repeat this cycle in the future and/or go down a worse path.
I agree plus understand along with Stu's comment's the Democrats have failed to rein in the attitude that unfettered free markets fixes everything the very thing that has bought the middle and lower wage earners to where they are now and of course diverting the riches to the top.
And yes there is much much more but Trump has moved to own the Republican Party not sure anyone has been in his position before perhaps Trump is just an outlier.
Still starting with a black female seen by some as token I think was an issue.
burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
Anything is possible and outcomes not given but if Trump imposes tariffs world wide and of course there will be retaliation then that will weaken growth plus restart an upward inflation trend and if it gets bad then a recession is a given.
That all feeds back into iron ore pricing and Australian exports generally, we may see cheaper pricing from Chinese imports.
Hoover introduced tariffs during his term which fed straight into the great depression note also he deported 1 million mexicans 60% born in the US.
Some claim removing so many immigrants from the US now will feed into food prices as most work in low paid food production.
Still what Trumps says isn't alway a guide to his actions we will see.
Elons really pumping this on X , hard to take him and trump seriously with their weird cosplay . https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856530955709587762?s=49. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856636962645401627?s=46
@ Ifocus
Ive read & listened to over a dozen analysis on why Trump won and Harris lost, none have said anything about being a women or black, they all focus on things like cost of living, border control, and people not interested in things like trans issues when they have real issues to deal with that affect them like cost of living.
On the black thing Obama won the popular vote and won his first election by a huge margin and when re elected won by a bigger margin than Trump won this election by, even now he is quite popular for an X president.
Being a women we only have one recent other women candidate to go off, both lost but it doesn't mean that either being women was a factor in losing.
I focus wrote:burleigh wrote:I focus wrote:For the Trump fans here interested in why the following given the Trump election appears to have quite dire consequences for Australia even if Trump only gets his way with half of his proposed actions as President.
What dire consequences are you talking about?
Anything is possible and outcomes not given but if Trump imposes tariffs world wide and of course there will be retaliation then that will weaken growth plus restart an upward inflation trend and if it gets bad then a recession is a given.
That all feeds back into iron ore pricing and Australian exports generally, we may see cheaper pricing from Chinese imports.
Hoover introduced tariffs during his term which fed straight into the great depression note also he deported 1 million mexicans 60% born in the US.
Some claim removing so many immigrants from the US now will feed into food prices as most work in low paid food production.
Still what Trumps says isn't alway a guide to his actions we will see.
I have no crystal ball, but cannot see anything good coming out of a Trump presidency for the world or the US, except if they lose their world hegemony which looks to be happening regardless.
How's their debt? Brics, no longer any kind of ethical standing with the rest of the world except for the Vassel states, tax cuts for rich firing up inflation, blue states might just tell me to piss off by having their own laws and these are the states that actually power the economy of USA.
Nutty evangelical Chicken hawks with levers of power, what could go wrong??
Get the pop corn out as I reckon it will get messy.
I feel for the American people as the ones I know and have met are generally great kind people.
The other side not much better with their active support and promotion of a genocide and total disregard for their own population. They did not deserve to win either. Bernie might have turned things around, but they chose Hilary.
If ya think Trump and his crew and going to MAGA, I reckon ya deluded.
Let's see what the next 4 years bring if we are still around.
2 cents done.
Supafreak wrote:Elons really pumping this on X , hard to take him and trump seriously with their weird cosplay . https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856530955709587762?s=49. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856636962645401627?s=46
Oh dear....
yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.
Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?
anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust off the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.
Tulsi named as director of national intelligence, killary will be having kittens over that appointment .
basesix wrote:yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.
Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?
anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust of the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.
Wish I could say the same about the surf being up for the weekend here!
Enjoy base....
I just see Elon’s doge program as a way of speeding up his mission to mars . If the regulators are removed he’s free to do things his way and dam the consequences for anyone else . Apparently there’s a fine line between genius and insanity. He and trump are great salesmen to the naivety of desperate people . 
^ ha, that's gold @Supa. That'll be my new desktop. I've had Trump holding his bloodied ear (that thing healed quick for an old guy, hey?) as my desktop for long enough.
Loving Trumps picks not only Tulsi and Musk. but some of the others im familiar with and those im not sound real positive in particular around position's to do with the middle east, very pro Israel, pro USA, pro West, complete night mare for Iran & its proxies.
Also good to see a some women & some younger people and ethic diversity, by all means pick the best person for the job, but its also good to mix it up when you can.
I do think there is going to be some head butting and fall out in time though, i cant see Musk or Tulsi getting through the full four years, maybe not even 6 months.
Bit worried about RFK getting a position though, dudes a bit of a fruit loop, keep him away from health for gods sake
indo-dreaming wrote:Loving Trumps picks not only Tulsi and Musk. but some of the others im familiar with and those im not sound real positive in particular around position's to do with the middle east, very pro Israel, pro USA, pro West, complete night mare for Iran & its proxies.
Also good to see a some women & some younger people and ethic diversity, by all means pick the best person for the job, but its also good to mix it up when you can.
I do think there is going to be some head butting and fall out in time though, i cant see Musk or Tulsi getting through the full four years, maybe not even 6 months.
Bit worried about RFK getting a position though, dudes a bit of a fruit loop, keep him away from health for gods sake
"by all means pick the best person for the job"
but he didn't pick the best people for the job.
jobs were handed out on loyalty and stroking Trumps ego...being able to acquiesce was also a favourable trait.
basesix wrote:yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.
Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?
anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust off the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.
I appreciate your attitude, Base, and i would share it. (i do share it)
Last week, i received the first of what will be a trickle at least and a current at worst of human beings coming to our hospital, already on legal holds, triggered by the election.
I have already seen a shift in the internal dialogues of our less oriented population.
They used to be ramblings about being Elvis’s son or Queen Anne herself….. they have been increasingly focusing on the political bullshit we are fed, and that we feed ourselves.
The vulnerable among us simply cannot digest the bullshit and choke on it, unable to cope.
I have two volunteer community based gigs i have been a part of for years. I don’t like to talk about it and won’t.
I have a network of contacts.
I am bracing for a very busy few years. It’s just the beginning.
I’m up for it. (shrug)
Matt Gaetz is attorney general. Promoted as he is the biggest ass licking sycophant.
Caught the tail end of an interview with Peter Malinauskas on ABC RN this morning, when they asked him (something along the lines of) his thoughts on appointing Musk into the new US Administration.
I don't have the transcript here (and keeping in mind all politicians have to be careful what they say publicly, lest their comments come back to haunt them in the future aka Rudd) but it was a long the lines of: he thought it was a good idea to mix things up with a diverse range of people and talent, but the positions at the top were better suited to those people with some experience in formal government roles.
Which makes perfect sense. It's all well and good to shout catchy slogans and tell everyone how you can make things better, but the simple fact is that almost every government job - especially those in leadership roles - involve a shitload of boring bureaucracy. And if you have no interest in that kind of work, then you may not be as effective in that position as your catchy slogans suggests.
wax24 wrote:Last week, i received the first of what will be a trickle at least and a current at worst of human beings coming to our hospital, already on legal holds, triggered by the election.
I have already seen a shift in the internal dialogues of our less oriented population.
They used to be ramblings about being Elvis’s son or Queen Anne herself….. they have been increasingly focusing on the political bullshit we are fed, and that we feed ourselves.
The vulnerable among us simply cannot digest the bullshit and choke on it, unable to cope.
Wow, that's a fascinating insight. And slightly terrifying.
Hats off to you for your community work too, mate.
Good luck and more power to you Wax. It sounds like it will be a busy time.
… everything’ll be fine, for some ;)
- just gotta sing the right tune
;);)
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Bit worried about RFK getting a position though, dudes a bit of a fruit loop, keep him away from health for gods sake
RFK is his best pick. Have you read his book about Fauci?
Gaetz is a law school graduate who worked for about two years in private practice before entering politics.
Jeeze, what a puppet he will be. He will do everything he is told to do.
indo-dreaming wrote:Loving Trumps picks
Yeah, this guy should be good...
wax24 wrote:basesix wrote:yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.
Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?
anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust off the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.
I appreciate your attitude, Base, and i would share it. (i do share it)
Last week, i received the first of what will be a trickle at least and a current at worst of human beings coming to our hospital, already on legal holds, triggered by the election.
I have already seen a shift in the internal dialogues of our less oriented population.
They used to be ramblings about being Elvis’s son or Queen Anne herself….. they have been increasingly focusing on the political bullshit we are fed, and that we feed ourselves.
The vulnerable among us simply cannot digest the bullshit and choke on it, unable to cope.
I have two volunteer community based gigs i have been a part of for years. I don’t like to talk about it and won’t.
I have a network of contacts.
I am bracing for a very busy few years. It’s just the beginning.
I’m up for it. (shrug)
Hi mate, I'm wondering how you define vulnerable or "less oriented population".
Hiccups wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Loving Trumps picks
Yeah, this guy should be good...
I'll admit this is a weird one.
Have any of the Jan 6 rebels got a job in the new team trump yet ? he’s probably just going to pardon them first before offering them a job . Maybe Alex Jones could be the press release guy ?
It’s going to be 4 years of crazy.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank