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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Hiccups Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:34am
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It’s going to be 4 years of crazy.

It's quite exciting watching the fall of an empire. Thanks, Donald J. Trump for hurrying it along.

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Hiccups Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:39am
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Have any of the Jan 6 rebels got a job in the new team trump yet ? he’s probably just going to pardon them first before offering them a job . Maybe Alex Jones could be the press release guy ?

Uncle Sam V 2.0

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wax24 Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:41am
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yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.

Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?

anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust off the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.

I appreciate your attitude, Base, and i would share it. (i do share it)

Last week, i received the first of what will be a trickle at least and a current at worst of human beings coming to our hospital, already on legal holds, triggered by the election.

I have already seen a shift in the internal dialogues of our less oriented population.

They used to be ramblings about being Elvis’s son or Queen Anne herself….. they have been increasingly focusing on the political bullshit we are fed, and that we feed ourselves.

The vulnerable among us simply cannot digest the bullshit and choke on it, unable to cope.

I have two volunteer community based gigs i have been a part of for years. I don’t like to talk about it and won’t.

I have a network of contacts.

I am bracing for a very busy few years. It’s just the beginning.

I’m up for it. (shrug)

Hi mate, I'm wondering how you define vulnerable or "less oriented population".

Hey AndyM… so, when assessing a human in medical crisis ya start with where they are at. The convention is Orientation x4. So the criteria is name, date/time, place, situation.
“Situation” is tricky as the goal is a certain greater awareness.
The convention is to ask who is President.
So, a patient that can only supply me with enough to warrant AOx2 is vulnerable
I, personally, believe ya can be vulnerable at AOx4, and the DSM-IV is always chasin, but that is me.

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Roadkill Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:46am

I wonder if people in the US are looking at each other with these Trump picks and thinking wtf did we do?

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wax24 Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:49am
Roadkill wrote:

I wonder if people in the US are looking at each other with these Trump picks and thinking wtf did we do?

It’s uncomfortable, Roady.
Will stay that way.
Wariness will reign.

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Jelly Flater Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:50am

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andy-mac Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:59am
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Roadkill wrote:

I wonder if people in the US are looking at each other with these Trump picks and thinking wtf did we do?

It’s uncomfortable, Roady.
Will stay that way.
Wariness will reign.

Buyers remorse?

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Roadkill Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 11:00am
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wax24 wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

I wonder if people in the US are looking at each other with these Trump picks and thinking wtf did we do?

It’s uncomfortable, Roady.
Will stay that way.
Wariness will reign.

Buyers remorse?

No warranty and no returns available.

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Jelly Flater Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 11:09am

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Supafreak Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 11:33am
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hrK9S5YxJfE

Onwards Christian soldiers.

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Jelly Flater Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 11:39am

- hulk will be a proud boy
… everything is falling into place ;)

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AndyM Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 11:46am
wax24 wrote:
AndyM wrote:
wax24 wrote:
basesix wrote:

yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.

Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?

anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust off the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.

I appreciate your attitude, Base, and i would share it. (i do share it)

Last week, i received the first of what will be a trickle at least and a current at worst of human beings coming to our hospital, already on legal holds, triggered by the election.

I have already seen a shift in the internal dialogues of our less oriented population.

They used to be ramblings about being Elvis’s son or Queen Anne herself….. they have been increasingly focusing on the political bullshit we are fed, and that we feed ourselves.

The vulnerable among us simply cannot digest the bullshit and choke on it, unable to cope.

I have two volunteer community based gigs i have been a part of for years. I don’t like to talk about it and won’t.

I have a network of contacts.

I am bracing for a very busy few years. It’s just the beginning.

I’m up for it. (shrug)

Hi mate, I'm wondering how you define vulnerable or "less oriented population".

Hey AndyM… so, when assessing a human in medical crisis ya start with where they are at. The convention is Orientation x4. So the criteria is name, date/time, place, situation.
“Situation” is tricky as the goal is a certain greater awareness.
The convention is to ask who is President.
So, a patient that can only supply me with enough to warrant AOx2 is vulnerable
I, personally, believe ya can be vulnerable at AOx4, and the DSM-IV is always chasin, but that is me.

Hi Waxy, thanks for your reply.
A certain degree of what you said went over my head but I'll press on regardless - in any case, I had a quick google, and disorder classes presented by DSM-IV and DSM-5 shed some light.
So I'm wondering, where is this shift in internal dialogues coming from?
Is it cultural?
Does the media bear some responsibility?
Certainly, the sheer amount of information we have to deal with, whether bullshit or not, is off the charts and possibly unprecedented in human history.
Combined with this, a lot of people's coping skills seem to be quite poor, and playing the mental health card has become common - pre-teens now know that they can get away with poor behaviour by blaming stress or anxiety or something similar, and taking sick days due to mental issues is standard amongst a number of young crew (in their 20s) at one of my work places.
At my other work place, the mental issues are indeed very, very real.
So not withstanding those that have been sectioned under the mental health act here in Australia, I wonder how much of this apparent epidemic of anxiety is a result of social changes, changes in diagnosis and even just plain theatre in a world where life is to be made public at every opportunity.

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flollo Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 11:51am
AndyM wrote:
wax24 wrote:
AndyM wrote:
wax24 wrote:
basesix wrote:

yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.

Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?

anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust off the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.

I appreciate your attitude, Base, and i would share it. (i do share it)

Last week, i received the first of what will be a trickle at least and a current at worst of human beings coming to our hospital, already on legal holds, triggered by the election.

I have already seen a shift in the internal dialogues of our less oriented population.

They used to be ramblings about being Elvis’s son or Queen Anne herself….. they have been increasingly focusing on the political bullshit we are fed, and that we feed ourselves.

The vulnerable among us simply cannot digest the bullshit and choke on it, unable to cope.

I have two volunteer community based gigs i have been a part of for years. I don’t like to talk about it and won’t.

I have a network of contacts.

I am bracing for a very busy few years. It’s just the beginning.

I’m up for it. (shrug)

Hi mate, I'm wondering how you define vulnerable or "less oriented population".

Hey AndyM… so, when assessing a human in medical crisis ya start with where they are at. The convention is Orientation x4. So the criteria is name, date/time, place, situation.
“Situation” is tricky as the goal is a certain greater awareness.
The convention is to ask who is President.
So, a patient that can only supply me with enough to warrant AOx2 is vulnerable
I, personally, believe ya can be vulnerable at AOx4, and the DSM-IV is always chasin, but that is me.

Hi Waxy, thanks for your reply.
A certain degree of what you said went over my head but I'll press on regardless - in any case, I had a quick google, and disorder classes presented by DSM-IV and DSM-5 shed some light.
So I'm wondering, where is this shift in internal dialogues coming from?
Is it cultural?
Does the media bear some responsibility?
Certainly, the sheer amount of information we have to deal with, whether bullshit or not, is off the charts and possibly unprecedented in human history.
Combined with this, a lot of people's coping skills seem to be quite poor, and playing the mental health card has become common - pre-teens now know that they can get away with poor behaviour by blaming stress or anxiety or something similar, and taking sick days due to mental issues is standard amongst a number of young crew (in their 20s) at one of my work places.
At my other work place, the mental issues are indeed very, very real.
So not withstanding those that have been sectioned under the mental health act here in Australia, I wonder how much of this apparent epidemic of anxiety is a result of social changes, changes in diagnosis and even just plain theatre in a world where life is to be made public at every opportunity.

I'm reading 'The Anxious Generation' by Jonathan Haidt. Someone recommended it in the book thread. That explained a lot. It's a sobering reading that every parent must read.

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flollo Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:03pm

Tulsi is a terrible pick for that role. She has no experience in any sort of management. You can't put someone junior in charge of national intelligence.

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flollo Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:06pm
Roadkill wrote:

I wonder if people in the US are looking at each other with these Trump picks and thinking wtf did we do?

I don't think so. These are the people who won him the elections. He's hiring on a populist rather than a rational basis. So I would say that it's quite the opposite; Trump's voters will love the selection.

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burleigh Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:10pm
flollo wrote:

Tulsi is a terrible pick for that role. She has no experience in any sort of management. You can't put someone junior in charge of national intelligence.

Shouldn’t you lot be happy he’s not the misogynist you thought he is.

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andy-mac Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:13pm
flollo wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

I wonder if people in the US are looking at each other with these Trump picks and thinking wtf did we do?

I don't think so. These are the people who won him the elections. He's hiring on a populist rather than a rational basis. So I would say that it's quite the opposite; Trump's voters will love the selection.

Until the you know what hits the fan!

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flollo Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:14pm
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flollo wrote:

Tulsi is a terrible pick for that role. She has no experience in any sort of management. You can't put someone junior in charge of national intelligence.

Shouldn’t you lot be happy he’s not the misogynist you thought he is.

It has nothing to do with that. Politics aside, I'm talking about her experience and fit for the role. She has none. Susie Wiles on the other hand is very capable. I think his choice to put her into the chief of staff role is fantastic.

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Jelly Flater Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:16pm

… let donny speak for himself hahaha

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Roadkill Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:25pm
flollo wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

I wonder if people in the US are looking at each other with these Trump picks and thinking wtf did we do?

I don't think so. These are the people who won him the elections. He's hiring on a populist rather than a rational basis. So I would say that it's quite the opposite; Trump's voters will love the selection.

I think Trump had voters that knew exactly what he would do. However a huge tranche of his votes came from people who have nfi about nearly everything. Low socioeconomic with low education achievements that got suckered in with the lies and talk Trump used.

Same with Harris, some knew what they were voting for and some had nfi. That said more Trump voters had nfi and in the months ahead you will see many regretting how they voted.

All the above is simply imo.

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Hiccups Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:44pm
burleigh wrote:
flollo wrote:

Tulsi is a terrible pick for that role. She has no experience in any sort of management. You can't put someone junior in charge of national intelligence.

Shouldn’t you lot be happy he’s not the misogynist you thought he is.

Saying Trump is not a misogynist cos he has appointed women for his cabinet is like saying Eric Clapton's rant in '76 wasn't racist cos he plays the blues and covers Robert Johnson. I don't expect you to understand this btw.

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flollo Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:43pm

Holistically speaking, he picked a range of hard liners to send the 'border closed' message. You will really need to think twice before entering the US illegally under his administration. Just that perception alone will deter some people.

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AndyM Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:56pm
flollo wrote:
AndyM wrote:
wax24 wrote:
AndyM wrote:
wax24 wrote:
basesix wrote:

yeh, I'm a shrug and get the popcorn. totally get the reasons, the out of touch dem thing, the disenfranchised thing. the hold-your-nose, suck it and see thing. But the vile language and attitude of young blokes towards women (probably human beings i would have little in common with, particularly with regard to their online upbringing, porn exposure, polarised ideologies) is cause for concern. The evangelicals, Catholics, latinos (and latinas) that voted en masse for a perceived 'strong male' 'above the law' rogue, to take charge... dunno, something is well off.

Hope it works out for the globe. USA seems to fit in perfectly with power structures in 'those countries' ... russia, china, nth korea, nth africa and old school sth america (even the elon d.o.g.e. intentionally commie-propaganda-style posters), not france, germany, NZ/Aus, UK, or 'progressive' countries.. I guess that's the way they like it. Seems a step backwards in a lot of ways. is USA buying 5% of the worlds crypto over 4 years to inflate value for those that already own it? how will these corporate bastards 'change' the fundamental 'in their pockets-ness' of the current set up?

anyway, yeh, popcorn. got mowing to do. surf's up on the weekend again. summer in the air, spring breezes hanging around. nearly time to dust off the sandwich thread for the silly season; 6 weeks till crissy/newyear.

I appreciate your attitude, Base, and i would share it. (i do share it)

Last week, i received the first of what will be a trickle at least and a current at worst of human beings coming to our hospital, already on legal holds, triggered by the election.

I have already seen a shift in the internal dialogues of our less oriented population.

They used to be ramblings about being Elvis’s son or Queen Anne herself….. they have been increasingly focusing on the political bullshit we are fed, and that we feed ourselves.

The vulnerable among us simply cannot digest the bullshit and choke on it, unable to cope.

I have two volunteer community based gigs i have been a part of for years. I don’t like to talk about it and won’t.

I have a network of contacts.

I am bracing for a very busy few years. It’s just the beginning.

I’m up for it. (shrug)

Hi mate, I'm wondering how you define vulnerable or "less oriented population".

Hey AndyM… so, when assessing a human in medical crisis ya start with where they are at. The convention is Orientation x4. So the criteria is name, date/time, place, situation.
“Situation” is tricky as the goal is a certain greater awareness.
The convention is to ask who is President.
So, a patient that can only supply me with enough to warrant AOx2 is vulnerable
I, personally, believe ya can be vulnerable at AOx4, and the DSM-IV is always chasin, but that is me.

Hi Waxy, thanks for your reply.
A certain degree of what you said went over my head but I'll press on regardless - in any case, I had a quick google, and disorder classes presented by DSM-IV and DSM-5 shed some light.
So I'm wondering, where is this shift in internal dialogues coming from?
Is it cultural?
Does the media bear some responsibility?
Certainly, the sheer amount of information we have to deal with, whether bullshit or not, is off the charts and possibly unprecedented in human history.
Combined with this, a lot of people's coping skills seem to be quite poor, and playing the mental health card has become common - pre-teens now know that they can get away with poor behaviour by blaming stress or anxiety or something similar, and taking sick days due to mental issues is standard amongst a number of young crew (in their 20s) at one of my work places.
At my other work place, the mental issues are indeed very, very real.
So not withstanding those that have been sectioned under the mental health act here in Australia, I wonder how much of this apparent epidemic of anxiety is a result of social changes, changes in diagnosis and even just plain theatre in a world where life is to be made public at every opportunity.

I'm reading 'The Anxious Generation' by Jonathan Haidt. Someone recommended it in the book thread. That explained a lot. It's a sobering reading that every parent must read.

Yeah I think that even if his premise simplifies the tech issue, it's impossible to dismiss.

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TimTam Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 12:58pm
burleigh wrote:
flollo wrote:

Tulsi is a terrible pick for that role. She has no experience in any sort of management. You can't put someone junior in charge of national intelligence.

Shouldn’t you lot be happy he’s not the misogynist you thought he is.

Once a pussy grabber always a pussy grabber, especially in this morons case

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Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
flollo wrote:

Tulsi is a terrible pick for that role. She has no experience in any sort of management. You can't put someone junior in charge of national intelligence.

Shouldn’t you lot be happy he’s not the misogynist you thought he is.

Saying Trump is not a misogynist cos he has appointed women for his cabinet is like saying Eric Clapton's rant in '76 wasn't racist cos he plays the blues and covers Robert Johnson. I don't expect you to understand this btw.

What's the definition of a misogynist champ?

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Supafreak Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 1:14pm

“ What's the definition of a misogynist champ? “ well the answer is easy , Donald Trump is a misogynist champ .

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Supafreak Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 1:33pm

Bloody fake news , I told ya , it’s gonna be Alex Jones . https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-press-secretary-donald-trump-adm.... He’s currently having an auction , will Elon buy infowars ? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/future-alex-jones-infowars-hands-bi...

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Supafreak Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 1:42pm

It ain’t gonna happen but can you imagine the uproar if it did. https://www.newsweek.com/former-kamala-harris-aide-urges-joe-biden-resig...

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Hiccups Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 1:48pm
burleigh wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
burleigh wrote:
flollo wrote:

Tulsi is a terrible pick for that role. She has no experience in any sort of management. You can't put someone junior in charge of national intelligence.

Shouldn’t you lot be happy he’s not the misogynist you thought he is.

Saying Trump is not a misogynist cos he has appointed women for his cabinet is like saying Eric Clapton's rant in '76 wasn't racist cos he plays the blues and covers Robert Johnson. I don't expect you to understand this btw.

What's the definition of a misogynist champ?

Is your intention of asking questions like this, constantly, to people who know what things mean, unlike you, to rope them into some sort of "gotcha!" moment, fella? Cos let's be real here, it's a bit silly.

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It ain’t gonna happen but can you imagine the uproar if it did. https://www.newsweek.com/former-kamala-harris-aide-urges-joe-biden-resig...

I reckon Biden is pretty pissed off as he feels backstabbed. There is no chance of him stepping down.

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flollo wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

It ain’t gonna happen but can you imagine the uproar if it did. https://www.newsweek.com/former-kamala-harris-aide-urges-joe-biden-resig...

I reckon Biden is pretty pissed off as he feels backstabbed. There is no chance of him stepping down.

That would be the most token underserved thing ever...just because she is a black and a woman. Peak woke DEI.

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flollo wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

It ain’t gonna happen but can you imagine the uproar if it did. https://www.newsweek.com/former-kamala-harris-aide-urges-joe-biden-resig...

I reckon Biden is pretty pissed off as he feels backstabbed. There is no chance of him stepping down.

That’s assuming Biden understands what’s actually happened .

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Supafreak wrote:
flollo wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

It ain’t gonna happen but can you imagine the uproar if it did. https://www.newsweek.com/former-kamala-harris-aide-urges-joe-biden-resig...

I reckon Biden is pretty pissed off as he feels backstabbed. There is no chance of him stepping down.

That’s assuming Biden understands what’s actually happened .

Highly doubtful. Mashed potato for brains at this point.

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Supafreak wrote:
flollo wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

It ain’t gonna happen but can you imagine the uproar if it did. https://www.newsweek.com/former-kamala-harris-aide-urges-joe-biden-resig...

I reckon Biden is pretty pissed off as he feels backstabbed. There is no chance of him stepping down.

That’s assuming Biden understands what’s actually happened .

Haha. Doubtful

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 4:32pm

At the Sydney Morning Herald, Stephen Bartholomeusz explains some of the market moves in anticipation of Trump economics.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/rampant-us-dollar-sends-a-threat...

Bottom line: will add to interest rate pressures

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flollo Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 4:54pm

The article is behind a paywall and I don't have a subscription. But I'll add to this. The EU is currently in major panic. Tariffs on EU might even trigger a recession.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tariffs-europe-recession-fears-eco...

And we know what that means; cutting rates in the eurozone. And what happens when you cut rates in the eurozone? USD goes through the roof.

But will he do it? I reckon he will threaten with it but might be keen to give up in the exchange of increased spending on defence in the EU. Especially in the context of Ukraine, he might be able to decrease US spending significantly and let EU finance it if they want to. And if not, he will hit them with tariffs.

He did this with Mexico in 2019. Remeber this?

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1134240653926232064

Trump loves his tariffs. But he also loves to use them as a bargaining chip in negotiations. We'll see which ones will he actually implement and which ones will be used to get other deals signed.

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flollo Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 5:12pm

Just to add, Biden also imposed tariffs. EU is hitting China with 100% on EVs and Biden did the same. 25% on Chinese steel, 50% on Chinese semiconductors etc... Trump is just a continuation of these policies (although he will be more aggressive).

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/joe-biden-china-tariff-hikes-ev-battery...

Tariffs are a hot topic in the EU. Their auto industry is seriously threatened. All the talks on tariffs in the last 12 months laid the ground for Trump's message. I guess it was another thing that went his way in the lead up to the election.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 8:43pm

Here you go Burleigh JFK getting a wave with Kelly (and short interview with JFk & kelly)

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 8:43pm

And we all missed this one too.

"Alarm in Kamala Harris camp after influential surfer Kelly Slater pictured with Donald Trump advisor Tulsi Gabbard"

https://beachgrit.com/2024/09/alarm-in-kamala-harris-camp-after-influent...

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Supafreak Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 9:32pm
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And we all missed this one too.

"Alarm in Kamala Harris camp after influential surfer Kelly Slater pictured with Donald Trump advisor Tulsi Gabbard"

https://beachgrit.com/2024/09/alarm-in-kamala-harris-camp-after-influent...

From the comments in article from 2 different people………” I'm realizing with all his claims of rigged elections that Drumpf is actually Brazilian. “………“ Might as well be, he claims so much. “ …. That gave me a chuckle.

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Here you go Burleigh JFK getting a wave with Kelly (and short interview with JFk & kelly)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boiIAPbZUVo

How good is that!

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Supafreak Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 10:59pm

Well he’s given up now and got a gig out of it . https://x.com/dazzaat/status/1856798059931602997?s=46

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seeds Thursday, 14 Nov 2024 at 11:33pm

Don’t know what happened there

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thermalben Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 6:59am

Incredible news.

"American satirical news organisation The Onion has bought prominent conspiracy website Infowars at a bankruptcy auction, pledging to use the domain to raise awareness of gun violence prevention.

In a statement, The Onion chief executive Ben Collins said the organisation wanted to replace "Infowars' relentless barrage of disinformation" with the Onion's "relentless barrage of humour".

"The Onion is proud to acquire Infowars, and we look forward to continuing its storied tradition of scaring the site's users with lies until they fork over their cold, hard cash," he said.

The Onion claims to have 4.3 trillion daily readers."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-15/-the-onion-buys-alex-jones-infowa...

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Roadkill Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 11:13am

RFK the new health supremo.

Not sure how much he will accomplish but he might just do some good in regards to food additives and USA fake food sales. For all the talk of freedom to choose it seems individual responsibility plays no part in the how obese and unhealthy people are. That said...some of what the food corporations get away with is criminal.

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Hiccups Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 11:49am

Republican voters who pissed and moaned about drag storytime "grooming kids", which is silly, are now conspicuously quiet regarding Matt Gaetz, the sex trafficker of underage girls, being fingered by Trump for attorney general.

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TimTam Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 11:52am
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Well he’s given up now and got a gig out of it . https://x.com/dazzaat/status/1856798059931602997?s=46

Haha...that's the funniest part of the trump circus. Most of his minions secretly hate him and think he's a Hitler. Especially his VP. What a classic. What can go wrong?? Lot's of laughs a'comin.

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TimTam Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 11:58am
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Republican voters who pissed and moaned about drag storytime "grooming kids", which is silly, are now conspicuously quiet regarding Matt Gaetz, the sex trafficker of underage girls, being fingered by Trump for attorney general.

Hilarious

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TimTam Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 12:00pm
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RFK the new health supremo.

Not sure how much he will accomplish but he might just do some good in regards to food additives and USA fake food sales. For all the talk of freedom to choose it seems individual responsibility plays no part in the how obese and unhealthy people are. That said...some of what the food corporations get away with is criminal.

New polio and measles wave for Murica?

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flollo Friday, 15 Nov 2024 at 12:15pm
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RFK the new health supremo.

Not sure how much he will accomplish but he might just do some good in regards to food additives and USA fake food sales. For all the talk of freedom to choose it seems individual responsibility plays no part in the how obese and unhealthy people are. That said...some of what the food corporations get away with is criminal.

Yes, good point. It’s really bad. I don’t expect some huge improvements but even 10% forward is better than the current situation.