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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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flollo Thursday, 7 Nov 2024 at 10:47pm
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AndyM Thursday, 7 Nov 2024 at 10:59pm
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Here is a solid reason why I would have voted for trump:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCC8PgOP7f-/?igsh=dDY3N21qOXh4YzZq

You mean like this?

RFK: "On January 20, the Trump White House will advise all U.S​. water systems to remove fluoride from public water. Fluoride is an industrial waste associated with arthritis, bone fractures, bone cancer, IQ loss, neurodevelopmental disorders, and thyroid disease."

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1852812012478398923

Of course. Why on earth would you be against this?

If you're talking about returning to a "rich tradition of gold-standard, evidence-based science" then you have to accept that fluoridating public water is a positive.
There's no reputable scientific evidence that says it's not a positive.

There's other stuff that he says that sounds good on face value but he's already established himself as someone to be very wary of.

Are you wary because he’s talking health outcomes. His record with the environment and standing against polluting corporations is pretty good. Like winning court cases and getting better outcomes for the general public. Like a legal record. But hey, if you don’t understand what he’s trying to achieve then yeah, woo woo be scared.

“Are you wary because he’s talking health outcomes”

Que?

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flollo Thursday, 7 Nov 2024 at 11:10pm
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True, fuel is cheap from the international perspective. But if you're someone who was paying a $1 per gallon in early 2000s you get a shock when you see $5.50 per gallon in California

Two decades plus is a looong time though.

Can't recall specifics but I'm pretty sure the early 2000's were around 80-90c/L in Australia, now they're more than double that, and have spiked even higher in recent years.

Yeah, true. Maybe that’s not the best comparison. But regardless, they peaked anywhere between 70%-100% from just before Covid. Same happened in other countries. Blame was laid to the war in Ukraine. Media and politicians were unanimously spinning this narrative. Politicians in Australia easily blamed it on ‘external influences’ due to the Ukraine situation. And it worked for them. But they couldn’t really sell this in the US. Biden engaged in Ukraine with incredible eagerness and financial support. They were and still are directly involved. So, many laid fuel price increase blame directly to Biden instead of ‘external’, non controllable market drivers.

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loungelizard Thursday, 7 Nov 2024 at 11:51pm

for pure comedy gold I rate
1, Trump first win
2.Brexit
3. Voice referendum
4. Trump second win

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quadzilla Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 4:44am
loungelizard wrote:

for pure comedy gold I rate
1, Trump first win
2.Brexit
3. Voice referendum
4. Trump second win

5,Lanslide Coalition WIN ..2025!

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shoredump Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 5:38am
quadzilla wrote:
loungelizard wrote:

for pure comedy gold I rate
1, Trump first win
2.Brexit
3. Voice referendum
4. Trump second win

5,Lanslide Coalition WIN ..2025!

6. Scomo’s coal show n tell

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indo-dreaming Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 6:58am
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loungelizard wrote:

for pure comedy gold I rate
1, Trump first win
2.Brexit
3. Voice referendum
4. Trump second win

5,Lanslide Coalition WIN ..2025!

I wish

Nah its not going to happen, there hasnt been a one term government in Australia in something like 100 years and Dutton is not that popular, i think the chances of it happening are tiny.

But Labor losing the unlosable election in 2019 surely makes the list, that was a great moment.

Thats the good thing about the Swellnet bubble, it not the real world so our perceptions here get very distorted by a left wing majority and then bang, real world results happen.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 7:14am
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DCDQmI7Pjct/?igsh=MWk0bWMyM2E0OXZybQ==

Wow.

Yeah it was hard to see how the polls were going to correct the Trump under reporting.

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indo-dreaming wrote:
flollo wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCDQmI7Pjct/?igsh=MWk0bWMyM2E0OXZybQ==

Wow.

Yeah it was hard to see how the polls were going to correct the Trump under reporting.

He bet 'more than' $30 million and will reap 'almost' $50 million.

Bold gamble cos those odds weren't great.

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andy-mac Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 7:35am
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gotta look beyond trump v harris bullshit...

it's bigger than that

and the people losing their shit are caught up on a personality

disorder...

quote

"If the election outcome is as I expected, it should cause the large minority of the country who supported
@KamalaHarris
and predicted her victory to begin to question their sources of truth.

Half the country has believed that
@X
is filled with mis- and disinformation, and that they could only therefore rely on The NY Times, MSNBC, CNN and other mainstream media for their news. And they did.

If, however, you have been active on
@X
for the last year, you have known the truth days, weeks and often months before the facts appear in the MSM.

The MSM excerpted, clipped and cut to defame
@realDonaldTrump
while claiming that
@JoeBiden
was fit as a fiddle. Then when Biden’s polls collapsed,
@KamalaHarris
was anointed the candidate and her hagiography was written with glowing acclaim from the press. But this could not hold as she ducked the media and held fast to the teleprompter.

Citizen journalists with their phone cameras in hand captured the real Kamala forcing her to defend her record and her plans in more media appearances. It did not go well and the public demanded to learn more so
@KamalaHarris
had to risk more unscripted media.

The doom loop was underway with perhaps 60 Minutes as one of the more dramatic examples, even after CBS tried to save her, most glaringly by excerpting one answer to replace a word salad response to another. But the citizen journalists on
@X
quickly caught and outed this fraud and demanded a transcript.

As many who supported Kamala began to realize that they have been misled, they became open to Trump as an alternative, but they didn’t want to rely on the media to understand him because they did not want to be misled again.

They wanted to hear the candidate in his own words and that is where
@lexfridman
and
@joeroganhq
long form podcasts came to the rescue. When Kamala was offered the same opportunities to explain herself, she rejected them. And the voting public could only draw a negative inference.

When the story of this election is written, I expect it will be as much about how half of America woke up to the reality that they have been manipulated by the media. This should lead to an abandonment by many of the MSM as their primary source of information. It will push more people to
@X
, to podcasts and other empirical sources, and it will lead to a more informed public.

The other outcome I hope happens is the implosion of the Democratic Party. The Party lied to the American people about the cognitive health and fitness of the president. It prevented, threatened, litigated and otherwise eliminated the ability of other candidates for the primary to compete, to get on ballots, and to even participate in a debate. The Party and the administration used lawfare in an attempt to imprison, bankrupt or otherwise kill off Trump as a candidate. These acts are collectively grave threats to our democracy. With the highest irony in order to hide these acts, the Party accused the opposition candidate of being the grave threat to democracy.

The Democratic Party proved itself to be fundamentally undemocratic. It needs a complete reboot. The leadership should be thrown out and those responsible should apologize to the American people.

Honest Abe said it best:

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1854019674385547454

Reckon you are on the money there re media.
Same could be said about the reporting of a couple of wars happening in Europe and the ME.

MSM proven wrong again and again with what has been reported on other sources.

Once people lose trust of media, it ain't coming back.

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Mal Caithness1 Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 7:38am

Boom tish

sypkan wrote:

...he ain't blaming rednecks and losers!

think about that...

maybe half the crew on SM need to reassess their little blame game?

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velocityjohnno Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 7:39am
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velocityjohnno Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 7:42am
shoredump wrote:
quadzilla wrote:
loungelizard wrote:

for pure comedy gold I rate
1, Trump first win
2.Brexit
3. Voice referendum
4. Trump second win

5,Lanslide Coalition WIN ..2025!

6. Scomo’s coal show n tell

7. Scomo calling for covid enquiry and inadvertently getting us tarriff'd by China, and inadvertently severing the shift toward China of the 20 years previously

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Roadkill Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 7:43am

The meltdowns from USA Dems is over the top ridiculous. Crying and carrying on like spoilt children as they didn’t get their outcome.

Trump winning the popular vote pisses them off so much.

The so called celebs are cringy pathetic.

All the talk about Democracy only counts when it’s Democratic democracy.

Snowflakes galore

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velocityjohnno Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 7:44am
stunet wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
flollo wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCDQmI7Pjct/?igsh=MWk0bWMyM2E0OXZybQ==

Wow.

Yeah it was hard to see how the polls were going to correct the Trump under reporting.

He bet 'more than' $30 million and will reap 'almost' $50 million.

Bold gamble cos those odds weren't great.

Yep it can be dangerous for whales if they get spotted

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_JPMorgan_Chase_trading_loss

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velocityjohnno Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 8:00am
indo-dreaming wrote:

Thats the good thing about the Swellnet bubble, it not the real world so our perceptions here get very distorted by a left wing majority and then bang, real world results happen.

It's a bit like being back in the Uni student guild, but to their credit they have kept their hearts into middle age - for many of us economic reality, or striving for a family and it's interests, takes our perception closer to our immediate interests, and whole populations shift more conservative as they age. If you aren't socialist when you are young you don't have a heart - or some saying like that. The biggest surprise for me in this election is the difference in voting behaviour between young men and young women. I knew about Gen Z going conservative beforehand from our boys and their mates, just picking up on things here and there from about 2010 onward - it was a defined shift from millennials I know who were impressively social, could crowdsource the answer to any problem, connected to the point of distraction, followed their ideals, could get caught out when those ideals didn't match reality. In contrast the Gen Z kids were focussed (achievement based goals), could put the social media down to pick up tools, did the work with no fuss, didn't mind working alone/remote, and looked upon much of the culture wars with a strong wtf. I can report those I know are killing it, great jobs, great savings, great opportunity, socially happy and headed toward their goals. They are very grounded. If the US is similar, it's a massively different demographic.

(The way generations swing, who is expecting the next generation of kids to be wild free hippys?)

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indo-dreaming Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 8:18am

"The biggest surprise for me in this election is the difference in voting behaviour between young men and young women."

I think its really just about the perception (much rightfully so) of Trumps attitude towards women more than anything.

Although women do tend to be a little more left leaning, i dont think the divide would be that big if say De Santis or Vance was running in Trumps place, young family men who respect women and dont have that negative past with women that Trump does.

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flollo Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 8:32am
Roadkill wrote:

The meltdowns from USA Dems is over the top ridiculous. Crying and carrying on like spoilt children as they didn’t get their outcome.

Trump winning the popular vote pisses them off so much.

The so called celebs are cringy pathetic.

All the talk about Democracy only counts when it’s Democratic democracy.

Snowflakes galore

Especially the celebrities. I reckon that such overwhelming, over the top celeb support for Harris damaged her campaign. I don’t think it works at this day and age. It was perceived as establishment against the rest. Honestly, people are fed up with moral lecturing from these people. Being an actor doesn’t make you a good person. Quite the contrary, a lot of these personalities lead unstable lives; multiple divorces, substance abuses, psychological disorder you name it. Anyone thinking that Cardi B will somehow sway people away from Trump is a joke. Look at her written text, it’s an insult to grammar. Then her teleprompter dies and she doesn’t know what to say. And now she’s outraged and needs to ‘save the democracy’. What a bunch of nonsense.