Elon deserves his own thread

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indo-dreaming started the topic in Saturday, 15 Apr 2023 at 1:16pm

What you need to see

What the BBC want you to only see.

And everything

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flollo Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:10pm

Stupa, there’s a lot more coming and Starlink is not the only player. Satellite is the future of global broadband, that’s for sure.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:19pm
Supafreak wrote:

Timelapse of starlink satellites. Plenty of people voicing their concerns in the comments. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-dyqmKt6Nv/?igsh=ampxcGRvbWR4Z3Zq. https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites.html

Thats pretty insane.

lots of the comments are pretty scary through, scary in a OMFG you cant be serious way.

Crazy how small they are too.

"Each Starlink satellite measures approximately 2.8 meters (9.2 feet) in length and 1.4 meters (4.6 feet) in width, with a thickness of about 0.2 meters (0.7 feet). The weight of each satellite is roughly 260 kilograms (573 pounds)."

https://starlinkinstallationpros.com/understanding-the-size-of-starlink-...(573%20pounds).

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basesix Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:24pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

lots of the comments are pretty scary through, scary in a OMFG you cant be serious way.
Crazy how small they are too.

"Each Starlink satellite measures approximately 2.8 meters (9.2 feet) in length and 1.4 meters (4.6 feet) in width, with a thickness of about 0.2 meters (0.7 feet). The weight of each satellite is roughly 260 kilograms (573 pounds)."

I think this issue is that they are manned.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:47pm

What do you mean?

Satellites aren't manned?

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basesix Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:52pm

yeh, they are, and making them that small is unconscionable.

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Distracted Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 8:22am

Astronomers aren’t too impressed with all of Elons satellites blocking radio magnetic telescopes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4dnr8zemgo.amp

Crazy numbers of satellites though, article says Starlink currently has 6400 in orbit but there will be 100,000 by 2030.

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Pop Down Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 8:46am

Good point distracted .

The X Satellites look like a Shield that could stop a Telescope looking Out .

Maybe even block the Stars ?

They will also work in our benefit .

A Shield that MAY reduce Sunlight and help with Global Warming .

Might even stop a pesky big meteor smashing into us 2 .

Our Ring of Steel !

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GuySmiley Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 9:18am

Musk has apparently donated $70 million USD to Trump's campaign. Wow, what a man!

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Roadkill Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 10:15am

anyone wonder why Musk would donate $70 million USD?

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Supafreak Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 10:31am
Distracted wrote:

Astronomers aren’t too impressed with all of Elons satellites blocking radio magnetic telescopes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4dnr8zemgo.amp

Crazy numbers of satellites though, article says Starlink currently has 6400 in orbit but there will be 100,000 by 2030.

Did anyone read this article that I linked in my original post ? 5 year lifespan isn’t much , that’s alot of crap burning up when it enters the atmosphere. It won’t be shooting stars you’re looking at in the future, it will be satellites burning up . https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites.html. In a paper published in May 2021 in the journal Scientific Reports, Canadian researcher Aaron Boley said the aluminum the satellites are made of will produce aluminum oxide, also known as alumina, during burn-up. He warned that alumina is known to cause ozone depletion and could also alter the atmosphere's ability to reflect heat.

"Alumina reflects light at certain wavelengths and if you dump enough alumina into the atmosphere, you are going to create scattering and eventually change the albedo of the planet," Boley told Space.com.

That could lead to an out-of-control geoengineering experiment, a change in the Earth's climate balance. The effects of such alternations are currently unknown. …………We have 54 tonnes (60 tons) of meteoroid material coming in every day," Boley said. "With the first generation of Starlink, we can expect about 2 tonnes (2.2 tons) of dead satellites reentering Earth's atmosphere daily. But meteoroids are mostly rock, which is made of oxygen, magnesium and silicon. These satellites are mostly aluminum, which the meteoroids contain only in a very small amount, about 1%."

As the accumulation of those particles would increase over time, so would the intensity of the effects. It thus cannot be ruled out that over decades the pollution from burning megaconstellation satellites could lead to changes on a scale akin to what we are currently experiencing with fossil-fuel-induced climate change.

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Roadkill Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 11:10am
Supafreak wrote:
Distracted wrote:

Astronomers aren’t too impressed with all of Elons satellites blocking radio magnetic telescopes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4dnr8zemgo.amp

Crazy numbers of satellites though, article says Starlink currently has 6400 in orbit but there will be 100,000 by 2030.

Did anyone read this article that I linked in my original post ? 5 year lifespan isn’t much , that’s alot of crap burning up when it enters the atmosphere. It won’t be shooting stars you’re looking at in the future, it will be satellites burning up . https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites.html. In a paper published in May 2021 in the journal Scientific Reports, Canadian researcher Aaron Boley said the aluminum the satellites are made of will produce aluminum oxide, also known as alumina, during burn-up. He warned that alumina is known to cause ozone depletion and could also alter the atmosphere's ability to reflect heat.

"Alumina reflects light at certain wavelengths and if you dump enough alumina into the atmosphere, you are going to create scattering and eventually change the albedo of the planet," Boley told Space.com.

That could lead to an out-of-control geoengineering experiment, a change in the Earth's climate balance. The effects of such alternations are currently unknown. …………We have 54 tonnes (60 tons) of meteoroid material coming in every day," Boley said. "With the first generation of Starlink, we can expect about 2 tonnes (2.2 tons) of dead satellites reentering Earth's atmosphere daily. But meteoroids are mostly rock, which is made of oxygen, magnesium and silicon. These satellites are mostly aluminum, which the meteoroids contain only in a very small amount, about 1%."

As the accumulation of those particles would increase over time, so would the intensity of the effects. It thus cannot be ruled out that over decades the pollution from burning megaconstellation satellites could lead to changes on a scale akin to what we are currently experiencing with fossil-fuel-induced climate change.

we get 1 world...might as well destroy it.

Musk is supporting Trump as he wants access to the upper atmosphere to control all our satellite needs.

And people think Musk and Trump care? Trump has zero environmental care.

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Distracted Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 11:14am

[quote=Supafreak.
Did anyone read this article that I linked in my original post ? 5uote]
Sorry Supa, missed that one. That’s a fascinating article. Potentially a lot of pollution associated with those satellites, visual, radio plus chemical .

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 6:00pm

Five years, wow that isn't long.

It's just like anything in life there are trade offs, the internet service itself also has a lot of positives for people in areas of the world where phone or internet access is poor.

$70 million to Trumps campaign to us is big money, but depending on who or which sources you believe he earns 6 to 10 million a day.