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unreal @RK. recorded a week before FZ released the below song..
seems to be people's next online stop after the Steve Allen clip:
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(Not sure the best place to post this, so i might post again in another thread)
My friend’s band, Pat Todd and the Rankoutsiders, will be playing shows in Australia soon. Pat was in the great band The Lazy Cowgirls, and is friends and toured with The Cosmic Psychos.
Here are the tour dates:
VICTORIAN TOUR 2024
• November 6 PBS Live To Air
• November 7 Bendigo Trash Cult
• November 8 Collingwood The Tote Upstairs
• November 9 Geelong River Rocks Barwon Club Hotel
• November 10 St. Kilda St. Kilda Bowls Club
• November 11 Melbourne Last Chance Rock n Roll Bar
^ good stuff @TheWho, back in January @Kook-Man gave us a heads-up about this tour!
Kook-Man2001 wrote:basesix wrote:...Pat Todd was glorious, what a voice and songwriter. Authentic as they come. Stories are getting around of his Geelong River Rocks gig: the whole crowd spellbound, many tattooed punks getting teary.. I can see why. Cheers again, @GreenJam
@basesix can vouch for the River Rocks gig. It was incredible and very emotional. Had hoped to make it over to Ballarat on the Sunday for his arvo gig but things didn't pan out so couldn't make it.
Pat Todd is without a doubt one of the most underrated songwriters of our time. Everything the Lazy Cowgirls did was amazing and he continues churn out great records to this day.
He has promised to return this year with the Rank Outsiders...definitely not one to be missed.
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Thanks! Good to know. You're right that this time the full band will be playing. They have been on fire the past few times I’ve seen them. I would probably imagine Cosmic Psychos guys might also play a couple of these shows.
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tunes, indeed.
I feel like beats happenings’ red head walking off subpop's 'the grunge years' (not to mention James Reyne’s ’88 track) groomed me in ’91 to find unnatural enjoyment in Celibate Rifles positively pastoral Heaven on a Stick CD. That we felt baritone gurgling had survived a bit (via stranglers skin deep, iggy candy, etc) keeping the charts a bit less fakey (is it a modern birthday party??), we allowed acts like Crash Test Dummies into the fray. Or perhaps that was predestined. What a weird time.
^ Tee Vee Repairman VERY well done; only ones/buzzcocks renderings, but importantly the fresh today energy required to pull that off. Love to know what equipment they have up their retro cave.
(don't forget to tune into 3D radio while in SA @blackers, again like most things in SA, like vic's RRR but 2' smaller (cultural expectations-wise, the benefit being smaller crowds : )
^ Taras (RIP) wine guru with a bit of live kranktus Margaret River, and Pete the Stud in his fat suit : o . And soo 3D that a couple of radio chicks feel it is normal for one to be on a bar stool, and one on a milking stool while addressing a camera. love it. Pete is in Cull with Jeff Stephens from the Mice, Jeff works quite often at Big Star records, Magill Rd Norwood. He's a quiet soul.
modern ct dummies, getting a bit hallelujah-esque,
The reunion may be over.
^ apparently dave and pez have been at each other ever since the trump/harris debate..
Went to a pleasant gig last night. Folky and country tinge.
Great harmonies and slick acoustic guitar.
Blackers that second one is a real toe tapper.
B6 I’m sure it was just a little problem with the lighting.
Hey b6, first up thanks for the recommendations, looking forward to the trip but may be missing the big town this time, more dust and sand in the plans. That “It came from nothing “ vid was fun. Some great music, like most places it is awesome when like minds spawn something new and feed off each other to grow into (relative) greatness.
And yes an almost ludicrous baritone is a thing of wonder, the only notes I can even get near.
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Possibly should go in the 'interesting things' thread, but here's Rick Beato asking where all the bands have gone. Of the top 400 monthly listens on Spotify the number of bands created in the last ten years is astronomically low compared to solo artists.
Sorta makes sense when Rick explains it but an interesting development nonetheless.
stunet wrote:Possibly should go in the 'interesting things' thread, but here's Rick Beato asking where all the bands have gone. Of the top 400 monthly listens on Spotify the number of bands created in the last ten years is astronomically low compared to solo artists.
Sorta makes sense when Rick explains it but an interesting development nonetheless.
Will have to watch it later, but one possible reason that immediately springs to mind is the impact of the reality show sing-offs such as The Voice, X-factor type schlock. Histrionics and bombastic performances get celebrated. Get famous, make $.
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blackers wrote:stunet wrote:Possibly should go in the 'interesting things' thread, but here's Rick Beato asking where all the bands have gone. Of the top 400 monthly listens on Spotify the number of bands created in the last ten years is astronomically low compared to solo artists.
Sorta makes sense when Rick explains it but an interesting development nonetheless.
Will have to watch it later, but one possible reason that immediately springs to mind is the impact of the reality show sing-offs such as The Voice, X-factor type schlock. Histrionics and bombastic performances get celebrated. Get famous, make $.
Actually that's not one of the reasons Rick mentions, but it makes complete sense.
Add it to the list.
Rick Beato is good value, I like the way he breaks things down, from classic songs to the state of modern music and the industry.
And yeah, the state of modern music is a worry, it's become simpler, more homogeneous and more disposable.
X2 Andy.
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^ so sigma, tots gains mac aura.. lrrahh!
needed to remind myself what this piece of polyester fluff was:
stunet wrote:Possibly should go in the 'interesting things' thread, but here's Rick Beato asking where all the bands have gone. Of the top 400 monthly listens on Spotify the number of bands created in the last ten years is astronomically low compared to solo artists.
Sorta makes sense when Rick explains it but an interesting development nonetheless.
I like rick beato, mainly for his don henley hatred, but also cos he is thoughtful and thorough. But I feel like he comes to the same conclusions I do, from an exactly opposite position. which means we see the world the same, but are disturbed by different aspects of it.
my fave era of music is when the boomers as teenies had the cash to allow the most prolific instant-music to fall from the sky and its fringe nasties, I grew up with the next wave as a boomer kid amid alt-festival nirvana, it has dissipated as youth waves have become mellower and tech has allowed everyone to see everything all at once.
performers and songwriters were distinct entities until the mid 60s (for the most part).
kinda weird to cling to industries like rick does, who cares? I see live young bands all the time, and teens discovering proto-punk, it's all out there, support what you like.
feels a little WSL to agonise about bands going off-grid. or just fucking around for fun.
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".... tech has allowed everyone to see everything all at once....
.....kinda weird to cling to industries like rick does, who cares? I see live young bands all the time, and teens discovering proto-punk, it's all out there, support what you like."
Nice post. Agree wholeheartedly. Plenty of music out there, self-produced and distributed, lots of gigging entities. I guess Beato was and still is part of the industry - an industry that has forever tried to control and direct tastes and artists for the lucre. Jelly nailed it with his prescient Norma Tanega clip up the page, well Norma nailed it Jelly just shared. The youth will continue to surprise and rebel against the norm, it will happen again. Its the tech changes that will make it interesting, beyond seeing everything at once.
Perhaps unknowingly, Beato does a lot of commentary on culture change.
For him it's comparing how things are now to how they were then, largely using Spotify as statistical database - which is not wholly dissimilar to how the authors of Freakonomics used stats to find patterns in society.
Rather than judge the collapse of the music industry perhaps he should take a step back, still use the compare and contrast method, but also spend some time looking at the new things that are happening.
Bigger doesn't always mean better.
I've always been perplexed at Spotify's statistics.
Mainly because it's accretionary - that is, the numbers will forever grow. So, old music (from a certain time period onwards, that is) will always have a head start on new music, if you're simply looking at the number of times a song has been played.
But also because the actual data doesn't tell you much about the band or its audience.
Take for example Radiohead. I didn't like Pablo Honey much, and wasn't a fan of the big single Creep at all. But they've been one of my favourite bands since they released The Bends (In Rainbows is a masterpiece).
Yet, Creep is their most played song on Spotify, which has received more than twice the number of plays of their #2 song, and more than three times their #3 song (and so on).
Yet, it's the one song that - in my view - doesn't represent the band at all.
So who is listening to Creep? Is there a worldwide network of karaoke bars disproportionally racking up the counts? Or, are my views that of an outsider, and the reality is that everyone else loves the song?
Creep's impressive statistics also belie its age, relative to these stats - the song was released thirty two years ago in 1992, but Spotify didn't start until 2006, and arguably only became the dominant streaming App in the last decade or so (15 million users in 2012, then 60 million users in 2014, then 433 million users in 2022). So most of Creep's Spotify numbers would have been generated in the most recent third of its lifespan.
Creep will be highly rotated in a crossover pop genre algorithm of Spotify auto play songs that their other songs aren’t.
"So who is listening to Creep? Is there a worldwide network of karaoke bars disproportionally racking up the counts?", haha! I want a t-shirt that says "..so who is listening to Creep?"
lostdoggy wrote:Creep will be highly rotated in a crossover pop genre algorithm of Spotify auto play songs that their other songs aren’t.
Sure. But what does that mean? The algorithm chooses who's successful and who's not?
I mean, if it came along in my playlist, I'd jump to the next song - but people must either listen to it (because they like it) or because they can't be bothered changing.
basesix wrote:"So who is listening to Creep? Is there a worldwide network of karaoke bars disproportionally racking up the counts?", haha! I want a t-shirt that says "..so who is listening to Creep?"
I was in Adelaide for a birthday on the weekend, and after the main event was over, we ended up at a karaoke bar until the wee hours of Sunday morning. First time I've ever been to one (not my kinda thing, and I successfully resisted significant forces to get me on stage), but holy shit - what a scene it was! Some punters were taking it extremely seriously.
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thermalben wrote:So who is listening to Creep? Is there a worldwide network of karaoke bars disproportionally racking up the counts? Or, are my views that of an outsider, and the reality is that everyone else loves the song?
Radiohead for me are a weird band, some songs i rate as all time 9 out of 10 songs maybe even 10s like Paranoid android, Karma police, Just and yes Creep.
Other songs i use to enjoy like Fake plastic trees, High and dry, No surprises but its like ive heard them just one too many times.
I own Ok Computer and Pablo honey, but i just cant get into them as albums, when i see list rating OK Computer as one of the best albums of all time or even the 90s, im baffled i just find it as an album totally overrated and even hard to listen too depressing and kind of grating.
As for Creep i honestly just thought it was one of those rare songs that everyone loves it's just such an emotive song timeless but also dripping in nostalgia, if i see it coming up in a playlist im tempted to skip it just because ive heard it so many times, but when i dont skip it i never regret it.
And yeah if im going to put a Radiohead song in a playlist its going to either be Creep or Paranoid android, im betting there is just a shit load of people like me that dont really like Radiohead as a band but still dig Creep.
Bens Tunesmiths Creep conference summons for a swellnet drum circle intervention.
Hodad Goldie punk chapter calls on truebluebasher
To Drum up the answer you seek about that ugly Creep
Its a popular Second Hand Song so this shouldn't take long.
That made ya think & here's yer link...
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The sacred cow says do ya see it now.
Here's the thing...it's so easy to sing
All sound equally bad and it will drive you mad.
With 250 Creep Cover bands, you'll need to grow 250 Hands!
Who's the creep now?
Said : "WE ARE THE CREEPS!"
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Homemade, solo performance. Ain't no kid.
You lost your father in 2021. What has the experience of losing him been like?
(Michael Franti) It was my biological father who passed away. We didn’t meet until I was 22 and I really only spent time with him a handful of times. When I met him, it wasn’t like, “Oh, my gosh, my long-lost son!” He used to introduce me as his “friend”, which was very painful for me. So when he passed away, I had a lot of mixed emotions.
Music was one of the things that really helped me to get through it. After a couple years of not experiencing live music, I saw this great Indonesian band called the Munchies. They were playing with such passion. At a certain point, I threw my hands in the air, closed my eyes and just started to cry, cry, cry as all these amazing memories – and not-so-amazing memories – came up of my dad. I danced and sweated and cried and shouted for an hour. Afterwards, I felt better.
Alright, time for some discussion on what yr all listening too. My iTunes inventory is getting a little stale so I'm up for some inspiration.
Currently loving The Drones' album "Havilah".. incredible songwriting and some of the best recorded guitars and drum I've heard in a long time. I'm a little late to the party with this album but it's on high rotation at the moment and will probably stay there a while. I've seen these guys live once (Fowlers, Adelaide) and fortunately they're incredible on stage too. Can't wait to see them again.