Kelly Slater To Narrate Julian Assange Documentary

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Swellnet Dispatch

"He [Assange] put out information people didn't want being put out but it was all truthful and I don't know how you fault a guy for putting out the truth."

So said Kelly Slater in an Instagram video back in March. The statement caught the attention of Kym Staton, producer and director of an upcoming film on Julian Assange. Originally titled 'Free The Truth: Free Assange', the working title is now 'The Trust Fall' though the subject matter remains the same.

"The main aim of this film is to gather more support for Julian's freedom. At its core, this is a political case and a mass public outcry is needed in order to pressure US, UK, and Australian politicians to do the right thing and release him."

"The uniqueness of this film...is that it will focus on the big 'why' of the situation."

Regarding the inclusion of Kelly Slater, Staton recently wrote:

"Having a professional surfer sportsperson may seem like a strange choice for a political film, however please bear in mind that this film aims to educate a very wide audience about the important issues surrounding the Assange predicament, and one of the best ways to reach a wider audience is through role models and people with a large following and fan base who might otherwise never take the time to watch a political film."

"So this is a strategic move and somewhat of a marketing move to have the involvement of people from a variety of walks of life."

To find out more, or to donate to the film's GoFundMe account, click here.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:08am

Go smelly gator ;)
Literally putting his voice to something of actual value…
- and, seemingly, without regard to personal or monetary reward.

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:34am

Not a fan of Assange or any other Traitors to Australia.
Boo Kelly !

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memlasurf Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:13am

?

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:32am

He publicly released sensitive information about under cover operations and personnel re our Allies.
Thats treason every day of the week.

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Stephen Allen Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:47am

Not being truthful with Australian citizens is far more treacherous.

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:32pm

Not when its given over to ignorant bleeding heart lefties

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:12pm

Gowsa. Your opinion, fine.

What a wowser, another Australian, American or English government vigilante. They are all coming out of the woodwork this year, (must have a relative working at the ATO or Fed.Police)

Julian Assange and followers simply try to and most times succeed in exposing the truth or some close version of it.

Explain what is wrong with that in this deceitful, lying era of fake everything (tits, lips, eyelashes, id, passports, AI, email fraud and all those shit social media sites (not this one) fake profiles and a world today that DOES really resemble The Barbie Movie etc.

Do you really think for example that Australia cares about you ? I doubt it.

Please explain to me the very reason/s why he should be persecuted, for what telling the truth.

Globally, we’ve forgotten how to tell the truth, it’s actually enlightening to hear the truth and nothing but the truth.

Telling the truth will set you free, we all know this because we have all lied at some stage in our lives.

Of course what I’m writing is the truth because i read it in a Murdoch publication, NOT. !!!!! AW

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:11pm

Its not that he told the truth
He told EVERYTHING and ANYTHING
He put peoples lives in danger.
Good Journalists now when to hold back on information if it can jeopardise life and military operations
He just published anything classified regardless of the consequences. He was a little boy telling dirty secrets. Even the lefty news (Fairfax and ABC) concede this.

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:18pm

Gowsa, oh, spare me the misery you are suffering. Did you have a few model military aircraft as a young kid ? Or was mum or dad in the Aust.Defence Force., its gotta be one or the other or maybe both.

Don’t want those Reds or Commos coming to OZ, look under your bed tonight, take your Swiss Army pocket knife with you before you nod off. AW

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:38pm

AW. Spot on ;)

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mikehunt207 Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 5:34pm

I made plenty of those model aeroplanes as a kid , has a grandfather fought in New Guinea also , not sure how either of those things qualify one as a crackpot AW?

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 6:14pm

Mikehunt207 Hi. At no stage did i state that Bowsa was a crackpot, you said that not me.
I merely picked up on his theme of being very loyal and vigilant to Australia’s security and military, of which im definitely not, if you’ve been following this thread closely, theres been plenty of discussion involving Australia’s involvement in unnecessary wars of which we rightly had no business to be involved with..
I remember Tony Blair being grilled in the British Courts and parliament about GBR being involved in the hunt with John Howard, George Bush for WMD , he had to admit that they didn’t really exist, therefore i don’t trust anything involving the military, just look at the annual problems that are broadcast on media, list is exhaustive, recent BRS court action to top it off.

Military is a law unto itself, here and in Pakistan, Burma etc.

You played with model planes as a youngster , your grandfather killed people in Papua New Guinea.

i played with birds, plants and nailbag and hammer, building stuff. I have a famous relative who was a plant collector in Papua New Guinea, so there you are, different horses for courses,

Lastly, i cant take anyone serious with a derogatory moniker, thats probably offensive to any female subscriber who reads these posts, also you’ve plagiarised that name from the movie Porky’s.

Wrapping up, , Id say Bowsa gave as good as he got, in fact he showed his full mettle, but without a jacket !!! A bit of fun, lighten up..AW

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frog Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:48pm

Putting lives in danger is just the day to business of the many wayward geopolitical military and other misadventures of the US that litter recent history. Millions have died in their endless wars. Weigh that against handuls of spooks being put in danger from a leak being published.

Which weighs higher in your view? Is one spook's life worth more than say 10,000 other lives?

Far more danger to us all grows in the dark of secrecy than in the sunlight of exposure.

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:57pm

Frog. Hi.

‘Far more danger to us all grows in the dark of secrecy than in the sunlight of exposure ‘

I like your last paragraph, i might plagiarise it at some stage.

Are you talking about Psilocybin fungi like Blue Meanies and Gold Tops ? A bit of fun. AW

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frog Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:24pm

Or, an occasional sprinkling of Death Caps mixed in the seemingly wholesome beef stoganoff of the "promoting democracy and freedom" recipe.

Covert operations and tens of thousands of spooks are not always saving the world. Mostly they work to benefit commercial interests at micro and macro levels. Often, they must just create mischief to keep busy and keep their jobs. Imagine reporting "All seems well, I am doing nothing and letting the country just get on with their lives"....

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:50pm

Gowsa. My opinion.

Australia’s involvement in unnecessary wars and new military agreements definitely jeopardises our lives from a different perspective to yours. Good banter. AW

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Agitator Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 7:03pm

Yeah we better keep a good military/government PSYOP from the people eh...can't have them knowing the truth about how hard they are going to be FUCKED OVER!!!

The truth doesn't mind being questioned...but a lie sure does....good on Assange for telling the truth he had more principals and morals than the vast majority of other so called journalists.

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Stephen Allen Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 8:07pm

Substantiate your claim with specific facts that he published "anything" and "put peoples lives in danger".

Irrespective of your ad hominen attacks, the US of A and its allies including Australia contemptuously and systemically commit war crimes, abuse humanity, overthrow foreign governments, interfere in elections, finance, arm and train death squads, rape and torture, lie, steal, spy and cheat, napalm nations into oblivion, bomb wedding parties, walk away from lands replete with their depleted uranium... In the face of this insidious perdition, the blind righteous have as us believe that treachery is the crime that must be punished.

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booman Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 11:25am

I seem to remember reading that many journalists all over the world colabed on the information to make sure this wasn't the case. The Guardian Newspaper, Der Spiegel, the New York Times for example.

Politics huh! :-0 Going surfing.

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:15pm

Gowza you sound like my 80 year old racist mother who lives and breathes Sky News - it's not pretty. I'm pretty middle of the road myself, but give me a bleeding heart leftie any day to anyone who's ignorant argument is based on "bleeding heart lefties".

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:35pm

I draw the line at traitors.
I love my Country and the democratic values it up holds.
Including Free speech such as this forum.

Not sure how opposing the release of sensitive Military Information can be called racist, but expect nothing short of you lefties falling back on that old chestnut as a defence. If you dont agree with woke lefties then your a racist. You argue like women you bleeding hearts. All emotion, no logic.

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:36pm

I draw the line at traitors.
I love my Country and the democratic values it up holds.
Including Free speech such as this forum.

Not sure how opposing the release of sensitive Military Information can be called racist, but expect nothing short of you lefties falling back on that old chestnut as a defence. If you dont agree with woke lefties then your a racist. You argue like women you bleeding hearts. All emotion, no logic

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:44pm

Haha.
Logic ? Get the fark outta here ;)

…‘sensitive Military Information’ ?
- any reason you used capitals there. To emphasise its Imagined importance ?

No leftie here. You are a traitor to decency and democratic values.
Explain what exactly was democratic about the Iraq war ? …Go on ;)
Tell us about the ‘democratic values’ it held ?

Wowsa
- even posted that dribble twice with your emotional trigger finger ;)

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:51pm

Sure did Jelly

PS: I dont believe the Iraq war was just at the time and never did.
Nor was the vietnam war.

I do believe that deliberately and recklessly endangering the lives of your fellow countrymen and allies is Treason 101.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:08pm

Fair enough.

I guess your belief (and logic) then extends to, and implicates, the western governments and their leaders that deliberately and recklessly endangered the lives of their fellow countrymen and allies… by sending them to participate in an illegal war as a result of deceptive and bogus claims ;)

- deliberate & reckless…

So they are traitors, and remain unpunished to this very day.
That is the big piece of the puzzle that seems to keep being missed / ignored.

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:25pm

Then vote them out!
Speak with your local member.

A democracy doesnt always yield the best results.
In the case of the Iraq war, democracy failed miserably on this one.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:35pm

Um. Ok.
Bit late for the ‘vote them out’ idea…

- and it’s unlikely I’ll be taking any of your advice ;)

… but, true, democracy doesn’t always yield the best results and it did fail miserably in the case of the Iraq war.

- same as Afghanistan… and Syria… and etc etc etc ;)

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soggydog Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 9:53am

How can an Australian citizen be charged with treason in the United States.

Assange did actually redact some names and also attempt to work with the US state department on what was released.

Also, Chelsea Manning who Assange received the files from us now free. No treason charge.

But hey, keep cheering for the empire while they firmly have their boot on Australia’s neck.

Grow a brain Gowsa.

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:08pm

Gowsa.
Please be careful with what you exclaim. Ive reread every comment to date. Nobody but you has mentioned the word racism or racist since the thread started, we don’t want a valid topic of discussion being hijacked by playing that ‘card’. Just good banter .AW

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:22pm

I agree , however Gary G 1412 likened my comments to his racist 80 year old Grand mother
I simply responded.

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:46pm

Gowsa. No worries.

Well GaryG1412 is a very naughty boy (or girl, who knows these days, everything is FAKE and no one tells the TRUTH) and so is the messiah.

Let’s dish out some punishment to him.

Shall we, push bamboo up under his fingernails, deprive him of sleep or line him up in front of a military firing squad a bit like what the secretive BRS may have done, ? AW

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 3:06pm

Nah - Just make him watch the documentary.
Thats punishment enough
BaHahaha !

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:28pm

Apologies Gowza - I wasn't referring to it as being racist. Just a general comparison to the kinds of ignorant people who sound like a parrot when referring to "bleeding heart lefties" being blamed for their bit in life. Sometimes it's not as simple as a left/right argument. There's always two sides to a story, so make sure you consider both before mouthing off and booing Kelly Slater, who I would bet has had much more of a thought process on this issue than you have.

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:36pm

How would a bloke that rides a fiberglass surfboard really well have a better view on world politics and the impact of JA's actions......than anyone else ?
Why not get Shaq's opinions in there aswell.
He's good with a basketball so must know heaps about the world.

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:45pm

Well in that redundant argument I'd sooner put my money on a Kelly Slater that rides a fibreglass surfboard than a Tony Abbott that rides a fibreglass surfboard. Both surfers that have their views on world politics, just one a bit better than the other I reckon.

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Gowsa Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 3:09pm

Your right Gary...

Ones a Rhodes scholar, Volunteer Firefighter, lifesaver and former Prime Minister actually involved in International Affairs
The other once dated Pamela Anderson !

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 4:01pm

Oh wowsa ;)

Nice try… but I gotta agree with the Pamela quip, that’s embarrassing.
However, the tony credentials are kinda like saying ben roberts smith’s accolades and medals are legitimate or ‘credible’…

Imagine if abbott had volunteered his firefighting ‘skills’ to help douse the Iraqi homes as they burnt to the ground and were obliterated by ‘smart’ bombs ;)
- gives a different meaning to the label of a lifesaver… not sure he can really be called that … it’s pretty offensive to, um, lifesavers.

- and you did conveniently leave out the the most glaring and understated title of our former pm… and that is ‘war criminal’…
That’s the big one missing from his cv.

But yeah, carry on ;)

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bbbird Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 9:52pm

After assuming office, the (Tony) Abbott government implemented Operation Sovereign Borders in an effort to halt illegal maritime arrivals.[7]
( lock up poor war refugees: & pay $500M/year to private security Companies; including some that are offshore = pay no tax ) *
It abolished several reforms enacted by the preceding government, including the Minerals Resource Rent Tax and Australia's carbon pricing scheme.[8][9]
( More cheap coal, gas, iron & rare minerals for China / SE Asia )
His government aimed to rein in a federal budget deficit that reached A$48.5 billion by June 2014,[10] and established the National Commission of Audit to advise on restoring the federal budget to surplus.
(No investigation of Scomo $billions of Covid payments to Multinationals & big business)
Abbott instituted the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption...
In international affairs, Abbott concluded free trade agreements with China, Japan and South Korea.
References (except notes in brackets)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Abbott
P.S. Donate to wikipedia as a non profit organisation that is reviewed during and after publication
* https://www.kaldorcentre.unsw.edu.au/publication/cost-australias-asylum-...
* https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parlia...
* https://www.asyluminsight.com/private-contractors

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Jelly Flater Wednesday, 30 Aug 2023 at 10:21am

;)

https://m.

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Reform Thursday, 31 Aug 2023 at 7:29am

Julia duly denounced Julian ;)

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Stephen Allen Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 8:09pm

Who are these so called woke lefties, could you please be specific and please do not say the ABC or the SMH.

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memlasurf Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 10:40am

They reside under your bed and are coloured either red or yellow.

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Stephen Allen Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 2:46pm

This post should be reported under the Racial Discrimination Act.

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rothmanisatool Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 9:00am

gowsa sometimes in an age of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. the claims of traitor and lives in danger have all been disproved by numerous sources. a few people have always stood up to tyranny, they inspire us to be braver, for most of us are cowards as we saw in the last 3 years. im interested in your views on Ben Roberts Smith. is he a traitor or hero?

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Gowsa Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 10:09am

In my day we just called them Dobbers.
Not a fan of BRS

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rothmanisatool Friday, 25 Aug 2023 at 7:48am

do you consider john howard a traitor. he was complicit in the death of over a million iraqis for WMDs that never existed? or robert mcnamara for claiming gulf of tonkin incident which lead us into vietnam even though it never happened. everything is a rich mans trick gowsa. its easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled. we are all pawns ruled by psychopaths who seem to traffick children.

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rothmanisatool Friday, 25 Aug 2023 at 7:45am

as i said before. he is not a traitor and no evidence he placed any lives in danger. all debunked by numerous sources over many years. we wrote the geneva convention for a reason. US soldiers broke the rules of war and gunned down iraqi journalists with a gunship. its that simple. would you lock up seymour hersch for recently for seemingly proving americans blew up nordstream 2?

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etarip Sunday, 27 Aug 2023 at 11:39am

Seymour Hersh’s take on the Nordstream has been comprehensively debunked.

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soggydog Wednesday, 30 Aug 2023 at 10:10am

By who?

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Stephen Allen Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 4:22pm

Or right wing nut cases.

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BarbB Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 1:46pm

Do you realize how confused you are? Australian Law on treason previously literally said aiding "Al Qaeda" is treason. What Assange did was leak the email from Jake Sullivan to Hillary Clinton that said: "'al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria". The war in Syria was not a civil war. It was a US covert war where Al Qaeda & ISIS did the ground fighting. This is treason. Btw, Kelly is of Syrian origin therefore this makes Kelly's role even more fitting.

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:01pm

@Gowsa

+1

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soggydog Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 9:56am

Surprise surprise surprise. Indo luuurves a bit of fascism.

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BarbB Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 1:56pm

keep dreaming brother. Better to surf Indo rather than be a useful idiot. The reality of the world is not for the misinformed. Remember Al Qaeda supposedly did the Bali Bombing & 9/11? Assange revealed Hillary Clinton was supporting Al Qaeda in Syria. If you get blown up in Indo by terrorists, if you are still alive, maybe you can wake up from your dreaming.

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etarip Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 8:55pm

That’s ‘an’ interpretation.

My reading is that it’s more of an observation about the awkwardness of the alignment of (some) of AQ / ISIS objectives - overthrow of the Assad regime - with those of the US. More of a ‘strange bedfellows’ comment than an acknowledgement of support for them.

Absolute foreign policy rockshow. Anyway. Back to St Julian.

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AndyM Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:12pm

I think you need to reconsider who "Australia" is.

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wax-on-danielson Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 2:19pm

Just so I’m following, is a lefty your left nut? If so what does woke mean?

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frog Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:51am

Gutsy move.

Is the Wozzle very supportive of their iconic favourite stepping outside the safe zone? Future wild cards at risk? Or will Turps now begin to drop positive references to the other Julian (who did surf I think) in future commentary? Tyler to do new Free Jullian spray message on surfboard? Maybe not.

Hard to cancel Kelly - although some will try.

The leaker has been pardoned. Julian Assange, the journalist who published the leaks, doing what jpurnalists are supposed to do, is still in jail. The Guardian who also published them doing business as usual. Not right.

Albo could have said release Julian and I will buy those bloody expensive subs but no, he just signed.

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stunet Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:57am

Been wondering about this. The Woz and their execs are firmly ensconced in the California Democrat set and all that comes with it; prepared to back the D, E and I stuff as it moves from the fringe to the norm.

But how far do those human rights extend? And at what point do they push up against govt agendas?

Till JA becomes a fashionable cause that doesn't jeopardise the Wozzle's progressive cachet (all those awards look just super on LinkedIn), then I'd say he'll be silently tolerated.

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mpeachy Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 8:41am

Assange absolutely hates Hillary Clinton, and the leaks, far from being a general release of documents to the public, was actually targeted to destroy her (and arguably worked). He's definitely not pro-democrat.

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BarbB Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 1:49pm

Hello. Assange leaked the Hillary email: "'al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria". You support Al Qaeda?

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mpeachy Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 2:01pm

I'm not even saying I support Hillary Clinton, let alone al-Qaeda, just pointing out that Assange is not a Democrat.

For the record it was an email to (not from) Hillary Clinton, in the context of Syria's president of the time being considered by the USA to be a nasty bloke who is alleged to have subsequently barrel-bombed his own citizens.

Then al-Qaeda took over and we all know what happened from there.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:43am

Good one him.
How can it be a crime to expose crimes??
Free him!

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Nick Gee Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:53am

reads headline... checks date... not April 1.... righto.

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southernraw Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:38pm

Haha. Exactly the same here mate.
Onya Slats.

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radiationrules Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:06am

IMO Julian Assange is a whistleblower, not a journalist. War is a dirty business on every level; to imagine it otherwise is to imagine a non-existent collective past. I'm keen to see this documentary too; 'coz it's freedom of expression; an ideal that is considered a "given" when it should be considered a "gift" of our democracy. If Julian was born in China or Russia IMO he would be a dead body by now.

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conrico Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:36am

Might not always agree with his opinions but respect kelly for showing a bit of guts. Doesn’t mind backing what he believes in

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:49am

@radiationrules

Well… opinions aren’t truth. That’s the other thing ;)
And you are allowed your ‘freedom of expression’ here, and it’s as valid as anyone’s…
(conrico - I don’t agree with a lot of kelly’s opinions either, but with this it is a worthy cause and a gutsy play)

I also do agree that war is a dirty business. It is also something that contradicts freedom and democracy in principle - especially if ‘classified’ information is engineered to obscure the truth and used to manipulate and deceive the actions and behaviours of the perpetrators of violence and death. Seeing as the ‘invaders’ and perpetrators are the very ones persecuting and punishing the truth teller, it is (in order to uphold democratic values and ideals of freedom of speech and liberty) of the utmost importance to highlight and expose the hypocrisy, corruption and injustice (in this particular instance) of the US, UK and Australian governments.

In saying that, I don’t endorse Assange in any way - I don’t regard him as a hero, whistleblower, journalist or traitor or whatever name we try label him with. He’s an Australian citizen who should be free - especially as long as john howard, tony abbott, george bush and tony blair (as well as rumsfeld, cheney, powell etc) remain free. The real war criminals and liars and traitors are the leaders who deceived their nations and populations into participating in an illegal war under a false premise and they are responsible for millions of deaths and have never been held to account.

If julian was born in china or russia, it’s true, he’d be dead. But he wasn’t ;) So that’s just stupid and an effort in imagining a non existent past right there…

As andy-mac stated accurately above… ‘how can it be a crime to expose crimes’ …Boom.

Truth, not opinion ;)

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AlfredWallace Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:03pm

Jelly Flater .Hi. You nailed it with your exact list of the REAL criminals.AW

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radiationrules Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 5:08pm

JF > you've just reinforced my opinions and called it your "truth"..to quote Socrates "There's no such thing as truth; other than this statement", which you no doubt realize is a looping statement, aimed at taking the piss out of the so-called truth of language. > RR

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 6:50pm

Um. No, but nice effort at trying to explain it away ;)
Your opinions are not ‘my’ truth nor ‘your’ truth and I haven’t reinforced anything. They’re just opinions full stop.

The truth of the matter at hand, without language, is where we differ… and that is through facts, not opinion.
- the socrates quote is just you attempting to be clever.
Try making up your own quotes if you wish to pretend to validate your interpretation / position ;)

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radiationrules Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 7:34pm

JF > you've certainly proven something, you're not very clever. grab another bowl of fruit loops before you respond, or maybe just don't respond, with puerile personal insults. > RR

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 7:56pm

Haha…
So u have a pathetic attempt at a ‘puerile personal insult’…

- and then say not do do that.
Sure… what eva u reckon.
Your first post was full of contradictions, and off u go again ;)

And you wanna judge cleverness…
- move along ;)

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wax-on-danielson Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 2:28pm

Blam! Cop that RR you stupid brain. JF just burnt you like a piece of stick!

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Standupgoleft Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:45am

I think its time to move on. Julian should be freed! Ya just have to look at the recent ex president and his wanton use of classified documents. In reality we all know that America and the rest of the super powers play dirty subvrsive politics . Lives are cheap even there own citizens. Rome created peace by the very violence it bestowed on the conquered! Want to see a parallel read Tom Holland War and Peace in Romes Golden age PAX Take note of how they treated informers! Nothings changes just the players names!

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:59am

Love Kellys surfing but this is of no surprise Kelly has always had a nutty/cooker type side over believing in miracle foods and weird diets, conspiracy theory views, anti vax, and now joining the Assange nutters, tick tick tick.

Just send Assange to the USA to face up to his crimes and get it done with, the weasel has weaseled long enough.

And sorry being involved in hacked secret government files and publishing them is a crime, a very very serious one and espionage, its in no way journalism especially when it endangers peoples life's.

#playsillygamesgetsillyprizes.

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Surfalot67 Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:35pm

I guess you're one of those types that still thinks BRS is a hero too, right?

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:23pm

Indo do you know what information was in the secret government files he hacked and published?? Admittedly I don't know too much about this case, and what he exposed, but if this was my area of expertise, or had any interest in the case, I'd certainly try and find out before accusing him of espionage or being a criminal.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 4:08pm

What crime?
He is an Australian citizen who was given information by an American citizen ( Chelsea Manning)* that he/she shared of war crimes. Assange then shared this information, whether you call him whistle blower or journalist is up to you.
Are you ok with war crimes only as long as they are committed by the goodies?

* who is now free.

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 5:16pm

Im not going to bother replying to individual comments but anyone either hacking into government secret files or just publishing them of any country is clearly asking for trouble, and when your doing it to your own country or a country you country is aligned with you would have to have a death wish, what the files are is actually a separate matter in itself.

To me the most annoying aspect of this whole case is just how the whole system works or doesn't work and how somebody wanted for such serious crimes can evade deportation by countries that are aligned, he should have been sent to the USA straight away to be trialed, and if there was any legal reason or case on why not it should have been sorted out quickly, obviously the system doesn't work like that, but for such an unique case it should have been sorted out quickly.

And this whole hiding in embassies FFS, just man up and face the music.

Anyway each to their own, I still think the whole issue is a cooker scene though, so again no surprise Kelly is into it.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 5:33pm

So you're ok with war crimes.
Rightio....
Nuff said.

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 6:43pm

Whats in the files is currently irrelevant, it's up to the courts in the USA to decide if the contents are relevant and how relevant, especially considering there was a lot of files.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:56am

Great post standupgoleft.

And, of course, id …farkkk

Send him to the criminals to face up to his ‘crimes’ ?
Haha. Cooker on high alert again ;);)

- full marks for another display of your intellect…

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southernraw Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:41pm

haha. Thanks JF. That comment and accompanying vid made my day.

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LeonardDerek Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:16pm

You living in a cocoon if think Julian is the bad guy. We all need to know the truth about what is really going on and not be blindsided by politicians and the worlds so called elite.
Good on you Kelly .

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crg Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:20pm

Indo - who endangered lives in your opinion?

“… we know that between 280,771-315,190 Iraqi civilians have died from direct war related violence caused by the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through March 2023. ”

An invasion based on the invalid notion of WMD’s.

Who lied and committed treason?

Where do YOU draw the line Indo in assessing your judgment of a Government and an individual and their actions?

Genuinely interested to know.

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frog Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:55pm

One US spook being worth around 5000 Iraqi civilians is probably about the weighting in spooksville.

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stunet Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:59pm

What about the Iraqi and Afghani collaborators who were named by Wikileaks?

They may have shared intel by their own free will, or maybe they were 'persuaded'.

What are their lives worth?

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frog Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:34pm

They matter. Assange's flaw with the Wikileaks model was to dump virtually everything he had. Maybe 10% of it would have been enough to expose abuses.. However, once editing data becomes the model that can either twist the message or become overly cautious, vanilla and become opinion rather than data. That was probably his logic. Also the volumes of data were massive. Easier to just release it all than spend a year reviewing and checking it.

With hindsight, I bet he would take the partial dump route.

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etarip Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 9:12pm

What I found interesting at the time (and reflected in jugs comments above) was the way that the release was judged against ‘danger to *our* troops’, with fuck all regard for those that the leaks exposed - and their families.

Bluntly - if you were an Australian or US soldier in Iraq in 2010, there would have been little to no change in what you saw and there would have been almost no change in the force protection threat to you. That doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a human impact.

One of the more disturbing takes on this was that the networks of informants that were exposed somehow ‘had it coming’, as well as their families. This from people who were supposedly driven by humanist motives.

This is not to excuse misconduct in war. It’s not to excuse undertaking illegal or unjust wars. But it’s worth considering whether the way that the ‘expose’ was conducted was in itself an act of ego-driven negligence.

There was a mention of BRS somewhere above. I’m not sure if many soldiers were entirely comfortable with the deification of that bloke - by the senior brass of the ADF, the political class of both sides, and by business elites. It was deeply unsettling to me. And funnily enough, now it turns out that all wasn’t right there either.

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Craig Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:23pm

Very gusty, but good on Kelly.

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Bud1 Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:38pm

Deluxe effort Slater.

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SquattyCutback Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 12:51pm

I respect a lot of the stuff you post here @indo-dreaming but I think you're going to be on the wrong side of history with this one. I appreciate we're hearing a growing anti-narrative voice but that is for a reason. People are not being brain washed into it by some Russian conspiracy either. They are simply starting to see how the world really works despite the mountains of propaganda being broadcast to try and keep it covered up. People are learning to trust each other more as they learn the institutions they once trusted are long since corrupt.

All the MSM news comes from one source. There are many videos out there that simply illustrate how all the different news anchors are saying exactly (literally word for word) the same news on all the different new channels. Conversely, all the dissenting voices are from millions of individuals often in the thick of suffering and experiencing first hand what the MSM says doesn't exist.

Which is more likely to be easily manipulated? The one source broadcasting a story from afar or the millions of individuals experiencing it first hand?

Rallying around the flag, shouting conspiracy theorist does not work any more. Nor does it make the person saying it a patriot. Critical thinking right now is far more important. The US constitution was written to protect the people from the government because they knew, when they fought for independence, who they were up against....that recognition has perhaps been forgotten by the majority over the last 200 or so years.

I applaud Kelly for getting involved on this topic.

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stunet Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:21pm

Do you have to strongly support or oppose, Assange?

Is it possible to hold two, admittedly conflicting, views on him?

If so, that's where I am.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:36pm

It’s very possible.
I question the integrity of him as an individual…

I question his ultimate motives as well.
It’s hard to form any judgement without knowing the guy.
The picture painted of him, I imagine, is inaccurate and skewed to serve a purpose…

On the other hand, he’s responsible for bringing to light certain atrocities and allowing people to see through the devious mechanisms of the US and their allies, that otherwise would have stayed in the shadows. The ‘truth’ uncovered, as such, is vital and important- especially in regard to the killing of civilians / the cover up of war crimes with the intentional and officially endorsed mechanisms that were employed to fool the people and dishonestly shape public opinion.

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stunet Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:36pm

Yep, all that, plus, call me naive, but I think some state secrets should be just that.

So, based on what he uncovered he's a hero, but on the precedent he set he's radically dangerous.

Imprisoned or not, he should be here in Australia. That much I'm sure of.

Also, two more things I'm sure of: He's not a journalist and the film isn't a documentary.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:55pm

Some good points right there, especially the last bit.

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radiationrules Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 5:20pm

Stu > that's my perspectives covered off; no shrill admonishment of other's opinions required. Thanks. > RR

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Le_Reynard Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 3:00pm

Nuance of opinion is not for internet comment threads. You either love Assange or hate democracy...
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bbbird Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 8:59pm

many say yeah, nah

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:22pm

Haha…

id : “the weasel has weaseled long enough”…
& “being involved in hacked secret government files and publishing them is a crime, a very very serious one and espionage, its in no way journalism especially when it endangers peoples life's.“

Well. First up… the weasel stuff - you surely got a good gauge on weaseling ;) Your posts are consistently uninformed, cowardly and steeped in bias and ignorance…

Are you also aware that the government of the time (your mate scummo) implemented and passed laws a couple of years ago enhancing their ability to hack and interfere with Australian citizen’s private online data - even giving them the powers to ‘take over’ and effectively alter, modify and control such things as social media accounts as well as personal information ?

https://www.hrlc.org.au/news/2021/8/25/insufficient-safeguards-in-new-su...

So… they can effectively hack and also engage in espionage against the population in order to further their ‘investigations’ as they see fit. Are these the actions of weasels ?
So you support ‘weaseling’ but condemn it too ? Are you fucking all there ? ;);)

You‘ve got about the same level of discernment as a gumboot.

- you also want to try challenge journalistic integrity, “especially when it endangers people’s life’s” ? Haha! … you can’t even spell ;)

Do you think the ‘shock and awe’ tactics and the unfounded media lies that helped facilitate and accelerate the invasion of Iraq were, in any capacity, a crime (a very very serious crime) ?

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id… gumboot mission accomplished
- maybe time to change your name to ralph

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:32pm

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jedi old mate Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 1:48pm

Going to be interesting to see what Kelly does post tour. It’s pretty clear he can’t fathom not being in the limelight.
He is always sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong but good on him for ‘standing’ up in what he believes in I guess.
Going to be hard for Slater to back up his last ‘legendary’ narration effort which was in the movie ‘Surfs Up’.

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frog Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:43pm

I suspect his need to be in the spotlight will put his legacy at risk through over exposure and being tainted with certain issues and opinions he put out there. Say less, be seen less and maintain some mystery as per Miki Dora and Tom Curren could have worked so well for him and us.

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Michael Adam Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:18pm

There is some hope seeing the shift from left v right slowly becoming establishment v anti-establishment.

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billie Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 2:52pm

Bloody hell. Juicy subject matter and some juicy opinions. No comment from me.

However, Kym Staton and I were good mates for a very brief period of time around 1996. We're mates on Facebook and it has been great to watch his updates as he has produced this documentary. Great to see someone following their heart to raise awareness on something they believe in.

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Le_Reynard Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 3:02pm

Pamela Anderson the link between all this?

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andy-mac Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 4:15pm

Satirical news sites are now the most accurate.
Strange days indeed

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delay_pdl Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 10:40pm

Nailed it tubeshooter

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Standupgoleft Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 6:44pm

Some serious fruit loops in this discussion

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bbbird Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:32pm

It is beneficial to have robust discussion with facts or we may become sheep, asleep.

eg. Atomic & Nuclear bomb testing in Australia by England
https://www.arpansa.gov.au/understanding-radiation/sources-radiation/mor...

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juegasiempre Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:28pm

I was overseas with the Army for 18 months, I think the first trip I was overseas when the Manning drop happened and it didn't endanger anyone except the governments involved. I could be wrong but didn't it just show footage of A10's and Apache's laying waste to civilians? I think the onus is on people here to detail HOW it endangered Australian/American troops.

If your true concern is protecting free speech and democracy, I can't see how you wouldn't support Assange. He provided unfiltered material for the people to make up their own mind about the war efforts. As for a healthy democracy, it only benefits the people to be better informed. There was no 'lefty' agenda, just video where you could make your own mind up.

I think some people are confused about the free speech aspect as well because under US law, it's constitutionally protected. In Australia, no such provision exists. Ironically the posters on here screaming free speech are the biggest advocates of government secrecy! I think Snowden has good rants on the subject if you're interested.

Also don't get wrapped up in the distinction between a 'War Criminal' and a 'War Hero'. It's just a matter of propaganda. It's hard to heroic when your the invading force and further more the whole war effort was incredibly confused. I'll sign off with Smedley Butler.

“WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.”

As for what I think will happen, I think he'll get extradited to the US. They don't have a big history of letting themselves get embarrassed without retribution and I'm a big believer in the Overton Window theory. The powers would rather the people squabble over an issue like this instead of zooming out a bit and asking, 'What the fuck were we doing in Afghanistan and Iraq for all those years and what did we, the people, get out of it?'.

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southernraw Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 11:16pm

Yep. Great post mate.

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andy-mac Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 6:20am

Nailed it!

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simba Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 6:31am

x 100 well said

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Astroboomboy Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 9:11am

Right on.

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etarip Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 9:36pm

See my comment above ref endangering ‘anyone’. The direct impact on our troops was limited. Doesn’t mean that there were no human impacts.

The Killcam of US Apaches shooting people was talked about non-stop, but some of the same people that condemned that action ignored the less animated effects and impacts.

Were you in Iraq or Afghanistan? Just out of interest.

The pointlessness of those wars was kinda apparent by the time those clips dropped. The lack of strategy in Afghanistan was clear, the lack of a commensurate investment to match the ‘security’ commitment.

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Jelly Flater Tuesday, 22 Aug 2023 at 10:47pm

Well said juegasiempre. Concise, measured, accurate…
- thank u for that.

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bogtrotter676767 Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 3:59am

A little surprised, but huge respect for KS for standing up and doing this. Corrupt war mongering "west" need and should be exposed. US and the spineless puppets it drags along with it are the biggest war mongers/criminals since WW2, and all in the name of $$. There are far greater "traitors" to society, which he is definitely not, than Assange and they are the ones usually in a position of trust. Extremely disappointed to see Indo Dreaming throwing out the trashy 'cooker' label, proving beyond any measure of doubt he's a stooge and a brainwashed flog of the highest order, going against ANY utopia his moniker might imply. We need people like Assange, would love to see what he could reveal about the covid scam, the voice scam and so much more. MSM sheep are asleep at the wheel, they need to wake up. The problem for any critically thinking person is the sheep will NEVER wake up, and why it's so easy for the WEF , big pharma et al to bribe and scam their agendas into existence. Brilliant stuff by the GOAT, how many pro surfers or pro sports would have the balls to put their name to this type of thing? Not many. I don't care what he does in surfing from now on, he's already made his mark there..this is truly inspiring. Respect x 1000.

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peabo Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 7:13pm

Most of the 'dO yOuR oWn rEsaRcH' tribe are as big a sheep as anyone else. Just following a different shepherd. Whatever makes them feel special.

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surf.rat Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 5:54am

So if Kelly Slater is such a nice guy, why did he sell out to the Arab Emirates? [see the story here @swellnet]
Kelly is the bastion of the free world now? yet he is also ok with taking money [for his wavepool] from a group of people who make the USA Gov look halfway decent.
I'm not sure how he reconciles these two conflicting interests.
Kelly, why couldn't you just be content with being the greatest surfer of all time? I guess your restless mind never stops thinking.

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dinnerdish Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 7:37am

Go Kelly...to me it's a great thing to support

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hangingtomatoes Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 8:04am

I’m not seeing how this is brave at all.
He’s just narrating a film?
Oh he’s aligning himself to a controversial issue? What’s he got to lose exactly? Not like he’s living hand to mouth and questioning the hand that feeds…

More Kelly Slater loving the sound of his own voice.

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Standupgoleft Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 8:11am

juegasiempre thank you

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bbbird Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 7:04pm

"Many of the assessments today are similar to the one offered nine years ago by Bob Gates, who served as (US) defense secretary when the WikiLeaks disclosures took place."

"The fact is, governments deal with the United States because it's in their interest. Not because they like us, not because they trust us and not because they believe we can keep secrets," Gates said. "Is this embarrassing? Yes. Is it awkward? Yes. Consequences for U.S. foreign policy? I think fairly modest."

Thanks for the above reference 4try
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/12/712659290/how-much-did-wikileaks-damage-u...

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mpeachy Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 8:48am

I doubt it will be balanced, but will watch it anyway.

Assange was used by Russia to destroy Hillary Clinton and support Trump, which is not really ideal, but also shed some light on some pretty heinous stuff.

A real mixed bag.

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Stephen Allen Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 11:30am

Your joking, right? If not could you provide the evidence that Russia destroyed Clinton via Assange?

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mpeachy Wednesday, 30 Aug 2023 at 8:46am

I don't think Assange has even hidden the fact that he hates her. The release of her emails on election eve, which were obtained from Russia, was clearly targeted.

But he hates her because he thinks she's corrupt, and he honestly believes he did the right thing. Whether or not that is true, I have no idea.

It's also very much possible that she would have lost the election anyway, she has never been particularly popular and people underestimated how much Trump was actually resonating with voters.

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Stephen Allen Wednesday, 30 Aug 2023 at 10:58am

The emails were not "obtained from Russia." Assange stated that he had received the emails from an employee of the Democrat National Committee, who later was killed.

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Gowsa Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 10:21am

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Terminal Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 12:27pm

Have to confess, I came straight to comments. Wasn't disappointed.

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Thomo6 Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 1:57pm

Jimmy Slade's most important fight since the octopus.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 4:49pm

Researching this leads to a middle America X men uprising.
Kinda like US Sporty Rebel Teals...
Mr X man ran this up the Stars'n'Stripes Banner & plenty wanna free Assange. (Why!)
Coz Musk & all fellow Online Android Geeks Julian / Gates / Zucker are all on the spectrum...
Like breaking out a brother! ONE OF US!
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/elon-musks-new-twitter-poll-on-edward-sn...

Less War Machine industries to further obliterate Ukraine > More than $700 on obliterated Hawaiians

Kelly : (Code) "Seems like we got a few things backward to me"
https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-surfing-news-the-surfin...

X Man leader Musk (Mission) > Bust open Pentagon Defence contracts
Robert Kennedy Junior will pardon Assange to pierce Joe's Full Metal Jacket
https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/ill-pardon-julian-assang...
Win international favour from all humane do-gooders to undermine uncaring cold war old fart Joe!
Plenty of Anti War > Rebel Sports / News / Celbs Alliance ready to dump GI Joe
Kinda like : When the goin' gets tough Commander in Chief moves even slower...can't find Hawaii.

Hurley / Red Bull / Seadoo Kai Lenny are running this gig!
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/maui-wildfire-recovery-aided-...
Blue Star Alliance said they wanna get more personal with Athletes...
No way would they let Kai run down the Govt unless their Alliance were backin' a change.

Musk backing RFK to hook Kelly to bait Assange to crack open the US Defence Force Shield
https://tracksmag.com.au/did-kelly-slater-just-endorse-robert-f-kennedy-jr
RFK promised to free Assange & Kelly would love to help with such.

Kelly had a Bitty row with - Musk / RFK / Kelly are all united on No Vax / No Wars / Assange / Fires.
One can see how this middle USA Line-up can move mountains from top down quite efficiently.
All are X men wild cards riding their luck...that's mighty alluring to drooling Gromz!
Bailing from Hodad's Hunk of junk in droves to hitch a ride on that Loose knit Rocket Ship!

Check this months news...outta nowhere...the rise of the RFK US Teals...
People be sick of Joe's $Gazillion War Chest + $Gazillion Dem (vs) Rep 1,000 yr Court battle

Just say any shit..' can trip over yer own 2 left feet ...still be a shoe in as Prez.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-07-17/robert-f-kennedy-jr-vac...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/20/robert-f-kennedy-jr-demo...
https://www.statnews.com/2023/08/22/rfk-jr-republicans-health-debate-2024/

Sure looks like the terrible two are in trouble as this wild card will split the pack.

Oz Bush fire with our leader strummin' & sippin' coladas ...opened up a fuckin' massive chasm!
Oz (Redbull) Pro Surfers help Flood Victims + Teals wanna free Assange
Oz version saw Energy Magnate run feely touchy VIP Teal Mag covers to clear out the dead wood.

US Hawaii Bush Fires see Leader chillin' in his sarcophagus...opening up a fuckin' massive chasm!
US (Redbull) Pro Surfers help Fire Victims + Middle wave wanna free Assange
US version sees Spaced out Magnate run edgy VIP Sports Mag covers to clear out the dead wood.

Kelly would pass as a radical Teal...but is that such a bad thing in the desperate state of USA!
Seems to co/align with Oz Rebel Kelly...reminding Kelly is equally an Oz resident of many decades.
Kelly would have more street smarts on Assange than most Yanks...won't hurt Assange's case any!

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bonza Wednesday, 23 Aug 2023 at 10:45pm

“WikiLeaks! I love WikiLeaks”

Grifters gunna grift

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yvdreh Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 4:49am

Do you guys put this much effort into other aspects of your life? Sheeeeesh!

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Bustard Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 6:07am

Hey...Look over there....Webber has funding for a new wavepool

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rothmanisatool Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 8:57am

gowsa sometimes in an age of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. the claims of traitor and lives in danger have all been disproved by numerous sources. a few people have always stood up to tyranny, they inspire us to be braver, for most of us are cowards as we saw in the last 3 years. im interested in your views on Ben Roberts Smith. is he a traitor or hero?

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samerubi Thursday, 24 Aug 2023 at 11:16am

i work in research and development. over the years i have found that people interpret facts/data differently to create their own truth. this applies to everyone regardless of education, "intelligence", background, gender, etc.
my interest in assange is low because whatever the outcome it will have little to no effect on government behaviour or me personally. selfish i know, but i have more pressing day-to-day concerns.
if kelly wants to support assange then all power to him. i wont be watching the film.

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Clive Rodell Wednesday, 30 Aug 2023 at 3:52pm

Let's not let emotion get in the way of Research 'Truths'! Lol

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truebluebasher Friday, 25 Aug 2023 at 9:20am

Supergoat : "Truth! Justice! The American Way!"

No shortage of super powered players in RFK Rogues Gallery.
Dream Team of spurned elite halfcast / outcast misfits.

Not saying they all got tickets to ride but 'this here' is a perfect VIP launch vehicle!
(Read Title!) Just stick to the script...reads itself it does!

When the goin' gets tough the Good ol' hometown boys step up to the Plate!
Servin' up a heapin' helpin of Southern Hospitality : "Another Slice of Mom's Apple Pie!"

Kinda like throwin' it back in yer face with line in the sand vitriol!
Big Kahuna Voodoo after the Fire!

Kai : "I haven't seen One State, One County, One Federal Official at any one of the Donation Hubs!"
Kelly : "Seems we gotta few things Backward to me!"

100% Team USA values...we're standing true...how 'bout you!
We welcome you home!

PS:
Kelly's narration is not directed to the masses...that may or not lap it up!
OZ PM gifted US Prez...of all things, a Hodad Surfboard! Why!

All Mega Rich Influential Presidential backers are now mandated to Surf & all do!
Sure! Ok..so they hover interplanetary craft over Private Lake Resorts...same buzz kill!
Pro surfer's cutting message is melting the hearts of the Icy cold Silver Surfer Crew.
I Surf, therefore : Truth! Justice!...The Big Kahuna Way!

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omong-kosong Saturday, 26 Aug 2023 at 8:43am

Imagine posting that you are pro war in a public forum...
Shame

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Blingas Saturday, 26 Aug 2023 at 8:00pm

Can I just say how refreshing it is to have these comment forums. Swellnet rules!

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SquattyCutback Sunday, 27 Aug 2023 at 12:23pm

@juegasiempre and @tubeshooter nailed it.

@surf.rat Really? Please keep it in perspective mate. Nobody is saying Kelly is the bastion of the free world now.

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mike oxhard Sunday, 27 Aug 2023 at 12:44pm

hopefully he has a better scriptwriter this time

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truebluebasher Sunday, 27 Aug 2023 at 6:02pm

Near enough...mike oxhard wins a Kiss of Life from Pamela...

Bros & Hoes Baywatch Threesome...spot on mike...luv the subtle hint!

Both Kelly & Julian were given the kiss of life by Baywatch Lifeguard Pamela Anderson.
https://www.distractify.com/p/pamela-anderson-kelly-slater-relationship-...
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/pamela-anderson-marriage-juli...

Kelly will add spice to Pamela's Kiss'n'Tell rendezvous with soulful cellmate Julian.
Don't think tbb was meant to leak that much...whole crew are feeling all gooey now...need a Mop!

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Clive Rodell Wednesday, 30 Aug 2023 at 3:46pm

Lots of differing opinions here. Which is good, when many/all arguments are presented.
Good to see some people using their real names and not hiding behind Troll Pseudonyms, but maybe they're scared of persecution?
At least Julian Assange put his name behind his idiology. Unfortunately his personal conviction led to conviction....

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groovie Thursday, 31 Aug 2023 at 1:56am

Assange is a political prisoner! Due to alliances he will remain that way unless the public outcry over his unjust incarceration is so loud it can't be ignored by our political leaders!

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Mario Speedwagon Wednesday, 6 Sep 2023 at 11:24am
Pupkin wrote:

From Day 2 of the Assange trial as reported by Craig Murray:

For the defence, Mark Summers QC stated that the USA charges were entirely dependent on three factual accusations of Assange behaviour:

1) Assange helped Manning to decode a hash key to access classified material.
Summers stated this was a provably false allegation from the evidence of the Manning court-martial.

2) Assange solicited the material from Manning.
Summers stated this was provably wrong from information available to the public.

3) Assange knowingly put lives at risk.
Summers stated this was provably wrong both from publicly available information and from specific involvement of the US government.

In summary, Summers stated the US government knew that the allegations being made were false as to fact, and they were demonstrably made in bad faith. This was therefore an abuse of process which should lead to dismissal of the extradition request. He described the above three counts as “rubbish, rubbish and rubbish”.

Summers then walked through the facts of the case. He said the charges from the USA divide the materials leaked by Manning to Wikileaks into three categories:

a) Diplomatic Cables
b) Guantanamo detainee assessment briefs
c) Iraq War rules of engagement
d) Afghan and Iraqi war logs

Summers then methodically went through a), b), c) and d) relating each in turn to alleged behaviours 1), 2) and 3), making twelve counts of explanation and exposition in all. This comprehensive account took some four hours and I shall not attempt to capture it here. I will rather give highlights, but will relate occasionally to the alleged behaviour number and/or the alleged materials letter. I hope you follow that – it took me some time to do so!

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Mario Speedwagon Wednesday, 6 Sep 2023 at 11:26am
Pupkin wrote:

The bulk of Summers’ argument went to refuting behaviour 3), putting lives at risk. This was only claimed in relation to materials a) and d). Summers described at great length the efforts of Wikileaks with media partners over more than a year to set up a massive redaction campaign on the cables. He explained that the unredacted cables only became available after Luke Harding and David Leigh of the Guardian published the password to the cache as the heading to Chapter XI of their book Wikileaks, published in February 2011.

Nobody had put 2 and 2 together on this password until the German publication Der Freitag had done so and announced it had the unredacted cables in August 2011. Summers then gave the most powerful arguments of the day.

The US government had been actively participating in the redaction exercise on the cables. They therefore knew the allegations of reckless publication to be untrue.

Once Der Freitag announced they had the unredacted materials, Julian Assange and Sara Harrison instantly telephoned the White House, State Department and US Embassy to warn them named sources may be put at risk. Summers read from the transcripts of telephone conversations as Assange and Harrison attempted to convince US officials of the urgency of enabling source protection procedures – and expressed their bafflement as officials stonewalled them. This evidence utterly undermined the US government’s case and proved bad faith in omitting extremely relevant fact. It was a very striking moment.

With relation to the same behaviour 3) on materials d), Summers showed that the Manning court martial had accepted these materials contained no endangered source names, but showed that Wikileaks had activated a redaction exercise anyway as a “belt and braces” approach.

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Mario Speedwagon Wednesday, 6 Sep 2023 at 11:27am
factotum wrote:

From Jonathan Cook:

Here's one reason the Guardian is so quiet on the Assange show trial.

The US is citing at the extradition hearings comments from two of its reporters:
David Leigh, who divulged a vital Wikileaks password; and Luke Harding, who was outed *fabricating* a story to suggest Assange colluded with Russia.

John Goetz of Der Spiegel has denied Assange made the damaging comment attributed to Assange by David Leigh at a meeting they attended.

Luke Harding, meanwhile, has been shielded by the Guardian from any consequences for his entirely made-up story about Assange meeting a Trump aide and unnamed "Russians" while confined to the Ecuadorian embassy: https://theintercept.com/2019/01/02/five-weeks-after-the-guardians-viral...

Luke Harding's role as a conduit for disinformation from US and UK 'national security' officials – the people now determined to put Assange behind bars for life – was exposed in glaring fashion in this interview with Aaron Mate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ikf1uZli4g&feature=emb_title

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Mario Speedwagon Wednesday, 6 Sep 2023 at 11:28am

ps They should've got Pamela Anderson to narrate. Way more credibility. For real!

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 6 Sep 2023 at 2:56pm

Mario Speedwagon should be leading our extraordinary extraterritoriality delegation.
If only in the capacity as Barnaby's translator & handler...nothing special!

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 25 Jun 2024 at 12:06pm

[Breaking News] (Aukus Prisoner Swap) US Goat < > Oz Julian
https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2024/jun/25/julian-assange-prison...

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Craig Tuesday, 25 Jun 2024 at 12:59pm

Huge!

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JB1 Tuesday, 25 Jun 2024 at 4:28pm