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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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velocityjohnno Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 4:33pm
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When Ukrainian citizens were shot in the streets because they wanted to join Europe in 2014 the Europe did nothing to help them out. When Russians took Crimea the Europe did nothing to help the Ukraine out. When war in Donbas kicked off the Europe did nothing to kill it right there and then. They casually gave plenty of time to Russia to build up their military. When Russia invaded in 2022 the Europe would probably do nothing if it wasn’t for Biden who eagerly jumped in with huge amount of support. And to their credit, the UK. We can all thank Biden for his determination to fight the Russians.

Let’s see what happens this time around. Lots of fancy language but Ukraine needs weapons and troops. I still remember the disappointment I felt with the EU in 2014. Who will lead these efforts? The UK is definitely stepping up but they were involved from the beginning anyway and they’re not in the EU. Chances of the US/UK alliance breaking are zero. Macron probably. I reckon Macron can somewhat manage Trump. Germany is all talk but realistically, they’re in a recession and they’re going through an existential crisis. Maybe this new guy can turn it around but I doubt it if he takes the greens in. Spain, Italy? They’re useless and Italy never won a war anyway. Give it to the Polish I reckon.

In hindsight, Angela’s foreign and immigration policies were disaster for Germany and the EU. Can they turn it around? Their track record would say no but let’s hope so.

Insightful there Flollo. I reckon France is the emerging superpower, they never really decolonised (until Russian mercs routed their colonies in Africa in the last 3 years - nobody really reported on that either! I sense they will return...), they have the Foreign legion, carrier power, SSNs, SSBNs, fully independent nuclear deterrent, state backed shipbuilding and a history of acting in their own interests. No bad thing if they step up for Europe, which they will.

Within the UK defence blogosphere, they always doubt their own equipment/ability, but on the day have an uncanny knack of rising to the challenge and overcoming the threat no matter how shit condition the equipment is, or how many ships HM Treasury just scrapped. Eg took out the Italian line of battle with 20 or so obsolete biplanes at Taranto, or their Falklands response. If you look at the prepositioning and training for all those shoulder held anti-tank launcher things (NLAW), the Brit devices allowed the Ukrainians to decimate Russian tanks in those highway ambushes in the early Ukraine invasion. Other important role is diplomatic bridge over the Atlantic which Starmer has really risen to the occasion with.

Poland has armed to the teeth, but also watch for Finland (remained non-aligned and thus heavily armed with Russia on it's border and a memory of the 1940 war and WW2), Sweden is a defence powerhouse, Italy has strong naval construction. Spain has state owned Navantia which is a shipbuilding powerhouse, helped construct our LHDs, our AWDs, is re-booting historic Harland & Wolf's yards in Northern Ireland...
Germany has industrial muscle too, if and when it wakes up.

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basesix Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 4:36pm

the strength of europe has been france and germany making sure they're on the same page before committing to anything potentially disruptive.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 4:51pm

a quick segue away to France's recent travails in Africa:

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velocityjohnno Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 4:52pm

and the ingenious currency that held it all together (2 years old now):

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velocityjohnno Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 5:03pm

in those vids there's the background of a widespread ongoing jihad, stretching from the horn of Africa across to Nigeria (maybe even further south). Hence Christians being beheaded too. This is the other massive-scale disruption in play in Africa at present.

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burleigh Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 5:51pm

Just heard on ABC news while driving that Hamas are calling on the international community to condemn Israel stopping aid trucks.

Hamas is a listed terrorist organisation: https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/what-australia-is-doing/terrorist-or...

and our Australian Government owned ABC is saying this! What a time to be alive

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southernraw Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 6:03pm

3 days later, and i just can't get one burning(pun not intended) question out of my head,'
Why wasn't the bloody fire lit in the oval office behind them?? It's winter!!
No wonder things got heated!!

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basesix Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 6:13pm

haha, apparently trump's vanity and ego give off a fair bit of heat. that ain't fake tan, the guy is cooked. smells like rendered duck fat I've heard.

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southernraw Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 6:18pm

Nothings more welcoming than walking into a room warmed by a fire.
It's a non negotiable when guests visit my place in winter.
I guess welcoming wasn't on the agenda.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 6:41pm

good semiotic pickup on the fireplace

You still down your way on south coast SR?

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basesix Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 6:45pm

fireplace seldom used, but is very occasionally. fun little 2 min news clip, head white house chimney sweep, jeff schmittinger, volunteered with a handpicked team to clean the 35 white house chimneys for 25 years, driven to quit by Trump in his first term.. https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/waukesha-man-about-to-retire-as-whi...

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southernraw Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 7:14pm
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good semiotic pickup on the fireplace

You still down your way on south coast SR?

Yes mate. Still here and a fireplace is a welcome relief in winter.
Love it.

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southernraw Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 7:14pm
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fireplace seldom used, but is very occasionally. fun little 2 min news clip, head white house chimney sweep, jeff schmittinger, volunteered with a handpicked team to clean the 35 white house chimneys for 25 years, driven to quit by Trump in his first term.. https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/waukesha-man-about-to-retire-as-whi...

Classic!

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velocityjohnno Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 7:39pm
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good semiotic pickup on the fireplace

You still down your way on south coast SR?

Yes mate. Still here and a fireplace is a welcome relief in winter.
Love it.

Maybe we'll get the chance to do a walk down your way before we go, we'll see.

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Confusion Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 8:42pm

Because they’re so good at maths , the DOGE teenyboppers stealing of confidential data,
must be good for America .
Wrong their maths is hopeless, with wildly optimistically exaggerations and lies of the “savings” they made,
Now ordered to keep paying USAids and admitting they didn’t actually cut 5 programmes that they said they did.

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southernraw Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 9:26pm
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good semiotic pickup on the fireplace

You still down your way on south coast SR?

Yes mate. Still here and a fireplace is a welcome relief in winter.
Love it.

Maybe we'll get the chance to do a walk down your way before we go, we'll see.

Epic VJ. Didn't know you were nearish to the hood.
I'm pretty time poor at the moment (uni's just kicked off again and i'm already under the pump along with work) but would be great to catch up, if not this trip another.
Passed my details onto swellnet to pass onto you. Get in touch if you're down here and if i'm not flat chat i'll come say gday for sure.
Otherwise another time.
Cheers mate

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velocityjohnno Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 9:44pm
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velocityjohnno wrote:

good semiotic pickup on the fireplace

You still down your way on south coast SR?

Yes mate. Still here and a fireplace is a welcome relief in winter.
Love it.

Maybe we'll get the chance to do a walk down your way before we go, we'll see.

Epic VJ. Didn't know you were nearish to the hood.
I'm pretty time poor at the moment (uni's just kicked off again and i'm already under the pump along with work) but would be great to catch up, if not this trip another.
Passed my details onto swellnet to pass onto you. Get in touch if you're down here and if i'm not flat chat i'll come say gday for sure.
Otherwise another time.
Cheers mate

OK that would be great, if possible. It was a goal last time for my eldest and I to do one particular walk, and he's keen and has time. We both got nailed with covid after festivities down south, recovering now, might still have time to head down that way and fit it in. Would be nice to say hi, a few things in common I reckon! Cheers.

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southernraw Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 10:03pm

Great stuff @vj.

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flollo Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 10:04pm

Of course. I missed this one but it’s kinda obvious.

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etarip Monday, 3 Mar 2025 at 10:25pm

I’m starting to wonder whether Putin isn’t the only ‘Eastern European’ leader who has invested time and effort into personality profiling Donald Trump and developing strategies to manage his ego.

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Confusion Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 8:28am

MAGA meteorologist Kilgore , is pissed as Trump
Cuts the National Weather Service and NOAA, right before multiple chances of
Super Tornado outbreaks throughout the middle of March .
Other Pro Democracy Trump voters ,and others who have lost their jobs and lost a lot of their share and Bitcoin investments are beginning to see the light.

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 9:55am

Wait till he defaults on the US bonds. You've seen nothing yet. That completely unimaginable scenario is plausible with Trump. He will just claim that the US is being 'abused', that the debt is 'fake' and, that he doesn't need to pay it.

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wax24 Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 10:52am
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Hey VJ..... The main weapon of The Coalition of the Willing is fear and surprise...... ahh1... our TWO main weapons are fear and surprise. And ruthless efficiency! Doh! Our THREE main weapons are fear, surprise, a ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... our FOUR......
(someone please cue the spam song....)

Hahah! That was very good!

You could sum up this thread as

"Hello. I'm here for an argument."
"No you're not."

Hahaha VJ!…. Had me laugh myself into a coughing fit!
FWIW…: I have a Homer Simpson esque fascination with fires.
(“Oooooooohh!!)

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wax24 Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 10:52am

(not wildfires….. )

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(not wildfires….. )

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Confusion Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 11:08am

Trump crashes the stock market even more, with announcement of tariff imposition go ahead ,
while Fox News are calling it
“Bidens economy tanking “ with
desperation propaganda.

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 11:35am

That's ok. S&P is back where it was on Jan 14th, just before the inauguration. I reckon it might go down below 5,000-ish which is basically erasing 2024 gains (give or take). I'm noticing investors diversyfing but liquidity is still high.

We need to survive another round of tariffs with the EU, at least 3-4 rounds of very negative economic numbers and even a possibility of bond default.

Then we start buying. Gear up. Although a bond default would crash the global economy and send things spiraling into oblivion.

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Confusion Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 12:05pm

Tell this farmer!

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There’s also wild fires raging in South Carolina,
While Musk guts FEMA , Vance skis in Vermont , and Trump plays golf in Florida.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 12:06pm

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 12:13pm

I don't need to tell him anything. I am explaining some facts and likely scenarios in the share market.

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 3:35pm
flollo wrote:

Wait till he defaults on the US bonds. You've seen nothing yet. That completely unimaginable scenario is plausible with Trump. He will just claim that the US is being 'abused', that the debt is 'fake' and, that he doesn't need to pay it.

"It will be a big default. It will be a beautiful default. You know my friend Millei, from Argentina? Great man. Wonderful man. Well, let me tell you, Argentina knows how to default. We won't worry about the vulture funds, we will do the biggest, most beautiful default the world has ever seen! And we will make America Great Again!"

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sypkan Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 3:50pm

uh oh!

the game just changed...

seems a certain trajectory is set

setting...

sign yaself up jeffy

old aunty's getting a bit hysterical, but she's dead right about us and resources

and 'allies' and the like...
https://x.com/Theblackfemini3/status/1896767918236639259

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 4:03pm

Mate seriously, where are you finding these accounts? I get the sentiment but this is on par with that media touch or worse.

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GuySmiley Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 4:06pm

https://m.

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Optimist Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 4:11pm

Albos Vietnam …..there’ll be nothing peacekeeping about that.
I wonder how many Aussie soldiers are looking forward to being sent to the Russian front……when they didn’t need to.
And now we have an all new fully armed one mind one brotherhood of Europe.
And I wonder who the leader of that new “free world “ will be…..
Coinciding with the appointment of a new pope……
The beast and the false prophet…..read that somewhere.
Interesting times born from the idiocy of war and the lust to control others….
Because they know what’s best for us…….

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flollo Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 4:20pm

What a thing to say heading into the election. When you think that Dutton is finished this other one brings him back to life.

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Confusion Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 4:42pm
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Mate seriously, where are you finding these accounts? I get the sentiment but this is on par with that media touch or worse.

You honestly think that Twitter X is on par with meidas touch ,
I mean what’s wrong with a billionaire ,nazi government theif ,conflict of interest contractor, federal employee terminator.

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Confusion Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 4:46pm
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Albos Vietnam …..there’ll be nothing peacekeeping about that.
I wonder how many Aussie soldiers are looking forward to being sent to the Russian front……when they didn’t need to.
And now we have an all new fully armed one mind one brotherhood of Europe.
And I wonder who the leader of that new “free world “ will be…..
Coinciding with the appointment of a new pope……
The beast and the false prophet…..read that somewhere.
Interesting times born from the idiocy of war and the lust to control others….
Because they know what’s best for us…….

Trumps pal Vladimir Putin ?

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Optimist Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 4:51pm

Idiots like you will start a nuclear WW3.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 5:40pm
sypkan wrote:

uh oh!

the game just changed...

seems a certain trajectory is set

setting...

sign yaself up jeffy

old aunty's getting a bit hysterical, but she's dead right about us and resources

and 'allies' and the like...
https://x.com/Theblackfemini3/status/1896767918236639259

Cannot see any peace keeping force happening.
Putin has said it won't accept that and my understanding is that he is in the drivers seat.
Trump has suspended weapons on route to Ukraine.
I believe we are sending Bushmasters still, which I would have thought are better served you know defending Australia.

Keep eye on ME also, Arab leaders meeting today or tomorrow and apparently Egypt have moved a lot of their military to border.
Some commentators saying Israel with breaking cease fire deal and stopping aid is final red line.
Probably hyperbole, and false, but shit could get real.
Bibi by all reports still wants to bomb Iran...
Fark what a mess.

Also throw this resignation into scenario. He was hoping he could negotiate with USA, but seems Trump admin have left nothing for Iran except continual war threats via Bibi, therefore backed into corner, hardliners calling the shots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/03/iran-vice-president-reform...

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Confusion Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 5:52pm
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Idiots like you will start a nuclear WW3.

Dumb Trump backers like you will,
Oh but now you’ve changed your mind aye ?

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andy-mac wrote:
sypkan wrote:

uh oh!

the game just changed...

seems a certain trajectory is set

setting...

sign yaself up jeffy

old aunty's getting a bit hysterical, but she's dead right about us and resources

and 'allies' and the like...
https://x.com/Theblackfemini3/status/1896767918236639259

Cannot see any peace keeping force happening.
Putin has said it won't accept that and my understanding is that he is in the drivers seat.
Trump has suspended weapons on route to Ukraine.
I believe we are sending Bushmasters still, which I would have thought are better served you know defending Australia.

Keep eye on ME also, Arab leaders meeting today or tomorrow and apparently Egypt have moved a lot of their military to border.
Some commentators saying Israel with breaking cease fire deal and stopping aid is final red line.
Probably hyperbole, and false, but shit could get real.
Bibi by all reports still wants to bomb Iran...
Fark what a mess.

Also throw this resignation into scenario. He was hoping he could negotiate with USA, but seems Trump admin have left nothing for Iran except continual war threats via Bibi, therefore backed into corner, hardliners calling the shots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/03/iran-vice-president-reform...

You cant see a peace keeping force happening because pooman says so!...he lies about everything.You believe him?

What driving seat is he in?...estimates are(at the current rate of advance) he can take all of Ukraine in 150-200 years. he cant even push the Ukes out of Kursk oblast after 7 months of occupation..wheres the evidence that US weapons have stopped going to Ukraine?

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andy-mac Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 6:57pm
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andy-mac wrote:
sypkan wrote:

uh oh!

the game just changed...

seems a certain trajectory is set

setting...

sign yaself up jeffy

old aunty's getting a bit hysterical, but she's dead right about us and resources

and 'allies' and the like...
https://x.com/Theblackfemini3/status/1896767918236639259

Cannot see any peace keeping force happening.
Putin has said it won't accept that and my understanding is that he is in the drivers seat.
Trump has suspended weapons on route to Ukraine.
I believe we are sending Bushmasters still, which I would have thought are better served you know defending Australia.

Keep eye on ME also, Arab leaders meeting today or tomorrow and apparently Egypt have moved a lot of their military to border.
Some commentators saying Israel with breaking cease fire deal and stopping aid is final red line.
Probably hyperbole, and false, but shit could get real.
Bibi by all reports still wants to bomb Iran...
Fark what a mess.

Also throw this resignation into scenario. He was hoping he could negotiate with USA, but seems Trump admin have left nothing for Iran except continual war threats via Bibi, therefore backed into corner, hardliners calling the shots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/03/iran-vice-president-reform...

You cant see a peace keeping force happening because pooman says so!...he lies about everything.You believe him?

What driving seat is he in?...estimates are(at the current rate of advance) he can take all of Ukraine in 150-200 years. he cant even push the Ukes out of Kursk oblast after 7 months of occupation..wheres the evidence that US weapons have stopped going to Ukraine?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/04/europe-live-news-us-m...

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andy-mac wrote:
quadzilla wrote:
andy-mac wrote:
sypkan wrote:

uh oh!

the game just changed...

seems a certain trajectory is set

setting...

sign yaself up jeffy

old aunty's getting a bit hysterical, but she's dead right about us and resources

and 'allies' and the like...
https://x.com/Theblackfemini3/status/1896767918236639259

Cannot see any peace keeping force happening.
Putin has said it won't accept that and my understanding is that he is in the drivers seat.
Trump has suspended weapons on route to Ukraine.
I believe we are sending Bushmasters still, which I would have thought are better served you know defending Australia.

Keep eye on ME also, Arab leaders meeting today or tomorrow and apparently Egypt have moved a lot of their military to border.
Some commentators saying Israel with breaking cease fire deal and stopping aid is final red line.
Probably hyperbole, and false, but shit could get real.
Bibi by all reports still wants to bomb Iran...
Fark what a mess.

Also throw this resignation into scenario. He was hoping he could negotiate with USA, but seems Trump admin have left nothing for Iran except continual war threats via Bibi, therefore backed into corner, hardliners calling the shots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/03/iran-vice-president-reform...

You cant see a peace keeping force happening because pooman says so!...he lies about everything.You believe him?

What driving seat is he in?...estimates are(at the current rate of advance) he can take all of Ukraine in 150-200 years. he cant even push the Ukes out of Kursk oblast after 7 months of occupation..wheres the evidence that US weapons have stopped going to Ukraine?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/04/europe-live-news-us-m...

He paused it, temporary until the Ukes sign on the dotted line which they were ready to do until Vance stuck his nose in and started the shitfight.

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basesix Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 7:30pm

started way before jimmy vance butted in.. (what fucking idiots the people are that think msm is only showing a divisive bit.. apart from the fact it is 'the fight', so of course that's what they show, the half-hour lead up makes volod look exhausted from a war and donald look like an absolutely ridiculous cunt, that does very well for his age).

.. jim vance just noticed Volod making a few faces while the vain cockhead he was 'talking with' told the world biden's a cunt, obama's a cunt, europe's a cunt, anyone thinking trump's not the best is a cunt, and anyone who thinks anything bad could ever happen when trump is around is a cunt, anyone who doesn't suck up the donald arse is a cunt.. and no-one is to blame in this war.. and Volod needs to stop hating on the invader.

I reckon volod did well after his long flights and months of hell, not to fall off his chair laughing and crying at how retarded and off the planet the pompous orange fuckstick is.

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sypkan Tuesday, 4 Mar 2025 at 7:49pm

bottom line is you need a peace deal before you can have a peace keeping force

or that's normally how it goes...

I said yesterday it's probably better europe has a go at negotiating a deal than trump. I actually think both US parties are so fucken compromised re. russia and ukraine neither of em are capable of doing it

but that hinges on europe actually negotiating...

not seeing a lot of that, so far,looks more like dictating of the same old terms

no. 1 on the 'negotiating' table has to be ukraine not joining NATO

can't see putin giving an inch otherwise, and fair enough from my perspective...

so...

'peace deal'

believe it when I see it..